@@blablablaa14windy is linked with lebron and grew up in high school together I think, ESPN not letting that go, pretty sure that’s how he got to this point and sure he has good connections.
The most mind boggling stat is the Thunder still have more steals than turnovers this season. They have 292 STEALS (not just opp turnovers) on the season and have only turned the ball over 280 times. That's a +12 differential. No team in history has ever had a positive diff in those 2 stats this deep into the season.
Vibes for the Bucks are definitely better this time this year than last, despite the record being much worse. We still don’t know everything about what went wrong with Griffin, but it was pretty clear that the whole team hated playing for him and the team wasn’t as good as their record suggested.
The coach mic was awful. For a minute I thought there was some type of audio error going on - why tf am I constantly hearing 1 guy yelling, can't they fix this?!
I kinda agree with both of them. It definitely did not make for good TV, but it was almost one of those "so bad, it's good" kind of things where it got me to chuckle every time Doc starts yelling over Bryan Anderson trying to do his job lol
narratives are so crazy because no way you watched that game , especially towards the end of that 3rd quarter , and don’t see that Giannis-Dame actions are night and day compared to last year
So many media members push that agenda cause they want to travel to miami New York Los Angeles and enjoy the perks of those towns for themselves rather than having stars in small markets
Great performance by the Thunder. Mavs beat OKC 2 weeks ago without Luka. Not a big deal to Mavs fans if #1 team in the west beats out of shape Luka. Come playoff time Luka will dominate OKC.
@@LD21333 it’ll def be a mavs victory and look forward to the practice round. Don’t delete your post like all the thunder fans did last year when they lost.
@@23maximus76 oh I promise you I’ll be back to this post when the Thunder beat the Mavs (if they match up). Congrats on making the finals and getting smoked like backwoods by the Celtics, it was very uninteresting. OKC is the captain now
JOSH OKOGE SAID TO STEPHEN A SMITH "YOU CAN CRITIQUE THE OTHER TEAM WITHOUT DISRESPECTING US.PUT SOME RESPECT ON THE FLAG 🇳🇬 AND THE MOTHERLAND. DONT FORGET WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS COME FROM "
It’s amazing how often Brian is incorrect when giving a stat or a recollection and Bontemps has to correct him. His basketball knowledge is so poor when surrounded by real analysts who aren’t on first take.
totally disagree. the defense is not the problem. the defense is good. the issue is definitely offense, but that's not an issue either. it's going to come along. this team almost lost the magic game on offense not defense. transition defense was great, the zone was great. this team has defensive limitations, but they've spent most of the season focusing on defense i think his assessment is narrative based.
Bucks need to move on from Lopez for an upgrade on the perimeter if they want to contend. Giannis and Dame can go for 70 and they're still totally beatable bc there's literally no production from anyone else.
@safs_dk He's 2-3 years away. Brook is great if you're playing Embiid or Joker, but against athletic teams which is most of the league he's a huge liability and that money would be better spent on a perimeter role player.
Pat attention. OKC plays this type of defense night in and night out. It wasn't a bad game for the Mavs offensively, it was a regular night for OKC on D.
@@MeMe-ef5fw Great performance by the Thunder. Mavs beat OKC 2 weeks ago without Luka. Not a big deal to Mavs fans if #1 team in the west beats out of shape Luka. Come playoff time Luka will dominate OKC.
Does this show feel like there’s always some animosity between the hosts? Like it feels like their personalities don’t mix. Several times they spoke over each other or just outright ignored the other, weird vibes
Great performance by the Thunder. Mavs beat OKC 2 weeks ago without Luka. Not a big deal if #1 team in the west beats out of shape Luka. Come playoff time Luka will dominate OKC.
The glaze for OKC is crazy. They are the image, the NBA wanted the grizzlies to be. But neither team has won nothing but a first round series. Yet OKC is talked about being the champs and grizzlies at 2nd are talked about as a fringe contender. Bias trash
Maybe because last year was okc’s FIRST EVER PLAYOFF run and they’ve already equalized the grizzlies success lmfaoo and they are young and it’s pretty obvious when you look at their trajectory they have the potential to be the next up, they are only gonna get better. The reason the grizzlies don’t get talked about is cause they’re a few years detached from any real success lmfao. 2024 Missed Playoffs and Play in due to injuries 2023 As the 2nd seed lose to the 7th Seeded Lakers in 6 in the first round I mean come on man, use ur brain a little before making a emotional comment that obviously has its own bias lmfao. Not to mention multiple guys are either having down yrs or just producing the same they have the last 3 seasons on Memphis.
This podcast should stick to talking about the narratives around the league, trade rumors and notable quotes. Windhorst understands that's his lane/bread & butter, Bontemps does not. Every time Bontemps tries to actually analyze basketball, my brain starts to leak out of my ears. Stick to the strawpolls, actual basketball analysis is for people who thrive off doing it. Bontemps needs to recognize where his strengths are.
The Hawks are going to get much worse in this season. Trae is an awful player and he is not making the all star game shooting in the 30% from the field
@@ilovekaiyko Yeah its not like 20 games is a quarter of the year right? Stats don't show anything other than factual data. That's not critical at all right?
How in the world, did this panel of basketball experts, not guess Zion !! “He scores only in the paint” “Nikola Jokic?” You experts aren’t great thinkers. Just blah blah blah
Tim Bontemps is relishing Dallas's loss to the Thunder and his continued distain for Luka Doncic is ever-present; he follows his company (ESPN) policy to create this negative narrative on Luka
Luka is an annoying player though, he constantly uses his off arm to create space which is called dislodging and an offensive foul, dude also complains and it looks awful when he does it like he's a spoiled, rosy cheeked fat 8 year old boy who wants a twinkie
Great performance by the Thunder. Mavs beat OKC 2 weeks ago without Luka. Not a big deal to Mavs fans if #1 team in the west beats out of shape Luka. Come playoff time Luka will dominate OKC.
@kraw3026 Atlanta is playing better than their record. Trae as a playmaker this year, is an added dimension. Knicks fan here lol they play tonight for a trip to Vegas. Goodluck bro
SHAI ALEXANDER AND LYKA CARRIE THE BALL AND PUSH OFF ON EVERY POSSESSION. I WISH REFS WOULD CALL MORE PALMING VIOLATIONS ANSOFFENSICE FOULS ON BOTH OF THEM
Last good show left on ESPN
Until they change it or fire windy. Will happen one day sadly
@@blablablaa14windy is linked with lebron and grew up in high school together I think, ESPN not letting that go, pretty sure that’s how he got to this point and sure he has good connections.
@@michaelo6161you’re right…but let’s see what happens in a couple of years when LeBron retires
Or maybe when LeBron owns the Vegas team maybe he will still keep his job
He should have a good fan base
The most mind boggling stat is the Thunder still have more steals than turnovers this season. They have 292 STEALS (not just opp turnovers) on the season and have only turned the ball over 280 times. That's a +12 differential. No team in history has ever had a positive diff in those 2 stats this deep into the season.
The "Adios amigos
" sent me. I really hope the bit keeps going 😂
Vibes for the Bucks are definitely better this time this year than last, despite the record being much worse. We still don’t know everything about what went wrong with Griffin, but it was pretty clear that the whole team hated playing for him and the team wasn’t as good as their record suggested.
Always thought it was a major red flag when Terry Stotts resigned due to an argument with Griffin
I miss the Lowe Post
Go marry Zach or something then 😂😂😂
Go watch the old clips then.
So grateful for Hoop Collective uploads! :) Thank you for the insight and conversation as always.
Yeah I just want to say, you 3 are the best things happening at ESPN. & currently are cooking every pod. Thank you, fellas.
9:38 Some people comprehend the game faster then others
The coach mic was awful. For a minute I thought there was some type of audio error going on - why tf am I constantly hearing 1 guy yelling, can't they fix this?!
I kinda agree with both of them. It definitely did not make for good TV, but it was almost one of those "so bad, it's good" kind of things where it got me to chuckle every time Doc starts yelling over Bryan Anderson trying to do his job lol
narratives are so crazy because no way you watched that game , especially towards the end of that 3rd quarter , and don’t see that Giannis-Dame actions are night and day compared to last year
It’s so nice to have someone who’s not trying to push agendas of getting stars out of small markets speaking sense on this podcast for once.
So many media members push that agenda cause they want to travel to miami New York Los Angeles and enjoy the perks of those towns for themselves rather than having stars in small markets
Totally agree with Bontemps about the coaches on screen during the broadcast. Was really annoying.
Where’s the Mavs fan today? Thunder Up
Present and accounted for. Credit to the Thunder tho, having a phenomenal season
Great performance by the Thunder. Mavs beat OKC 2 weeks ago without Luka. Not a big deal to Mavs fans if #1 team in the west beats out of shape Luka. Come playoff time Luka will dominate OKC.
@ The Thunder didn’t have Chet or Hartenstein that game, but good try bud. Thunder will beat the Mavs if they matchup in the playoffs
@@LD21333 it’ll def be a mavs victory and look forward to the practice round. Don’t delete your post like all the thunder fans did last year when they lost.
@@23maximus76 oh I promise you I’ll be back to this post when the Thunder beat the Mavs (if they match up). Congrats on making the finals and getting smoked like backwoods by the Celtics, it was very uninteresting. OKC is the captain now
JOSH OKOGE SAID TO STEPHEN A SMITH "YOU CAN CRITIQUE THE OTHER TEAM WITHOUT DISRESPECTING US.PUT SOME RESPECT ON THE FLAG 🇳🇬 AND THE MOTHERLAND. DONT FORGET WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS COME FROM "
Nice prediction on the ATL windy
Good show
What was the song I wanna kno lol
It’s amazing how often Brian is incorrect when giving a stat or a recollection and Bontemps has to correct him. His basketball knowledge is so poor when surrounded by real analysts who aren’t on first take.
It's called being tired lol
trying to actually compare the rockets to okc is hilarious lol
😂😂yea u dont watch ball.
The average ticket price is way down lol
totally disagree. the defense is not the problem. the defense is good. the issue is definitely offense, but that's not an issue either. it's going to come along.
this team almost lost the magic game on offense not defense. transition defense was great, the zone was great. this team has defensive limitations, but they've spent most of the season focusing on defense
i think his assessment is narrative based.
I'll take the moral victory for my Magic. No Paolo, no Franz, no JI, and we put up a hell of a fight.
Fuark moi I was screaming “ZZZIIIOOOOONNN” it was so obvious
Give the magic some props. Any other team with four rotation players out woulda gotten stomped.
No Suggs S/O? Shame on you
R.I.P nipsey
Bucks need to move on from Lopez for an upgrade on the perimeter if they want to contend. Giannis and Dame can go for 70 and they're still totally beatable bc there's literally no production from anyone else.
Definitely need a mobile big to help Brook, I think it really depends on the match up, though. Need to let Tyler get some run and fill in that role!
@safs_dk He's 2-3 years away. Brook is great if you're playing Embiid or Joker, but against athletic teams which is most of the league he's a huge liability and that money would be better spent on a perimeter role player.
if theres no production from brook then what trade value does he have?
The league leader in assists by a mile and only half a game back of the 5 seed isn’t an All-Star? In what world
LUKA REFUSED TOBPASS TO KYRIE IRVING LAST NIGHT
Luka refused to pass the chicken on thanksgiving too. so fat
I’m with Bontemps - those shots of the coaches taking up my screen was super annoying.
Jamal Collier > Tim MacMahon
it's one game, mavs will adjust in a playoff series. they miss derrick jones as wing defender
So we're missing chat, which is a bigger piece than jones jr
Pat attention. OKC plays this type of defense night in and night out. It wasn't a bad game for the Mavs offensively, it was a regular night for OKC on D.
@@MeMe-ef5fw Great performance by the Thunder. Mavs beat OKC 2 weeks ago without Luka. Not a big deal to Mavs fans if #1 team in the west beats out of shape Luka. Come playoff time Luka will dominate OKC.
Does this show feel like there’s always some animosity between the hosts? Like it feels like their personalities don’t mix. Several times they spoke over each other or just outright ignored the other, weird vibes
Great performance by the Thunder. Mavs beat OKC 2 weeks ago without Luka. Not a big deal if #1 team in the west beats out of shape Luka. Come playoff time Luka will dominate OKC.
Nah the Thunder said this game meant more in the postgame. They all have a bad taste in their mouth from the playoff loss. As they should.
Cant wait to hear the Knicks hate 🙄
Hawks are about to beat the Knicks again
Magic got more heart than any other team. What an effort
I'm sorry, but Windy's impersonation of MacMahon is spot on. Bontemps is such a hater.
The glaze for OKC is crazy. They are the image, the NBA wanted the grizzlies to be. But neither team has won nothing but a first round series. Yet OKC is talked about being the champs and grizzlies at 2nd are talked about as a fringe contender. Bias trash
Maybe because last year was okc’s FIRST EVER PLAYOFF run and they’ve already equalized the grizzlies success lmfaoo and they are young and it’s pretty obvious when you look at their trajectory they have the potential to be the next up, they are only gonna get better. The reason the grizzlies don’t get talked about is cause they’re a few years detached from any real success lmfao.
2024 Missed Playoffs and Play in due to injuries
2023 As the 2nd seed lose to the 7th Seeded Lakers in 6 in the first round
I mean come on man, use ur brain a little before making a emotional comment that obviously has its own bias lmfao. Not to mention multiple guys are either having down yrs or just producing the same they have the last 3 seasons on Memphis.
This podcast should stick to talking about the narratives around the league, trade rumors and notable quotes. Windhorst understands that's his lane/bread & butter, Bontemps does not. Every time Bontemps tries to actually analyze basketball, my brain starts to leak out of my ears. Stick to the strawpolls, actual basketball analysis is for people who thrive off doing it. Bontemps needs to recognize where his strengths are.
Dort is Luka's daddy
Okc bad boy
Mavs go home
Yeah Bucks are back because they beat team with winning recod for 2 time this season and this team was missing two best players :D
salty
The Bucks are old other than Giannis. There really isn't any future there.
shai GAZELLE-alexander has "WINGS"
The Hawks are going to get much worse in this season. Trae is an awful player and he is not making the all star game shooting in the 30% from the field
well good thing he’s not shooing 30 from the field. also leading the league in assists. low IQ take
@@ilovekaiyko Yeah I mean 38% from the field and 30% from the three, just makes him the least efficient scorer in the entire NBA. Good stuff
@@blablablaa14 yeah.. 20 games in. watch the games, not the stats
@@ilovekaiyko Yeah its not like 20 games is a quarter of the year right? Stats don't show anything other than factual data. That's not critical at all right?
Rocket at bucks rocket will be beat lillard bucks
giannas’s bucks*
How in the world, did this panel of basketball experts, not guess Zion !!
“He scores only in the paint”
“Nikola Jokic?”
You experts aren’t great thinkers. Just blah blah blah
Tim Bontemps is relishing Dallas's loss to the Thunder and his continued distain for Luka Doncic is ever-present; he follows his company (ESPN) policy to create this negative narrative on Luka
Luka creates his own negative narrative.
What a weird conspiracy theory
Luka is an annoying player though, he constantly uses his off arm to create space which is called dislodging and an offensive foul, dude also complains and it looks awful when he does it like he's a spoiled, rosy cheeked fat 8 year old boy who wants a twinkie
maybe if luka didndt show up to every season fat and out of shape, he wouldnt be criticized
Great performance by the Thunder. Mavs beat OKC 2 weeks ago without Luka. Not a big deal to Mavs fans if #1 team in the west beats out of shape Luka. Come playoff time Luka will dominate OKC.
Again no love for thunder on mainstream media but ig this will hafta do
Buck lillard play weak magic in boring cup
Nobody is playing better than The Cavs & OKC. Spida vs GSA for MVP
Resident Hawks fan here
@kraw3026 Atlanta is playing better than their record. Trae as a playmaker this year, is an added dimension. Knicks fan here lol they play tonight for a trip to Vegas. Goodluck bro
GSA
SHAI ALEXANDER AND LYKA CARRIE THE BALL AND PUSH OFF ON EVERY POSSESSION. I WISH REFS WOULD CALL MORE PALMING VIOLATIONS ANSOFFENSICE FOULS ON BOTH OF THEM
lakers won that useless tournament last year. anything before real championship wont make any statements😂😂😂😂😂
Lillard bad team
I don't like that LAKERS are eliminated from the NBA CUP 😭
Well they suck...
We want the extra rest anyways f that shii
stop
@@johntookyobish6757overrated 40 year old needs to retire
iS IT TELLING OF POST SEASON??