jesus christ. this might be the single best war thunder video ever. your knowledge is unmatched. This is literally a masterclass. You are the best wt youtuber. oh my gaawwd
@MiGanFox3 no joke, of all the ones i watch, u display a more comprehensive understanding of how missile/radar mechanics work than any other youtuber. they might know the stats and ingame code better, but you actually seem to properly grasp how to use these mechanics to their best efficiency in a high speed 3D environment like a WT match. other ppl (especially tubers) always make little micro-mistakes visibly due to lack of deeper comprehension, but not you. it makes your gameplay surprisingly pleasant to watch lol compared to watching other tubers play. really only defyn could come close to being that tldr basically u do good work LOL
@ to be fair one of the reasons I started uploading is because I did feel like there was a gap for this in depth top tier content with proper play by play analysis. So I always enjoy seeing comments like yours cause it means I'm not wasting my time haha Side note if you like youtubers who have a proper grasp of game mechanics go check out bad karma 👍
It is rare to see such clarity and ease of explaining all technical stuff, started watching with RWR guide and how to dodge Fox 3 missiles! Love your videos and this kind of format. Please continue making them because your channel is a treasure and I am sure you will grow, fast!! Also the use of sensor view is a very nice touch!
Hey man good video, ive been a secret admirier of your channel for a while and I wanted to say sometimes at night i hear your voice in my dreams telling me how to notch, and you wont believe it but, every time i manage to notch the missile and thats all because of your videos!! Man ive been trying so hard to notch in my dreams and i finally managed to do it. Now all i need to do is download warthunder and actually figure out how to notch for real! Up up and awayyy!!!!
The r73 got buffed recently where it doesn't spin out at all mostly you can literally fire it behind you and it will do a 180 to try to hit the target and most the time it won't spit out
Top tier made me realize how trivial the RWR makes defending fox3s (at least at range). It's gotten to the point that I'm sweating nervously if i see M29 on my radar. I die the most to ETs and ERs lately
The two extra R-27s certainly sound nice. I've been playing the J-11, and I keep getting too hungry for the ER kill to leave myself room to escape the retaliatory ARH. I imagine having two more would help me be more willing to ditch my lock and survive the initial engagement.
Dude you read my mind, i just got the j11 for china, not my first time using the r27er at all, but i was looking for a video for a 13.0 flanker platform and boom you upload
@ im very practiced at notching and against upteirs specifically, i played the 29g for 6 momths before deciding to play the ice, as the mig29 was one of my favourites so scuffed rwr doesnt really matter to me although digital would be nice 😭😭
@@gonrico ERs are semi active radar missiles not fox-3s. However they have datalink where other semi actives do not. This is why you can relock them having lost the lock after firing
Honestly do not forget that 27ETs can 180 without spinning out once. R73s should be slung like that barely below it's maximum lock angle. I learned this in Sim of all places and it makes F15 pilots seethe🥰
My personal favorite is the JAS 39A but I remember having a lot of fun in the SU27 with the ER back before Fox-3 was introduced (havent played it since)
I can see that, but at the same time there aren't many fox-3 airframes in a 12-13 down tier. You can climb and just completely outrange almost anyone who comes for you, then snipe people in the furball below with almost no danger to yourself
@MiGanFox3 I really like the super close and aggressive pathing that you can take with the gripen at that BR. Its a bit unlucky that the radar missile is so bad, but the combination of the 9M, the ridiculous FM and infinite CM is just fun
thanks for the video ive really been wanting to make this my main plane while I finish out top tier for russia, but been super hesitant because its lack of air to ground capability's
Can't make any promises, maybe if we get some decompression. At the moment I avoid playing stuff I don't find fun to avoid burn out, F-15A is one of those at the moment
So on the flipside in the 1v1 what's the counterplay vs. ER's and the re-lock meta that you do have available to you in the flanker platforms? I hear some people on discord just spout off about how "ER's are undodgeable" and "ER's are better than AMRAAMs because i can just notch amraams" interesting to hear it maybe from a guide perspective how you should try to counter the better-of-the-bunch SARH's
Notch > chaff > change altitude is still going to work. But you really have to commit to it because if you leave the notch the flanker pilot can just relock you and missile picks up guidance again. Ideally you're getting a missile out on them to force them defensive Obviously they can do the defend > relock strategy. However it's worth noting this quite niche in air rb to pull off, I pretty much only had the clips for that I put in the video. Once again though you want to try and keep them under pressure (don't allow them the chance to recommit and relock basically). Also whilst they're defending make sure to change course aggressively, the ER is on IOG so you want to move as far away from it as you can. That way chances are if they do relock the missile isn't able to turn in to/reach you anymore
hi buddy, i´ve been trying to play with the radar a lot more, but i can only move it horizontally, dont know if its becasue im not asigning the correct controls or what else could it be, could you do a video of your controls? tysm
You need to untick 'constant elevation of radar antenna' in your options to allow manual movement on the vertical axis. There's a bit of an explainer to this in my F-15E video about 10 minutes 20s in (can also check the chapters) ua-cam.com/video/ThrAw0HRcQ8/v-deo.html
Nah not possible yet no. With the maximum rate of squad rp it'd take about 3 months to get it for free. So anyone flying it right now has GEd it or is a CC
haha, well it can carry up to 8 of them so really the 33 is the ER in plane form 🤣 Made sense to make that the main topic when 80% of your kills probably are going to be the ER 👍
I'm not sure where you'd put either of them other than 13.0 to be honest. The age old compression situation is the issue as always. They both already outclass the 12.0s they see by a mile, but any higher and they would be permanently stuck against a majority of fox-3 aircraft
R-27ER is the easiest SARH missile to use... it doesn't need a guide on how to use them when the only thing you need to get kills with them is a pulse and hands.
True I guess, but your comment isn't giving full acknowledgement to all the quirks of the IOG+DL it has. If you only ever use it as a normal SARH and just lock > shoot > hold lock you're missing a lot of potential in the missile. Potential that you need to be aware of to compete against fire and forget fox-3s. The ER can do a lot of things that both fox-3s and other SARHs can't do
@MiGanFox3 And even if you don't look into all the other funny Russian stuff that Russia claims it can totally do and gaijin has no reason to fact check because their mother russia would never lie, the ER is still a wildly easy missile.
jesus christ. this might be the single best war thunder video ever. your knowledge is unmatched. This is literally a masterclass. You are the best wt youtuber. oh my gaawwd
haha, feel like you might be exaggerating but I'll take it 😆
@MiGanFox3 no joke, of all the ones i watch, u display a more comprehensive understanding of how missile/radar mechanics work than any other youtuber. they might know the stats and ingame code better, but you actually seem to properly grasp how to use these mechanics to their best efficiency in a high speed 3D environment like a WT match. other ppl (especially tubers) always make little micro-mistakes visibly due to lack of deeper comprehension, but not you. it makes your gameplay surprisingly pleasant to watch lol compared to watching other tubers play. really only defyn could come close to being that
tldr basically u do good work LOL
@ to be fair one of the reasons I started uploading is because I did feel like there was a gap for this in depth top tier content with proper play by play analysis. So I always enjoy seeing comments like yours cause it means I'm not wasting my time haha
Side note if you like youtubers who have a proper grasp of game mechanics go check out bad karma 👍
@MiGanFox3 exactly.
He's not gonna let you fuck, bro.
Those r27er relocks are diabolical
Cralos
No look fox-1 is insane
It is rare to see such clarity and ease of explaining all technical stuff, started watching with RWR guide and how to dodge Fox 3 missiles! Love your videos and this kind of format. Please continue making them because your channel is a treasure and I am sure you will grow, fast!! Also the use of sensor view is a very nice touch!
Glad you're finding it useful! 😄
One of the best air RB channels on UA-cam, right up there with Bad Karma. I appreciate your explanations and recaps with sensor mode.
Thanks mate, I too am a big fan of Karma 🙏
Hey man good video, ive been a secret admirier of your channel for a while and I wanted to say sometimes at night i hear your voice in my dreams telling me how to notch, and you wont believe it but, every time i manage to notch the missile and thats all because of your videos!! Man ive been trying so hard to notch in my dreams and i finally managed to do it. Now all i need to do is download warthunder and actually figure out how to notch for real! Up up and awayyy!!!!
Go to bed Daniel you're clearly drunk
The r73 got buffed recently where it doesn't spin out at all mostly you can literally fire it behind you and it will do a 180 to try to hit the target and most the time it won't spit out
That wasn't true, on the dev server it could happen but that wad because there was no server stress
Top tier made me realize how trivial the RWR makes defending fox3s (at least at range). It's gotten to the point that I'm sweating nervously if i see M29 on my radar. I die the most to ETs and ERs lately
The ER/T is the permanent meta 🤣
Idk if it's meant to be like this but with the su33 for sole reason u can guide multiple ers
The two extra R-27s certainly sound nice. I've been playing the J-11, and I keep getting too hungry for the ER kill to leave myself room to escape the retaliatory ARH. I imagine having two more would help me be more willing to ditch my lock and survive the initial engagement.
Yeah it's important to give up the lock if you need to, easy to get taken out trying to hold the lock when you don't have the time
thank you for making these! I was having an absolutely terrible time playing top tier until I found your channel
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Dude you read my mind, i just got the j11 for china, not my first time using the r27er at all, but i was looking for a video for a 13.0 flanker platform and boom you upload
Just be extra careful with your notching using the scuffed RWR 👍
@ im very practiced at notching and against upteirs specifically, i played the 29g for 6 momths before deciding to play the ice, as the mig29 was one of my favourites so scuffed rwr doesnt really matter to me although digital would be nice 😭😭
@ Yeah that's fair, once you're comfortable notching the old flanker RWR is just about good enough imo
this video is so awesome. Talking through decisions is helpful and asnwered a lot of stuff for me like are er's fox 3s?
@@gonrico ERs are semi active radar missiles not fox-3s. However they have datalink where other semi actives do not. This is why you can relock them having lost the lock after firing
Honestly do not forget that 27ETs can 180 without spinning out once.
R73s should be slung like that barely below it's maximum lock angle.
I learned this in Sim of all places and it makes F15 pilots seethe🥰
My personal favorite is the JAS 39A but I remember having a lot of fun in the SU27 with the ER back before Fox-3 was introduced (havent played it since)
Propably like the JAS 39A a lot right now because it's one of the few 13.0 that can easily deal with Fox-3 because of its BOL pods
16:35 I dig the note🎵
"Insane how a missile can carry a plane so much" oof 🙏🏽💯
Honestly, IOG guidance is really funny
R27s are absolutely so broken it’s insane.
Bros making the easy kills more self aware
What an art you're pulling with the ER. Sparrow would just go dumb if you're playing it like that
Yup, the ER having datalink makes it possible to do some unique stuff that other SARHs or even fox-3s can't do in some cases
This plane honestly is so funny, it's the Rambo plane
In an actual 13.0 match, i would probably be sitting in a gripen. But against 13.7 or 14.0 i would definitely be in the su33
I can see that, but at the same time there aren't many fox-3 airframes in a 12-13 down tier. You can climb and just completely outrange almost anyone who comes for you, then snipe people in the furball below with almost no danger to yourself
@MiGanFox3 I really like the super close and aggressive pathing that you can take with the gripen at that BR. Its a bit unlucky that the radar missile is so bad, but the combination of the 9M, the ridiculous FM and infinite CM is just fun
thanks for the video ive really been wanting to make this my main plane while I finish out top tier for russia, but been super hesitant because its lack of air to ground capability's
Air to ground is beyond my area of expertise I'm afraid. You'll want to be looking into the Su-34 for that
Any chance you could also do an F-15A video in the new META?
Can't make any promises, maybe if we get some decompression. At the moment I avoid playing stuff I don't find fun to avoid burn out, F-15A is one of those at the moment
Beautiful
BTW thx for recommending bad karma he's insane lol
So on the flipside in the 1v1 what's the counterplay vs. ER's and the re-lock meta that you do have available to you in the flanker platforms? I hear some people on discord just spout off about how "ER's are undodgeable" and "ER's are better than AMRAAMs because i can just notch amraams"
interesting to hear it maybe from a guide perspective how you should try to counter the better-of-the-bunch SARH's
Notch > chaff > change altitude is still going to work. But you really have to commit to it because if you leave the notch the flanker pilot can just relock you and missile picks up guidance again. Ideally you're getting a missile out on them to force them defensive
Obviously they can do the defend > relock strategy. However it's worth noting this quite niche in air rb to pull off, I pretty much only had the clips for that I put in the video. Once again though you want to try and keep them under pressure (don't allow them the chance to recommit and relock basically). Also whilst they're defending make sure to change course aggressively, the ER is on IOG so you want to move as far away from it as you can. That way chances are if they do relock the missile isn't able to turn in to/reach you anymore
The hard ER
hi buddy, i´ve been trying to play with the radar a lot more, but i can only move it horizontally, dont know if its becasue im not asigning the correct controls or what else could it be, could you do a video of your controls? tysm
You need to untick 'constant elevation of radar antenna' in your options to allow manual movement on the vertical axis. There's a bit of an explainer to this in my F-15E video about 10 minutes 20s in (can also check the chapters) ua-cam.com/video/ThrAw0HRcQ8/v-deo.html
@MiGanFox3 absolute leyend!! that was it 😁
How do you know it's safe to get out of Multipath height?
@@gonrico well easiest way to know is when your RWR shuts up
Is it even possible to have gotten it through squadron rp yet. I'd bet 99% of Su-33 owners didn't grind it out.
Nah not possible yet no. With the maximum rate of squad rp it'd take about 3 months to get it for free. So anyone flying it right now has GEd it or is a CC
0:30 i agree about the su-34 but the buccaneer might be close
My vote still goes to the 34... maybe I should do a tier list...
"can you do a vid on f14iraf its really the strongest 12.7 for bvr and in 13.7 too "
I might do soon
we definitly need a br decomp 13.0 wuld be amazing without top tier
Agreed, around that 12-13 range there's a lot of good planes that suffer due to the fox-3 meta
U should also play the mirage 4000 at this br wich is also fun
Maybe, not a huge fan of it's kit for competing with fox-3s
Is this a masterclass with the Su-33 or just a video about how damn good the R27ER really is. The R27ER really is the equalizer... most of the time :)
haha, well it can carry up to 8 of them so really the 33 is the ER in plane form 🤣 Made sense to make that the main topic when 80% of your kills probably are going to be the ER 👍
@MiGanFox3 for sure for sure, really good point honestly. Love the missile.
The R-27R/ER are so much better than the AIM-7 it's not even funny.
Yep, ER is a lot more flexible. Even without the flexibility it's just outright better regardless
Why tf is su 27 and this thing sits at the same br? Btw, insane gameplay
I'm not sure where you'd put either of them other than 13.0 to be honest. The age old compression situation is the issue as always. They both already outclass the 12.0s they see by a mile, but any higher and they would be permanently stuck against a majority of fox-3 aircraft
@MiGanFox3 yeah there should be a new br cuz su 27 and su 33 are definitely not same, su 33 being better in almost every way
@ Su-27 has more countermeasures, better sustained turning performance and better acceleration
R-27ER is the easiest SARH missile to use... it doesn't need a guide on how to use them when the only thing you need to get kills with them is a pulse and hands.
True I guess, but your comment isn't giving full acknowledgement to all the quirks of the IOG+DL it has. If you only ever use it as a normal SARH and just lock > shoot > hold lock you're missing a lot of potential in the missile. Potential that you need to be aware of to compete against fire and forget fox-3s. The ER can do a lot of things that both fox-3s and other SARHs can't do
@MiGanFox3 And even if you don't look into all the other funny Russian stuff that Russia claims it can totally do and gaijin has no reason to fact check because their mother russia would never lie, the ER is still a wildly easy missile.
Do tonks
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i love SU33 over the SU27 honestly
Gonna play the 27 and see how I feel, I really like having a good RWR on the 33
@MiGanFox3 the su27 will be a better dogfighter but thats not really as important at this br range
1st Haha(now I leave bcs I don't watch CCs as u know)
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Absolutely diabolical.
Russian jets are just top