I was not playing in the last minute and half of this video, that's how crashes happen in the game. Before I crashed it was even or me winning. @@outta-sync6474
Bad luck :/ but I think you played great with the early archer attack against Otto.. if I was Otto I would definitely not expect an early english style attack from hre! I would've surely lost.
I’m very excited for the recent love the Ottomans are getting. Been my favorite civ since introduction. For a very low APM player like myself, my most common mistake is forgetting to train more units. The fact that it’s not even possible with Ottomans feels like a custom made personal handicap setting. 😂
Bro just want to say I felt like I got a taste of the old rambunctious drongo on this one and I’m here for it “…and Gua if you gonna ram it in that way it just isn’t gonna fit”, 😂😂😂😂 plz more R rated commentary
Most people that are not used to play a lot of ottomans simply dont remember that janissary can repair. It could also be that faye wanted to keep the janissaries engaged in battle and use vills instead to repair by slowly pushing the bombards back and forth
Hey Aussie, thanks for finally highlighting the skills of Faye with some W's on the board. Ever since your tournament, the tenacity and grit of Faye was exciting to watch. When she swung big it really didn't seem to connect on some incredible hard match ups. I know I'd get wiped without a doubt. Hope to see more.
Great bombard definitely needed that little cost reduction, but overall, I kinda feel like the potential of the Ottomans always was there, but not really understood/leveraged properly by the pro scene until now. It's like the buffs finally made them go tryhard with the civ and allowed them to figure out things that were technically already there, like the best use of Vizier points and optimum build orders that take full advantage of the free units, for example. Also: needing less villagers is such a massive advantage in this game because of supply cap. And that point feels like it was not properly exploited either until now.
Yeah, I agree, most pros knew that feudal aggro worked so they didnt want to 'delay', but a lot of ottomans power is also in castle with free siege and a huge firepower in imperial. If the meta goes towards a eco start ottomans late game can shine.
Devs huge buff to Observatory did NOT transform the Janissary and Great Bombard. This fast Imp can't survive a serious Feudal all-in, this game was casual
You don't need to go imp. If they all in stay castle and defend with men at arms mangos. You can't look at one game and assume they would do the same in another. They can scout and adapt. Castle men at arms still destroy feudal. They normally only go imp if the opponent goes castle.
@@carlossime6572 as a French, if they manage to make to imp I always lose... How do I even survive against them as a French on imperial? any advices? lol
Again, same mistake as in the last videos. Ottoman Opponent stops making units. GUA has more then 15k res and dosent make a single unit, hes not even on pop cap. 33:15 ... right, i make horsman against an army of Janisarry and spearman. I dont get why GUA dint went for maa + Handcannoneers, maa are a much better meat shild then horseman here and traid better against anything Faye has.
running maa into 50 jannisarys? not the best idea mate. At least horseman are cheap compared to them, and with 10,000 food in the bank it doesn't matter really
@@captainvaughn5692 Dude, MAA and Horsmen cost the exact same and Janns dont do extra damage to maa, maa do more damage and take even less damage because of higher armor. Horseman also dont do there bonus damage vs Jannisarys, since they dont count as "range" unit. The Otto player has do kite back in order to effectivly fight the maa, which opens up the great bombards for culverin. 50 Horsman woundt even killed a single Jannisary, with next to no micro involved because of all that. Do you homework.
@@GiveUAnxiety At the end, yes i thought this would have been the case, there wasnt realy a reasion to quit here beside your last gold depleted. You still had some gold in the bank to fall back to and to try taking back the big gold in the middel.
Late game, GUA was fighting Faye's 100 unit Ottoman army with his 50 unit HRE army and often WINNING! Wasn't Ottomans famous in history for stronger soldiers, winning battles against larger armies? Devs made a joke of Ottoman civ
Why did GUA even tap out?? Played real REAL sloppy, but still could and should have won this game. One thing this game does not tell us: Great Bombard is "great" now. It's not.
He couldnt win at the end. Faye had 100%+ production speed and could have outlasted him no problem. Great bombards are alot better and now if you let ottomans into imp before you, its gg bc you arent outproducing them
They have a really strong food economy because of chapel (and melee units tend to be more food heavy, like horsemen and maa), arguably the best maa in the game, and they don't need ranged units to counter spearmen because they can use landsknechte. Which means they can counter everything with combinations of melee units and siege.
-Didnt go for that 4th relic and instead just running around with army. -12k food not being used. -Many battles where culverin where not shooting at the bombard, or moved too far ahead in range of the bombards. -Moving past Imam many times with horses without killing it.
Those randies need a nerf. You need 3 culverin shoots. To counter 5 of them it's really nasty with culverins. I literally have to split my army in two and attack from different angles to draw the protecting units way
Drongo, you keep being so adamant about long and unsafe trading distances.. that 24g/sec she's basically getting is pushing her quite high in gold/min. And it's extremely safe and passive income, no reliance on unsafe gold mines. The advantage to short safe trades far outweigh the idea of long distance trades imho.
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My game crashed in this game😂. Drongo would do me dirty and cast a game where the game crashes on me😂
Imagine using horsemen against janissaries
Have a remach GUA. and shut drongo up
Don’t think not crashing would have helped you 😂
I was not playing in the last minute and half of this video, that's how crashes happen in the game. Before I crashed it was even or me winning. @@outta-sync6474
Bad luck :/ but I think you played great with the early archer attack against Otto.. if I was Otto I would definitely not expect an early english style attack from hre! I would've surely lost.
I’m very excited for the recent love the Ottomans are getting. Been my favorite civ since introduction. For a very low APM player like myself, my most common mistake is forgetting to train more units. The fact that it’s not even possible with Ottomans feels like a custom made personal handicap setting. 😂
i cant upvote this enough haha! Preach!
Same! It makes me so happy to see Pros play Ottomans 😊😊😊
Great game but again we see villagers being pulled to repair great bombards while there's a whole army of jannies right next to it....
Bro just want to say I felt like I got a taste of the old rambunctious drongo on this one and I’m here for it “…and Gua if you gonna ram it in that way it just isn’t gonna fit”, 😂😂😂😂 plz more R rated commentary
29:48 LMAO. Devs don't need to fix visual glitches if this is the type of commentary we get.
great game from faye! wonder why no one repairs with the jans though :D
Thought the same she pulled the vills but had jans there
Most people that are not used to play a lot of ottomans simply dont remember that janissary can repair. It could also be that faye wanted to keep the janissaries engaged in battle and use vills instead to repair by slowly pushing the bombards back and forth
Also, having vills close by helps to build outposts as you push, so those vills will be busy all the time.
Possible but i think she forgot 🤨🤷
Hey Aussie, thanks for finally highlighting the skills of Faye with some W's on the board. Ever since your tournament, the tenacity and grit of Faye was exciting to watch. When she swung big it really didn't seem to connect on some incredible hard match ups.
I know I'd get wiped without a doubt.
Hope to see more.
Players: go up to imp at anypoint
Drongo: Fast Imperial is on the menu bois
GUA is obviously playing while working on his other PC... Real "proof" that Great Bombard is good now LOL
25 min and 7 upvotes?
the Botting is strong with this muppet :D
Great bombard definitely needed that little cost reduction, but overall, I kinda feel like the potential of the Ottomans always was there, but not really understood/leveraged properly by the pro scene until now. It's like the buffs finally made them go tryhard with the civ and allowed them to figure out things that were technically already there, like the best use of Vizier points and optimum build orders that take full advantage of the free units, for example.
Also: needing less villagers is such a massive advantage in this game because of supply cap. And that point feels like it was not properly exploited either until now.
Yeah, I agree, most pros knew that feudal aggro worked so they didnt want to 'delay', but a lot of ottomans power is also in castle with free siege and a huge firepower in imperial. If the meta goes towards a eco start ottomans late game can shine.
I dont think people realise jans repair seige
Dudes buff Istanbul Observatory to +40%, make Great Bombard a bit cheaper and some people believe that means "Great Bombrd is good now". Super logic
4 minutes ago and already 6 upvotes? HHAHAHAHA
But carry on Botboy
Devs huge buff to Observatory did NOT transform the Janissary and Great Bombard. This fast Imp can't survive a serious Feudal all-in, this game was casual
guy is calling the top 100 players in aoe4 as casual, i cant even.
so delusional
@@jeromethy The match was casual, no $$$ here. GUA played like, never-seen sloppy
You don't need to go imp. If they all in stay castle and defend with men at arms mangos. You can't look at one game and assume they would do the same in another. They can scout and adapt. Castle men at arms still destroy feudal. They normally only go imp if the opponent goes castle.
Drongo forcing devs to nerf ottomans 😅
They gonna do that
Nah, they're still sitting on 47% winrate in top-level play.
@@agnosticpanda6655 52.7% in high level with 60% matches against French and china. The last patch they had 54% winrate.
@@carlossime6572exactly. They were already strong and now they are just stupid. And one of the easiest to play. Literally a flood of units
@@carlossime6572 as a French, if they manage to make to imp I always lose... How do I even survive against them as a French on imperial? any advices? lol
Again, same mistake as in the last videos. Ottoman Opponent stops making units. GUA has more then 15k res and dosent make a single unit, hes not even on pop cap.
33:15 ... right, i make horsman against an army of Janisarry and spearman. I dont get why GUA dint went for maa + Handcannoneers, maa are a much better meat shild then horseman here and traid better against anything Faye has.
running maa into 50 jannisarys? not the best idea mate. At least horseman are cheap compared to them, and with 10,000 food in the bank it doesn't matter really
I crashed xD Drongo did me dirty :D
@@captainvaughn5692 Dude, MAA and Horsmen cost the exact same and Janns dont do extra damage to maa, maa do more damage and take even less damage because of higher armor. Horseman also dont do there bonus damage vs Jannisarys, since they dont count as "range" unit. The Otto player has do kite back in order to effectivly fight the maa, which opens up the great bombards for culverin. 50 Horsman woundt even killed a single Jannisary, with next to no micro involved because of all that.
Do you homework.
@@GiveUAnxiety At the end, yes i thought this would have been the case, there wasnt realy a reasion to quit here beside your last gold depleted. You still had some gold in the bank to fall back to and to try taking back the big gold in the middel.
@@captainvaughn5692wtf? Mma are cheap and tankier than horsemen they are the answer for janisarry
GUA is so bad lol
love your videos man
Why are jannessaries strong against cav when they got mowed down by cav IRL
I love how you spell Archer like "Archa'"
god i wish Australia was real
why does he have janissaries AND spearman? isn't that redundant since they both fight cavalry
20 min Fast imp lol 19:49
Late game, GUA was fighting Faye's 100 unit Ottoman army with his 50 unit HRE army and often WINNING! Wasn't Ottomans famous in history for stronger soldiers, winning battles against larger armies? Devs made a joke of Ottoman civ
G’day ottomans
Why did GUA even tap out?? Played real REAL sloppy, but still could and should have won this game. One thing this game does not tell us: Great Bombard is "great" now. It's not.
He couldnt win at the end. Faye had 100%+ production speed and could have outlasted him no problem. Great bombards are alot better and now if you let ottomans into imp before you, its gg bc you arent outproducing them
He crashed at the end.
20 minutes Imperial is not a fast Imp.
Why didn't they change the Vizir point sports game buzzer yet?!! Great cast!
Why no range unit as HRE?
Because they are an "infantry" civ.
They have a really strong food economy because of chapel (and melee units tend to be more food heavy, like horsemen and maa), arguably the best maa in the game, and they don't need ranged units to counter spearmen because they can use landsknechte. Which means they can counter everything with combinations of melee units and siege.
@@RandomPerson-cc9mn ty this makes sens
0:45 Why did beasty block you? Or do u mean that he has just hidden his match history?
beasty blocked him. they had an argument over some build order shit. beasty got so angry that you would not imagine.
@@Parsapilwhat? Did it happen while on stream? Was it some kind of joke or was beasty angry for real?
Damn first time I watched the game live before drongo video
Again great cast. I... I'm in mourning because of Randy.
GUA played really poorly i feel in this one.
-Didnt go for that 4th relic and instead just running around with army.
-12k food not being used.
-Many battles where culverin where not shooting at the bombard, or moved too far ahead in range of the bombards.
-Moving past Imam many times with horses without killing it.
HRE ON TOP!
Those randies need a nerf. You need 3 culverin shoots. To counter 5 of them it's really nasty with culverins. I literally have to split my army in two and attack from different angles to draw the protecting units way
@Thunderf00t is the debunker
Why is GUA making horsemen? HC culv and some spearman...
I just got mollywhopped by Otto fast Imp in Platinum/Diamond Elo
Not gonna spoil the game huh, with a title like that?
What can counter?
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The vills greed. GUA was fighting a 98 army with his 60 army.... just dont over boom vills...alot of pros ends up in this same boat and dont realize
Ngl this Ottoman Fast imperial is kinda broken
it's easily countered if you remember to scout your opponent.
Drongo, you keep being so adamant about long and unsafe trading distances.. that 24g/sec she's basically getting is pushing her quite high in gold/min. And it's extremely safe and passive income, no reliance on unsafe gold mines.
The advantage to short safe trades far outweigh the idea of long distance trades imho.
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But this isn’t reli fast imp 😅
ottomans need a nerf bad... it was never close
How dare you call imperial at 20 minutes fast imp .. LUL
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