Battle of Edgehill 1642 DOCUMENTARY (English Civil War)

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    The Battle of Edgehill took place on October 23rd 1642, and was the first major field battle of the English Civil War- a conflict which transformed Britain.
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  • @historigraphextra5461
    @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому +26

    PSA: If you're somebody who has watched this video and would like to subscribe to see more, please be aware that since February 2018 I upload my history videos on a new channel, called historigraph: ua-cam.com/users/Historigraph - so go subscribe there!!

  • @briansmith9439
    @briansmith9439 6 років тому +2

    Great order-of-battle doc. My direct ancestor, Thomas Sheppard, was in Balfour's Lifeguard Regiment on the left which moved to the rear. The Lifeguard Regiment followed the Lobsters in their late charge that broke the center line of the Royalists. He was later captured at Oxenton and held for 5 weeks before making his escape. Bedford, in charge of the horse for Parliament, went over to the Royalist side after this and participated in their siege of Gloucester.

  • @Shunteration
    @Shunteration 6 років тому +32

    Whoever would've won on that day, whether Essex or Charles, they would've been declared...
    ...The Edgelord.

  • @tankdude7290
    @tankdude7290 5 років тому

    I grew up in Powick opposite the church and you can still see musket ball holes in the side of the building, so awesome to see the history represented :)

  • @Ftanftangfnarrr
    @Ftanftangfnarrr 6 років тому

    Brilliant work - the scene setting was particularly excellent.

  • @maistanley8770
    @maistanley8770 6 років тому +11

    You have a fantastic commentary voice for historical event I love it!

  • @historigraphextra5461
    @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому +14

    If you're enjoyed this video, please do consider sharing it and so on; I enjoy making these kinds and would love for them to reach more people who are interested in this kind of thing.
    Also, while I'm here let me point out a minor factual error- I got the towns of Tewkesbury and Shrewsbury confused in my notes at some point while writing the script for this- Shrewsbury is most certainly not in the Severn Valley!
    Thanks for watching guys

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому

      I hadn't done anything on the civil war until I took a module this year (I'm in my third year of university), and had no idea how much went on in my local area. Going to have more videos on it soon. Thanks for watching mate

  • @1951GL
    @1951GL 6 років тому

    Sound narrative - well done.

  • @tbj1972
    @tbj1972 6 років тому

    Great video 👍

  • @Archangel-mz3yo
    @Archangel-mz3yo 6 років тому +1

    As always it was a pleasure for me to watch!

  • @mrsniffles5417
    @mrsniffles5417 6 років тому

    Just found this channel, love the video! This period is in dire need of more attention. I hope you do more of this kind of thing, seems like a step away from the rest of your content but it's very well done!

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому

      +Mr Sniffles Thanks for watching man! Going forwards I'm looking to make this history series my main piece of content, so I'm glad you liked it.
      I am going to be doing more on the civil war as well; next video will be out on 25th Nov and will cover the events around Bristol in 1643

  • @vinodvarghese78
    @vinodvarghese78 6 років тому

    Good video and voiceover. Hope to see more. Cheers!

  • @icecoffee1361
    @icecoffee1361 6 років тому

    Nice vid keep them coming 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @SamuelHallEngland
    @SamuelHallEngland 6 років тому

    Good content.

  • @CountCristo
    @CountCristo 6 років тому +9

    Wilhelm scream - nice XD

  • @Hypnotic24
    @Hypnotic24 6 років тому +2

    Been waiting for an English civil war video.

  • @hyena-chase2176
    @hyena-chase2176 5 років тому

    good vid...thanks

  • @chrisbibb
    @chrisbibb 6 років тому

    It's a lot of work I know, but I live near to the Hopton Heath civil war battle site, do you plan of doing any more civil war battle videos describing the troop movements?

  • @knightwarrior2561
    @knightwarrior2561 6 років тому

    Awesome

  • @Korkzorz
    @Korkzorz 6 років тому

    I didn't know how this battle would turn out but for about the first half it had an eerie resemblance to Cannae

  • @Raptor747
    @Raptor747 6 років тому +22

    Wow, the Parliamentarians got absurdly lucky that almost the entire Royalist cavalry, despite being so good in a fight, were so poorly disciplined and led. It's mind-boggling--they defeated the inferior enemy cavalry, and assumed the battle was effectively won--which it WOULD HAVE BEEN, if they had continued to fight instead of chased after fleeing troops and looting. It really is insane--they didn't even try to go after the enemy's last cavalry and its commanders, vulnerable as they were.
    It was also kind of dumb for the Parliamentarians to not reinforce their musketmen to prevent them from being dislodged by dragoons.
    It was also somewhat dumb for the Parliamentarians to risk being caught in battle when they had substantial reinforcements on the way--but not yet arrived. Concentration of force is important, and if with a distinct numbers and supply advantage on their side, it was the Parliamentarians' war to lose with that kind of battle.

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому +6

      +SaltyWaffles The Royalist Cavalry’s ill-discipline was a recurring the civil war, but I supposed what you do have to consider is the battlefields are much larger than we imagine them to be, so the cavalry might have been fighting up to half a mile from the main battle line; in the heat of the moment they assume the battle is won and chase after.
      Well, the reason the Parliamentarians were so eager to join battle is that they were getting constant panicky messages from Parliament urging them to stop the King from marching straight down to London and capturing it. Holding London was incredibly important for the Parliamentarians and they undoubtedly would have lost the war had the King captured it.

    • @AdhocHoopla
      @AdhocHoopla 6 років тому +1

      Lions led by donkeys, as always.

    • @colinharbinson8284
      @colinharbinson8284 6 років тому +1

      This is early in the civil war, few of the participants were professional soldiers. Many were poorly trained local militia of which there is a story of a military exercise where one rank of musketeers shot down their own front rank!!

  • @nathanglazier7460
    @nathanglazier7460 6 років тому

    Welcome to time commanders?
    I have to assume you watched that, because I so called you ending the intro with "The english civil war has begun." It's totally their setup! XD I was kind of expecting to see total war on the screen. Still, brilliant commentary style.

  • @norwegiannightmare8843
    @norwegiannightmare8843 6 років тому

    It’s retry amazing that the parliamentary forces recovered from that initial cavalry charge

  • @maxmagnus777
    @maxmagnus777 5 років тому

    Hi, I was wondering about the role of the artillery in this battle. Also I was confused by the picture used for artillery as it is wheel and not a gun.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 5 років тому

    +1 sub
    Just discovered this channel

  • @fergrt01
    @fergrt01 6 років тому

    wooooo big up Kineton

  • @tomasroma2333
    @tomasroma2333 6 років тому +3

    i heard him scream don’t try to hide it

  • @Khasidon
    @Khasidon 5 років тому

    Will or can you move your old history movies to your new channel? They are so hard to find on this channel

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  5 років тому

      So far as I know there is no way to ‘move’ a video from one channel to another.

    • @Khasidon
      @Khasidon 5 років тому

      Do you have a playlist of your English Civil War videos? they are very entertaining and informative.

  • @CountCristo
    @CountCristo 6 років тому +5

    Wooo king found a good home in York.

  • @SkorpionMarauder
    @SkorpionMarauder 5 років тому

    Given the obvious superiority of the royalist cavalry, why not mix the parliamentarian cavalry with pike infantry? Was the concept of combined arms not developed at this point? I thought it had been about a decade earlier.

  • @japeking1
    @japeking1 6 років тому

    Thanks.... I guess I could have read this stuff, but I would never have got round to it. Why we weren't taught all this in school I just don't know.

  • @1987MartinT
    @1987MartinT 6 років тому +1

    John Pym did a lot to escalate the situation. He had several of Charles' advisers impeached and one(the Earl of Strafford) executed, he threatened the royal family at one point to get Charles to sign the execution order for Strafford, and after the failed coup he demanded that the king hand over control of the military to him. When Charles refused Pym raised an army to force the king to give in. At which point Charles raised his own army.

    • @1987MartinT
      @1987MartinT 6 років тому

      The war began on 22 August 1642, and Pym died on 8 December 1643, so he was still very much alive.

    • @richardjonesm
      @richardjonesm 5 років тому

      Pym made sure Laud got the chop too.

  • @CountCristo
    @CountCristo 6 років тому +31

    !! Why on earth did they stay stationary? Counter charge is the simplest thing of all time surely

    • @clausejoke1985
      @clausejoke1985 6 років тому +2

      " Counter charge is the simplest thing of all time surely"
      And always results in a win right? 100% .... jesus

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 6 років тому +1

      *Kekel Man* Of course not. But if you counter charge, at least you're unit is moving and maneuvering too, making for a less easy target.

    • @clausejoke1985
      @clausejoke1985 6 років тому +1

      "Of course not. But if you counter charge, at least you're unit is moving and maneuvering too, making for a less easy target."
      Are you serious?
      You are charging the enemy and this is supposed to minimize losses because you are "making for a less easy target" ?
      I hope this is some kind of cringy attempt to troll me.

    • @bigfetaslap7204
      @bigfetaslap7204 6 років тому +8

      Kekel Man The fact that you reacted so aggressively and you're not even thinking about the positive impact of counter charging is pretty cringy to me.

    • @clausejoke1985
      @clausejoke1985 6 років тому

      "you're not even thinking about the positive impact of counter charging"
      Nice straw man.
      But you are fine with the argument "you are a less easy target" as if charging the enemy is going to minimize losses.
      Well then teach this new solution at military academies I am sure this will go well.

  • @randomguy-tg7ok
    @randomguy-tg7ok 6 років тому +6

    Ah yes, the English Civil War. The very reason why the British have never been very keen to get rid of the monarchy again...

    • @MrHermit12
      @MrHermit12 6 років тому +1

      So King Geroge III was king in name only? I thought he was the one to set up Constitutional Monarchy. My source is a BBC (official voice of GB) documentary.

    • @MrHermit12
      @MrHermit12 6 років тому

      BBC George III The Genius Of The Mad King
      . It has been time since I've watch it. I may just be remembering it wrong. You know us Americans with ole Georgie 3.

    • @HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG
      @HsienKoMeiLingFormerYANG 6 років тому

      *Britannian civil war or war of the three kingdom

  • @harrydance1969
    @harrydance1969 5 років тому

    Nicely done, but a shame a lot of the details are circa "Shell guide to battles 1974" and the battlefield interpretation is now well out of date. I'm always amazed at how much Victoriana about this battle persistently lives on in "modern" accounts (including the battlefield orientation). But an excellent general guide to the battle and very watchable. Thank you!

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  5 років тому

      Most of the details for this battle come from Peter Gaunt’s recent military history of the civil war, in addition to articles from the Oxford Handbook of the English Revolution, which iirc is also quite recent.
      I’d be interested to read things that contradict what I’ve read before if you have any recommendations

  • @sairadha674
    @sairadha674 6 років тому

    Same thing happened at naseby too.

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому

      It seems to have been a theme yeah- really emphasises how important the discipline the New Model Army instilled was to its success

  • @CountCristo
    @CountCristo 6 років тому +6

    Why would he go through Banbury? Tis a horrible place.

    • @iklone
      @iklone 6 років тому

      True, should've gone through Stratford instead

    • @gerardjagroo
      @gerardjagroo 5 років тому

      They were Banburying

  • @I_Don_t_want_a_handle
    @I_Don_t_want_a_handle 6 років тому

    The first English civil war? Does the fight between Stephen and Matilda (The Anarchy) not count nor the War of the Roses? What was the civil war after this war for it to be 'first'? The Gloriious Revolution? Is confusing!

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому

      I believe the The Anarchy and Wars of the Roses aren't considered 'civil wars' because of their feudal character. Its only possibly to think of civil wars once the concept of a nation state is established, I think.
      The Second English Civil War was fought 1647-48, again between the King and Parliament/The Army. There were then further wars over the next decade or so, culminating in the Restoration in 1660. Another name Historians use for this period is 'The Wars of the Three Kingdoms', which better captures the 20 year period of unrest across the British isles

  • @terminatorbigfoot9199
    @terminatorbigfoot9199 6 років тому

    Is this the war of roses or is that another war?

    • @iroscoe
      @iroscoe 6 років тому

      That was an earlier conflict between two Houses with claims to the throne , York and Lancaster with white and red roses as their respective emblems .

  • @mrmelon0350
    @mrmelon0350 5 років тому

    I live near Worcester

  • @Philtopy
    @Philtopy 6 років тому

    when your team looses the game because some start hunting for kills then for the objective.

  • @kaiser10298
    @kaiser10298 6 років тому +16

    yis bois
    >calls parlimentary's rebles YES finlay someone who dosent say they both same legitimacy to rule GLORY BE TO KING CHARLES, CHOSEN BY GOD TO RULE ENGLAND
    (+scotland but who cares about scotland)
    +good movie
    +talks bout the ESSENSIALNESS of cavalry in the civil war period
    +talks about significance
    > review - the best edgehill vid on yt srsly Addaway you outdo yourself yet again

  • @Schmidty1
    @Schmidty1 5 років тому +2

    First English civil war... What? Wasn't the War of the Rose's the first English civil war?

  • @DougStewart
    @DougStewart 6 років тому

    Bunch of Limeys rolling around rough trade in the muck.

    • @darrenhudson5503
      @darrenhudson5503 6 років тому

      Douglas Stewart called history mate

    • @sjames5027
      @sjames5027 5 років тому

      Enough of your porn fantasies

  • @kainebishop3970
    @kainebishop3970 5 років тому +1

    In a draw the defender wins. So sayeth I.

  • @Dumpstermuffin1
    @Dumpstermuffin1 5 років тому

    its because if Charles that monarchs are not allowed to enter the house of commons

  • @TheWoollyFrog
    @TheWoollyFrog 6 років тому +12

    This was an edgy battle.

  • @TheKeithvidz
    @TheKeithvidz 6 років тому

    indisciplined cavalry in time the New model army of parliament forbade leaving the field.

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому +1

      Yeah, the New Model Army was pretty transformative

    • @TheKeithvidz
      @TheKeithvidz 6 років тому

      goes to show commonors may tend fare best in assorted fields, Mongols a next case.

  • @lumburgapalooza
    @lumburgapalooza 5 років тому +1

    But what of the Powelshipshirehamwickbury Prefectureshire's levying of Crownship tithe bip bop bing bong knickers? Surely that was worth mentioning.

  • @TheWoollyFrog
    @TheWoollyFrog 6 років тому

    *Woosh-ter*

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 6 років тому

      ... I'm not entirely sure about the point you're trying to make, but I would put the pronunciation as wuss-ter.

    • @TheWoollyFrog
      @TheWoollyFrog 6 років тому +1

      No point. Just amused by English idiosyncrasies that have survived into the modern age. You probably take it for granted that place names aren't pronounced the way they are spelled.

    • @SebAnders
      @SebAnders 6 років тому +1

      The Woolly Eel
      Worcester
      Leicester
      Warwickshire
      Norwich
      Berwick
      These names were invented to confuse the Germans during the war don't you know!

  • @ME-ki7vq
    @ME-ki7vq 5 років тому

    why you no funne

  • @stefanodogg280
    @stefanodogg280 6 років тому

    It is a sad thing that Ireland, Scotland and Wales didn't make a strong pact and destroy tyrannical England

    • @garrygilmoreseyes486
      @garrygilmoreseyes486 5 років тому

      Oh fuck off you ignorant stupid cunt, political conflict was a lot more complicated than your ethnic hatred. Not to mention the fact that the king himself was Scottish, I hate bigots like you, are you even from any of these countries you dumb cunt?

    • @robplazzman6049
      @robplazzman6049 5 років тому

      Why ?

  • @philjones7870
    @philjones7870 6 років тому

    I'd have beheaded Prince Rupert that evening for being a total F*ckwit. To my thinking Rupert's idiocy caused the loss of Charles' head.

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому

      I mean I’m not sure how much personal responsibility you can attach to Rupert- the army had only been formed for a few months, and the cavalry was made up of impulsive nobility/gentry who didn’t take kindly to much discipline.
      You also have to bear in mind that Rupert was a skilled military commander in his own right; you can look at the victory at Powick Bridge and at the Siege of Bristol in 1643 (another video of mine)

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому

      Undoubtedly though, Royalist cavalry indiscipline through the war cost Charles dearly

  • @eventerminator1382
    @eventerminator1382 6 років тому

    Battle of the edgiest

  • @kostasmpyras
    @kostasmpyras 6 років тому

    I was rooting for the royalists :(

  • @gerardjagroo
    @gerardjagroo 5 років тому

    Why are cavalry men often so dumb? Instead of wheeling to decide the battle the just chase their counterparts off the field?

  • @metalmadsen
    @metalmadsen 5 років тому

    The colours should have been reversed ...

  • @alexanderchenf1
    @alexanderchenf1 6 років тому +2

    A process that saved English and human freedom from following the path of Rome.

  • @thebeezknees
    @thebeezknees 5 років тому +1

    Bloody royals, how many English have died because of them. waste of money.

  • @thesaturdaytechchannelwith553
    @thesaturdaytechchannelwith553 5 років тому

    For the Republic!! Monarchistic scum :D

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  5 років тому

      The irony is that the parliamentarians during the civil war didn’t fight for a republic; their slogan was ‘for king and parliament’. Only a small minority favoured killing the king

  • @steve5123456789
    @steve5123456789 6 років тому

    Fucking useless cavalry.

  • @VCYT
    @VCYT 6 років тому +3

    UNLIKE FOR LYING
    He wasn't the king of England, he was the king of Britain, as both nations were technically joined in 1603.

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому +15

      Untrue- the act of union wasn’t until 1707. Charles was King of England, Scotland and Ireland, separately. The Civil Wars are sometimes called ‘The War of the Three Kingdoms’ because of this

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 6 років тому

      Charles I was technically only King of England, despite the fact that his father ended up being James VI of Scotland and James I of England. This was the sort of _de facto_ joining that many pieces of "Britain", such as the Isle of Man, exist in today.
      However, the Act of Union (with Scotland) was indeed ratified by England and Wales in 1706, and by Scotland in 1707, under the rule of Queen Anne.
      Still, it didn't exactly merge the nations. Just having the same monarch doesn't mean that the nations are merged. Just ask a Canadian.

    • @anExplodingLemon
      @anExplodingLemon 6 років тому

      random guy He was definitely King of Scotland as well- in fact his coronation in 1633 caused some controversy, since it didn’t take place at Scone, the traditional site for Scottish Kings to be crowned. Nevertheless, you’re correct in the assertion that he was very much England-oriented as he visited Scotland rarely following his crowning. From a political standpoint Scotland was more or less run by the Kirk and nobles until it was subjugated by Cromwell some time later.

    • @nabobofdub4631
      @nabobofdub4631 6 років тому

      It was in a personal Union.

  • @PtolemyJones
    @PtolemyJones 6 років тому

    blah blah f'n blah, is there a channel anywhere that just talks about the battles?

    • @historigraphextra5461
      @historigraphextra5461  6 років тому +1

      Sorry if its not quite for you- I just think it important to try and give a sense of how the battles came to be and the importance of them

    • @PtolemyJones
      @PtolemyJones 6 років тому

      It's not just you, all the battle channels are doing it now. There used to be a few that focused on the battles themselves, which I liked. If I want the world view and the background, there are plenty of videos that do that already...

  • @purplefood1
    @purplefood1 6 років тому

    The English fighting the English? I can't support a loser!

  • @davidconley3734
    @davidconley3734 6 років тому

    I wish the Monarchy won. Maybe it was better then, but now we're run by cucks with no backbone who only care about multiculturalism..