Generaly, ark mechanicus is a TYPE of vessel, wich is not even closely in hundereds of kilometer. It is comparable to an imperial battleship, wich is maximum in tens of kilometers long.Your pictures of "Bucephalus" are pictures taken from Starcraft (pc game), where Bucephalus is a flagship of the heir of the throne, princ Valerian. That type of vessel is completely different to any and all warhammer 40K vessel.
I’d say the only ones you missed for the iom is Furious Abyss which are the size of the phalanx. Necron overlord oltek capital ship was 30km was a bigger Crain class. Do star forts count the tau have continental size ones ect
@@сесьсясь I don't seem to remember those existing. The phalanx is the size of a small moon and they did use Stellar Engines in the past but I've never heard of a planet sized spacestation.
@@pillarmenn1936 "The Imperium is not made solely of planets and star systems. Defensive emplacements and man-made stations of all sorts are scattered about the galaxy, floating freely in space and guarding against alien onslaught. Most often, these bases are in close proximity to Imperial planets, although some protect the more commonly used routes between them. There are ancient and complex bases, artificial moons and doomsday bastions, as well as simple hazard zones made of asteroids chained together and kept in place by occasional thruster bursts. In deep space, the Imperium also maintains battle stations - planet-sized ports that tether ships of the line. At various strategic points can be found larger starforts - the lynchpins of Imperial expansion since the days of the Great Crusade." *-7th Edition Rulebook*
I believe Dark Angels are using their Gloriana-class vessel, Invincible Reason, besides the Rock itself. If memory serves, lore/canon says it is part of DA fleet to this day. And it is 28 km long as it befits the ship of the Angelus Mortis Primus.
It also has a docking bay inside the Rock, along with the rest of the Dark Angel's fleet. The rock is far larger than the previous video gave it credit for, think hundreds of km, not a handful.
Wow. Those top tier ships are awesome. I could imagine in their top tier peak performing composite states they could be even better and more powerful. Too bad they don't have the means to replicate things like those anymore and don't do much active department or institute tech research into them either. I could imagine they would make even the Culture from M Banks and the Forerunners largely impressed and respect such large megastructure engineering feats required to construct such ships and the power behind them. It kind of reminds me how I felt when I built my first Titan class ships and Ring worlds in Stellaris. And perhaps how a player feels when they bulid a Juggernaut.
_"Too bad they don't have the means to replicate things like those anymore and don't do much active department or institute tech research into them either."_ Well, they still can build even larger ships and stations, so it's not a big deal. Even poor sector like Calixis is known to construct artificial planets.
@@thorshammer7883 there are many such instances in the lore. Some even have information that such things are built in the 41'st millenia. This is just one such example: "One of the most infamous info-gaps is that there are no early records to show the existence of the planet now designated Cella. Because of the partial nature of the records, it is impossible to know if Cella was, in fact, present all along. or whether those early adepts, who struggled to bring an entire system into the Mechanicus fold, actually constructed it. Several archaeological expeditions have been suggested, but the High Fabricators have denied every request for time or resources throughout the millennia. If the rocky bones of a natural planet are present, however, there is no way to tell now without such an effort. Layer after layer of storage space, warehouses, stasis- vaults, and data-tombs have accumulated over the entire planet's surface and deep into its mantle and core as well. Most adepts merely assume that it is an artificial construct, taking pride in the Mechanicus Calixis and its ability to craft worlds out of nothingness. Those few outsiders who have visited the system, however, often express serious doubt that a planet nearly the size of Terra itself could have been constructed artificially." *-Dark Heresy: The Lathe Worlds* Basically, these mechanicus wanted to make their star system self sufficient, so they built an artificial planet. And these are poor mechanics form Calixis sector on the outskirts of the galaxy. You can imagine what rich systems can build (spoiler: likely rings around stars as such thing was once mentioned in the _Dark Imperium)_ And this is a less impressive example: "Pergamatros was an artificial moon, orbiting the gas giant Pelucidus. It was maintained in utmost secrecy by the magi of forge world Goralech, whose patronage by a cabal of Ordo Malleus Inquisitors had seen them handle the darkest of proscribed lore. The vaults of Pergamatros were created to contain Goralech's perilous data, hidden behind arrays of auspicatory baffles that concealed the moon from even the most powerful sensor sweeps." *-Arks of Omen: Abaddon*
@@thorshammer7883 Oh, I remembered. This is also pretty straight forward: "Beneath the glimmer of the Iap System's binary stars, the hive moon of Josyria huddled in close orbit to the mighty - and entirely man-made - fortress world of Halcydonis." *-War Zone Charadon - Act I: The Book of Rust*
@@сесьсясь If I may ask how big are Artifical worlds, what is the exact nature of their construction are they founded on, and also how commonplace are they in practice? Because the wiki doesn't say anything.
The Silent King Ship is bigger than Earth and even bigger than a Super-Earth in terms of Size. Imagine the gravity well of this ship that could easily pull planets into orbiting the ship like a moon, ohh I forgot Necron Technology is so Hyper-Advanced that they develop a technology that makes their ships Massless, Enertialess, and Gravityless thus negating any bad side effects like the Aeldari Craftworlds counterpart have when entering a star system due to their size. The Necrons do not have any of them whatsoever like their World Engine Planet Craft staying chill in space without any gravity well that distorts the spacetime like a planet.
And further more I believe the function of the inertialess drive is that of continuous acceleration and in the voids between galaxies I'm sure it was even faster. Some people think that he was limited to light speed but I don't think size matters when you can control gravity and momentum. We have no idea what technological wonders he picked up along the way either. What knowledge he might possess about other hyper advanced beings that have their own histories with godlike entities. I've heard his ship had its own internal space similar to a Dyson sphere that contains a massive black hole which powers the vessel. And these are all capabilities it had before it left. He has the tippy top of Necron technology and he never wnet to sleep, he spent all that time acquiring more knowledge so I'm sure advancements were made and probably beyond anything that has ever touched our galaxy before. If Necrons are a type 3 civilization as a collective then he might be a type 4 by now by himself. I'll bet his baseline warriors are tougher than even a destroyer overlord. Or is it just lord?
Thanks for the video, I watched previous one a few hours ago and was a bit mad with how much you nerfed Warhammer. This video is so much better! Thanks! On another note, holy shit Arc Mechanicum is THAT large?! I just googled and it is true?! Holy moly! I read that it was largest Mechanicum ship but I thought it was along the lines of Maccrag Honor or something, not freaking Battle Moon! No wonder people claim its a 100% intact STC. Anyhow, Silent King's flagship is ginormous as well! Love it! I am liking this video :D
"Roboute had heard of the vessels known as Ark Mechanicus, but had dismissed tales of their continent-sized cityscapes and planetoid bulk as exaggerations, embellished legends or outright lies. Now he knew better. A passing battleship that Roboute recognised as a Dominator-class vessel sailed below the Speranza, and its length was more than eclipsed by the beam of the Ark Mechanicus. " *-Priests of Mars* *This Roboute is not a primarch. He is just his name-fellow. There are many such continent-size starships.
Should note, a typical Ark Mechanicus is around the same size as a typical Imperial battleship (like the Apocalypse class mentioned in the last video). Speranza is a peak into what humanity once had in the true golden age.
@@davisdf3064Yeah, this seems really obvious. Any hypothetical civilization capable of making ships and installations this big would obviously have the technology to prevent natural forces from threatening the structural integrity of them without much issue.
These sizes are way off base my dude... The smaller are accurate. But please share your sources for the larger vessels. Seems as if you just took a shot in the dark
The Speranza is actually that big (it has enough space inside to simulate titan battles), the Silent King's one, I'm not sure (they are the Necrons though)
@@davisdf3064 Titans aren't that large. The Speranza could b 1/10 that size and comfortably simulate Titan battles. Heck, a warhound isn't even 60 feet tall, and a Reaver is less than 90. How big did you think an average Titan was? lol I'd be surprised if the Speranza is anything over 100 - 120 km. Remember they described it as being wider than the length of the other vessels. Most those other vessels are 2 - 8 km's in length only, so that's not all that impressive when you do the math, but as is typical with 40K fans always want to cherry pick the largest, and most impressive feats with no thought given the authors intention. Even if the Speranza were "only" 100 - 120 km that's still an enormous ship, especially when compared with other Imperium and Mechanicus vessels, so no need for hyperbole. Absolutely dwarfs the others including the Gloriana class.
@@importantvideos4529 Even if Titans are in the smaller estimates, the battle domes were said to be large enough for titans to shoot inside it and the shots could arc and fall fo the ground. It doesn't matter how large the titan is, what matters is how large the domes would need to be for that to be possible. That would be at least a few dozen of kilometers.
@@davisdf3064 All easy to accomplish in a 120km long vessel. Go take a look at the proportions of a smaller, but similar vessel. How tall would you estimate a 120km ship would be? Not all that difficult to accomplish within those dimensions. And yes the size of the titans does indeed matter, as the power behind the weapons being used increases as the size of the titan increases. Size, power, range of the weapons = Huge difference. That's my take on what I've read anyhow.
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Generaly, ark mechanicus is a TYPE of vessel, wich is not even closely in hundereds of kilometer. It is comparable to an imperial battleship, wich is maximum in tens of kilometers long.Your pictures of "Bucephalus" are pictures taken from Starcraft (pc game), where Bucephalus is a flagship of the heir of the throne, princ Valerian. That type of vessel is completely different to any and all warhammer 40K vessel.
In the book Ark Mechanicus Speranza is stated as size as a continent. Spanning 10km isn't enough to be called a continent.
Well since Starcraft is a "cancelled" WH40k game, makes sense.
ark mechanicus can be whatever the admech says is a ark mechanicus.
@@kunnu6752 They love to exaggerate. Doesn't mean it's actually the size of a freaking continent... Lol
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 Warcraft, not 40k
3:44 LOL, the chandelier Henry pointed at.
I’d say the only ones you missed for the iom is Furious Abyss which are the size of the phalanx. Necron overlord oltek capital ship was 30km was a bigger Crain class. Do star forts count the tau have continental size ones ect
Imperium has planet-size stations 😎 Tau are disgraced. (Tau hate)
@@сесьсясь I don't seem to remember those existing. The phalanx is the size of a small moon and they did use Stellar Engines in the past but I've never heard of a planet sized spacestation.
@@pillarmenn1936 "The Imperium is not made solely of planets and star systems. Defensive emplacements and man-made stations of all sorts are scattered about the galaxy, floating freely in space and guarding against alien onslaught. Most often, these bases are in close proximity to Imperial planets, although some protect the more commonly used routes between them. There are ancient and complex bases, artificial moons and doomsday bastions, as well as simple hazard zones made of asteroids chained together and kept in place by occasional thruster bursts.
In deep space, the Imperium also maintains battle stations - planet-sized ports that tether ships of the line. At various strategic points can be found larger starforts - the lynchpins of Imperial expansion since the days of the Great Crusade."
*-7th Edition Rulebook*
@@pillarmenn1936 They've got a lot of those in Sol Sector.
@@сесьсясь Oh, interesting
I believe Dark Angels are using their Gloriana-class vessel, Invincible Reason, besides the Rock itself. If memory serves, lore/canon says it is part of DA fleet to this day. And it is 28 km long as it befits the ship of the Angelus Mortis Primus.
It also has a docking bay inside the Rock, along with the rest of the Dark Angel's fleet. The rock is far larger than the previous video gave it credit for, think hundreds of km, not a handful.
This, UA-cam creator trolled all of us into pushing him to make another video, good job, brother
That's what Tzeentch's power can do
I saw what you did with the Blackstone fortress and the reference to Henry Cavils interview.
The heresy regarding the emperor's warship will not go unnoticed. The inquisition has been informed.
2:24 it reminds me of starcraft battlecruiser
That’s because it is a StarCraft battle cruiser, bro used pictures of the wrong ship
@@stug4life374 wrong ship but right name
That's a battlecruiser from SC2, he completely screwed up the images of that ship lmaooooo
@2:25 Battlecruiser from Starcraft?
Yes...
Wow. Those top tier ships are awesome. I could imagine in their top tier peak performing composite states they could be even better and more powerful. Too bad they don't have the means to replicate things like those anymore and don't do much active department or institute tech research into them either.
I could imagine they would make even the Culture from M Banks and the Forerunners largely impressed and respect such large megastructure engineering feats required to construct such ships and the power behind them.
It kind of reminds me how I felt when I built my first Titan class ships and Ring worlds in Stellaris. And perhaps how a player feels when they bulid a Juggernaut.
_"Too bad they don't have the means to replicate things like those anymore and don't do much active department or institute tech research into them either."_
Well, they still can build even larger ships and stations, so it's not a big deal. Even poor sector like Calixis is known to construct artificial planets.
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Are you certain about that? Artificial planets is something I don't hear the Imperium of Man doing.
@@thorshammer7883 there are many such instances in the lore. Some even have information that such things are built in the 41'st millenia. This is just one such example:
"One of the most infamous info-gaps is that there are no early records to show the existence of the planet now designated Cella. Because of the partial nature of the records, it is impossible to know if Cella was, in fact, present all along. or whether those early adepts, who struggled to bring an entire system into the Mechanicus fold, actually constructed it. Several archaeological expeditions have been suggested, but the High Fabricators have denied every request for time or resources throughout the millennia. If the rocky bones of a natural planet are present, however, there is no way to tell now without such an effort. Layer after layer of storage space, warehouses, stasis- vaults, and data-tombs have accumulated over the entire planet's surface and deep into its mantle and core as well. Most adepts merely assume that it is an artificial construct, taking pride in the Mechanicus Calixis and its ability to craft worlds out of nothingness. Those few outsiders who have visited the system, however, often express serious doubt that a planet nearly the size of Terra itself could have been constructed artificially."
*-Dark Heresy: The Lathe Worlds*
Basically, these mechanicus wanted to make their star system self sufficient, so they built an artificial planet. And these are poor mechanics form Calixis sector on the outskirts of the galaxy. You can imagine what rich systems can build (spoiler: likely rings around stars as such thing was once mentioned in the _Dark Imperium)_
And this is a less impressive example:
"Pergamatros was an artificial moon, orbiting the gas giant Pelucidus. It was maintained in utmost secrecy by the magi of forge world Goralech, whose patronage by a cabal of Ordo Malleus Inquisitors had seen them handle the darkest of proscribed lore. The vaults of Pergamatros were created to contain Goralech's perilous data, hidden behind arrays of auspicatory baffles that concealed the moon from even the most powerful sensor sweeps."
*-Arks of Omen: Abaddon*
@@thorshammer7883 Oh, I remembered. This is also pretty straight forward:
"Beneath the glimmer of the Iap System's binary stars, the hive moon of Josyria huddled in close orbit to the mighty - and entirely man-made - fortress world of Halcydonis."
*-War Zone Charadon - Act I: The Book of Rust*
@@сесьсясь
If I may ask how big are Artifical worlds, what is the exact nature of their construction are they founded on, and also how commonplace are they in practice? Because the wiki doesn't say anything.
Flagship of silent King only city sized-not planet
The Silent King Ship is bigger than Earth and even bigger than a Super-Earth in terms of Size. Imagine the gravity well of this ship that could easily pull planets into orbiting the ship like a moon, ohh I forgot Necron Technology is so Hyper-Advanced that they develop a technology that makes their ships Massless, Enertialess, and Gravityless thus negating any bad side effects like the Aeldari Craftworlds counterpart have when entering a star system due to their size. The Necrons do not have any of them whatsoever like their World Engine Planet Craft staying chill in space without any gravity well that distorts the spacetime like a planet.
And further more I believe the function of the inertialess drive is that of continuous acceleration and in the voids between galaxies I'm sure it was even faster. Some people think that he was limited to light speed but I don't think size matters when you can control gravity and momentum. We have no idea what technological wonders he picked up along the way either. What knowledge he might possess about other hyper advanced beings that have their own histories with godlike entities. I've heard his ship had its own internal space similar to a Dyson sphere that contains a massive black hole which powers the vessel. And these are all capabilities it had before it left. He has the tippy top of Necron technology and he never wnet to sleep, he spent all that time acquiring more knowledge so I'm sure advancements were made and probably beyond anything that has ever touched our galaxy before. If Necrons are a type 3 civilization as a collective then he might be a type 4 by now by himself. I'll bet his baseline warriors are tougher than even a destroyer overlord. Or is it just lord?
You forgot the Abyssal class battleship that was made druimg horus heresy
RIP Thule
If they bring BFG back I want to see the Conqueror and Lotara Sarrin at the helm. FIRE THE URSUS CLAWS
At 5-10,000km, the Silent King's flagship would be larger than Mars (radius 3.4k km).
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Thanks for the video, I watched previous one a few hours ago and was a bit mad with how much you nerfed Warhammer. This video is so much better! Thanks! On another note, holy shit Arc Mechanicum is THAT large?! I just googled and it is true?! Holy moly! I read that it was largest Mechanicum ship but I thought it was along the lines of Maccrag Honor or something, not freaking Battle Moon! No wonder people claim its a 100% intact STC. Anyhow, Silent King's flagship is ginormous as well! Love it! I am liking this video :D
"Roboute had heard of the vessels known as Ark Mechanicus, but had dismissed tales of their continent-sized cityscapes and planetoid bulk as exaggerations, embellished legends or outright lies. Now he knew better. A passing battleship that Roboute recognised as a Dominator-class vessel sailed below the Speranza, and its length was more than eclipsed by the beam of the Ark Mechanicus. "
*-Priests of Mars*
*This Roboute is not a primarch. He is just his name-fellow.
There are many such continent-size starships.
Should note, a typical Ark Mechanicus is around the same size as a typical Imperial battleship (like the Apocalypse class mentioned in the last video). Speranza is a peak into what humanity once had in the true golden age.
why have you got images from star craft in here?? thats not 40k at all
My question is, How are thease massive ships not spherical? Gravity would crush anything this massive into a sphere.
Because Warhammer 40k is science-fantasy, it has, admittedly, magic materials and magic technology
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@@davisdf3064Yeah, this seems really obvious. Any hypothetical civilization capable of making ships and installations this big would obviously have the technology to prevent natural forces from threatening the structural integrity of them without much issue.
Because **** reality. That's why.
Hello there. Why are you using Stacraft pics? Greetings.
Checking to see whether the real 40k fans would notice
@@nutbug445 Hahaha oke.
@@nutbug445 Eh??? do you really have to take a risk for that?
Did you mention the trisagion?
Disappointed that the phalanx isn’t here
It's in the other video, the first one 😉
Went to see and my thoughts remain the same way too small for my tastes considering the the lore around it
@@nutbug445 phalanx Is way bigger than you put in that video
For the Algorithm!
Weak vid: I turned it off when I saw a Starcraft Terran ship image for the Emperor's ship the Bucephalus...lazy!
These sizes are way off base my dude... The smaller are accurate. But please share your sources for the larger vessels. Seems as if you just took a shot in the dark
I was about to say the silent kings ship is WAY to big and the imperator somnovem is incredibly too small
The Speranza is actually that big (it has enough space inside to simulate titan battles), the Silent King's one, I'm not sure (they are the Necrons though)
@@davisdf3064 Titans aren't that large. The Speranza could b 1/10 that size and comfortably simulate Titan battles. Heck, a warhound isn't even 60 feet tall, and a Reaver is less than 90. How big did you think an average Titan was? lol I'd be surprised if the Speranza is anything over 100 - 120 km. Remember they described it as being wider than the length of the other vessels. Most those other vessels are 2 - 8 km's in length only, so that's not all that impressive when you do the math, but as is typical with 40K fans always want to cherry pick the largest, and most impressive feats with no thought given the authors intention. Even if the Speranza were "only" 100 - 120 km that's still an enormous ship, especially when compared with other Imperium and Mechanicus vessels, so no need for hyperbole. Absolutely dwarfs the others including the Gloriana class.
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Even if Titans are in the smaller estimates, the battle domes were said to be large enough for titans to shoot inside it and the shots could arc and fall fo the ground.
It doesn't matter how large the titan is, what matters is how large the domes would need to be for that to be possible. That would be at least a few dozen of kilometers.
@@davisdf3064 All easy to accomplish in a 120km long vessel. Go take a look at the proportions of a smaller, but similar vessel. How tall would you estimate a 120km ship would be? Not all that difficult to accomplish within those dimensions. And yes the size of the titans does indeed matter, as the power behind the weapons being used increases as the size of the titan increases. Size, power, range of the weapons = Huge difference. That's my take on what I've read anyhow.
Is this channel run by AI or something? That's a ship from StarCraft 😂
The biggest warship in the imperium is the Phalanx (Imperial Fists) Not the Smurf Mobile
Спасибо, очень интересно!
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А где звездный форт галатан?
Где Мир механизм?
Мир-механізм був у попередньому випуску