Yeah alright, I'm blown away by how much I love this team. As a Vet Guard nerd, this is a brilliant bit of flavor change. Time to no life this team when I can get them.
Sounds like a fun and flavourful team! And I agree that it will take time to figure out the best way to play it. But that's part of the fun for me. And just wondering.... Will master crafted autopistol equipment in Interrogator not stack with Tome Skull buff making the pistol hit really hard? And perhaps mystic to help an extra shot go through?
Awesome video.. Was really curious about the proper build strategy for this team and this helped a lot. Since I have Octarius I'll be pairing Vet Guard with em. Hoping this box will sway one of my locals to run the narrative
@@CanYouRollaCrit And I have a friend who's willing to give it a go! .. My flgs was able to secure a copy so now it's build n paint time next week. Stoked
Why make the scions 4+ if they don’t have rerolls or elite points? They’re just useless kasrkin and arguably even more guardsmen at that point unless I’m missing something. They have a near negligible durability boost over vet guard and have the same comms as the Kasrkin. Very disappointed how they handled the ancillary support. The specialist seem pretty fun tho
Absolute Authority is probably most toxic play in the game unfortunately . Remember when people were upset that Arbites can take away their Scouting? Those good days :(
What team (not roster, just looking for a all around team to use for one-off matches) do you recommend then? Looks like some changes have been made so wanted to check if you had an updated opinion on what to bring. I would like either Kasrkin or Veteran Guardsmen, but which operatives would be good?
Very dissapointed by the scions man... I loved them with all my heart and they did them dirty... somehow even goats get more love Thanks for the vid btw!
It seems the scalpers are charging like $100+ for this kill team but luckily my 3D printer does it for $14 thanks to Redmaker for creating some excellent proxy models for me to play with. I think I'll combine them with some Vostroyans for veterans and see what happens.
The leader is weak, but it's really easy to score 2VP from investigate lead imo. You do the same kind of juggle as with Kasrkin's vital objective, while you are not really missing a vital operative on the battlefield. And he should survive unless you get completely overrun.
Can't wait to, even if we already know their leader is weak beyond weakness and he can give +1 attack to 4+ scions in range... I have a bad feeling about this🤣
Hey i just wanted to ask if you take kasrkins can you use your faction ability on trooper? becaue he has in datacard that he can spend 1 free elite point thanks for answer
@@dragonofdojima5604 Void armor never mentions any keyword, since it's inbuilt on their data cards. Elite points however is tied to the Kasrkin keyword :)
I kinda feel like this team lives and dies by the ancillary support options. Regardless of their rules the operatives themselves seem very weak and easy to remove. In my experience, teams with 5+ saves either have high wounds, an additional rule for keeping themselves alive like the Farstalker Kinband with Rogue, or at least above average combat capabilities. I suppose it'll come down to how they really get used, but I'd be worried about getting tabled playing them, especially since every unit except the Gun Servitor has to get close to be able to do damage.
@@CanYouRollaCrit Yeah, have watched the full vid and enjoyed the commentary. Was more just so I can copy the images out of the video to print or w/e without you in the corner hahaha. But I did enjoy the video!
Love your videos and commentary but find it quite hard to follow along with these reviews whenever you just read the rules out loud like you do here. If you instead explained what each ability or unit did in your own words, perhaps with similar techniques that you’ve used in your ”how to play [kill team]” vids, I think these reviews would be easier to comprehend. Cheers, still love to watch though!
@@CanYouRollaCrit hope so... Altho, I was planning on slapping them in a deathwatch army and I've found they don't seem to be compatible with any SM transports... As far as I can tell... 🤔😬
Yeah alright, I'm blown away by how much I love this team. As a Vet Guard nerd, this is a brilliant bit of flavor change. Time to no life this team when I can get them.
They're super fun, not busted but you can do some funny strong things
Ah a fellow Vet Guard
I've got a box of Delaque coming to build the extra Agents with. That, plus 4 spare Guard bodies after doing Ancillary, I reckon it'll work.
Oh nice, those will look great!
I really don’t understand why you can’t take Sororitas as an ancillary support.
Sisters...are doing it for themselves? 😅
@@CanYouRollaCrit 😂
26:00 Cant see the Confidant veteran on the roster. Would have been sweet. I like what you said about painting the vet guard up tho. 👍
Yeah I was wrong about the Confidant sadly 🥲
Sounds like a fun and flavourful team! And I agree that it will take time to figure out the best way to play it. But that's part of the fun for me. And just wondering.... Will master crafted autopistol equipment in Interrogator not stack with Tome Skull buff making the pistol hit really hard? And perhaps mystic to help an extra shot go through?
They are! It can stack but it's a lot of work for a 2/3 damage attack where you can just buff other stuff instead
Awesome video.. Was really curious about the proper build strategy for this team and this helped a lot. Since I have Octarius I'll be pairing Vet Guard with em. Hoping this box will sway one of my locals to run the narrative
Ah nice, that's great to hear! It is a very good narrative box if that helps haha
@@CanYouRollaCrit And I have a friend who's willing to give it a go! .. My flgs was able to secure a copy so now it's build n paint time next week. Stoked
Cant wait 😂. Hope it will be interesting and fun to play team!
All will be revealed soon 👀
Why make the scions 4+ if they don’t have rerolls or elite points? They’re just useless kasrkin and arguably even more guardsmen at that point unless I’m missing something. They have a near negligible durability boost over vet guard and have the same comms as the Kasrkin. Very disappointed how they handled the ancillary support. The specialist seem pretty fun tho
Yeah Scions are a missed opportunity. Really confusing
Totally agree man... super trained men all life long shoot as a regular conscript and worse than a nun...
@@eddyastor2724 train their whole lives just to shoot like an ork….☠️☠️
Absolute Authority is probably most toxic play in the game unfortunately . Remember when people were upset that Arbites can take away their Scouting? Those good days :(
Yeah, won't be surprised if it goes to once per game or 2CP
what are the inquisitorial agents base size... ffor kitbashing purposes :P
All 25mm. Gun Servitor is 32mm (:
The Penal Legionannaire gets relentless against anyone that is missing 1 wound. That's interesting, even if it isn't amazing.
It's alright but kinda hard to setup
What verteran guard operatives would you advise taking with your inquisitorial agent picks?
I like taking gunners, demo, comms, bionic arm and either medic or zealot. I take 2 troopers for loot as well
Plasma, melta and grenade launcher (:
Mystic Agent curves the bullet
Sometimes movies can be accurate after all 🤣
Main inquisitor since beta
Finally Spain gets some deserved
consideration having his own Kill team 🤣
Damn Spain too strong
(I love Inquisition too 💞)
What team (not roster, just looking for a all around team to use for one-off matches) do you recommend then? Looks like some changes have been made so wanted to check if you had an updated opinion on what to bring. I would like either Kasrkin or Veteran Guardsmen, but which operatives would be good?
Hmmm, so if you deny a ploy with Absolute Authority, it's not technically "used," so the Autosavant would not generate the CP, yes?
Yup that's correct (:
Very dissapointed by the scions man... I loved them with all my heart and they did them dirty... somehow even goats get more love
Thanks for the vid btw!
Very odd scions were even included. Thanks, glad you liked it (:
@@CanYouRollaCrit well it's very lore-appropriate for Scions to be in
Scions 4+
Damn I did not know 😯
4+ what?
20:10 confidant is only 3/4 damage, unlike pretty much every other chainsword in the game!
He is just weaksauce 😂
Also cant be taken in this team which is the bigger point haha.
@@homeless0alien I didn't even notice that! only the Bruiser and Hardened Veteran for a melee choice, pretty rough.
It seems the scalpers are charging like $100+ for this kill team but luckily my 3D printer does it for $14 thanks to Redmaker for creating some excellent proxy models for me to play with. I think I'll combine them with some Vostroyans for veterans and see what happens.
Great tip, thanks! Saved me a pre-order today. Still got the Felgors though
🥔 for the algorithm
There's something profoundly funny about the scions being 4+ BS after the whole Kasrkin-can't-be-just-4+BS meltdown that people had.
Now the cycle can repeat itself again 🤣
Kasrkin get Elite which more than balances it out, Scions don't
The leader is weak, but it's really easy to score 2VP from investigate lead imo. You do the same kind of juggle as with Kasrkin's vital objective, while you are not really missing a vital operative on the battlefield. And he should survive unless you get completely overrun.
Investigate lead is very map dependent imo
Can't wait to, even if we already know their leader is weak beyond weakness and he can give +1 attack to 4+ scions in range... I have a bad feeling about this🤣
I actually prefer it on the skull! Faster and easier to get into position
@@CanYouRollaCrit Confident can be pick ? i dont see him in the roster
How work savant when I use absolute authority? Did I get cp because for example they used send time just a scratch but I block it or not?
No because you stopped the ploy from happening
@@CanYouRollaCrit damn :D
Hey i just wanted to ask if you take kasrkins can you use your faction ability on trooper? becaue he has in datacard that he can spend 1 free elite point thanks for answer
Only on the Trooper as they have it on their datacard
The Trooper is still not able to use that free elite point, since they loose the Kasrkin keyword if they join the Inquisition kill team.
Ahhhh...unfortunate 🥲
@@Pontusjoh Why do they mention that you can use void armour as breachers then is it different from kasrkin trooper ? iam confused
@@dragonofdojima5604 Void armor never mentions any keyword, since it's inbuilt on their data cards. Elite points however is tied to the Kasrkin keyword :)
just me or is Absolute Authority kinda busted vs some teams. being able to just be "the ploy your team needs to function? nah." every single turn.
Yeah, it's cray cray
It is but it is also hilarious vs Harlequins
cant wait for resurrection deny as hierotek
Rip non-intercessor Space Marines who need to use cp for bolter disciple :(
Also really good against wyrmblade to deny slink back into darkness.
So what are the recomended operatives for Veteran Gardsmen and Kaserkin you would make?
Basically gunners, comms, demo for both then bionic arm, zealot, recon kasrkin and 2 vet guard troopers
@@CanYouRollaCrit and no medic for any of them?
@@CanYouRollaCrit And any specific gunners?
Oh medic for both, plasma, melta and grenade for VG, only melta and plasma for kasrkin
I kinda feel like this team lives and dies by the ancillary support options. Regardless of their rules the operatives themselves seem very weak and easy to remove. In my experience, teams with 5+ saves either have high wounds, an additional rule for keeping themselves alive like the Farstalker Kinband with Rogue, or at least above average combat capabilities. I suppose it'll come down to how they really get used, but I'd be worried about getting tabled playing them, especially since every unit except the Gun Servitor has to get close to be able to do damage.
They're strong but live and die on the support
Does Intense Scrutiny beat Super Conceal like on Genestealers?
No, that still trumps Scrutiny
Its wierd they ommited sisters of battle
Kinda but looks like they want them to be independent
Great breakdown, be real awesome if you moved your head out the way of the rules tho.... lol
I still explain all the rules (:
@@CanYouRollaCrit Yeah, have watched the full vid and enjoyed the commentary. Was more just so I can copy the images out of the video to print or w/e without you in the corner hahaha. But I did enjoy the video!
Wait, they nerfed scions BS in this? Does it replace their BS in the compendium??
Not yet, for now at least
So kasrkin don’t get elite points right? So then why play them over vet guard ever?
No elite points but you get their specialists rules. So their comms is better for Into the Dark, one of them has a poximity mine and the free dash etc
Also scions are literally pointless lmao
Scions just exist 🤣
Also the amount of option jesusssssssssss like your gonna be carrying so many models lmao
The basic Kasrkin trooper still gets the one free elite point for what it's worth
Love your videos and commentary but find it quite hard to follow along with these reviews whenever you just read the rules out loud like you do here. If you instead explained what each ability or unit did in your own words, perhaps with similar techniques that you’ve used in your ”how to play [kill team]” vids, I think these reviews would be easier to comprehend. Cheers, still love to watch though!
I explain after reading the rule out just so it's clear. Otherwise only summarising can lead to confusion
Where the hell can I get those bloody henchmen!!?
Which ones?
@@CanYouRollaCrit the inquisitorial henchmen... Can't find them anywhere
Ah, hopefully GW release them seperately soon
@@CanYouRollaCrit hope so... Altho, I was planning on slapping them in a deathwatch army and I've found they don't seem to be compatible with any SM transports... As far as I can tell... 🤔😬