Counterpoint: Always make Marius the leader if you are against a team with Seek and Destroy, that way he can hang back and prevent Headhunter while you get full use out of your captain.
Now that the precedent is set I really hope GW bothers to release bespoke rules for the Plague Marine Heroes. The operatives are more than varied enough and Death Guard still remains one of the most popular Kill Teams even as a Compendium team. On the Justian team itself, while definitely more pricy than the go to, their operative selection actually allows for building a decent Intercession team together with the 9th edition monopose starter set marines. Those are pretty cheap to get still.
Push fit sold this box for me. I wish more stuff came push fit. Dont get me wrong it's neat to do all the gluing and all, but it gets tedious. Sometimes I just wanna put stuff together and play .
i'm proxying mine from other space marines blood angels heroes blister boxes (2022 and 20232) plus an eliminator, will be wyswyg anyway in terms of weapons, so should be fine
Should be fun to play then. I can proxy most with my Deathwatch Primaris Vets, only need to build the Captain. Good to hear about the PDF, I missed that somehow.
As a new player, I very quickly got the sense that Games Workshop doesn't work like a normal business would and I don't quite yet understand why they make a lot of the decisions they make.
I think we'll get equipment and narrative rules (there's narrative designations on the cards) with the pdf, since out of the box they don't have archetypes
Like it. Good enough for casual play... maybe too good? Want to play them against Death Guard and various compendium marines teams to see just how good.
Justin seems like a lot of fun but there's a lot of information still missing. (Tac Ops?, Equipment?, etc). Hopefully the web article will fill in all the blanks.
I suppose picking up two boxes to play mirror matches might be good for learning the game. Not sure if it is worth getting if one already has an intercession team though.
Could you please rank those 5 novitiates from best to worst? Dialogus, Duelist, Reliquarius, Preceptor, Militant sword . I have place for 2 - but somehow I'm not convinced about any of the 5 mentioned to be worthy, so need to know what the ranking would be.
I will argue with Justian being weakest team when Squats exist. Moreover Justian is much more survivable than Intercession thus they will have it easier in matchups like Kasrkin or Pathfinders who demolished Intercession. If they get same archetypes (or even same tac ops as well) as Intercession they will probably be on the same power level as Intercession, but with other counter-matchups and weaknesses.
@@CanYouRollaCrit It depends on the gun. Durable does nothing against Plasma. While 4++ with all the re-rolls you want, 18 wounds and Smoke grenade actually do.
@@CanYouRollaCrit Crumbles in melee is a big word since he has re-rolls for days. Anyway, as I mentioned before, they are somewhat better, somewhat worse. Good team for newcomers, but still harder than Compendium.
Relying only on rerolls goes only so far, the Strike Force's biggest weakness is melee and dedicated melee teams and operatlives will shred them Intercession are still better for new players, this team is a weird bridge between Compendium and Bespoke
![[Kill Team] Реакция на правила Strike Force Justian](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0MxksMsMlgA/mqdefault.jpg)
Counterpoint: Always make Marius the leader if you are against a team with Seek and Destroy, that way he can hang back and prevent Headhunter while you get full use out of your captain.
Oooh true, that's a great point!
I thought that when you take on a captain, he automatically becomes a leader instead of a sergeant, since he is senior in rank...
Now that the precedent is set I really hope GW bothers to release bespoke rules for the Plague Marine Heroes. The operatives are more than varied enough and Death Guard still remains one of the most popular Kill Teams even as a Compendium team.
On the Justian team itself, while definitely more pricy than the go to, their operative selection actually allows for building a decent Intercession team together with the 9th edition monopose starter set marines. Those are pretty cheap to get still.
They could but it would require them to re-release the deathguard set
Oh nice, didn't think of that
all 5 people who own that would be pleased
Push fit sold this box for me. I wish more stuff came push fit. Dont get me wrong it's neat to do all the gluing and all, but it gets tedious. Sometimes I just wanna put stuff together and play .
The original reveal article for these mentioned they'd be released to specialized stores first, with a wider release later on.
Ah nice, that's great!
i'm proxying mine from other space marines blood angels heroes blister boxes (2022 and 20232) plus an eliminator, will be wyswyg anyway in terms of weapons, so should be fine
Should be fun to play then. I can proxy most with my Deathwatch Primaris Vets, only need to build the Captain. Good to hear about the PDF, I missed that somehow.
Ah nice! Yeah that's what GW said when they revealed them so hopefully it's still true 😅
Won't happen but it would be sweet if GW would release KT rules for the recent Plague Marine / Death Guard box.
That would be great!
As a new player, I very quickly got the sense that Games Workshop doesn't work like a normal business would and I don't quite yet understand why they make a lot of the decisions they make.
Welcome to the fold aha
"I don't quite yet understand why they make"
every fkukin time... 😅😅
I think everyone else can agree with me here. Old fan, still don't understand WTF they're doing.
I think we'll get equipment and narrative rules (there's narrative designations on the cards) with the pdf, since out of the box they don't have archetypes
Hopefully!
I'm just waiting for my Space Wolves themed Kill Team. I'm sure I'll be waiting a while/forever, but that's fine. I'll work on my others for now.
I like how varied the rhe roster feels for marines. It looks almost like a KT2018 team
Yup kinda a neat throwback
Yeah but way worse
It would be really fun painting these up as Deathwatch :)
Oooh that's a great idea
It was awesome seeing you at nova, too bad we didnt get a game in, maybe next time!
Same dude! Great chatting, hope we get a game when I'm next in America!
@@CanYouRollaCrit orrr I'll cross the pond.
Oooooh :OOOO
As always, thank you for your effort in putting this together.
Meta from Nova? Especially, how did Hearthkyn Salvagers go?
No worries, thanks for watching! Very Kommandos haha, they got mauled 😅
Poor Squats ☹️
Will you do doing a Nova meta video soon?
Thanks in advance
😊👍🏻🍺
Yup, this week!
Like it. Good enough for casual play... maybe too good? Want to play them against Death Guard and various compendium marines teams to see just how good.
They're like top of compendium. Maybe vs them just don't take Captain and Sergeant?
AMERICA!!! I will pick them up when they come out here.
The true GOATS
Justin seems like a lot of fun but there's a lot of information still missing. (Tac Ops?, Equipment?, etc). Hopefully the web article will fill in all the blanks.
Yup, all waiting for those full PDF rules haha
Recent warcom article confirms that this is coming to the UK, I'd assume next week as they've sent you a copy.
Hopefully!
I suppose picking up two boxes to play mirror matches might be good for learning the game. Not sure if it is worth getting if one already has an intercession team though.
Perhaps, yeah if you have Intercession you only need it if you wanna spicen things up haha
Could you please rank those 5 novitiates from best to worst? Dialogus, Duelist, Reliquarius, Preceptor, Militant sword . I have place for 2 - but somehow I'm not convinced about any of the 5 mentioned to be worthy, so need to know what the ranking would be.
SOoooo, since the force construction rules say "select any 6 models"... what if I have multiples of some models? Can I take them twice?
I like your thinking but noooo 🤣
Diffuse now 😩 I want your commentaty
You get it now 🤣
I think they’re produced out of country so there may be import issues?
All model production is done at Nottingham tho?
The models for the Space Marine board game were made in the USA. If you look at the sprues, the layout is different from other kits.
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"The models for the Space Marine board game were made in the USA."
At last!
I will argue with Justian being weakest team when Squats exist. Moreover Justian is much more survivable than Intercession thus they will have it easier in matchups like Kasrkin or Pathfinders who demolished Intercession. If they get same archetypes (or even same tac ops as well) as Intercession they will probably be on the same power level as Intercession, but with other counter-matchups and weaknesses.
Nah Votann ain't that bad
This team is only suedo durable. Without Chapter Tactics, Intercession are far more tankier
@@CanYouRollaCrit It depends on the gun. Durable does nothing against Plasma. While 4++ with all the re-rolls you want, 18 wounds and Smoke grenade actually do.
Intercession has other tools and Justian crumbles in melee, the Captain can be easily out-fought in combat
@@CanYouRollaCrit Crumbles in melee is a big word since he has re-rolls for days. Anyway, as I mentioned before, they are somewhat better, somewhat worse. Good team for newcomers, but still harder than Compendium.
Relying only on rerolls goes only so far, the Strike Force's biggest weakness is melee and dedicated melee teams and operatlives will shred them
Intercession are still better for new players, this team is a weird bridge between Compendium and Bespoke
Where can you order these in the US?
Any FLGS I think? Can't get it direct from GW
GW never made more rules for these guys, did they?
Well not for free publicly, yet
are they on 32 or 40mm bases?
Sniper, HI and Captain are on 40mm, rest are 32mm
Literally no idea how or where to buy these guys in UK other than eBay.
No where yet sadly for now outside of ebay
I think Acules = ACK-YOU-LEES, rather than ACK-EWLS
Possibly!
I think GW is gauging FOMO and special edition sales in other countries, I think it's rather shitty no matter the reason
I think they've already got a good idea on if FOMO is successful 😅
Can I only buy it in stores?
I think so for now?