Macro Photography Walk with Godox V350 and Laowa 25mm
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- PLEASE NOTE THAT I PROBABLY HAD A "BAD UNIT" OF THIS FLASH IN THIS VIDEO. LATER I BOUGHT ANOTHER V350 AND IT PERFORMED WAY, WAY BETTER - MORE INFO HERE: • 4 Compact Macro Photog...
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PLEASE NOTE THAT I PROBABLY HAD A "BAD UNIT" OF THIS FLASH IN THIS VIDEO. LATER I BOUGHT ANOTHER V350 AND IT PERFORMED WAY, WAY BETTER - MORE INFO HERE: ua-cam.com/video/s15aNl9qZVQ/v-deo.html
I use the godox V860 II as a macro flash, and this one never misses a flash, the recycle time is also super fast.
But it is super bulky.
I’m here for the weevils. Who knew weevils would take such good portraits.😀
Weevils are awesome! Too bad I only seem to find them during a pretty short window of time in the early summer :(
@@MicaelWidell There is a small weevil that likes to live on goldenrod. If you are not allergic to goldenrod, be sure to check it for hidden bugs. Goldenrod is a bug castle.🏰
@@botanicaltreasures2408 yes! I have some of that nearby that will bloom soon. I always find so many bugs on them!
@@MicaelWidell A high rise habitat!
Thanks to your previous video on the meike mk 320 it's the flash I bought for my macro photography and I like it a lot! The batteries last a long time. I use it in manual mode at 1/32 power and it works great. Love your videos!
Thank you for saving me money and doing your tutorials!
Really appreciate the videos so much better than most who seem to lie about the experience. Hate those saying they use 1/32 power at iso 100 1/200s and the flash is miles away from the subject but the subject is super bright. Wish they would be honest and say images highly edited in post.
You could raise the ISO a few stops without consequence. 400 should allow a lower flash power and faster recycle time.
This past winter when I began macro photography I bought the MK320 (Canon camera) at your suggestion and I have been very happy with it. And, "I think I photographed his butt by mistake..." made my day!
I bought the laowa 100 mm together with the meiki 320 flash and ofcourse the dorr diffuser.They are great.Thanks a lot for your advice!!
Great video Micael 🙂👍
I like these ones where we can follow you out in the forest and get good examples of what to find, thanks! 🙏
I saw one of your videos that you had this godox and I was waiting for your review, but I just went for the godox v860 a couple of months ago, watching your video I'm glad that I did.
I have three of these flashes, and use eneloop pro batteries. I don’t have any trouble with missed firings.
Very enjoyable video. You got a lot of great shots. My MK 320 misses often on my Canon R6 but it's my fault. I often leave the drive mode at 12 fps which is just silly. Next time I will slow my drive mode down significantly and see how it goes. Thanks again for an entertaining video. Oh, I think I like the DJI Pocket better but both are good.
Haha yeah not sure how much I will use the Gopro Max. Slightly too low resolution and a bit more painful to edit. But fun to try.
I'm glad I buy MK320 due to your reco, I'll go outside for macro tomorrow for the first time, really early :)
Thanks for making this video. I'm getting very similar results with my Godox TT350. Just ordered the MK320... the modeling light will be a nice addition.
Watching the side on view of you taking a picture less than a third of the light from the flash is actually hitting your diffuser, and when you use the Mieke flash it hits right in the middle of the diffuser. I think if the v350 was hitting the middle it wouldn’t miss any flashes any more because at the moment it is bouncing the light around the woods before it hits your subject. Love the channel I have learned a lot from you look forward to more great episodes. Cheers
As I said in the video I tried it at all strengths and it still missed shots so your argument does not hold.
I'm amazed at how clear your macro photos come out with the camera being hand-held vs using a tripod. My camera feels so heavy, and I just can't keep still while trying to photograph insects that are moving away from me. I love your videos! I think I've finally realized that I need to get a diffuser. I do have a flash but I feel like I don't know what to do with the settings, so I rely on natural light. Unfortunately, if the light is not good outside, I just don't get to take photos.
Make sure to watch my video about macro photography settings, and get a diffuser and a flash - your results will be similar to mine :)
@@MicaelWidell I hope to one day be as good as you! Or at least close to it. I'll watch the video for sure. :) Thanks Michael.
I went out with the same flash last weekend - with the same results and conclusions! I’m going to sell it :-(
Great video my friend, a missing flash is not good at all, would be a nightmare for focus stacking.
Muy buen vdeo gracias por compartir, Usted le saca mucho provecho a ese lente, lo tengo para nikon y no he podido hacer buenas macros con el
I had 2 V860ii's for my Sony and both would regularly misfire in manual, but almost never in TTL, so I ended up leaving it in TTL, which did get annoying as some insects would fly off when it pre flashed, but on my M43 bodies, the V350 and TT685 work great in manual, although the 350 is a little weak like you mentioned, and this is while using an enclosed Cygnustech diffuser.
The problem happens when you have e-Front Curtain Shutter on, turn it off and it fixed the misfires. I decided to get the Nikon version and it works perfecly with e-Front Curtain on . I only use the flash in manual and never need TTL for my macro work so no need for the Sony version ;) you can see my macro work @snaphappy.foto almost all my shots are usning the Godox TT350n and now the Godox V350n on my Sony A6400 and Panasonic G9
@@snaphappyian that makes sense then, as the A7c doesn't have a mechanical front curtain option, but in saying that, I never had this problem if I used E front on on the EM1 mkii, OM-1 or G9 with the V350 or TT685🤷
I use Godox TT350 and yes it recharges kinda slowly unfortunately, but it was cheap and works if the pace is somewhat slow. I've also missed some great shots due to blackness, have since then learned to shoot more slowly (which is not optimal in macro as you're mentioning). Works great for indoor portraits doing bouncing.
Maybe try the GP photo flash batteries. They made a big difference for me.
I use the Good TT350 flash, and I have never had a black frame, neither mounted or via the remote. I use Duracell non rechargeable, maybe they are better and that helps, but of course not as "green" and more expensive.
Great shots! I enjoyed the new angles and views of the Go Pro cam, but I still like the look of the video from the portable sony for its more first person feel. Both are engaging.
I agree. The 360 becomes a bit “too much”. But fun to try. Also, the past few videos I have used the DJI Pocket 2, which is my new favorite compact video camera.
Great video. Thanks!
I have the TT350.
How do you like it? Does it miss shots or no?
Do you like it? I just got a TT350 (Sony) for macro work. Haven't used it yet, but curious to know how you like it?
With Godox you have to make sure you dont have it on M mode. That is master and the flash does not change power. Make sure its either S mode or nothing is showing. I have the TT600 and had same issue until I discovered that it should not be set on M mode (Bottom symbol near the wireless). For the misses it need to recharge. Have the sound on so you know when its charged for the next shot.
Hi! The v350 doesn't even seem to have M mode. It has S1 S2 or nothing. I tried all three - still misfired on all these modes :(
@@MicaelWidell First of all thanks for all the videos you post. You do enspire me to shoot Macro. I also ended up buying the Laowa 100mm x2 even though I have the Sony 90mm G master. They are both sharp. Now for the Godox....
It looks like the V350 has the M mode (The small M at the bottom ) You can watch this video of how it works ua-cam.com/video/DYRd82Ro0DU/v-deo.html. I do have the TT600 and it does misfire sometimes but when its on wireless mode. When on hotshoe make sure you press it all the way as the Sony contacts are bit sensitive on Godox. Also make sure the battery is fully charged and the sound is turned on so you know when you are ready for next shoot. When you take shoots after each other it may take some time to recharge and cool the lamp. As I said Godox are a bit more sensitive. I would give it a second try. :)
i have a tt350 and use it mostly in macro. it feels a stop weaker than your meike. i have bought it because it's cheap and light and worked with my godox trigger.
i don't have dark frames but never used the burst mode. i had dark frames but that was when i didn't pushed it completely inside the socket.
i am shooting between iso 200 and 400 with the laowa 85mm to have a smaller flash setting.
that said i am not having enough time during the sleeps of my newborn to drain the batteries ;).
I started with the tt350s due to the size and locally available and it's the same situation with the missed flashes.
I have the TT350 and I can comfortably shoot at 1/16 most of the time with no need to increase exposure in post. This is with a GX85 body which is bound to be less sensitive than a full frame sony camera. Maybe the V350 version is weaker? or maybe it's too tall for that body? The reason I specifically chose the TT350 instead of the Meike MK320 is the height, since I knew the meike would be too close to the lens and that could cast a shadow on the subject. I also use a custom made diffuser that captures all the light of the flash, that's probably another factor.
On the black frames issue, using eneloop batteries I have noticed that sometimes I get black frames when the batteries are not fully charged, but that's not usually the case in the first 20-30% of the battery charge, although I am aware that the meike outperforms the V/TT350 in the refresh rate area. One day I might buy the meike and compare it myself, but I'm actually waiting and hoping some manufacturer out there comes up with a new small form factor speedlight, not too many options out there for small cameras and that's disappointing.
Thank you
I bought the Canon version of this flash for my R6 and i agree it could be a bit more powerful but it has never missed a shot for me. Maybe you got a dud. The only thing i miss is my focus lol.
@micaelWidell -- you speak of how the ants were going crazy on that tree - a little tip you can try next time -- if you carry a small screwdriver and simply bang the handle of the screwdriver against the trunk of the tree the ants will stop in their tracks for a second or two... I assume they think there is a predator out there (woodpecker) and by stopping they may be able to evade the predator.
Micael, the angle of the flash seems to shoot 'over' your subject (check at 8:04) thereby missing the full strobe of the flash; maybe that explains the lack of light on your subject??
I bought a 3 pack of the diffusers that are like square socks that slip over the flash and find them way nicer than the big diffuser you have. I bought one like yours but it was just way too bulky for me. The ones that slide over the flash seem to work better for me than that one.
Yes I have had the same experience with the slip over diffuser. Less bulky and easy to maneuver into different angles.
You are correct in saying the Godox doesn't work as well as the Meike in your macro diffusion setup. This is because your diffusion is a good match for the Meike and a very poor one for the Godox. The low forward facing Meike flash gets a lot of its energy in the centre of the Doerr diffusor, the tall slender Godox gets very little of its energy in the diffusor, at a shallow angle. So you need a higher setting, which reduces the recycling speed. Also, you seem to use the Godox in its wide angle (14mm) setting, which reduces the amount of energy hitting the diffusor even more. The Godox is automatically set to 14mm when you extend the built-in diffusor panel. So for people using a different diffusion setup to yours, the Godox may well be a good option.
If it wasn’t clear enough in the video, the Godox missed 25% of shots even on low power (1/16)
@@MicaelWidell This is odd. I just tried this with my V350 (normally I use a V860 II) and I get dozens of properly illuminated images at 1/16, no drops whatsoever. Both at 1/60th second and with hss at faster speeds. So either there is a difference in the modes we use our flashes in or there is a hardware (battery?) problem with yours.
@@dbphoto1310 I’m not sure what to think. I could have gotten a bad unit, but several others in the comments also write that their Godox flash misses shots. I certainly am surprised that it performs this bad. Could also be how fast you demand your flash to recharge, perhaps you weren’t pushing your unit as hard as I did.
@@MicaelWidell What would you consider a good test for pushing the flash? I would think a continuous series of 30 photos at 1/16th at either 1/60 or with hss at 1/200 constitutes a decent push. I did that, no drops here.
@@dbphoto1310 Ok that's interesting, as I would get lots of missed frames if I did that. And my flash is brand new, only used on 2-3 occasions. Anyway, I won't have interest to dig deeper into this, as I already have another flash that works flawlessly with the right batteries.
Do you think that the V860iii would be worth it over the V350? I probably will mostly keep it on lens which is why i qould want the v350 but the price difference is small and wouldnt want to regret not getting the additional power and features in the future. Weight and portability vs features.
Thoughts in the video. The 360 cam is awesome sometimes. I hope you never do as full video with it again though.
Yes, it will miss frames sometimes but only at 1/8th or higher or 1/16 if you do 20+ bursts and the flash can't fully recycle in time.
I would have liked to see what the meike can do in the video as well. Why compare 2 things but only show the 1?
Personally, I have had amazing results with this flash. Using a proper diffuser I find I rarely have to shoot higher than 1/16th with proper settings. This flash can continuously fire at 1/32nd as well for super deep stacks (which isn't something you compared, it would have been nice to see how long each can burst for at different flash powers). Only when I start shooting at 4x is when I need to go higher in power. I have a friend who used a poorly designed diffuser and comparted to a proper one, he was losing a stop of light or more when shooting. Controlling the light is so important in macro and is probably even more important than the flash itself.
I agree the 360 should be used sparingly going forward :) A bit too much to film only with it.
The reason I didn't test it side by side with the Meike is I have used the Meike in pretty much 90% of the other videos on my channel, so I am very familiar with it. And I would have tested the V350 more in depth, if it didn't perform so badly, missing 20% or so of shots even at 1/16 even at pretty slow shooting rates. I didn't see the point of doing more tests with it, when it performs so much worse than the much cheaper Meike MK320. Maybe I got a bad copy of the v350?
@@MicaelWidell You definitely could have a bad copy. I have had a bad experience with the TT350 version (before I upgraded) where it would stop shooting because of over heating even if I had just taken like 10 shots. The quality control for these flashes might not be as great.
It could also be that the flash just doesn't work the way YOU need it to. There isn't one way to do things so it might not fit yours even if it fits mine. Lenses are always in this scenario.
Because the MK350 is not as tall. Have you noticed it doesn’t light up as well when using 105mm lens?
Your choice of diffuser wastes a lot of light. Flashes recycle faster when they don't use the entire charge so a diffuser with a top and reflective surface might allow shooting using a more efficient. I use an old Canon flash and have no experience with either brand you mentioned. Is the difference possibly what the flash does with the excess charge not used at lower settings? Your comparison is only valid if you set each unit to the settings that work for each. The Meike flash is shorter and may just be at a better angle.
Hi there Micael. Which shutter type were you using? You have to use always MECHANICAL with these flashes, electronic or electronic 1st curtain create much misfires. Give it a try :)
Hi! I tried it now, and unfortunately didn't make much of a difference for me :(
@@MicaelWidell oh damnit! 🙈🤣 may it be that you shoot some little bursts and flash was not recycled so you get dark then? 😊
I found out THIS yesterday.. And I agree! I have set e-front curtain to off and now my v860ii fires EVERY TIME! I wish I knew this way earlier.... It will be so much easier to focus stack now!
Intressant hur din starkare blixt som använder laddbara 1.2 volt batterier presterar bättre än blixten med inbyggd litium batteri som kan drivas på högre volt!
Ha en trevlig helg!
Curious to know, how TT350 works? Is it better than the V350??
I'm a little confused to be honest. I could swear I heard you say in a previous video that this flash is way superiour to the mk320. Well anyways thanks for savng me the hassle to return the V350. I already have a MK320 and I was thinking about upgrading to the godox... well some money saved I guess^^
Hmm. If I said so it was because I believed it would be. But now I can conclude that a Meike mk320 with good batteries, kicks the V350's ass :)
I use this flash and ive been very happy with its performance. I do lots of automatic bracketing with my Olympus and it never misses a frame! what power is your flash on?
I tried all powers between 1/16 and 1/4 on this walk. Strange that people seem to get so different results.
Sir, why don't you use continuous ring light for macro photography?
Too weak, too little diffusion. Photos will look bad and grainy.
@@MicaelWidell How would be the result if I use the continuous LED light of Nikon SB500 on my Z6ii+105mm ? If I buy SB500, I can use both the flash and continuous LED light. Need your opinion please. In India, there is no service center for Meike to upgrade the firmware of MK320N for use on the Z Nikon camera.
Do you use a zv-1 for your UA-cam videos? That is impressive!!!
In the last 6 months I’ve been using the zv1 only for indoor videos in my studio. And I use the DJI pocket 2 for outdoor videos.
Hello! I am not completely sure but it is possible that if you are shooting with e-Front Curtain Shutter you can experience some flash inconsistencies. You need to shoot with a fully mechanical shutter to avoid that issue. I am not sure if this is the case for every kind of camera flash or just certain brands.
I tried this and it did not make a difference in this case :(
Hi Micael I have been following you for a little while now and finding your UA-cam very helpful. I wondered what you think of a Ring Flash for Macro. I currently have a K&F KF 150 and it seems OK.
Would love to know what you think. How can I send you one of my results perhaps.
I would not recommend a ring flash. In my opinion it gives ugly looking photos and it is hard to diffuse. Check my video on the Godox MF12.
In the video you can see that the built-in diffuser plate has been pulled out. When you pull it out, the flash zoom automatically sets to 12mm. This makes the light less strong. Could it be that that was the problem with the weak flash? And I dont have black frames. I can do Lo-burstmode up to 1/8.
Actually I found out later I just had a faulty unit. I bought another one and there was no problems with it. It is now my favorite flash.
@@MicaelWidell Thanks for the reply. I didn't see your other videos until after I wrote this.
Hello. Did you try to press the MODE button on the godox flash and select the MODE function? I don't lose any pictures in this setting. I have a TT version. Be healthy and have many beautiful shots
Hi! Yes somebody else suggestiv this and I tried it, but it made no difference. I think it is certainly possible that the tt version performs better with good batteries.
@@MicaelWidell Hello. Repair. My big mistake. I forgot to write the most important thing, press MODE and select the MULTI function.. Be healthy.
Muy buena la toma del gorgojo con que grado de magnificacion o aumento la hizo, gracias
2.5x magnification - all photos in this video was shot with 2.5x :)
It seems that there is no Meike 320 for a Canon 90D. Are you aware of one? If not, is there anything better than the Godox?
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=meike+mk-320+canon&_sacat=0
@@MicaelWidell Meantime I had sent an email to the company. They said it is not compatible with the Canon 90D. But they were from the marketing department. 😁
Do you know of anyone who has actually used it with the 90D.
man I'm experiencing flash not firing on godox v350 + sony a6700. Hard to do it on continuous shots because a lot of shots are black.
I had the same issue with my first v350 on Sony. What power do you shoot at? I had misfirings of around 20% of frames at 1/32 if I remember correctly.
@@MicaelWidell I was poking at 1/8, 1/16. I don't go over 1/16. Tried on manual and TTL but no luck. I sent it back to the store and they will process the replacement on Monday.
Fantastic!!
Please... I have a Canon SL3 (250D) and I have many dificulties finding a cheap macro lens like Laowa on Aliexpress. Do you recommend some market place or any solution for DSLR ( EF, EF-S) users like me?
Or could you make a vídeo using DSLR and cheap macro lens....?
If you want a cheap but decent macro lens for a dslr I would recommend the Meike 85mm macro lens. I have a review of it.
@@MicaelWidell yes I watched it. A great review! And what about a second sugestion? A bit more expensive macro lens for EF-S mount? (Not mirrorless... unfortunately).
@@andersonaarp in that case get the Laowa 60mm
@@MicaelWidell perfect. Thats my goal. You aways say its your prefered lens, so its The one! Haha.
IS there a way to comunicate with the seller on Laowa during the purchase?
And please, whats your cupom code for discount?
@@andersonaarp I would recommend to order it directly from bit.ly/mwlaowa60 they ship for free to most countries with Fedex, so you will have it in a few days. Sorry I don't have a discount code. If you need to communicate with them just e-mail them :)
Great... I just bought one for my Nikon Z5 and Laowa 100.
Supposedly on Nikon Z the Meike misses shots.
Is the flash not faulty or is there another problem?
The Godox guide number is higher it should be stronger.
Yeah I'm not sure what the problem is. I have to say I am a bit surprised by the performance of this flash.
@@MicaelWidell
If you think and help you I will try mine. Although I do not have such a diffuser.
I'm afraid the laowa 100 with Nikon mount is too long and the flash is too far back. Or not?
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That's so odd you are having such bad experiences with that. Maybe it isn't syncing with the Sony right. Which I'd think Godox should have that down with communication on a Sony. My TT350 syncs with Olympus so that it doesn't allow blackout. I will see it in my EVF of it isn't ready to fire. Also I can shoot an 8 frame focus stack at 1/32 within a second. I was looking to understand the V model because of its more powerful battery.
I dont get it. I bought the Meike MK-320 TWICE. The first one just died after one week and the second one got stuck at 1/1 full power no matter what I tried. I wish I could find one reliable unit as you did.. :/ I also own a godox V860 and it misses a lot like yours. The only truly reliable flash I own is the sony F32M but it cost almost the triple..
Wow that sucks :( Yeah MEIKE is maybe not known for being the highest quality brand out there, but to have these problems twice sounds awful. What camera are you using it on?
@@MicaelWidell Hi Micael! The same one as you. Sony A7III and A6600.
And wouldn't it make sense to use a polarizing filter?
Not sure what you think a polarizing filter would do? It would not make a difference unless you cross-polarize with the flash.
Polarizers do nothing in macro.
@@MicaelWidell You sometimes still get a little reflection even with the diffusor. Ahaa, need to try this
Why do you think that there is no difference between Laowa 100mm 2.8 with aperture control and the normal one without aperture control for full frame? In dark conditions, you can't really brighten up the viewfinder that much, can you?
Do I think there is no difference? Where have I said that? It makes a difference on a DSLR. On mirrorless cameras however, it doesn't matter, because you can change a setting to get brighter viewfinder even at small apertures.
@@MicaelWidell Sorry, meant mirrorless of course. Yeah, why does it not make a difference with mirrorless? I doubt that you can brighten the EVF that much with let's say aperture 8 when it's dark outside. Or do I miss something?
@@Vollpflock yes see my macro settings video. There is a setting to always make the viewfinder bright no matter what aperture. If you are shooting macro at when it is dark outside, even electronic aperture will not save you though
@@MicaelWidell Yeah, I know how to make it brighter. However, you have still aperture 8 in dark light (not completely dark, early evening or morning). Wouldn't it make more sense to use 2.8? Had this issue before
@@MicaelWidell It was especially hard to see what's sharp, because there was such high iso
I was not impressed by the 360 cam setup.