Hoovie - your Mustang is a simple fix. Those are the wrong rocker arms. They cannot support a high lift cam (internal slot is too short). A set of roller rocker arms, or at least some designed for high lift will solve your issue. Essentially, with a high lift cam, the rockers traveled all the way to the end of the slot, and at full lift, couldn't travel any further, thus the weakest link broke - and that weak link is the cast rocker arms.
That’s 100% right, it needs a nice set of roller rockers not stock style ones based on the rpm he seems to be running it too. I also would check the pushrods and make sure he didn’t bend any
What did it have in it originally? How were those motors known for their free revving nature? Didn't the O.G. Shelby gt350 have a fairly high redline? What if roller rockers aren't allowed in that class of vintage racing?
SVRA is the most stringent on engine specs and roller rockers are allowed. Agree with one of the other comments, the wrong rockers were used and/or not adjusted properly. I would venture to say the studs may be wrong. Curt Vogt, Cobra Automotive are the guys to talk to and pretty darn helpful.
@@lukewalker1051 💯 I’ve watched many videos from hoovie and thier have been multiple times that I’ve heard the wizard say something that makes no sense. I immediately knew that was the issue the moment I seen the damage and the face I made when the wizard tried to say it was an oiling issue must’ve been priceless🤦🏻🤪
Hey man, none off my, or anyone else’s, business. I noticed the tan lines from the missing jewelry on your left hand. I genuinely hope you are doing ok. There are a lot of people out here that don’t know you personally, but genuinely care about your well-being. Every once in a while we all need to remember that we are loved, even if we don’t show it as often as we should. I apologize for even bringing it up, and hope I’m reading into a non-existent problem. I just lost an old friend, his note is heartbreaking. I wish I would of told him that I loved him so he’d know that he was loved by many people. Seems he only cared about the love from his soon to ex wife now widow. Keep your head up man.
Fun fact: The vertical stripes under Carroll Shelby's names meant something: 1 strike was pre-heart transplant, 2 strikes were after, and 3 were all ones he had signed digitally and were printed. I happen to have a glove box door signed by Carroll Shelby in his later years where he was struggling with not only his health but the pen was having issues so it's a legitimate signature but missing the appropriate vertical stripe and somewhat patchy in places due to the pen being troublesome. I got that signature because my grandfather (who also worked on Old Yeller II) knew Carroll Shelby personally and was invited to his 80th birthday (where the glovebox door was signed).
Yeah Shelby’s are nice, but saying that US cars are top of the world again and Porsches and Ferraris look good in the rear view mirror, is a bit too much. No Shelby will ever be as fast as a 911
I stumbled across that place several years ago on a business trip. It was free then and there was an older guy who was a racing buddy of Carroll's who showed us the cars and gave all of the histories. It looked like more of the cars are new now. When I was there, there were more original vintage cars. There was an original small-block Cobra (little blue thing I still dream about) and if I remember correctly, it was Carroll's. It had beautiful patina original seats and the story was that Carroll said he would kill anyone who upgraded them. The factory portion is closed on weekends (or was then) but the display portion is always open. A fun thing to do in Vegas. And don't miss road kill BBQ.
Congrats Tyler...you've now entered the racecar owners club. You don't get a membership card or trophy but you do get a nice invoice every so often to remind you that your living your dream!!
At around 15mins that tour and chat didn't do justice to the Shelby facility... I would be more than happy to watch a 2 hour episode of an in-depth tour and sit down chat/interview with that chap... just absolutely fascinating!
Typical oil issues for that block. You need to check it regularly which means the wizard will be very happy. Get rid of those rockers if you can and go to roller rockers, if it meets class rules.
Ah yes, typical Boss oiling issues. Solid lifter cam, my old XA Falcon Boss 351 dropped rockers regularly. I remember stopping on the roadside to reseat a rocker, and tighten it down. I had long chrome rocker cover wing nuts so I could do this very quickly.
@@Beer_Dad1975 not around any more. The car wore XA-000 Victorian plates. That engine revved to 9000. I had the HO tachometer in it. The rear end let it run 112mph in 1st gear. Rock crusher gearbox and Detroit locker 9" rear end. The Hurst Drop side shifter made it slick as... I miss it. 😢
@@cliftonmanley3882 What decides what the max rpm for an engine should be. I can't imagine that they take the first one they build and run it to destruction. But how do they get that number?
@@boyracer3477it's usually the point where valve float becomes a major problem, determined to some extent by the valve springs. Cam balance and strength can be another limitation.
Haven't seen a video from you in a little while Hoovie. Seems quite a few other people are hoping you're doing alright too based on the comments. I hope all's okay in your neck of the woods. I always religiously watch your videos, you seem like a really nice genuine fella. If I were living near you in Kansas and bumped into you, I'd buy you a beer - you'd have all sorts of interesting stories to tell. Lots of love from Australia
The Shelby factory looked amazing. That line of black GT500 Hertz Shelbys as well as the real Shelby Lightning Ford pickup were simply beautiful. I see a tight run American business there. Which you have to have to stay in business today. I am glad to see American companies like Shelby so healthy and vibrant. They are an inspiration to other American companies to do things right.
Phil4986 I think Shelby American works because like Carroll, they are concerned with building great cars, not building a car company and a brand. That was DeLorean's problem.
This video reminds me of the museum delivery of my 2011 45th Anniversary Shelby GT350, although Shelby was located at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway facility at the time. Still have that car to this day. This newer facility is much better than the old one and every enthusiast should put a visit to Shelby factory/museum on their bucket list. Vince is the right guy leading the charge. Thanks Hoovie!
The '66 Mustang fastback is one of my all time favorite cars!!! Hang on to it dude!! A piece of Americana and SOO MUCH CHARACTER TOO!!! Good luck Hoovie.
I've been watching your Channel and have been subscribed for more than 2 years. I've never left a message before. However this particular one hits close to home. I lost my fiance unexpectedly because of a pulmonary embolism a few years ago. She left behind a wonderful daughter on a very loving family . she was a Mustang woman throwing it through. She loved Carol Shelby's work she owned a couple of Mustangs through her life . Her pride and joy was a 2013 Mustang GT. She spent a lot of time and love in that car to have exactly what she wanted. Some however not the most important parts of our memories together in that car. I wish I had known of that Carroll Shelby museum long ago. I know she would have been at complete aww of it . Her name was Amber DeMar. I miss her everyday.
Always watch your channel Tyler, done so since I found it about 4 years ago. Hope all is ok with you. Best wishes from across the pond in the proper Birmingham (UK!).
I think part of the story here, that Hoovie is starting to realize now, is that motorsport is EXPENSIVE. It's hard enough keeping modern race machines running, but vintage racing is, and always will be, a really, really fun money pit. That's why you pretty much only see rich people or very smart engineer-types doing it.
This. He thinks he's cursed, but it's just par for the course (pun haha), especially when tracking production cars - although it is a bit strange the Hertz engine would go down being that it's a pure race powerplant. Still not uncommon
Hoovie has gotten rich buying cars that have issues. He spends tons on maintenance but you gotta spend money to make money. I'd love though to know what he recent financial bind was all about.
I met Carrol Shelby when I was a kid. He was such a cool guy. When I was a kid a neighbor gave me a 1:18 replica of a 65 cobra. I've been infatuated with Shelby ever since and the cobra has always been my dream car. I'd love to go to Vegas and tour this place one day.
Fantastic episode Tyler! As a past vintage racer I've been waiting for this car to reappear. I recall from the previous episode this has an Accusump that you did not use to pre-oil before starting. Maybe that's why the troubles now?
How the hell do you stay so humble Dennis, you have so much knowledge yet you do not speak down or lecture people you share what you know rather than tell what you know, there is a huge difference, I take in everything and find myself understanding why certain vehicles are important. And you have proven that not all important have to be worth tens of millions, of course, you are making money but I get the impression that you love the hunt just as much if not more than the return you may get for the sale. Anyway thank you for sharing this part of your life with us and I always come away knowing more than I did about an hour ago. Being over in Scotland I don't get to see the vast majority of what you find so I find the shows extremely interesting. Though I do have a vw bus garage where I live, he does well and I believe does some custom work on them. I would love to see a ground-up restoration or resto-mod on the channel. That bus you drove to lunch was well set up, I've never been in one without slop in the steering and normally they need a week's notice to get to 50mph and that one you drove did just fine. Also, it's been years since I've seen trafficators on anything the last thing I was in with them was an old Wolseley. So thank you for all the hard work from those in front of the camera and everyone behind the scenes that brings these shows which are easily better than anything I can find on TV over here, all the best from Scotland
On race motors you need to lash ur valves regularly or else you pay. Pull that motor and fix it and store it. Buy a crate motor and run that. Save the original motor for when you sell it
I had the pleasure of working on the original Super Snake. It was Carols personal car for quite awhile. It had a little misfire and we ended up replacing the dual set of points and resetting the dwell and it ran like a dream. Amazing car.
Love those older Shelby Cobras. Also thanks for doing a video tour of the Shelby facility in Las Vegas. Awesome that Shelby still does the Hertz "Rent-A-Racer" program. I know a lot of military people who would love to drive a race car but don't want to spend money on a garage-only vehicle. Awesome that Shelby is keeping that dream alive.
Welcome to the club. my car has been down almost a full year. even after $5000 wasted on a new engine more mishaps = still dealing with bullshit. send me prayers plz.
It’s just a test to see how much you want it.. don’t give up, it took me 1 1/2 yrs to get my C5 to behave properly on track. I absolutely want to see you set some lap times with this baby, specially if you come around here in SoCal so we can see where we at with this thang💪🏎
@@damonzilliox2751 You've missed a bunch then. Just a couple of episodes back he used the lath to create a custom pulley. He was a machinist in the US army for years.
@@ryurc3033 Cleeter blew up a SME , not SMX (yet) . He's now going to run Steve his SMX out of the Wagon though. Yeah, destroyed that Godzilla pretty soon indeed but I like the fact he's giving all engines a hard time , regardless the make. Ford, Chevy and undoubtedly a Dodge in the future .. that keeps us watching😅
Doesn't look like valve lash issues but I never rule stuff out when it's not me with my hands on it. No offense to Hoovie or anyone involved but owning and maintaining a race car is a bit different than doing so on a "race" (street) car. There's a reason even the amateur guys have a sort of pit crew for the cars maintenance and on race days. It's not totally different from the modified diesel truck I think it was that Wizard had someone else handle, it's kind of a specialized thing even though it's in a similar orbit. I had a pro street Trans Am back when I was younger and it was really eye opening to how even though it's all kind of the same moving parts, keeping it race ready and maintained is a bigger beast than it might look. My 2c as a random internet opinion anyways! I do hope you get to vintage race at some point, it's been a long time dream of mine but I've never really been able to make it happen.
Absolutely this. Put a healthy normal high performance crate motor Ford engine in it with a mild cam and a mild clutch to match. You have to be realistic and make the car drivable on the street. It will still sound like Hell has come to Hoovies when you crank it up. I have to say, the old engine sounded beautiful. I will miss that sound. It was perfection.
@@phil4986 No. Its a race car. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Next step is pull the head and figure out why it wasn't getting lubricated. What Charles said below is likely the root cause...crappy cast rockers that can't take the stress of a high lift cam., Change all the rockers, fix the head and/or oil supply and run it some more. The crate motor all or nothing solution is an overreaction and would ruin the visceral driving experience of this car. Its easy to spend other people's money.
@@lukewalker1051 Yea, I get that. The rockers look stock which makes no sense with a high life cam. At this point in time, Hoovie has to watch his expenses anyway so I expect whatever the car Wizard can do to fix the current engine is what Hoovie will go with anyway. Hoovie's entire UA-cam channel is about spending other people's money, on hoopties. High class hoopties but hoopties. I wish him the best.
@@bobmcl2406 The bell housing and the transmission output shaft will determine that. The Car Wizard can make anything Hoovie wants done work. And really, the Car Wizards group of auto work contractors could probably get Hoovie a quality rebuilt and warrantied engine cheaper than he could buy a crate motor. IF this engine is ruined.
Eight and nine hundred HP Shelby's now days. Wow. Still surprised Shelby never made the throwback Cobra. It was on the cover of one of those rags years ago.
Got to say I’m from the uk and the tour of Shelby has blown me away ! Great to see that there is still life in the American car manufacturing. God bless America 🙏🏻👌
I continue to wish you the very best of luck on this Shelby journey. Is it worth it? I’m not sure, but sometimes, as they say …. the Joy is in the Ride. Thanks for the video.
Kellington Link That Hertz Shelby is a classic and an icon. Yeah, it's worth it. At any cost. I'd kill to be the savior of a car like that. There's a place in heaven for people that take on those projects.
I’m kicking myself. I would stop at the truck stop across from Shelby and I never took the time for a tour. I remember once the parking lot at the race track was full of new Mustangs. Now you’re talking a Shelby Truck. 👍
Having been in a 350h before, what stuck out to me was the tiny mirrors when backing it out of a warehouse. That car recently sold for 150k for the vin matching car.
My brother had a '66 Mustang up until just a few years ago and that tiny little round mirror on the drivers side and no mirror on the passenger side always threw me off. He pulled it out of my parents garage one day and dragged the side across the side of the garage opening because he wasn't used to no mirror (and, apparently, not looking over his shoulder) and I thought he was going to puke.
The amount of time you have no hands on the wheel in your videos or are looking at the camera instead of the road gives me anxiety. I love the content and the journey you've been on to get where you are but stay safe please Tyler!
If the wizard doesn’t want work on it, and if you need to find someone who is well versed in Shelby specific work, “Bandelier mustang connection” in Jefferson City Missouri. Paul Bandelier is one of the best in the Midwest.
Im 63 and grew up working on muscle cars and it seemed many time it was almost always Fords that came up with oiling and valve train problems - friend of mine I remember had a GREAT running 71 Ranchero with a high output 351 Cleveland and the valvetrain always had issues, after total replacement of cam, lifters roller chain (twice) complete machine shop valve job with all oiling galleys checked new HV oil pump and all new parts the thing would run like a scalded dog - for awhile. Then eventually the valves would get noisy and it was all downhill from there. OIl pressure was always good and compression tests showed all good cylinders with no oil in water or water in oil - eventually he didnt want to go any further and was fed up with the car and sold it, shame - that Cleveland really had a lot of grunt especially behind an automatic. His 69 Roadrunner on the other hand with its 383 Magnum had no such issues and with good maintenance we never even had to pull the heads, only new valve cover gaskets and a new roller chain once just because we thought it better safe than sorry. As said below, this could be a different scenario since it may have wrong rocker arms etc. and since im more a chevy guy than ford the guys below sound like theyve spotted the problem with it having the wrong rocker arms, ie: short slot rockers instead of long slot, as they say if its oiling ok a set of roller rockers may be in order - but I thought he said it was oiling on the left and not on the right so............
We (TangoClassicAuto) had vin#302 GT350 back in the day. Well, we had quote a few prime examples! But that was one of my favorites. Great job, Jeff Taylor was an amazing owner, and great all around guy. Shelby will always have a major part in my life ; ESPECIALLY since I named my daughter SHELBY! Great video as usual Tyler! Thank for the memories, and cheers to more coming!
Damn. I really had hopes that you would get this car right. I know this is Hoovie’s Garage, but a GT350 is NOT a Hooptie, and I think Tyler already knows that. I was just so excited that it was “fixed” that when I saw this video my heart dropped.
I don't remember if its a numbers matching car but if its not, please just put a new period corect-ish engine in it. That engine to far into the racing side for the reliability you really need.
@@extremecheddarswityomom as high turned as that engine is it is going to need almost constant tinkering to keep it running right. The way he is with cars he might race 1 or 2 times a year and completely ignore the car the rest of the year. He would be better with something reliable unless he becomes a serious racer.
Nice to see a raw, old school car assembly line. Something about the boxes and tyres dotted about that makes it feel real. Not like a mcclaren factory where you can eat off the floor.
HOOVIE I'm gonna be real with ya lol. love the channel and content but if you weren't so well off id almost feel bad for u. I too am a glutton for punishment and buddy I'm here for it lmao
He makes more money off his car "problems" via youtube than it costs to make the repairs. So, never feel bad for Hoovie. It is just his business model, and we all seem to like it.
Prolly a bit to much spring pressure and possibly lifter failure trying to control valve float at high RPM. Could be the rockers ... But since one side failed and one didn't, rockers not likely. This is why it's very important to have screens epoxied on top of the oil return passages. They capture the broken pieces before they can circulate. Also, you can go to more modern valve spring designs with slightly less pressure open that will still work well. Now that you have the engine partially torn down, go the rest of the way and do the clutch right. You can go to a street/track clutch and light flywheel w/o so much pedal force and it'll be a lot better for the thrust faces on the crank and bearings, and your leg if you are in a long'ish race ...
The street I grew up on was Shelby Dr. My Dad worked at the Woodlawn Stamping Plant, I grew up a Ford kid in the 60-70’s. I live in Las Vegas now and get to go to the Shelby store anytime, it would have been cool to see you.
I’ve read that back in the day some people would rent these from Hertz and swap the engines….crooks will be crooks…. Btw; I hate the look of those air cleaners; they look like birthday cakes….🤣😂
It was so crazy running into you at the Casey's station this afternoon. I'm sorry I was a pretty nervous and couldn't get the words out. Also I was in my scummy work clothes. Either way I know you were busy and I appreciate the couple words u did say. I can't wait to see the video on the new purchase. I'm sorry again I wasn't able to make words into a full sentence. I did want u to sign my truck I just couldn't say it! Star struck a little I'd guess ud say!
Those copper and billet aluminum cars were a million plus each. They had to buy, I think 3 tons of that copper sheet because it had a specific alloy to make it easier to work without cracking while forming or burning through while welding. Hot Rod magazine did an in depth article on n them. The billet car is freaking sexy underneath
I live in Vegas and just finally got around to going to Shelby recently because they have a Cars and Coffee there every Saturday. So incredibly cool in there. My favorite car was the copper Cobra that Hoovie showcased.
Hoovie - your Mustang is a simple fix. Those are the wrong rocker arms. They cannot support a high lift cam (internal slot is too short). A set of roller rocker arms, or at least some designed for high lift will solve your issue. Essentially, with a high lift cam, the rockers traveled all the way to the end of the slot, and at full lift, couldn't travel any further, thus the weakest link broke - and that weak link is the cast rocker arms.
Listen to Charles. Race motors aren't the Wizard's expertise.
That’s 100% right, it needs a nice set of roller rockers not stock style ones based on the rpm he seems to be running it too. I also would check the pushrods and make sure he didn’t bend any
What did it have in it originally? How were those motors known for their free revving nature? Didn't the O.G. Shelby gt350 have a fairly high redline? What if roller rockers aren't allowed in that class of vintage racing?
SVRA is the most stringent on engine specs and roller rockers are allowed. Agree with one of the other comments, the wrong rockers were used and/or not adjusted properly. I would venture to say the studs may be wrong. Curt Vogt, Cobra Automotive are the guys to talk to and pretty darn helpful.
@@lukewalker1051 💯 I’ve watched many videos from hoovie and thier have been multiple times that I’ve heard the wizard say something that makes no sense. I immediately knew that was the issue the moment I seen the damage and the face I made when the wizard tried to say it was an oiling issue must’ve been priceless🤦🏻🤪
The MOST needed hooptie for your fleet has to be a used tow truck
He needs a ramp truck like Finnegan uses
Alex Jones called this channel a towing channel. Lol
Hoovie wouldn't take the time to learn how to use a tow truck.
@@thatdellguy he already knows how to load a car on trailer so I dont think its much more to learn
I think Randy @ Auto Auction Rebuilds has one.
Something bad always seems to happen when he gets on a racetrack so I think the universe is trying to send him a message.
Seems like he doesn't belong in a race track... 😅
He is a pretty bad driver
EVERY-TIME 😢
Maybe some one should not be driving on the track
Sorry but some people just can't be on the race track.
Hey man, none off my, or anyone else’s, business. I noticed the tan lines from the missing jewelry on your left hand. I genuinely hope you are doing ok. There are a lot of people out here that don’t know you personally, but genuinely care about your well-being. Every once in a while we all need to remember that we are loved, even if we don’t show it as often as we should. I apologize for even bringing it up, and hope I’m reading into a non-existent problem. I just lost an old friend, his note is heartbreaking. I wish I would of told him that I loved him so he’d know that he was loved by many people. Seems he only cared about the love from his soon to ex wife now widow. Keep your head up man.
Don't give up on this car, please! This is by far one of my favourite of your collection!
Absafuckingloutly is!
Fun fact: The vertical stripes under Carroll Shelby's names meant something: 1 strike was pre-heart transplant, 2 strikes were after, and 3 were all ones he had signed digitally and were printed.
I happen to have a glove box door signed by Carroll Shelby in his later years where he was struggling with not only his health but the pen was having issues so it's a legitimate signature but missing the appropriate vertical stripe and somewhat patchy in places due to the pen being troublesome. I got that signature because my grandfather (who also worked on Old Yeller II) knew Carroll Shelby personally and was invited to his 80th birthday (where the glovebox door was signed).
Enjoyed behind the scenes at Shelby Amercia. Thank you for taking us along!
Yeah Shelby’s are nice, but saying that US cars are top of the world again and Porsches and Ferraris look good in the rear view mirror, is a bit too much. No Shelby will ever be as fast as a 911
Blown many a Ford V8 motor myself. Not a single one that ever left me stranded. They always made it home. Even if on 7-6-5 cans left
I stumbled across that place several years ago on a business trip. It was free then and there was an older guy who was a racing buddy of Carroll's who showed us the cars and gave all of the histories. It looked like more of the cars are new now. When I was there, there were more original vintage cars. There was an original small-block Cobra (little blue thing I still dream about) and if I remember correctly, it was Carroll's. It had beautiful patina original seats and the story was that Carroll said he would kill anyone who upgraded them. The factory portion is closed on weekends (or was then) but the display portion is always open. A fun thing to do in Vegas. And don't miss road kill BBQ.
@@boyracer3477 That was probably CSX2000, known as the first Cobra built !!
@@arkhsm I'm pretty sure it was but it was a few years ago so I wasn't entirely sure.
Congrats Tyler...you've now entered the racecar owners club. You don't get a membership card or trophy but you do get a nice invoice every so often to remind you that your living your dream!!
At around 15mins that tour and chat didn't do justice to the Shelby facility... I would be more than happy to watch a 2 hour episode of an in-depth tour and sit down chat/interview with that chap... just absolutely fascinating!
Typical oil issues for that block. You need to check it regularly which means the wizard will be very happy. Get rid of those rockers if you can and go to roller rockers, if it meets class rules.
Training people to your standard is also cool and old school. Car companies used to do that.
Ah yes, typical Boss oiling issues. Solid lifter cam, my old XA Falcon Boss 351 dropped rockers regularly. I remember stopping on the roadside to reseat a rocker, and tighten it down. I had long chrome rocker cover wing nuts so I could do this very quickly.
This is true.
You say "old" so I presume you don't have it any more? Gotta love the XA - one of the sexiest cars of the 70's, IMO.
@@Beer_Dad1975 not around any more. The car wore XA-000 Victorian plates. That engine revved to 9000. I had the HO tachometer in it. The rear end let it run 112mph in 1st gear. Rock crusher gearbox and Detroit locker 9" rear end. The Hurst Drop side shifter made it slick as... I miss it. 😢
@@cliftonmanley3882 What decides what the max rpm for an engine should be. I can't imagine that they take the first one they build and run it to destruction. But how do they get that number?
@@boyracer3477it's usually the point where valve float becomes a major problem, determined to some extent by the valve springs. Cam balance and strength can be another limitation.
Haven't seen a video from you in a little while Hoovie. Seems quite a few other people are hoping you're doing alright too based on the comments. I hope all's okay in your neck of the woods. I always religiously watch your videos, you seem like a really nice genuine fella. If I were living near you in Kansas and bumped into you, I'd buy you a beer - you'd have all sorts of interesting stories to tell. Lots of love from Australia
The Shelby factory looked amazing. That line of black GT500 Hertz Shelbys as well as the real Shelby Lightning Ford pickup were simply beautiful. I see a tight run American business there. Which you have to have to stay in business today. I am glad to see American companies like Shelby so healthy and vibrant. They are an inspiration to other American companies to do things right.
Phil4986 I think Shelby American works because like Carroll, they are concerned with building great cars, not building a car company and a brand. That was DeLorean's problem.
This video reminds me of the museum delivery of my 2011 45th Anniversary Shelby GT350, although Shelby was located at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway facility at the time. Still have that car to this day. This newer facility is much better than the old one and every enthusiast should put a visit to Shelby factory/museum on their bucket list. Vince is the right guy leading the charge. Thanks Hoovie!
The '66 Mustang fastback is one of my all time favorite cars!!! Hang on to it dude!! A piece of Americana and SOO MUCH CHARACTER TOO!!! Good luck Hoovie.
Hope all is well. Nothing in almost 2 weeks has me worried.
I've been watching your Channel and have been subscribed for more than 2 years. I've never left a message before. However this particular one hits close to home. I lost my fiance unexpectedly because of a pulmonary embolism a few years ago. She left behind a wonderful daughter on a very loving family . she was a Mustang woman throwing it through. She loved Carol Shelby's work she owned a couple of Mustangs through her life . Her pride and joy was a 2013 Mustang GT. She spent a lot of time and love in that car to have exactly what she wanted. Some however not the most important parts of our memories together in that car. I wish I had known of that Carroll Shelby museum long ago. I know she would have been at complete aww of it . Her name was Amber DeMar. I miss her everyday.
For the love of God don't give up on THIS car!!! Definitely want to see more content with this one!!!!!!
You good Hoovie? 10 days without a video…
Love this channel . I am learning so much from all of your screw ups hoovie.
It is much less expensive to learn from others' mistakes, too expensive to make them all yourself.
Always watch your channel Tyler, done so since I found it about 4 years ago. Hope all is ok with you. Best wishes from across the pond in the proper Birmingham (UK!).
Ever since the 2005 Mustang I always though Hertz should do something special. Of course, I never thought they would. So I really enjoyed this video.
Thank you for the wonderful tour of the Shelby Factory/Museum.
Such beautiful classic American cars, completely awesome!
Just fantastic to see.
I think part of the story here, that Hoovie is starting to realize now, is that motorsport is EXPENSIVE. It's hard enough keeping modern race machines running, but vintage racing is, and always will be, a really, really fun money pit. That's why you pretty much only see rich people or very smart engineer-types doing it.
This. He thinks he's cursed, but it's just par for the course (pun haha), especially when tracking production cars - although it is a bit strange the Hertz engine would go down being that it's a pure race powerplant. Still not uncommon
Hoovie has gotten rich buying cars that have issues. He spends tons on maintenance but you gotta spend money to make money. I'd love though to know what he recent financial bind was all about.
@@ironymatt Pure race WOULD NOT have cheap Lo Po heavy cast rockers !!
@@arkhsm I'm no expert, but I don't disagree
I met Carrol Shelby when I was a kid. He was such a cool guy. When I was a kid a neighbor gave me a 1:18 replica of a 65 cobra. I've been infatuated with Shelby ever since and the cobra has always been my dream car. I'd love to go to Vegas and tour this place one day.
Fantastic episode Tyler! As a past vintage racer I've been waiting for this car to reappear. I recall from the previous episode this has an Accusump that you did not use to pre-oil before starting. Maybe that's why the troubles now?
It’s was most certainly an oil related issue.
It’s was?
How the hell do you stay so humble Dennis, you have so much knowledge yet you do not speak down or lecture people you share what you know rather than tell what you know, there is a huge difference, I take in everything and find myself understanding why certain vehicles are important. And you have proven that not all important have to be worth tens of millions, of course, you are making money but I get the impression that you love the hunt just as much if not more than the return you may get for the sale. Anyway thank you for sharing this part of your life with us and I always come away knowing more than I did about an hour ago. Being over in Scotland I don't get to see the vast majority of what you find so I find the shows extremely interesting. Though I do have a vw bus garage where I live, he does well and I believe does some custom work on them. I would love to see a ground-up restoration or resto-mod on the channel. That bus you drove to lunch was well set up, I've never been in one without slop in the steering and normally they need a week's notice to get to 50mph and that one you drove did just fine. Also, it's been years since I've seen trafficators on anything the last thing I was in with them was an old Wolseley. So thank you for all the hard work from those in front of the camera and everyone behind the scenes that brings these shows which are easily better than anything I can find on TV over here, all the best from Scotland
On race motors you need to lash ur valves regularly or else you pay. Pull that motor and fix it and store it. Buy a crate motor and run that. Save the original motor for when you sell it
Agree, it’s also not something you would ever sell so, just keep the motor for the next guy.
I had the pleasure of working on the original Super Snake. It was Carols personal car for quite awhile. It had a little misfire and we ended up replacing the dual set of points and resetting the dwell and it ran like a dream. Amazing car.
Its quite a contrast to see the new line of Hertz cars then the "Hurts" engine failure. Good luck with the repair.
Love those older Shelby Cobras. Also thanks for doing a video tour of the Shelby facility in Las Vegas. Awesome that Shelby still does the Hertz "Rent-A-Racer" program. I know a lot of military people who would love to drive a race car but don't want to spend money on a garage-only vehicle. Awesome that Shelby is keeping that dream alive.
Hoovie: "I'm ready for racing!"
Car: "Not tonight, I have a headache."
Welcome to the club. my car has been down almost a full year. even after $5000 wasted on a new engine more mishaps = still dealing with bullshit. send me prayers plz.
It’s just a test to see how much you want it.. don’t give up, it took me 1 1/2 yrs to get my C5 to behave properly on track. I absolutely want to see you set some lap times with this baby, specially if you come around here in SoCal so we can see where we at with this thang💪🏎
I worked out of the Shelby Las Vegas facility with the 2016 GT-H release installing the tracking systems for Hertz.
Wizard is a good guy, every car guy needs a Wizard in their life
@@Mouthy_Trucker Oh yeah, and I bet they can use laths and welders to fabricate parts at Walmart tire and lube too right?
@@Mouthy_Trucker Don't be a dunce. He's a amazingly smart guy and has figured out some extremely complicated problems that would stump you.
@@Mouthy_Trucker Seems to be doing pretty well for himself with his business. The reviews say otherwise about your opinion...
@@Beer_Dad1975 I've been watching the wizard's channel for a while now. I've never seen him use a lathe or a welder yet.
@@damonzilliox2751 You've missed a bunch then. Just a couple of episodes back he used the lath to create a custom pulley. He was a machinist in the US army for years.
First Tavarish, now Hoovie. Blowing up engines is the new "in" thing :)
damn copycat youtubers
You could probably build 4 shelby engines for what its gonna cost Freddie 🙂
Just saying, Cletus McFarlands team blew up a Godzilla, their smx big block, and the blower LS motor in their blazer in about 3 weeks
@@ryurc3033 Cleetus blows up everything though. He tried to blow up Tye’s ranger.
@@ryurc3033 Cleeter blew up a SME , not SMX (yet) . He's now going to run Steve his SMX out of the Wagon though.
Yeah, destroyed that Godzilla pretty soon indeed but I like the fact he's giving all engines a hard time , regardless the make. Ford, Chevy and undoubtedly a Dodge in the future .. that keeps us watching😅
Doesn't look like valve lash issues but I never rule stuff out when it's not me with my hands on it. No offense to Hoovie or anyone involved but owning and maintaining a race car is a bit different than doing so on a "race" (street) car. There's a reason even the amateur guys have a sort of pit crew for the cars maintenance and on race days. It's not totally different from the modified diesel truck I think it was that Wizard had someone else handle, it's kind of a specialized thing even though it's in a similar orbit.
I had a pro street Trans Am back when I was younger and it was really eye opening to how even though it's all kind of the same moving parts, keeping it race ready and maintained is a bigger beast than it might look. My 2c as a random internet opinion anyways! I do hope you get to vintage race at some point, it's been a long time dream of mine but I've never really been able to make it happen.
Rebuild the engine to match the flywheel so you can have the easier clutch you wanted.
Absolutely this. Put a healthy normal high performance crate motor Ford engine in it with a mild cam and a mild clutch to match. You have to be realistic and make the car drivable on the street. It will still sound like Hell has come to Hoovies when you crank it up. I have to say, the old engine sounded beautiful. I will miss that sound. It was perfection.
@@phil4986 No. Its a race car. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Next step is pull the head and figure out why it wasn't getting lubricated.
What Charles said below is likely the root cause...crappy cast rockers that can't take the stress of a high lift cam.,
Change all the rockers, fix the head and/or oil supply and run it some more.
The crate motor all or nothing solution is an overreaction and would ruin the visceral driving experience of this car. Its easy to spend other people's money.
@@lukewalker1051 Yea, I get that. The rockers look stock which makes no sense with a high life cam. At this point in time, Hoovie has to watch his expenses anyway so I expect whatever the car Wizard can do to fix the current engine is what Hoovie will go with anyway. Hoovie's entire UA-cam channel is about spending other people's money, on hoopties. High class hoopties but hoopties. I wish him the best.
@@phil4986 it's a vintage racer, not a restomod. I don't know if you can buy crate vintage replacements.
@@bobmcl2406 The bell housing and the transmission output shaft will determine that. The Car Wizard can make anything Hoovie wants done work. And really, the Car Wizards group of auto work contractors could probably get Hoovie a quality rebuilt and warrantied engine cheaper than he could buy a crate motor. IF this engine is ruined.
It’s a keeper , what a sweet piece of racing history and you own it , wow !
I like how at 3min the man just ditched all lean manufacturing and "just on time" bs and said that he kept everybody's job. Gigachad
Eight and nine hundred HP Shelby's now days. Wow.
Still surprised Shelby never made the throwback Cobra. It was on the cover of one of those rags years ago.
Got to say I’m from the uk and the tour of Shelby has blown me away !
Great to see that there is still life in the American car manufacturing.
God bless America 🙏🏻👌
I continue to wish you the very best of luck on this Shelby journey. Is it worth it? I’m not sure, but sometimes, as they say …. the Joy is in the Ride. Thanks for the video.
Kellington Link That Hertz Shelby is a classic and an icon. Yeah, it's worth it. At any cost. I'd kill to be the savior of a car like that. There's a place in heaven for people that take on those projects.
Well said ‘Boyracer’.
Never give up on your fails! 😜
Will Hoovie ever learn not to give a car the beans when it's still cold?
And doing donuts to break differentials 🍩 💥
That Dude in the light blue seemed to be like the Blue VW in Bullitt..... Constantly repeating in the scenes..
Needs a rebuild, why not ITB it. The sound would be amazing
I’m kicking myself. I would stop at the truck stop across from Shelby and I never took the time for a tour. I remember once the parking lot at the race track was full of new Mustangs.
Now you’re talking a Shelby Truck. 👍
Having been in a 350h before, what stuck out to me was the tiny mirrors when backing it out of a warehouse. That car recently sold for 150k for the vin matching car.
My brother had a '66 Mustang up until just a few years ago and that tiny little round mirror on the drivers side and no mirror on the passenger side always threw me off. He pulled it out of my parents garage one day and dragged the side across the side of the garage opening because he wasn't used to no mirror (and, apparently, not looking over his shoulder) and I thought he was going to puke.
The amount of time you have no hands on the wheel in your videos or are looking at the camera instead of the road gives me anxiety. I love the content and the journey you've been on to get where you are but stay safe please Tyler!
900HP Hertz rentals?!! Can't wait to see the subsequent videos of these cars careening off curbs during the inevitable Cars and Coffee exit burnouts.
12:20 must be a dream working on those cars...no rust, no frozen bolts, everything relatively clean.......
If the wizard doesn’t want work on it, and if you need to find someone who is well versed in Shelby specific work, “Bandelier mustang connection” in Jefferson City Missouri. Paul Bandelier is one of the best in the Midwest.
I've been there a few years ago! Cool shop, I'm glad to see they're doing well.
It's so typical when your really looking forward to something like taking your car out and then boom 😳
It was great to see the Shelby factory. thanks. I'm surprised you didn't slap any car roofs and ask "How much?"
Tough break bro, but you'll bounce back , like always!
I’ve dropped into Shelby American in Vegas twice now. In 2018 and in 2022. Just have to when one is in Vegas. What a place.
How many miles do you get after a "Wizard's" repair before your car shits out again?
It usually lasts until he gets home,at least...Usually...
Im 63 and grew up working on muscle cars and it seemed many time it was almost always Fords that came up with oiling and valve train problems - friend of mine I remember had a GREAT running 71 Ranchero with a high output 351 Cleveland and the valvetrain always had issues, after total replacement of cam, lifters roller chain (twice) complete machine shop valve job with all oiling galleys checked new HV oil pump and all new parts the thing would run like a scalded dog - for awhile. Then eventually the valves would get noisy and it was all downhill from there. OIl pressure was always good and compression tests showed all good cylinders with no oil in water or water in oil - eventually he didnt want to go any further and was fed up with the car and sold it, shame - that Cleveland really had a lot of grunt especially behind an automatic. His 69 Roadrunner on the other hand with its 383 Magnum had no such issues and with good maintenance we never even had to pull the heads, only new valve cover gaskets and a new roller chain once just because we thought it better safe than sorry. As said below, this could be a different scenario since it may have wrong rocker arms etc. and since im more a chevy guy than ford the guys below sound like theyve spotted the problem with it having the wrong rocker arms, ie: short slot rockers instead of long slot, as they say if its oiling ok a set of roller rockers may be in order - but I thought he said it was oiling on the left and not on the right so............
Shelby was so good at so many things. I Man worth looking up to, and even idolizing. 🤟
Great to see Shelby’s operation. Amazing cars!
Your tow truck driver had a big ‘ol smile on his face as he was pulling away 😂
nitpicking on my end but if you're paying almost $100k for a super snake truck, please paint the mirror endcaps body color...
We (TangoClassicAuto) had vin#302 GT350 back in the day. Well, we had quote a few prime examples! But that was one of my favorites. Great job, Jeff Taylor was an amazing owner, and great all around guy. Shelby will always have a major part in my life ; ESPECIALLY since I named my daughter SHELBY! Great video as usual Tyler! Thank for the memories, and cheers to more coming!
Still waiting for one of the bri'ish Bristol cars, like Bristol 405...much more interesting consequences than owning a Bentley Turbo R ;)
Damn. I really had hopes that you would get this car right. I know this is Hoovie’s Garage, but a GT350 is NOT a Hooptie, and I think Tyler already knows that. I was just so excited that it was “fixed” that when I saw this video my heart dropped.
Tyler that video was extremely exciting, thanks for the tour at Shelby's!😎
This is why its best to leave it stock and why we warm up engines before we put the pedal to the metal kids 😁
Best way to warm up an engine is to drive it!
Warming the engine up doesn't magically make parts lubricated if the oil isn't flowing to them.
@t44e6
Thats why maintenance 🙂 and warm ups are important
@TCM
That is correct
Just start it and drive of keeping it under 4000 rpm
I have a lot of videos of how to maintain and break in engines
When I visited the Shelby facility in Las Vegas, I must have looked out the windows into the shop for 30 minutes. What a place!
I don't remember if its a numbers matching car but if its not, please just put a new period corect-ish engine in it. That engine to far into the racing side for the reliability you really need.
He wants to race it though. Why take out the racing engine if it’s going racing?
@@extremecheddarswityomom as high turned as that engine is it is going to need almost constant tinkering to keep it running right. The way he is with cars he might race 1 or 2 times a year and completely ignore the car the rest of the year. He would be better with something reliable unless he becomes a serious racer.
Hoovie, you look worn down. Please remember to eat, and to not drink booze. Love you man, sorry about the tumult.
I wouldn't let wizard rebuild it. Take it to an expert Tyler.
Thanks. How nice.
"Sorry, you're trying to build a car here 😅"
"NO, YOU'RE FINE 😡"
I had no idea Shelby was still going strong. What they were making there made me drool.
Well someone's been hiding under a rock then 😂😂
@@piuthemagicman So it would seem!
Great tour of the cobra facility!!!
Nice to see a raw, old school car assembly line. Something about the boxes and tyres dotted about that makes it feel real. Not like a mcclaren factory where you can eat off the floor.
I have always and will always love this channel
I'd love to see an 80s Shelby on the channel, they're clinically forgotten about.
Were they all not Chryslers in that era?
@@machtschnell7452 Dodge Omni, Dodge Charger and Challenger which were rebadged Galants
He’s got better than that, he’s got a 60s Shelby.
Great tour. Wizard will get that motor sorted.
HOOVIE I'm gonna be real with ya lol. love the channel and content but if you weren't so well off id almost feel bad for u. I too am a glutton for punishment and buddy I'm here for it lmao
He makes more money off his car "problems" via youtube than it costs to make the repairs. So, never feel bad for Hoovie. It is just his business model, and we all seem to like it.
@@CharlieNagoo guy cant catch a break lol its just funny at this point lmaoo
Prolly a bit to much spring pressure and possibly lifter failure trying to control valve float at high RPM. Could be the rockers ... But since one side failed and one didn't, rockers not likely. This is why it's very important to have screens epoxied on top of the oil return passages. They capture the broken pieces before they can circulate. Also, you can go to more modern valve spring designs with slightly less pressure open that will still work well.
Now that you have the engine partially torn down, go the rest of the way and do the clutch right. You can go to a street/track clutch and light flywheel w/o so much pedal force and it'll be a lot better for the thrust faces on the crank and bearings, and your leg if you are in a long'ish race ...
What a Horrible thing to happen to your Motor , Fingers crossed it's not too bad 🤞
Another great video from Hoovie. Keep it going
Sell it and get a normal street going version.
Amen. Get the ford built 69 version.
The street I grew up on was Shelby Dr. My Dad worked at the Woodlawn Stamping Plant, I grew up a Ford kid in the 60-70’s. I live in Las Vegas now and get to go to the Shelby store anytime, it would have been cool to see you.
I’ve read that back in the day some people would rent these from Hertz and swap the engines….crooks will be crooks….
Btw; I hate the look of those air cleaners; they look like birthday cakes….🤣😂
Hoovie, I had the same expression when I saw your motor making noise and then you’re video cut to you doing the same face… hilarious!
Please stop putting the previews at the beginning of your videos. They add nothing, and if nothing else, are annoying spoilers.
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It was so crazy running into you at the Casey's station this afternoon. I'm sorry I was a pretty nervous and couldn't get the words out. Also I was in my scummy work clothes. Either way I know you were busy and I appreciate the couple words u did say. I can't wait to see the video on the new purchase. I'm sorry again I wasn't able to make words into a full sentence. I did want u to sign my truck I just couldn't say it! Star struck a little I'd guess ud say!
And I'm pretty happy it's not riptide blue😂
Those copper and billet aluminum cars were a million plus each. They had to buy, I think 3 tons of that copper sheet because it had a specific alloy to make it easier to work without cracking while forming or burning through while welding. Hot Rod magazine did an in depth article on n them. The billet car is freaking sexy underneath
Hoovie love the content on the video I think it’s so informative and historical value on cars is so important
15:30
MOST savage quote in automotive history on UA-cam.
This was a beautiful thing to watch. Thanks Tyler.
Hertz has been in the news lately for reporting their renters as having stolen the cars they've rented legally.
Buy a Hooptie, get a Hooptie. His channel is the living example of what cars not to buy, and what not to do!
I live in Vegas and just finally got around to going to Shelby recently because they have a Cars and Coffee there every Saturday. So incredibly cool in there. My favorite car was the copper Cobra that Hoovie showcased.
When I saw those broken rockers my jaw dropped... wow.