iv got a hybrid turbo B9.5 Audi S4. So I'm maxed out on the stock motor. I have the resources and the drive to go to the next level. So I'm showing interest here.
Good morning Dave! Thank you for the Pre Turkey Day content! Best wishes to you and the family! Time to get ready for work while I watch my favorite content!!! Toodles 😂 ✌️ I love the Kapton Tape idea to protect the head. Smart. I also love that rainbow 🌈 surface finish! You mentioned a generic requirement for "1,000 HP" builds as far as spring specs. That being 100lbs or so on the seat, 200+ open. Is that a general rule of thumb that can be applied to the 4g63 as well? As a DSM owner, even the "fast" builds don't mention specifics when it comes to valve train components. People seem to buy company "x" or "y" springs and throw them in and send it. I've never heard a single person mention spring specs. I'm under the impression it's because people trust the company name and run with them, never really measuring install specs. My brain is going down a rabbit hole that I probably shouldn't be, especially when I'm not awake completely 😅
@@highpsiguy4085 good morning and happy turkey day to you and your family! Yes, those specs are the same across most applications but does include the 4G. Agreed, nobody talks about the specs they only mention the brand. Mostly because they lack of experience or knowledge. Most manufacturers don’t have anything for that power, you really only have GSC or Kiggly that can supply a spring that works well in that arena. And I would recommend the GSC conical over the beehive from either manufacturer.
@@headgamesas always. WONDERFUL insight and knowledge that speaks to your experience. I'm looking for a simple spring upgrade for my DSM. It's currently only making 400whp in E85 and a FP Black turbo (60mm). The turbo will be the power limitation, tapping out at about 550whp. Anyway as you said all I hear in the DSM world is names. Never specs. And we both know names mean nothing if the specs aren't the best for YOUR setup. Anyway, as mentioned I'm looking for a spring for mid power level setup. Stock head with 272 Kelfords. A common budget upgrade I used on my last car is a factory Evo beehive spring. It's said that offers benefits over the factory 6 bolt DSM spring. But days wise, I can't vouch or say I've ever heard differences mentioned. I'd love to send my head to you for rebuild and surface decking, With my car being a budget minded car, I may not be in your league to be honest. As far a spring choice, you would recommend the GSC spring?
Is it really ea889 and not typo? can't find anything about it, EA839 exists Also EA numbers are more like engine block numbers. You might see (in past) EA number come out of dead with different cylinder heads, or EA will change by changing timing tensioner locations and they may use same head design (also head design (port shape, valve geometry and type) between 4cyl, 6cyl, 8cyl tend to be same between them in same years and applications, so porting type developed for this v6 could be used for other engine in vw/audi family. Also about engine names that are 4 letter codes are more widely used (you might know DAZA as 2.5tfsi but there are 7 different names for it and CEPA should be same, also is widely recognized by its parts number prefix 07K) (or EA839 could be called as 3.0tfsi), where last letter is whole package revision with all exhaust components (so if they add OPF filter to exhaust or change something on intake manifold it goes in v8 for example from CAUA to CAUB) tldr there is no concrete naming scheme for vw/audi engines and are mostly called by their badge on the car (1.8t 20v), so maybe relating to it as 2016+ 3.0tfsi could be best fit for this engine (if it is EA839)
@@exvils thanks so much for comment! Yes, I have struggled very hard with the Audi/VW nomenclature! Then I have been spreading the misinformation on UA-cam admittedly. I guess just calling it out by the years might help or body? Like B9 ?
ehm, strictly speaking B chassis name is for both A4 and Passat lineup, in past they had same engine layout and physical chassis (different bumpers, hood etc) and 3.0 (single turbo) and 2.9TFSI (biturbo) is in many more chassis like you said A6 (C7 chassis platform, like BMW 5 series), A7 (C7), A8 (D2 limo platform, like BMW 7 series), than in Q series of those platform (lifted SUV) and Panamera, VW Tuareg/Cayenne. Question is how much does standard engine 325hp vary from S6/S7/RS4/RS5/Panamera version that has 434hp? In past S versions of A cars had same engine block name (4.2 32v V8 in A8 for example) but head ports were different and camshaft was bigger in S/RS variants (40hp gain and by 600rpm lifted rpm where max hp/tq is) so someone has to let us know. I have found "Audi 3.0l V6 TFSI engine of the EA839 series" pdf on wiki by Audi/Porsche, but it only tackles 348hp engine (3.0tfsi CWGD)
@exvils Did anyone have flow numbers for the 3.0t heads? I've seen 2.9 numbers and peak is 210 to 220cfm. It sounds about right with many manufacturers that did 3.0l heads with 33.5 to 34mm intake valves. Usually stock around 210 to 220cfm. A good ported can get 270 to 280cfm with stock valves and a little over 300cfm with 35mm intake valves. On a 14psi setup that's almost 100whp gain and in a naturally aspirated it's 30whp or so. It's a big deal when you don't have an aftermarket. I'm glad to see headgames checking this out.
@headgames you should call it a 3.0tfsi or by its 4 digit engine code Ea839 is the engine family so it could be a few different engines like a 2.9tfsi or a 3.0tfsi Kind of like an ea888 vw could be multiple versions of the 2.0t from an a3, s3, a4, passat, golf R or a gti, or it could be a 1.8t from a regular golf or jetta.
The first thing you said! You are probably the first on UA-cam to admit you are human. Thanks 🐾🐾
Another masterclass, thanks Dave.
Looking forward to that b16a2 video
Thanks.
iv got a hybrid turbo B9.5 Audi S4. So I'm maxed out on the stock motor. I have the resources and the drive to go to the next level. So I'm showing interest here.
Good morning Dave! Thank you for the Pre Turkey Day content! Best wishes to you and the family! Time to get ready for work while I watch my favorite content!!! Toodles 😂 ✌️
I love the Kapton Tape idea to protect the head. Smart. I also love that rainbow 🌈 surface finish! You mentioned a generic requirement for "1,000 HP" builds as far as spring specs. That being 100lbs or so on the seat, 200+ open. Is that a general rule of thumb that can be applied to the 4g63 as well? As a DSM owner, even the "fast" builds don't mention specifics when it comes to valve train components. People seem to buy company "x" or "y" springs and throw them in and send it. I've never heard a single person mention spring specs. I'm under the impression it's because people trust the company name and run with them, never really measuring install specs. My brain is going down a rabbit hole that I probably shouldn't be, especially when I'm not awake completely 😅
@@highpsiguy4085 good morning and happy turkey day to you and your family!
Yes, those specs are the same across most applications but does include the 4G. Agreed, nobody talks about the specs they only mention the brand. Mostly because they lack of experience or knowledge. Most manufacturers don’t have anything for that power, you really only have GSC or Kiggly that can supply a spring that works well in that arena. And I would recommend the GSC conical over the beehive from either manufacturer.
@@headgamesas always. WONDERFUL insight and knowledge that speaks to your experience. I'm looking for a simple spring upgrade for my DSM. It's currently only making 400whp in E85 and a FP Black turbo (60mm). The turbo will be the power limitation, tapping out at about 550whp. Anyway as you said all I hear in the DSM world is names. Never specs. And we both know names mean nothing if the specs aren't the best for YOUR setup. Anyway, as mentioned I'm looking for a spring for mid power level setup. Stock head with 272 Kelfords. A common budget upgrade I used on my last car is a factory Evo beehive spring. It's said that offers benefits over the factory 6 bolt DSM spring. But days wise, I can't vouch or say I've ever heard differences mentioned. I'd love to send my head to you for rebuild and surface decking, With my car being a budget minded car, I may not be in your league to be honest. As far a spring choice, you would recommend the GSC spring?
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It's an Audi EA839 not an EA889 - both title and description says EA889 :)
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Is it really ea889 and not typo? can't find anything about it, EA839 exists
Also EA numbers are more like engine block numbers. You might see (in past) EA number come out of dead with different cylinder heads, or EA will change by changing timing tensioner locations and they may use same head design (also head design (port shape, valve geometry and type) between 4cyl, 6cyl, 8cyl tend to be same between them in same years and applications, so porting type developed for this v6 could be used for other engine in vw/audi family.
Also about engine names that are 4 letter codes are more widely used (you might know DAZA as 2.5tfsi but there are 7 different names for it and CEPA should be same, also is widely recognized by its parts number prefix 07K) (or EA839 could be called as 3.0tfsi), where last letter is whole package revision with all exhaust components (so if they add OPF filter to exhaust or change something on intake manifold it goes in v8 for example from CAUA to CAUB)
tldr there is no concrete naming scheme for vw/audi engines and are mostly called by their badge on the car (1.8t 20v), so maybe relating to it as 2016+ 3.0tfsi could be best fit for this engine (if it is EA839)
@@exvils thanks so much for comment! Yes, I have struggled very hard with the Audi/VW nomenclature! Then I have been spreading the misinformation on UA-cam admittedly. I guess just calling it out by the years might help or body? Like B9 ?
Audi owners will know what you mean by b8/b8.5/b9.
ehm, strictly speaking B chassis name is for both A4 and Passat lineup, in past they had same engine layout and physical chassis (different bumpers, hood etc) and 3.0 (single turbo) and 2.9TFSI (biturbo) is in many more chassis like you said A6 (C7 chassis platform, like BMW 5 series), A7 (C7), A8 (D2 limo platform, like BMW 7 series), than in Q series of those platform (lifted SUV) and Panamera, VW Tuareg/Cayenne.
Question is how much does standard engine 325hp vary from S6/S7/RS4/RS5/Panamera version that has 434hp?
In past S versions of A cars had same engine block name (4.2 32v V8 in A8 for example) but head ports were different and camshaft was bigger in S/RS variants (40hp gain and by 600rpm lifted rpm where max hp/tq is) so someone has to let us know. I have found "Audi 3.0l V6 TFSI engine of the EA839 series" pdf on wiki by Audi/Porsche, but it only tackles 348hp engine (3.0tfsi CWGD)
@exvils Did anyone have flow numbers for the 3.0t heads? I've seen 2.9 numbers and peak is 210 to 220cfm. It sounds about right with many manufacturers that did 3.0l heads with 33.5 to 34mm intake valves. Usually stock around 210 to 220cfm. A good ported can get 270 to 280cfm with stock valves and a little over 300cfm with 35mm intake valves. On a 14psi setup that's almost 100whp gain and in a naturally aspirated it's 30whp or so. It's a big deal when you don't have an aftermarket. I'm glad to see headgames checking this out.
@headgames you should call it a 3.0tfsi or by its 4 digit engine code
Ea839 is the engine family so it could be a few different engines like a 2.9tfsi or a 3.0tfsi
Kind of like an ea888 vw could be multiple versions of the 2.0t from an a3, s3, a4, passat, golf R or a gti, or it could be a 1.8t from a regular golf or jetta.
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