I have flown with a good many Swiss pilots during my airline career, and they often casually remarked that they were also flying for the airforce on these wonderful aircraft. Generally I don't do envy, but in this case I make an exception. Flying these jets around the stunning Swiss mountains must be something else: every pilots dream. There is a video of a Swiss Hunter climbing the Matterhorn somewhere on UA-cam ... enough to bring tears to your eyes :-)
Thanks for the comment Chris. It's a bit of a cliche but the Swiss Alps truly are such a beautiful place. We're off to Axalp again this year, absolutely incredible place to watch and film these guys 👍
Colonel Chuck Bortman was a friend. They MORE than met their goals back in the day and ecm fire control upgrades, with low radar visibility signatures it's dangerous again wit it's extreme maneuverability.
@@jakerazmataz852 I worked on them for several years in the Aggressors. - I was assigned to a WCS spot (Radar/Weapons Control Systems) but worked all systems - it's an excellent plane for close in dogfighting - very manueverable; but outside of that role it couldn't compete with the F16 or more advanced aircraft - it would never get close enough to use that superior close quarters manuevering. - It was perfect in the Aggressor role specifically because we were training pilots in those specific (close in dogfighting) skills.
It is a fighter and interceptor aircraft, extremely reliable, highly maneuverable and encompasses a low cost and a high benefit, versatile and light, it can be used both in ground attacks and in air combat. The F-5 Tiger, without a doubt, is a great fighter plane that will be in the Hall of Fame of fighter aircraft. Remembering that currently the most modern versions of the F-5 in the world are in service with the Brazilian Air Force..
@@vintageguitarz1: WELL - The B-52 Stratofortress Bomber is even older & it is still being used by the U.S.A.F, thanks to it's constant upgrade's over the years, so, why can't it be the same for the Northrop F-5 to have a longer service life.
F5 Tiger between the best combat jets builded ever, fast, big reaction driving angle, great upgraded capability, great weapon charge availability, etc. etc.
@@shidongxu3410 Airforces all over the world use "old" planes because they are STILL very capable in the right roll. Mig-21, B-52, TU-95, F-4...etc....
It’s a good thing for a light fighter jet, but it’s never good to operate a fighter jet that’s clear, doesn’t fit for the BVR era, and it’s too old. Fall losses often occur when it gets old, and one F-5E pilot was retained in S.Korea a while ago.
Are u kidding, the cheap ass Swiss are still fly ancient F-5's as their fighter jets!!? Those were out of date in 1980! USAF Capt retired 20th SOS, 27th Spl Ops Wing.
Absolutely. I’ve just come back from Greece where I was shooting their F-4 Phantoms. Also a really old jet but man are they cool!!!! :) thanks for the comment 😎
!!!FANTASTIC!!! Every single video that you post of these Swiss F-5s & Hornets is perfect! Great closeup of the F-5s hiking the nose gear. But "097" had me worried. I was waiting for him to declare that his a/c was U/S and to taxi back to his shelter? Do you happen to know what this a/c's engine problems were? And interesting low light conditions? But still laser sharp focus and definition! It's like I am looking out my front window for goodness sakes! Cheers! 🇨🇦🍺🇨🇦🍺🇨🇦
looks like an afterburner problem to me. The RH exhaust tube is more of an orange colour, the normal afterburner flame colour is blue (visible at 4:17)
GREAT VIDEO! That take off angle of attack adjustment through the front landing gear suspension was a new information for me... Does anybody know how are those F5s comparing to the Brazilian Air Force ones? Greetings from Brazil.
You mean the Brazilian Tiger F-5E to the Swiss Tiger F-5E? Theoretically the same, practically I know that the Swiss army develops changes themselves from time to time, so there is rarely anything like the normal series. For example, as far as I know, the F/A-18 flies with a different or adapted software.
F 5 é um avião muito bonito e muito bom e versátil. No Brasil os F 5 ainda estão voando a pleno, porém já irão começar a parar gradativamente assim que os novos F-39 forem chegando este ano.
the F-5E Tiger use to be the main fleet aircraft of the Philippine Air Force. but soon parts were no longer available. the last one has been decommissioned six years ago.
The F-5 was introduced during the Vietnam War. It didn’t carry enough ground ordinance compared to the F-4, F-105, A-6, and A-7. Also compared to a Mig-21, in a dog fight, the F-5 was agile, but the engines were something under powered and if the F-5 lost energy, the only way to recover was to dive. Oddly the F-5 was leased to the South Vietnamese AF. Also the U.S. Navy Top Gum school I believe use the F-5 as aggressor aircraft.
@@peterresetz1960 The f 5 didn't need to carry ground ordinance, it was an interceptor. As to the engines, had the US adopted the plane the engines would have been upgraded, just like we fix deficiencies in all the airframes we use. Then we'd festooned it with bombs, like we do the f15s. But even if we couldn't, only about 23 percent of enemy pilots downed were as a result of guns. The rest were downed by missiles and a super agile plane that is slightly underpowered is a good fit for that. Just keep the nose on target to guide the missile. No, nothing wrong with the F 5 that some tlc couldn't fix. There's a reason they are only now being retired. Cheap, rugged, agile, fast, and easy to fly, the f 5 was an amazing plane for its time.
are these planes armed during this excercise? or are they just carry fake sidewinders? are the tigers from the patrouille suisse doing as well ..hot missions for the airforce..? i hoped so much, that pilatus would have come up with at jetplane to replace the oldtimer tiger. a pc 25... short start and landings, all weather, fast, cheaper, homemade. obviously not to compete against a f35. just a solid, agile airpolice plane with very flexible functions. a bit of a warthog, f16 and a f18
die dinger sind so klein, die kommen ohne haengebauchzusatztanks keinen meter. wo haben die eigentlich ihre internen tanks? in der ultraschmalen tragflaeche bestimmt nicht. aber schoene klassische form haben die beiden f5 und f18. hatte ich beide mal als plastikmodell.
Actually, Northrop never built the Tiger Shark. The Tiger Shark would have been designated F-20. It was supposed to be an upgrade if the F-5. Prototype examples of the F-20 are beautiful aircraft.
@@davidknight6981 You are right. General Charles Yeager tested the F20 and considered it a better aircraft than the F16 by that time. Greetings from Brazil.
@@andreferro4618 Yeager was on the payroll so he may not have been totally objective. My understanding is that the F5/F20 could not carry as much of a load as the F16. The F5-20 may be really sexy looking high performance airplane but these type of planes are basically mobile weapon platforms.
I have flown with a good many Swiss pilots during my airline career, and they often casually remarked that they were also flying for the airforce on these wonderful aircraft.
Generally I don't do envy, but in this case I make an exception.
Flying these jets around the stunning Swiss mountains must be something else: every pilots dream.
There is a video of a Swiss Hunter climbing the Matterhorn somewhere on UA-cam ... enough to bring tears to your eyes :-)
Thanks for the comment Chris. It's a bit of a cliche but the Swiss Alps truly are such a beautiful place. We're off to Axalp again this year, absolutely incredible place to watch and film these guys 👍
@@UKAviationMovies Enjoy !!
I should really get up there myself, it's just across the border for me.
Colonel Chuck Bortman was a friend. They MORE than met their goals back in the day and ecm fire control upgrades, with low radar visibility signatures it's dangerous again wit it's extreme maneuverability.
Love the F-5 - great plane!
I saw a documentary, it was effective, cheap, easy to service, I think it was, as usual, a political decision not to go with it.
@@jakerazmataz852 I worked on them for several years in the Aggressors. - I was assigned to a WCS spot (Radar/Weapons Control Systems) but worked all systems - it's an excellent plane for close in dogfighting - very manueverable; but outside of that role it couldn't compete with the F16 or more advanced aircraft - it would never get close enough to use that superior close quarters manuevering. - It was perfect in the Aggressor role specifically because we were training pilots in those specific (close in dogfighting) skills.
Completely useless in combat and prone to engine flame-outs during ACM - what is not to like?
It is a fighter and interceptor aircraft, extremely reliable, highly maneuverable and encompasses a low cost and a high benefit, versatile and light, it can be used both in ground attacks and in air combat. The F-5 Tiger, without a doubt, is a great fighter plane that will be in the Hall of Fame of fighter aircraft. Remembering that currently the most modern versions of the F-5 in the world are in service with the Brazilian Air Force..
Thanks for the great comment Paulo 😎👍
Love the F-5 such a beautiful aircraft
Hello From New Hampshire (USA)
My son would totally agree with you sir, the Northrop F-5 is one of his favorite military aircraft of all time.
Are your F'ing kidding, those F-5's were out of date in 1980! Even Taiwan uses their old ones as Park displays!
@@vintageguitarz1: WELL - The B-52 Stratofortress Bomber is even older & it is still being used by the U.S.A.F, thanks to it's constant upgrade's over the years, so, why can't it be the same for the Northrop F-5 to have a longer service life.
I so love the clean looks of the F5.
Beautiful video!! The F-5 will always be one of my favorites. Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it Robert. I will miss these jets when they retire as well :(
and the award for best cleaned canopies goes to... the Swiss.
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4:44 ....perfection, in design ...and pilot execution.
I’m with you there bud! Thanks for commenting 👍
Both planes are fantastic fighters, and I would jump at the chance to fly either one. Thanks for the video.
Me too. … and I’m not even a pilot 😳😳
今さらF5のカッコよさにハマる
Un Chile f5 tiger III UP grade for capacity to 2027.
F5 Tiger between the best combat jets builded ever, fast, big reaction driving angle, great upgraded capability, great weapon charge availability, etc. etc.
F5 is old enough to be retired
@@shidongxu3410 beyond old enough, that thing is ancient
@@shidongxu3410 Airforces all over the world use "old" planes because they are STILL very capable in the right roll. Mig-21, B-52, TU-95, F-4...etc....
It’s a good thing for a light fighter jet, but it’s never good to operate a fighter jet that’s clear, doesn’t fit for the BVR era, and it’s too old. Fall losses often occur when it gets old, and one F-5E pilot was retained in S.Korea a while ago.
@@martinblank1484 maybe it's because they're broke lol
The F-5E Tiger is a very good aircraft. with good maintenance, and some upgrades, it can serve very well for a long time.
Are u kidding, the cheap ass Swiss are still fly ancient F-5's as their fighter jets!!? Those were out of date in 1980!
USAF Capt retired 20th SOS, 27th Spl Ops Wing.
F5 has been around for a long time, still great!!
Absolutely. I’ve just come back from Greece where I was shooting their F-4 Phantoms. Also a really old jet but man are they cool!!!! :) thanks for the comment 😎
fantastic video thank you very much !
You’re welcome 👍
O Brasil possui os melhores F5 do mundo . 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Love to be flying the F-5
That sound... I haven't heard it in years... it's recorded so well I can almost smell the kerosene.
Thanks for the comment 👍
Those Mig 28s are really cool. I didn't realize they change the angle of attack for takeoff with the Hydraulic nose wheel lift.
!!!FANTASTIC!!!
Every single video that you post of these Swiss F-5s & Hornets is perfect! Great closeup of the F-5s hiking the nose gear. But "097" had me worried. I was waiting for him to declare that his a/c was U/S and to taxi back to his shelter? Do you happen to know what this a/c's engine problems were?
And interesting low light conditions? But still laser sharp focus and definition! It's like I am looking out my front window for goodness sakes!
Cheers! 🇨🇦🍺🇨🇦🍺🇨🇦
looks like an afterburner problem to me. The RH exhaust tube is more of an orange colour, the normal afterburner flame colour is blue (visible at 4:17)
That’s the smoothest F18 landing
Love the F-18s
Perfect video ! The Tiger F-5F biplace is too "sexy".
Comparing to my country swiss F-5 looks clean and well maintained
Those machines are so clean looks like you all rubbed it with a diaper what a fine example !
Crazy difference i feel between the acceleration of the FA-18 compared to the F-5. Love the looks of both.
Absolutely bud. Despite the F-18 being so much bigger and so much heavier too. Nice observation 👍👌
GREAT VIDEO!
That take off angle of attack adjustment through the front landing gear suspension was a new information for me...
Does anybody know how are those F5s comparing to the Brazilian Air Force ones?
Greetings from Brazil.
You mean the Brazilian Tiger F-5E to the Swiss Tiger F-5E? Theoretically the same, practically I know that the Swiss army develops changes themselves from time to time, so there is rarely anything like the normal series. For example, as far as I know, the F/A-18 flies with a different or adapted software.
That Tiger looks a mean machine!
The f-5 still looks amazing to this day
It really does. One of those rare jets that looks as good as a twin stick as it does as a single, like the Mirage 2000 👍
Of course To be a RIO officer in both fighters would be terrific
Great video
Pode até ser antigo, mas que é bonito, ele é sim!
those mig28's look awesome
😅😅
F 5 é um avião muito bonito e muito bom e versátil. No Brasil os F 5 ainda estão voando a pleno, porém já irão começar a parar gradativamente assim que os novos F-39 forem chegando este ano.
the F-5E Tiger use to be the main fleet aircraft of the Philippine Air Force. but soon parts were no longer available. the last one has been decommissioned six years ago.
F-5 used in Brazil too
Nice mate.
Australia
You can't argue with that... the F5 is still sexy.
Damn right! :D
I love the F 5 tigers. I think the US missed a step by not employing them.
The F-5 was introduced during the Vietnam War. It didn’t carry enough ground ordinance compared to the F-4, F-105, A-6, and A-7. Also compared to a Mig-21, in a dog fight, the F-5 was agile, but the engines were something under powered and if the F-5 lost energy, the only way to recover was to dive.
Oddly the F-5 was leased to the South Vietnamese AF. Also the U.S. Navy Top Gum school I believe use the F-5 as aggressor aircraft.
@@peterresetz1960 The f 5 didn't need to carry ground ordinance, it was an interceptor. As to the engines, had the US adopted the plane the engines would have been upgraded, just like we fix deficiencies in all the airframes we use. Then we'd festooned it with bombs, like we do the f15s. But even if we couldn't, only about 23 percent of enemy pilots downed were as a result of guns. The rest were downed by missiles and a super agile plane that is slightly underpowered is a good fit for that. Just keep the nose on target to guide the missile. No, nothing wrong with the F 5 that some tlc couldn't fix. There's a reason they are only now being retired. Cheap, rugged, agile, fast, and easy to fly, the f 5 was an amazing plane for its time.
F-5E 👍 from Russia 🇷🇺
Here in Chile us air force have f5 tiger
If you enjoy the video don't forget to hit that like button 👍😎
Trade notes with the US Marines fighter wing with F5s
Nice one ! :-)
What kind of MSFS add on is this, very realistic
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I have a question. Why do these F-5's bob up & down at the nose gear prior to takeoff ?
are these planes armed during this excercise? or are they just carry fake sidewinders? are the tigers from the patrouille suisse doing as well ..hot missions for the airforce..? i hoped so much, that pilatus would have come up with at jetplane to replace the oldtimer tiger. a pc 25... short start and landings, all weather, fast, cheaper, homemade. obviously not to compete against a f35. just a solid, agile airpolice plane with very flexible functions. a bit of a warthog, f16 and a f18
F-16 and A-10 that's all you need👍🏻😊
😎😎 two of the best! 😎😎
F5 i F18 odlični avioni fajteri
Too bad they're not flying the F-20, a great plane that should have been built.
The F-16 was a better choice for most but should have been on the "must buy" of most 2nd/3rd world nations as the F5/20 was perfect for them.
F-5 still the best first jet
die dinger sind so klein, die kommen ohne haengebauchzusatztanks keinen meter.
wo haben die eigentlich ihre internen tanks? in der ultraschmalen tragflaeche bestimmt nicht.
aber schoene klassische form haben die beiden f5 und f18.
hatte ich beide mal als plastikmodell.
Correction - that's not a Hornet that's the normal F-18
Sadly our rmaf F5E/F RF5E already retired long time ago...😢
Canada should buy/build a fleet of f-5s
f5 and f18 is the same but the f18 is more advance more manurable and better its like father and son
They are 100% not "the same"...totally different platforms.
the F5 and T38 are almost identical but neither of them are 'the same' as an F18... seriously... not even close...
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Tem q deixar eles não aposenta já q tem poucos grip
А если попасть, хоть из пистолета, в этот бак топлива под корпусом... останется топ оружием Швейцарии?)
The dreadful "Mig-28"
The F-5 should return as drones with lasers ..gaultin and smart missiles
why
同樣是F-5EF 台灣維修保養不如瑞士，他們的戰機狀況一直保持最佳戰力！
Swiss aircraft are always pristine it seems! I'd love to see a Taiwanese F-5. I love their colour scheme!
Did you mean MIG-28 ?
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what is the significance of the red missile and belly tank?
Towed target I think bud 👍
@@UKAviationMovies Merci
Did the F5 get a new nose ?
Is F5 still relevant today?
Not in engine performance no, but retrofitted F-5s have the radar and missiles to still pose a big threat, especially in the mountains.
It's roll dependent. For the price, they are great for smaller poor nations facing older planes. Against a modern airfare or air defense, no.
台灣的F5生產線的關閉是非常可惜的。
I agree, a real shame:(
ฉันว่าเครื่องบิน F5 ตัวที่อัพเกรดเต็มที่ฉันว่าสู้เครื่องบินจากค่ายรัสเซียได้ทุกรุ่นเพราะอะไรเพราะความลับมันรั่วไหลเครื่องบินรัสเซียโดนโลกตะวันตกโจรกรรมข้อมูลจนหมด
ตอนแรกรัฐบาลรัสเซียอาจจะไม่เชื่อข่าวนี้พอเข้าสู่สงครามยูเครนจริงๆเขารู้ตัวแล้วว่าข้อมูลเขาโดนล้วงจารกรรมจนหมดไม่เหลือจริงๆตัวที่ดีที่สุดของเขาสามารถโดนล็อคเป้าหมายได้เพราะคลื่นสัญญาณมันไม่เป็นความลับ
Mig 28
i thought this was a game
couldnt thery find a bigger fuel tank?
they can and often do have a center line fuel tank attached for longer flights. (plus they can do aerial refueling)
I thought it was a game
Tiger Shark what they used to call them
Actually, Northrop never built the Tiger Shark. The Tiger Shark would have been designated F-20. It was supposed to be an upgrade if the F-5. Prototype examples of the F-20 are beautiful aircraft.
@@davidknight6981 You are right.
General Charles Yeager tested the F20 and considered it a better aircraft than the F16 by that time.
Greetings from Brazil.
@@andreferro4618 Greetings Andre.
@@andreferro4618 Yeager was on the payroll so he may not have been totally objective. My understanding is that the F5/F20 could not carry as much of a load as the F16. The F5-20 may be really sexy looking high performance airplane but these type of planes are basically mobile weapon platforms.
@@ccrider8483 I see your point.
It makes sense.
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F-5 a McConnell Douglas or an F-18-E. Purdy sure Avionics would be to Lockeed Martin. See first shoot first at speed.
Nice for adolescents.
Are they using F-5???? Why they are still torturing the grandfa fighter?
You can’t flare the F-5s I see them that you got to fly them down to the runway at a point or the numbers
Seems F5 has landing speed higher than F18.
Seem F5s don't land on carriers.
@@martinblank1484 I see catapult hook still on nose wheel of this Swiss F18.
@@alexlo7708 Funny...wonder why they leave it on...
@@martinblank1484 Dunno
Too bad the f-20 was never made
I know right. An awesome little jet 👍
So I downloaded your video, what are you gonna do about it, clown?
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Ktu sasht swiss ktu asht slovenia shupli kamen
And what are the chances of a swiss fighter pilot being shot down by enemy fire?😂
:)
개 고물!
f5 is small but terrible
The Swiss need fighters like a fish needs a bicycle.
Switzerland IS green 💚 😉👍
They seem to be well maintained. Welcome to OTAN
Slava Ukraini 👍
Are u kidding, the cheap ass Swiss are still fly ancient F-5's as their fighter jets!!?
USAF Capt retired 20th SOS, 27th Spl Ops Wing.
They've ordered F-35s, but they don't really need advanced jets. Or any jets at all.
Thanks for your service in the 20th SOS. I grew up seeing MH-53s around US installations around the U.K. Beautiful machine 😎