Demuslim had this game in his hands with that absolutely beautiful opening and threw it all away with the most bizarre decision making after reaching castle age.
I feel like among pro players, DeMuslim is the one I consistently see get into leads but not be able to close things out. Sometimes it's bad strategy choices. Sometimes it's not noticing a bunch of vils getting killed. This time it was both.
All it takes to win vs HRE as china is to kill 15 villagers with a demo ship, and also the best player in the world piloting china. Jokes aside what an incredible game.
One of the best strategic games yet. The play by play calls were even better. Big help for a lowly peasant like me. Would love to see a defensive strategy video. Especially around using the terrain to place walls/ defensive bldgs placements.
as hre. the best food source are farms under achen. just drop 5-10 farms asap. and if you want to deny the pond in the middle. just drop 2 outposts and springhalds/arrowslits. quite a weak play by demuslim
I bet DeMuslim thought the villagers vs demo ship cost was worth it especially to build more troops under pop limit. He got as much food out of the pond as he could in the process.
Best opening ever but then a truly mediocre castle age. All he needed to do was to set up farms and go to imp. Instead he fought for control of a meaningless pond and lost one quarter of his villagers in the process. I'm sure the loser was face palming after this game.
@@eroddy2513 HRE hast access to 2nd age men at arms and thus is able to harass Delhi gold very early, while Delhi has no decent counter until you're able to mass either horsemen or archers. Until then your scholar production is slowed and it's unlikely you'll be able to get a hold of the sacred sites. That means HRE will likely go to castle age faster than you and from there on out it's straight downhill for Delhi.
@@Gammeljonny thanks for the reply, that makes a lot of sense, I play fairly casually with friends so I’m trying to learn more about 1v1 strategy and matchups
I have seen Plastic level players not make mistakes like Demuslim made. And not only did he make the mistake, he did it again, and again, lost 13 vills, sent 5 more over lost them to another demo ship, and then kept going after the fish. We also need to stop calling all these guys "pro Players" the only different between them and a Gold 1 player is APM. So just refer to them as high APM level players and not pro.
TBF it's a high stress environment, and without god vision, it's easy to get fixated on the "large eco" right in front of your base rather than the triple granary in the back that he couldn't see.
a demoship walks into a bar and 15 vills left...
Demuslim had this game in his hands with that absolutely beautiful opening and threw it all away with the most bizarre decision making after reaching castle age.
I feel like among pro players, DeMuslim is the one I consistently see get into leads but not be able to close things out. Sometimes it's bad strategy choices. Sometimes it's not noticing a bunch of vils getting killed. This time it was both.
All it takes to win vs HRE as china is to kill 15 villagers with a demo ship, and also the best player in the world piloting china.
Jokes aside what an incredible game.
The rng gods smiled at him, but he wanted to eat fish
One of the best strategic games yet. The play by play calls were even better. Big help for a lowly peasant like me. Would love to see a defensive strategy video. Especially around using the terrain to place walls/ defensive bldgs placements.
I would love to know what was he thinking to put all those villagers next to the water KNOWING there will be a demo ship coming
16:21 KABOOM! *MarineLord squeals in French* 15 vills. RIP.
Congratz on the well deserved 100k Drongo. You are the pillar of the AoE4 community! :)
Fighting for that pond was a mistake , and even a bigger mistake was sending those villagers in
I like that the dead culverin still shoots down that nest of bees at the end
Refusing so hard to go into farms even when you have 1000+ wood with good eco, and instead go for the risky fish... why!?!?!?!?
as hre. the best food source are farms under achen. just drop 5-10 farms asap. and if you want to deny the pond in the middle. just drop 2 outposts and springhalds/arrowslits. quite a weak play by demuslim
16:23 terrible terrible terrible damage with demo ship
The demo ship was the MVP
that demo ship deserve thumbnail
It would spoil the surprise
Sheesh demu threw that one
I loved that English Ottoman game you mentioned. Peak AoE4
I bet DeMuslim thought the villagers vs demo ship cost was worth it especially to build more troops under pop limit. He got as much food out of the pond as he could in the process.
WOW I had to rewatch that epic moment a few times
Big throw from demu
WHAT A THROOOOW!
demuslim dodged the first demo, but kept fishing anyway?...
26:50
That throw back reference
Nice nice nice "Demon"-ship from ML.
Congrats to the 100k Drongo thanks for the daily content
Did they remove the ban on stonewalls and keeps?
yes, that ban was only in round 1. This is round 3 now
Hey Aussie, Love your content. Question. What was the main change in the English that made you switch?
The way you said demo ship :):):):)
Best opening ever but then a truly mediocre castle age. All he needed to do was to set up farms and go to imp. Instead he fought for control of a meaningless pond and lost one quarter of his villagers in the process. I'm sure the loser was face palming after this game.
wait drongo on 100k subs ??
100k Drongo! GZ
I just realized that it is hre, for holy Roman empire and not 'archery'
What a throw
Is 2TC HRE the way to go?
yes, it's pretty strong. But maybe drongo was right in this matchup it might be better to go fast imp
As a HRE Main I Feel like the easiest MU is vs Dehli
11:03 its three😾
so weird my best matchup as a china main in plat is china vs hre. my hardest is french due to me not putting early pressure on gold.
casual IRA quote about killing Thatcher, ok Aussie
drongo is mr. aoe 4 to me. ever since i got it on game pass release ive subscribed
As a non english speaker i have to ask, aren't you supposed to say ARE instead of is here? 12:30
Fish is both used in singular and plural
lol @ 14 mins lets look at the farm production zero farms thats why i like meinwerk no prssure for early farming if i dont need it
Can someone explain why exactly HRE is a bad matchup for Chinese?
Chinese tends to play slow, allowing HRE to boom and, once HRE gets comfortable, it’s really hard to hurt them.
BOOOOOOM
10 minutes in, house on other side of TC. Why???
Hi Drongo :)
DeMuslim has not been playing a great tournament at all. What's going on there, did I miss something?
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A Muslim leading HRE, that's a new reality!
DeMuslim isn't actually Muslim. He's named in honor of Muhammad Ali the boxer.
Hardest MU would be HRE vs Delhi.
I play both china and delhi and both matchups vs HRE are absolutely terrible.
Why is HRE v Delhi such a tough matchup? I don’t play either often so my knowledge is pretty low on them
@@eroddy2513 HRE hast access to 2nd age men at arms and thus is able to harass Delhi gold very early, while Delhi has no decent counter until you're able to mass either horsemen or archers. Until then your scholar production is slowed and it's unlikely you'll be able to get a hold of the sacred sites. That means HRE will likely go to castle age faster than you and from there on out it's straight downhill for Delhi.
@@Gammeljonny thanks for the reply, that makes a lot of sense, I play fairly casually with friends so I’m trying to learn more about 1v1 strategy and matchups
I have seen Plastic level players not make mistakes like Demuslim made. And not only did he make the mistake, he did it again, and again, lost 13 vills, sent 5 more over lost them to another demo ship, and then kept going after the fish. We also need to stop calling all these guys "pro Players" the only different between them and a Gold 1 player is APM. So just refer to them as high APM level players and not pro.
TBF it's a high stress environment, and without god vision, it's easy to get fixated on the "large eco" right in front of your base rather than the triple granary in the back that he couldn't see.
Lol I can assure you gold I players don't play like that, not even plat I players.
why do MarineLord has same vills with soong bonus not active vs 2TC?
DRONGO I AM SORRY ABOUT FITZBRO.. HE BETRAYED YOU. HE SHOULDNT HAVE DONE THAT
What happened?
Wait, what happened? Haven't heard about that one
@@jiobahnvanderpaardt5559 clearly I have betrayed him according to OP. Maybe it will be explained in the next video. Like, subscribe, and comment!
Why Demuslim do you care so much about this stupid water? Go for his farms... What a pity ...