Full disclosure: I'm biased, 'cause I work at Eventide. One thing to keep in mind is that this is meant to be another tool in your kit, not necessarily a replacement for your Tube Screamer or Klon. In fact, I've gotten some great (and unique) sounds by having CrushStation sit in front of my amp with a bit of gain dialed in on the amp, as well. Adds a great MOSFET-style flavor. I've used it direct into my DAW with some tasty results. Frankly, I thought they were crazy when I heard of this idea. Gain is practically it's own religion. But, I'll be damned if they didn't made it sound great. Plus it does stuff no analog pedal can do. So... we're not here to replace your favorite deity, we just brought the lobster.
It's more like overdrive than rectifier distortion, but you really should experiment with it yourself to see. It's not going to replace my mini-rec, but it gives me a whole palette of overdrive tones it would have taken a half dozen pedals to get otherwise. Stay tuned, we have a new overdrive algorithm launch coming up...
Hi Jay, is there any way you can program a variac'd like adjustment in a multi-gain stage sounding algorithm? To get that gain really synth-like if possible but with very smooth clean buzz. Check 2:30 of the track"Descent by Fear Factory" to get what I mean if possible
Got this loaded on my max the other day. Sounds legit to me. I know some need to keep up their cred here and dismiss it out of the gate because it's digital. Some blind tests of "try and pick out the digital distortion" might be an interesting way to test those golden ears.
I ignored this algorithm for months but recently I finally started using it and it's pretty amazing. I love the fuzz tones I'm getting out of it. Too many fuzzes are too smooth or just sagging messes or the mids are just off or the bass gets too loose but since I can dial in the mid frequency or I can blend in just a tiny amount of clean to tighten it up....the grit and sag really get me to the exact flavor of dirt I want. Really great stuff. Since I already have a Max I can get the cheaper core pedal and it'll be maxed so I might keep one for dirt and octave stuff up front and then mod/delay/reverb at the end of my pedalboard. Oh, the hot switch is also cool....dial in my heavy rhythm sound and then I can move multiple knobs not just a volume or dirt boost on the hotswitch for a lead tone.
h9 has it all I have 2 one for stereo in my fx loops of both amps and one for pre post on my gigrig g2. i owned all of strymons stuff, over 2k worth and finally got wise dumped the strymon effects bought 2 h9s 1 max and 1 core plus a mission ep 25k exp pedal all for 800 bucks AWESOME! strymon who?? I use analog for OD, distortion, and fuzz but got to tell ya the crushstation just adds another avenue for the user. its not meant to replace all your dirt but it gives you different settings that no analog dirt can give.I'm betting that in a blind test you couldn't tell the difference and for sure in a live setting it would be real hard
+rick jones can you share the H9 max algorith, with the h9 core???? if the answer is yes......i definetly buy a max, and a core, used the core only for dirty distorsion effects and the max for other several sounds.
anaranjadoelectrico sure can. i would get something that could flip flop. might want distortion before or after an effect. i use g2 controller 2 amps stereo 1 h9 pre in front of amp and 1 h9 post in stereo thru both amps fx loops. i have detailed diagram. awesome results. check out gigrig for the flip flop thingy cant remember what its called .or use 1 h9 in front and one in loop of your amp.needs to be instrument level loop though. i use metro amp zero loss loops on my amps
Thanks for reply, im also planning to buy the BOSS ES8 controller switcher, it allows you to put pedals in any order you want, midi controll. hook pedals in parallel ect.... very interesting product. its a little expensive but i think it worth it. i used to use my FX loops, but now i go straight in front of the amp,, i know its better in fx loops, but, since i was having troubles with my guitar cables, i decide to cancelled and just go direct to the front.... but im totally willing to try again, since audio is more clear. It take my attention the thing you mention about the instrument level, can you explain more about it or have something for me to read.
oohh man ! i have read about this issue, so the problem is with the amp loopers! when they have line level, the pedal can handle this, and start clipping thats why the timefactor and modefactor pedals have this little switch LINE;AMP.... to select if your amp fxloop have line level, or instrument level! .....other issue i have found searching on internet is that when you have more than 1 midi pedal, the H9 receives good the midi program change.... but he doesnt let that the midi pedals after him receives the midi program change.... since you have 2 H9, do you have any problem with the midi change program you send to the H9 that is after the first H9 in the midi chain ???
instrument level is the way to go for fx loops. worth the effort to have it installed. metro amp excellent choice. i have zero issues with 2 h9's and midi. I actually have 3 pedals with midi 2 h9's and 1 source audio eq , NO issues with any.
***** It's not like I bought it, didn't use it and then immediately sold it. I used it for a while, but realised that I was only really using one or two chorus presets. It's pointless to have something that can do so much and only use such a small part of it. And when I realised that I could get the same, if not a better sound from individual pedals that cost fractions of what the H9 costs, it's not that hard to see why I sold it.
Agree. Digital Dirt is like filling your bath tub with cold water and calling it a swimming pool. Not the same thing, by a long shot. Cool demo and great playing as always but.... ew.
Jesse Maes this sounds pretty damn good too me its just another effect to use no one said you had to use it all the time. in a blind test i bet you couldn't tell much difference to be honest.
rick jones I never said it was about copying anyone, I'm merely asking. Nowhere in my comment did I say or imply "I would never buy this because it wouldn't help me copy people I like." In fact, it was the opposite; if I can't name anyone who even uses digital dirt, let alone this pedal, what makes you think my question would be aimed at emulating anyone? Also, I'd think in most art fields - be it photography, film-making, painting, etc. - you would want to know whether professionals use or shun certain types of tools. You disagree? Also, I find your comment ironic considering that the entire PGS line of demos is essentially nothing BUT copying other people's riffs and tones (plus there are several H9 presets that either implicitly or explicitly aim to copy famous players' and boxes' tones). Eventide also proudly advertises a list of artists that use the H9 (though it's not clear whether they use it for dirt or for wet tones). Finally, I guarantee that you, and other guitarists, have tried (either consciously or unconsciously) to emulate the tones they listen to and love and have incorporated them into your own "sound." Even the greats - maybe especially the greats - borrowed from those that inspired them. So the implication that originality is something that happens in a vacuum is wrong.
Digital and solid state technology is used in almost all modern guitar rigs in one form or the other. Pro or otherwise. Especially in a modern "Valve" amp. You would have to go well out of your way to intentionally avoid it these days. Which I often do. (Think 72' SuperLead). And even if a rig is all valve and analog- A pro is still sending his "sound" thru a solid state/digital Mixer and PA system. Intentionally using digital dirt is what your talking about- I get it. And your right to a certain extent. But a bit extreme. A great use for digital dirt is occasionally to add various amounts of it to your already dialed in valve amp dirt to add different characters to the same old sound you might get bored of. But I only add it in parallel so I don't compromise the integrity of my amp. Usually for some over the top lead sounds. Analog stomp- boxes are just attempting to do what my amp already does much better- so I sometimes use the digital distortions in my Eventide rack unit to add some different colors. Digital dirt is just another digital effect and countless Pros use digital effects. The intentional use of digital dirt is rare only because most amps have decent dirt built-in. If they didn't you would see just as much digital dirt as you see other digital effects. Anyway- so many modern so called "Analog" amps and pedals have a degree of digital enhancement going on. The only true pure valve distortion is from hand-wired valve amps. If there is a circuit board in your amp- then the" Valve" distortion Is more than likely being enhanced. All modern high-gain " Valve" amps have a stomp-box dirt circuit built-in at the very least- and many are hybrid now and have some digital voodoo going on as well.
Hello I have a question! Using Space Time: Can I open a preset like "dirt boost"for example and then drag delay or reverb and then save like a new preset? Thanks.
This goes to show how much of a genius Andy is.. He can make something as God awful as the crustation sound good. I love my H9 but this algo is a huge turd!
Full disclosure: I'm biased, 'cause I work at Eventide. One thing to keep in mind is that this is meant to be another tool in your kit, not necessarily a replacement for your Tube Screamer or Klon. In fact, I've gotten some great (and unique) sounds by having CrushStation sit in front of my amp with a bit of gain dialed in on the amp, as well. Adds a great MOSFET-style flavor. I've used it direct into my DAW with some tasty results. Frankly, I thought they were crazy when I heard of this idea. Gain is practically it's own religion. But, I'll be damned if they didn't made it sound great. Plus it does stuff no analog pedal can do. So... we're not here to replace your favorite deity, we just brought the lobster.
Can this get some thick dual rectifier type tones?
It's more like overdrive than rectifier distortion, but you really should experiment with it yourself to see. It's not going to replace my mini-rec, but it gives me a whole palette of overdrive tones it would have taken a half dozen pedals to get otherwise. Stay tuned, we have a new overdrive algorithm launch coming up...
so where and how much will this cost??? thanks sIr!!!!
Hi Jay, is there any way you can program a variac'd like adjustment in a multi-gain stage sounding algorithm? To get that gain really synth-like if possible but with very smooth clean buzz.
Check 2:30 of the track"Descent by Fear Factory" to get what I mean if possible
John Kravitz did you try starting your message with: Dear Sir/Madam?
Maybe don't start with "I don't play instruments"
Got this loaded on my max the other day. Sounds legit to me. I know some need to keep up their cred here and dismiss it out of the gate because it's digital. Some blind tests of "try and pick out the digital distortion" might be an interesting way to test those golden ears.
I ignored this algorithm for months but recently I finally started using it and it's pretty amazing. I love the fuzz tones I'm getting out of it. Too many fuzzes are too smooth or just sagging messes or the mids are just off or the bass gets too loose but since I can dial in the mid frequency or I can blend in just a tiny amount of clean to tighten it up....the grit and sag really get me to the exact flavor of dirt I want. Really great stuff. Since I already have a Max I can get the cheaper core pedal and it'll be maxed so I might keep one for dirt and octave stuff up front and then mod/delay/reverb at the end of my pedalboard. Oh, the hot switch is also cool....dial in my heavy rhythm sound and then I can move multiple knobs not just a volume or dirt boost on the hotswitch for a lead tone.
"into the flood again,same old trip it was baaaaack then" great song
Finally a good demo of this new algorithm
YES!! Alice in Chains \m/ \m/ Great review Andy.
This guy just crushed the demo!
I love you Andy, you always film what i interesting
As always, excellent demo. Will admit, it wasn't exactly what I was looking for, but for what it is, nice gadget, and guitar work.
h9 has it all I have 2 one for stereo in my fx loops of both amps and one for pre post on my gigrig g2. i owned all of strymons stuff, over 2k worth and finally got wise dumped the strymon effects bought 2 h9s 1 max and 1 core plus a mission ep 25k exp pedal all for 800 bucks AWESOME! strymon who?? I use analog for OD, distortion, and fuzz but got to tell ya the crushstation just adds another avenue for the user. its not meant to replace all your dirt but it gives you different settings that no analog dirt can give.I'm betting that in a blind test you couldn't tell the difference and for sure in a live setting it would be real hard
+rick jones can you share the H9 max algorith, with the h9 core???? if the answer is yes......i definetly buy a max, and a core, used the core only for dirty distorsion effects and the max for other several sounds.
anaranjadoelectrico sure can. i would get something that could flip flop. might want distortion before or after an effect. i use g2 controller 2 amps stereo 1 h9 pre in front of amp and 1 h9 post in stereo thru both amps fx loops. i have detailed diagram. awesome results. check out gigrig for the flip flop thingy cant remember what its called .or use 1 h9 in front and one in loop of your amp.needs to be instrument level loop though. i use metro amp zero loss loops on my amps
Thanks for reply, im also planning to buy the BOSS ES8 controller switcher, it allows you to put pedals in any order you want, midi controll. hook pedals in parallel ect.... very interesting product. its a little expensive but i think it worth it. i used to use my FX loops, but now i go straight in front of the amp,, i know its better in fx loops, but, since i was having troubles with my guitar cables, i decide to cancelled and just go direct to the front.... but im totally willing to try again, since audio is more clear. It take my attention the thing you mention about the instrument level, can you explain more about it or have something for me to read.
oohh man ! i have read about this issue, so the problem is with the amp loopers! when they have line level, the pedal can handle this, and start clipping thats why the timefactor and modefactor pedals have this little switch LINE;AMP.... to select if your amp fxloop have line level, or instrument level! .....other issue i have found searching on internet is that when you have more than 1 midi pedal, the H9 receives good the midi program change.... but he doesnt let that the midi pedals after him receives the midi program change.... since you have 2 H9, do you have any problem with the midi change program you send to the H9 that is after the first H9 in the midi chain ???
instrument level is the way to go for fx loops. worth the effort to have it installed. metro amp excellent choice. i have zero issues with 2 h9's and midi. I actually have 3 pedals with midi 2 h9's and 1 source audio eq , NO issues with any.
I finally figured out that he doesn't use a pick at all, just thumb /fingers..interesting..getting my h9 max tomorrow, eager to try it out.
AIC would, my favorite, great playin, Andy havin fun ! Perfect song for this pedal.
Oh wow, that first song ... Would? It's on the soundtrack to the film Singles ... badass reference, there man. Nice choice.
And it's on Alice in Chains second album, Dirt.
jondubb35 Oh right, Alice in Chains! This is why PGS has such great demos. Nuggets like this are gold.
That second tone is nuts.
"Into the flood again!"
Andy seemed to enjoy that one...
Good demo
I blend the sag effect with my ultimate fuzz pedal which gives it a wonderful organic velcro fuzz sound.
The H9 Crustacean? Should have a pic of a crab on it!
After wathing this video i think high gain and processed sound are the strong points, low, medium od not so much. but we are getting there.
I bet blending some dry signal in via the mix control would make things even better.
Needs emgs kind of thin bluesy sound
Second song was cool. What was it?
Love me some Alice in Chains! Nice one Andy!
Just after I sell my H9... Dammit.
Because I didn't really use it enough?
***** It's not like I bought it, didn't use it and then immediately sold it. I used it for a while, but realised that I was only really using one or two chorus presets. It's pointless to have something that can do so much and only use such a small part of it.
And when I realised that I could get the same, if not a better sound from individual pedals that cost fractions of what the H9 costs, it's not that hard to see why I sold it.
***** Geez have you never bought a pedal then sold it?
***** Seriously? What's the point?
+Tom SDM Well it's okay to have a pedal that can do so much and only use a single sound on it, if it's the sound you dig.
CrushStation... Crustacean...
Will Lane Productions my exact thoughts man, shoulda named it that, wait, they did
CHILLS
Digital dirt just doesn't seem to cut it. I guess there's a good reason Strymon aren't putting out a dirt pedal.
Agree. Digital Dirt is like filling your bath tub with cold water and calling it a swimming pool. Not the same thing, by a long shot.
Cool demo and great playing as always but.... ew.
Hatchet House I agree crud!! I prefer individual pedals, and the distortion of my Marshall JCM 2000 dsl.
Tell that to Axe FX and Kemper users...
Jesse Maes this sounds pretty damn good too me its just another effect to use no one said you had to use it all the time. in a blind test i bet you couldn't tell much difference to be honest.
Actually....google "Damage Control / Strymon"
ROCK ON
Know any pro guitarists who use digital dirt (and/or solid state amps)? I know there are some, mostly in the proggy or nu metal genres...
pdg887 its not about copying everybody its about a different take on drive kudos to eventide
rick jones I never said it was about copying anyone, I'm merely asking. Nowhere in my comment did I say or imply "I would never buy this because it wouldn't help me copy people I like." In fact, it was the opposite; if I can't name anyone who even uses digital dirt, let alone this pedal, what makes you think my question would be aimed at emulating anyone?
Also, I'd think in most art fields - be it photography, film-making, painting, etc. - you would want to know whether professionals use or shun certain types of tools. You disagree?
Also, I find your comment ironic considering that the entire PGS line of demos is essentially nothing BUT copying other people's riffs and tones (plus there are several H9 presets that either implicitly or explicitly aim to copy famous players' and boxes' tones). Eventide also proudly advertises a list of artists that use the H9 (though it's not clear whether they use it for dirt or for wet tones).
Finally, I guarantee that you, and other guitarists, have tried (either consciously or unconsciously) to emulate the tones they listen to and love and have incorporated them into your own "sound." Even the greats - maybe especially the greats - borrowed from those that inspired them. So the implication that originality is something that happens in a vacuum is wrong.
Digital and solid state technology is used in almost all modern guitar rigs in one form or the other. Pro or otherwise.
Especially in a modern "Valve" amp.
You would have to go well out of your way to intentionally avoid it these days. Which I often do. (Think 72' SuperLead).
And even if a rig is all valve and analog- A pro is still sending his "sound" thru a solid state/digital Mixer and PA system.
Intentionally using digital dirt is what your talking about- I get it. And your right to a certain extent. But a bit extreme.
A great use for digital dirt is occasionally to add various amounts of it to your already dialed in valve amp dirt to add different characters to the same old sound you might get bored of. But I only add it in parallel so I don't compromise the integrity of my amp.
Usually for some over the top lead sounds.
Analog stomp- boxes are just attempting to do what my amp already does much better- so I sometimes use the digital distortions in my Eventide rack unit to add some different colors.
Digital dirt is just another digital effect and countless Pros use digital effects.
The intentional use of digital dirt is rare only because most amps have decent dirt built-in. If they didn't you would see just as much digital dirt as you see other digital effects. Anyway- so many modern so called "Analog" amps and pedals have a degree of digital enhancement going on.
The only true pure valve distortion is from hand-wired valve amps. If there is a circuit board in your amp- then the" Valve" distortion Is more than likely being enhanced. All modern high-gain " Valve" amps have a stomp-box dirt circuit built-in at the very least- and many are hybrid now and have some digital voodoo going on as well.
Metallica
@ 4:24 oh, no he didn't!
If I would, could you?
WOULD? ---- yes. yes. yes.
Second song name please?
Hello I have a question! Using Space Time: Can I open a preset like "dirt boost"for example and then drag delay or reverb and then save like a new preset? Thanks.
if the answers would be yes i am buying it now
What is the weird thing that's happening at around 6:13?
TheJofrica I've heard people call it "Note Flipping"... Don't quote me, though.
omniboy33 Ok cool, thx for the info!
IF
I
WOULD
COULD
YOU?
So many aquatic puns...
I have some of these algorithms on my Eclipse.
But don't use them as I prefer analog. Eventide still king of modulation, imo.
how much does this cost? sounds like crud.. no good...
Makes sense something so toneless would come from an idea by Vernon Reid...
It's ant man on guitars!
Migs Rabat haha, i've mentioned that in some past videos, he does resemble paul ruud a lot. I'm sure andy gets a lot of tail
This goes to show how much of a genius Andy is.. He can make something as God awful as the crustation sound good. I love my H9 but this algo is a huge turd!
Rob Pagliuca maybe its the user i sound awesome using mine
Alice in chains 😢😢😢
Sounds fishy...
Worst gain sound from Andy and Proguitar shop ever?
-Otherwise happy h9 owner.
paldenno1 you must be listening to a different video i bet in a blind test you couldn't tell me if it was digital or not.
No sir I don't like it