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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2023
  • "We want to be free." That's the message of an increasing number of women in the Philippines, who are trapped in marriages they cannot escape. That's because divorce is illegal in the Catholic majority country.
    The only other place in the world, where this is the case, is the Vatican.
    Calls by activists are growing louder for divorce to be legalized - but they face a powerful opposition. Our next report introduces you to a woman who's been fighting for more than decade to legally be separated from her husband.. and who is slowly losing hope.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 426

  • @krol09.
    @krol09. 11 місяців тому +99

    People have a hard time grasping the fact that people change in a relationship. Physical and emotional abuse can start years after marriage.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому +5

      "Emotional abuse"

    • @marshmallowcello7528
      @marshmallowcello7528 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@@SubvertTheState troll or just emotionally stunted. Maybe both.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@marshmallowcello7528whatever story you need to tell yourself. Cant ever be uncomfortable or anything.

    • @marshmallowcello7528
      @marshmallowcello7528 11 місяців тому +10

      @@SubvertTheState I grew up in a broken home and so are many others I know. This isn't an isolated case as you make it out to be.

    • @classic11737
      @classic11737 11 місяців тому

      @@marshmallowcello7528 Ukraine has a divorce with Russia

  • @TheotherKirby
    @TheotherKirby 8 місяців тому +15

    We have to realize that some people dont show their true colors before marriage. Once your married and binded together forever without escape they will show their true behaviour

    • @theconqueror742
      @theconqueror742 2 місяці тому

      Then dont marry unless you know each other

  • @turf9232
    @turf9232 11 місяців тому +39

    Without love marriage is a prison, divorce is love for loved ones’ future,and future is hope.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому +6

      All of that "self love" in the form of alimony, child support and half of the assetts.

    • @classic11737
      @classic11737 11 місяців тому +3

      Exactly! Conflicts are diplomacy, not war and domination where there is only one winner.
      When two souls find each other Such a marriage is for the rest of life.

    • @classic11737
      @classic11737 11 місяців тому +5

      @@SubvertTheState Self Love ? Own space. Freedom of mind, which will give aspirations and melancholy to the other half of the soul.
      It is not an acceptance of the selfishness of the other side of the soul in marriage

    • @ricardoxavier827
      @ricardoxavier827 11 місяців тому

      Their political system has a senate, so, no true democracy because promotes extra power to the bigger parties by the senate tool.

    • @divorcephilippines6768
      @divorcephilippines6768 11 місяців тому

      Divorce is a legal conclusion and separate the assets in a right way..and knows.where the custody

  • @gplipp6489
    @gplipp6489 11 місяців тому +17

    Nothing like living in the 15th century in 2023

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому +1

      Honoring a contract?

    • @ricardoxavier827
      @ricardoxavier827 11 місяців тому

      Their political system has a senate, so, no true democracy because promotes extra power to the bigger parties by the senate tool.

  • @seikimachan
    @seikimachan 11 місяців тому +24

    I worked in a law office for five years and filing an annulment costs a million worth of filings, pleadings, appearance fee, acceptance fee and attorney's fee even paying for a psychological report by psychologists but it's doesn't mean that you'll be granted. Worse, it takes several years if you are going to appeal with the higher court after being denied.
    I would agree with this report!
    PS: No wonder how other Filipinos did some shortcuts in a illegal manner.

    • @divorcephilippines6768
      @divorcephilippines6768 11 місяців тому +4

      Yes true cause we are desperate to have freedom its so hard to get justice in our country if you don't have money

    • @bicolanasilyzel4529
      @bicolanasilyzel4529 8 місяців тому

      May alam po ba kayo Clinical Psychologist?

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 8 місяців тому

      @@bicolanasilyzel4529 Edith Galura ung alam kong psychologist

    • @chuck5553
      @chuck5553 8 місяців тому

      Christianity is practiced worldwide….why is it just the Filipino people suffering under this rule?

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 8 місяців тому

      @@chuck5553 Mixing with Politics

  • @leroyhudson4311
    @leroyhudson4311 10 місяців тому +11

    This is infuriating. I'm abroad but someone there I want to bring to the USA to marry but I can't because she's still married to a man that abandoned her 25yrs ago. She can't get a K1 Visa because she's still married. The annulment process can also be a scam and very expensive. They will extract thousands of dollars from you during the process. This is horrid for her because she shouldn't feel like a "low class lady" when she has someone.

  • @JosephSolisAlcaydeAlberici
    @JosephSolisAlcaydeAlberici 11 місяців тому +19

    Divorce is illegal in the Philippines because legislators depend their electoral winnability with the conservative Catholic and Evangelical voters, so a legislator (a district representative) who advocates for allowing absolute divorce is expected to lose in the next legislative election.

    • @billyjavier646
      @billyjavier646 11 місяців тому

      Bakit si tatay digong pre? Gusto nya divorce nanalo parin. Anu yan pre, di naman kasi pinaguusapan ng mga tao. Nahihiya siguro.

    • @johnreton696
      @johnreton696 11 місяців тому +1

      Very 1800s kind of mindset

    • @craftside007
      @craftside007 9 місяців тому +2

      You are right.. most of the senators are blocking this bill.. shameless senators

    • @SakuraPonchonsavarit
      @SakuraPonchonsavarit 9 місяців тому

      Yes, but the main reason really is because it has never become a priority bill in the first place. The Catholic church has significantly lost its influence in the past few decades so they are not the real barrier here. Based on what I observed, the country just has too many problems to solve and discuss first that it became so easy for legislators to just dismiss divorce

    • @nataliagarcia4139
      @nataliagarcia4139 8 місяців тому

      Hypocrite! Alam nmn ng lahat yan! Kahit cmbahn alam nmn na need ng divorce pero,patuloy prin sa pgiging ipokrito at ipokrita,cno b nmn ang gustong mkisma sa taon hindi mo na mahal at di kna masaya,ang gusto ng cmbhn eh khit hindi kna masaya mgptuloy kpa rin sa kasal mo,pno nmn ung mga nkkita n ng ibang mkksma at bumilang n ng anak sa iba at gusto ng mgpakasal.

  • @harileon717
    @harileon717 5 місяців тому +4

    BEING BORN AS A FILIPINO IS ENDLESS SUFFERING FROM CRADLE TO GRAVE.

    • @patbens9501
      @patbens9501 Місяць тому

      Well, how often have you heard
      That your bible is god's word,
      While we know where and when
      It was written by men
      To corral the female herd?

    • @bigsmoke4568
      @bigsmoke4568 8 днів тому

      Would you rather be born in Somalia or North Korea instead? Life can be a lot worse than being born a Filipino

  • @Ass_of_Amalek
    @Ass_of_Amalek 11 місяців тому +19

    how is the government able to overrule a court's marriage anullment?

    • @ronnelacido1711
      @ronnelacido1711 11 місяців тому +2

      Because under the Constitution, the State is mandated to protect the sanctity of marriage. To do this, the Solicitor General puts up challenges against any petition for legal separation. Currently, there are only two options in dissolving marriages in the Philippines: annulment and legal separation.

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ronnelacido1711 However, legal separation doesn't make you to be remarried. Our law is now absurd!

    • @svv123
      @svv123 11 місяців тому

      @@seikimachan you want to remarried?

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 11 місяців тому

      @@svv123 NO‼️I am not married actually‼️

    • @Ind0mitabl3
      @Ind0mitabl3 10 місяців тому

      ​@@ronnelacido1711protect or make money off of

  • @dearph4620
    @dearph4620 7 місяців тому +6

    I think the video title should be "Why some Filipinos want their country to have a divorce law again?" as we used to have that until 1950s. The annulment law in the Philippines is just like a divorce law but a very expensive & complicated version of it. The annulment case can lasts for 2 years or longer making it more costly but advantageous for the lawyers. Absence of divorce law in PH shows that many lawmakers in PH love hypocrisy, want to please some church leaders who strongly oppose enactment of divorce bill, don't care about the majority who can't afford to spend for an annulment case & many are probably afraid that their spouses will divorce them & the court might order majority of their properties to be given to innocent spouses since the divorce bills submitted before didn't include no-fault divorce.

  • @Snoochieboochies27
    @Snoochieboochies27 11 місяців тому +24

    They should separate church from state. A secular state wouldn't have that that problem.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому +3

      Then why marry in a church, by a priest. People want to be celebrated by everyone, swear vows before God, be recognized by the State and everyone they know as married. Until their "feelings" change, now it should be easy for someone to change their mind?

    • @RoundBaguette
      @RoundBaguette 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@SubvertTheState Not all marriages are under a religion, i didn't get married under one so your argument doesn't work

    • @cyberfunk3793
      @cyberfunk3793 11 місяців тому

      @@SubvertTheState "now it should be easy for someone to change their mind?"
      Yes obviously it should be easy for someone to change their mind, that is what happens in reality all the time.

    • @Snoochieboochies27
      @Snoochieboochies27 11 місяців тому

      @@SubvertTheState not sure if just civil marriages exist in the Philippines

    • @GTX311
      @GTX311 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@SubvertTheStateA church wedding is just a civil wedding with extra frills. It's nothing special.

  • @zelbarbero
    @zelbarbero 7 місяців тому +7

    This is why I'm scared of marrying, there is no divorce here. And I can't marry the man I love because he is still legally bound to his ex wife. So annoying.

  • @deesan2940
    @deesan2940 11 місяців тому +5

    Im one of the filipina who filed for annullment and because of lack of evidence my annullment was denied,we file a motion for reconsideration to reverse the decision and now i am waiting for the decision...
    So stressful this annullment our law here is not fair ,how we can move on if we still used the surname of our husband...

    • @divorcephilippines6768
      @divorcephilippines6768 11 місяців тому

      Omg..I feel you situation sis thats why I am.afraid to file Annulment then later on sometime you are scam

    • @mclifediaries4591
      @mclifediaries4591 7 місяців тому

      Hi mam mg file din po ako ngyun October na curious po ako Anu po evidence and need Ng court na henhenge po pra. M approved po nla ?

    • @pakwansponge2665
      @pakwansponge2665 7 місяців тому

      hay naku! nung kinan*** ka d mo inisip mga bagay na yan. ngayon iiyak iyak ka dyan? hay naku kakati nyo😂

  • @user-xd3mm3vh7c
    @user-xd3mm3vh7c 11 місяців тому +27

    Thank you for an interesting topic.
    I am Ukrainian who travelled to Philippines and met friends and got to learn about people a fair bit.
    I wish Philippinos courage to make a move and give freedom to people whose lives it affects. At the end of the day you can’t make life choices on behalf of all people. People need a choice to make a decision and they will stand the God’s trial if that’s what the belief is.
    The Catholic Church in Philippines can exert its efforts of education and continue their efforts to help the poor and homeless.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому +8

      If you can enter into a binding contract, and just break the contract and be rewarded for it...Who on Earth would ever enter one? Thats marriage in America, you would have to be a fool to get married in America as a man today.

    • @ricardoxavier827
      @ricardoxavier827 11 місяців тому

      Their political system has a senate, so, no true democracy because promotes extra power to the bigger parties by the senate tool.

    • @TheRootedWord
      @TheRootedWord 11 місяців тому

      The woman is lying. Coerced marriages are illegal by both the Philippine government and the Catholic Church and is clear ground for annulment, without being overturned. This story is full of lies. And the woman has also chosen to live as an adulteress by the moral standards of her church, the Catholic Church. Therefore, she will never be allowed to remarry. She knows that and yet she has made her choice. Don't feel so sorry for her. This is not a political issue. It is a personal choice she made. As for the DW presentation of this, it is for a social value agenda that is opposed to the Catholic Church. That is why they have misrepresented the situation. Btw, I am in Ukraine.

    • @bonwi9746
      @bonwi9746 11 місяців тому

      It's a norm, binding contract sworn till death!

    • @snowlise3127
      @snowlise3127 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@SubvertTheStateYou guys just hate marriage in America because there, women don't have to deal with negging men. Women and children don't suffer as much. While here in the Philippines, you men are more than free to leave and hurt a woman as much as you like.

  • @houstonfilipino
    @houstonfilipino 5 днів тому +1

    Legalizing divorce will start the degradation of family values…. Annulment should be granted after physical abuse ( with police and medical records) , infidelity, forced or under a threat marriage and abandonment ( 2 years)…. People sometimes divorce just because their spouse snore a lot or have different goals in life….

  • @samuela-aegisdottir
    @samuela-aegisdottir 11 місяців тому +15

    Anullment is not the same as divorce. It's worse. Anullment is what the Roman Catholic Church has in stead of divorce, but it is not equivalent. It means that the court declares that your marriage never existed. For that, it needs a "proof", and that can be difficult to provide. But saying that the marriage never existed is a lie in most cases. When people marry, they often marry for love. And the marriage is real. When their love disapear, it does not mean they never loved each other. The concept of anullment force people to claim what is not true: to claim that the marriage never existed. The people are forced to lie. And then the court also lies, because it also claims what is not true. And when it is a religious court, then it is a lie before God. That make anullment actuallly anti-religious. Anullment makes lots of harm by forcing people to lie. That is why divorce should be legal everywhere.

    • @samuela-aegisdottir
      @samuela-aegisdottir 11 місяців тому +1

      One of the possible "poofs" which the Church acknowledge for claiming the marriage never existed is that it was involuntary. That means that the woman in the video is actually one of the rare cases when annullment is possible, even by the strict rules of the church. The fact that it was denied to her is another proof how unjust the Philipino system is and how desperatlelly the country needs to legalize divorces.

    • @dillinpicklesworth5698
      @dillinpicklesworth5698 11 місяців тому

      @@samuela-aegisdottir there is a child, therefor the church will neither grant Anullment or divorce

    • @pharcyde8083
      @pharcyde8083 11 місяців тому

      Isn’t divorce lying when vows are exchanged to honor each other, “in sickness and in health, till death do you part”? 🤔

    • @ivzmeh6385
      @ivzmeh6385 11 місяців тому

      annulment is woke law divorce is a real law..

  • @ellamariericarte2004
    @ellamariericarte2004 11 місяців тому +6

    I need to be free I'm separated for 11years already so please be legal the divorce

  • @TheRealAudioDidact
    @TheRealAudioDidact 11 місяців тому +22

    I feel so bad for her. I hope she finds peace and love.

  • @ryangraf2542
    @ryangraf2542 11 місяців тому +5

    They should change marrige law not divorce law

  • @garydorsett6556
    @garydorsett6556 10 місяців тому +2

    An OFW living in Dubai for seven years with a resident card is unable to obtain a divorce from her husband in the Philippines from whom she has been separated for 20 years. Ironically in the event the same individual came into the United States whether legally or illegally she might obtain a divorce in the United States.

  • @jerumd
    @jerumd 5 місяців тому +6

    As a Filipino man living in the USA. I think the laws in my country should remain the same! I am never been a fan of Divorce, Child Support, or worse, Alimony! Women over here in the USA are taking full advantage of the family courts even though they are the ones who initiated the divorce themselves and their men are not the abuser. Women over here are promiscuous and Infidelity is running rampant here, all because women are given more rights and privileges than men! If they change the laws to legalize divorce in my country, I can 100% bet plenty of innocent good husbands who are not abusers will suffer and infidelity will be more popular than the Catholics can handle! I say NO to legalizing divorce!

    • @thesubgenius1676
      @thesubgenius1676 4 місяці тому +1

      Look at that pretzel. You never went to the US. Just sit down, and zip it.

  • @ronaldlalisan5592
    @ronaldlalisan5592 11 місяців тому +8

    Philippines should change the law. People can choose who ever they want to married. Also philippines shouldn't follow the vatican. I still i don't understand why philippines follow a roman catholic ways. As roman catholic i'm sad of this situation. My message to both Filipino men and women don't enter a relationship that you're unsure of. Appeareance can be deceiving. A person true nature will be reveal to you when you spent you're days with them. Pray 🙏 that this situation will be over for the good of the Filipino people.

    • @cyberfunk3793
      @cyberfunk3793 11 місяців тому +3

      If you think praying will change anything, just pray for world peace and end to immediate suffering and starvation etc.

  • @darrylgrigg3264
    @darrylgrigg3264 11 місяців тому +9

    There is one additional way some Filipinos obtain divorces. That way is where a Filipino citizen obtains residency or citizenship in another country and obtains a divorce there. If so, that Filipino can legally remarry in another country if only have residency in that country. If they have citizenship, they can remarry in the Philippines based on a valid overseas divorce. Various celebrities have done this but need to have some money. Annulment, Philippines style, is very expensive and time consuming and so is largely limited to the wealthy and privileged there. This is an area of law urgently needing reform. The current bills before the Congress are largely modelled on the former Senator Santiago`s model which is in part fault based and in part minimum separation period based. The proposed law is therefore conservative in contrast to countries like Australia where divorce is not fault based. Just 12 months separation required to show marriage breakdown.

    • @LSmoney215
      @LSmoney215 11 місяців тому +1

      Most Philippines are living in poverty and dont the funds to travel abroad become a citizen and then pay for a divorce. That's expensive

    • @darrylgrigg3264
      @darrylgrigg3264 11 місяців тому +3

      @@LSmoney215 That is why I wrote "some". Most Filipinos do live in poverty as you say, so neither legal option is available to them. That is why divorce must be introduced.

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 11 місяців тому +1

      This is true! If one person granted divorce, the other must file judicial recognition of foreign divorce!

    • @samuela-aegisdottir
      @samuela-aegisdottir 11 місяців тому +3

      So divorce is possible, but only for rich. That is hypocrisy.

    • @jannarkiewicz633
      @jannarkiewicz633 11 місяців тому +3

      You are not 100% correct. It is possible to travel to the U.S. as a tourist. Then go to Nevada for six weeks and get a divorce provided you plan to get married to someone in the U.S. You get have a divorce finalized in Nevada on Saturday and get married in California on Sunday. So, no you do not need to be a resident or Citizen -- at least not in the United States.

  • @randomcrap1154
    @randomcrap1154 11 місяців тому +6

    stay strong Philippines

  • @rosechielmacario3535
    @rosechielmacario3535 8 місяців тому +1

    Same story of love life 😢... Hoping and praying divorce will be legalize... Seeking it for 21yrs.

  • @randysy9489
    @randysy9489 5 місяців тому +1

    Ana santos, thank you. Just wanted to add, catholic church is against divorce but during the pandemic, when a lot of people cant travel back to their provinces. Did these churches provided help or food to those jeepney drivers who just slept in their jeepneys?

  • @pharcyde8083
    @pharcyde8083 11 місяців тому +11

    Legalizing divorce just promotes marriages of convenience like the U.S. which has over a 50% divorce rate. People get married for the ring and reception. The sanctity of marriage is just an afterthought.

    • @dillinpicklesworth5698
      @dillinpicklesworth5698 11 місяців тому +3

      amen, a vow is a vow

    • @ronbernardpenero7926
      @ronbernardpenero7926 11 місяців тому +6

      But not legalizing it just prisons women who are getting abused by their husbands
      even if it's a vow we don't care if it was made in church since the marriage is already falling apart

    • @pharcyde8083
      @pharcyde8083 11 місяців тому +4

      @@ronbernardpenero7926 False. Legal separation means women can leave an abusive relationship. If you don’t believe in marriage vows either leave via separation or don’t get married.

    • @divorcephilippines6768
      @divorcephilippines6768 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@dillinpicklesworth5698can you stop controlling the life of the people,if you don't help us..focus your preaching every Sunday or focus to fixed the scandals one of your father did..

    • @dillinpicklesworth5698
      @dillinpicklesworth5698 11 місяців тому +3

      @@divorcephilippines6768 sorry that you're offended by my simple comment, but it's true, a vow is a vow, if you are too weak to keep your vows, then don't make them.

  • @judelyntransite7922
    @judelyntransite7922 6 місяців тому

    because annulment is very costly here in the Philippines if the annulment the way is not expensive and short term process only . the more the long term and expensive .the people will be having trauma from financially and depress for waiting for the papers .

  • @vv3security131
    @vv3security131 6 місяців тому +1

    there's annulment, no need to divorce

  • @GerbsCE
    @GerbsCE 9 місяців тому +6

    I’m not in favor of this. We will be just like other countries. Making marriage like a game of trial and error. Look at other countries, marry today divorce tomorrow

    • @nexus-6392
      @nexus-6392 8 місяців тому

      You have the right to be retarded, but don't try to take decisions for orhere.

    • @QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht
      @QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht 8 місяців тому

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    • @GoreGahan
      @GoreGahan 7 днів тому

      Are you familiar with the adage, 'It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer'? By extension, I believe it's preferable for ten individuals to divorce for trivial reasons than for one person with valid grounds to be denied the opportunity to divorce. This analogy underscores the importance of ensuring that those in abusive or intolerable situations have the freedom to seek divorce, akin to safeguarding the rights of the innocent, while acknowledging the complexity of divorce decisions in different circumstances.

    • @GerbsCE
      @GerbsCE 7 днів тому

      @@GoreGahan then don’t marry.

    • @GoreGahan
      @GoreGahan 7 днів тому

      @@GerbsCE Imagine if we applied your logic to other aspects of life. Would we advise against starting a business because there's a risk of failure? Or discourage people from pursuing their dreams because there's a chance they might not succeed? Just as in marriage, where love and commitment are the driving forces, life is full of risks, but it's the pursuit of happiness and fulfillment that makes it worthwhile. Instead of avoiding marriage altogether because of the possibility of divorce, we should focus on supporting healthy relationships and providing resources for those who find themselves in difficult situations.

  • @therrymortel3135
    @therrymortel3135 2 місяці тому

    Same here. I was separated for 18 yrs. I was abandoned with my 2 kids. Yes, not a single cent of legal support

    • @codecode1948
      @codecode1948 Місяць тому

      You can go to the public attorney's office. And child abandonment is a violation under Violence Against Women and Children law.

  • @armastus1474
    @armastus1474 7 місяців тому +2

    Keep fighting for your freedoms! Don’t let religion or culture keep you in bondage when you know it’s wrong.

  • @jsphfalcon
    @jsphfalcon 11 місяців тому +1

    some people go to other countries to get divorced

  • @johnpresley6342
    @johnpresley6342 11 місяців тому +1

    That is why it is in good time or bad time. Don’t get pregnant if you don’t want to be in forced marriage. Philippines doesn’t have room for broken marriages.

  • @garydorsett6556
    @garydorsett6556 10 місяців тому

    You can file a divorce in Pennsylvsnia after living here 90 days. The problem is obtaining a tourist visa to come to the U.S.. How csn you file for a Fiance 90 day visa for a Filipina unless she is already divorced?

  • @momshioks
    @momshioks 11 місяців тому

    In the first place, there is no Divorce Law in the Phils, therefore you cannot say it is illegal. Properly, you can state, divorce is not yet allowed. Hows that?

  • @theuglykwan
    @theuglykwan 11 місяців тому

    If politicians don't want to do it, can they have the people decide it via referendum?

  • @empirestate8791
    @empirestate8791 5 місяців тому +2

    Don't do it. I support allowing people to end marriages due to abuse, but people shouldn't be allowed to divorce for any reason. Once you make the commitment towards marriage, you must understand that it's a lifelong commitment that can only be broken under the most extreme circumstances like abuse.

  • @tellydianadayondon6534
    @tellydianadayondon6534 7 місяців тому

    Why not make annulment cheap.....

  • @notarmchairhistorian7779
    @notarmchairhistorian7779 11 місяців тому +1

    Sure. But there should be an ethical basis and not a hedonistic intent.

  • @rebeccabandol6481
    @rebeccabandol6481 7 місяців тому +4

    It was a big problem here in Philippines I want the divorce legalised here so that I could be free from my fail marriage

    • @pakwansponge2665
      @pakwansponge2665 7 місяців тому

      kati lang yan😂

    • @oliveri9407
      @oliveri9407 6 місяців тому +1

      You shouldn’t have gotten married in the first place then.

  • @erlanmarktero350
    @erlanmarktero350 10 місяців тому +1

    not-only-women-in-the-philippines-are-suffering..Also-us-men

  • @xedteromo5878
    @xedteromo5878 11 місяців тому +2

    Since we were young "Filipino" they drill it to us that marriage is sacred and you have to be serious about it. We are the last two nation in the world that don't have divorce, I remember a priest in a debate about divorce saying "Are we being left by time? or are we still holding on on what is right?" And it makes you think deeply, I believe that we are still holding on on what we believe is right. You can get a civil wedding (may be divorce can be apply here) but if you want a church wedding then commit to your vow, to God and to yourself and to your partner (most filipino are separated if there's an abuse in marriage).

  • @jboycaceres2871
    @jboycaceres2871 2 місяці тому

    There even nursery rhymes in the Philippines, or at least my hometown, we sing "casal camo sa padi, daing bawi bawi"..."you are married by the priest, you cannot undo it, never".

  • @clementte6948
    @clementte6948 11 місяців тому +4

    Philippine must have a divorce law already. even politicians here have already separated from their husband or wife and is already in relation with another.

    • @DemPilafian
      @DemPilafian 11 місяців тому

      Show me the money!!!

  • @brusdiywoodcraftsproject5198
    @brusdiywoodcraftsproject5198 11 місяців тому

    Only reach people can be out of marriage 🌍🇵🇭😭

  • @sanathalove
    @sanathalove 11 місяців тому +2

    I hope they change the law but should somehow protect the value of marriage
    as a filipina, i'm still hoping that if i marry,
    i'll marry once for a lifetime
    😭 praying to God please help me met and choose the right one 🙏🏻

    • @divorcephilippines6768
      @divorcephilippines6768 11 місяців тому +9

      not all like you..your opinion dont generalized to everyone..if you dont want divorce then dont apply..but dont block the other that need it..

    • @brianhoffman8055
      @brianhoffman8055 9 місяців тому

      Don’t get married there.

    • @whatisdoneisdone9171
      @whatisdoneisdone9171 7 місяців тому +1

      @@divorcephilippines6768 MAKASARILI KASI YAN! yes to divorce

  • @user-kt6bi4yb3m
    @user-kt6bi4yb3m 6 місяців тому

    Annulment is only to people who have enough money to pay for the annulment is to expensive lot of people cannot afford to pay it

  • @robcab3725
    @robcab3725 11 місяців тому +3

    legal separation makes a lot of sense. wish that was more prevalent in the states where people divorce each other for money all the time

  • @hangten1904
    @hangten1904 11 місяців тому +6

    Laws in the Philippines ought to be secular.

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 11 місяців тому

      As a Filipino, that 1986 Constitution esp its Family Code is merely obsolete!

  • @codecode1948
    @codecode1948 Місяць тому

    She's hiding information in that polling! Yes, most Filipinos are okay with divorce under certain circumstances, such as, abuse. Not like in the west where you can divorce for whatever reason.

  • @brandoncomer6492
    @brandoncomer6492 6 місяців тому

    If divorce didn’t inevitably lead to the family destroying disaster that is no fault divorce I suspect there wouldn’t be as much pushback against it.
    But there definitely needs to be something in place for these marriages where there is clear and obvious abandonment or abuse, and it shouldn’t be paywalled behind hundreds of thousands in legal fees.

  • @Feetonthesand
    @Feetonthesand 29 днів тому

    Divorce only benefit a man and not the woman. She can apply for legal separation.

  • @c.m.9369
    @c.m.9369 11 місяців тому +7

    The church isn‘t about „love“.
    It‘s about control. Which is why everybody should think twice before they demand that religions should have more power over our laws!
    We KNOW that theocracies are horrible! But some people just don‘t want to learn.

    • @SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz
      @SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz 11 місяців тому

      depend on which Church you mean
      the false cult churches i would expect this , however the Real Church that has been called out of Ignorance isn't about that
      i would suggest doing some research before you post this again

    • @clarissamendoza8322
      @clarissamendoza8322 11 місяців тому

      The laws are based on values. That is our value. Until it isn't, these laws remain. Maybe in another 10 years. There are less religious persons in the Phil, much like the rest of the world. There's no political influence.
      Our body is not separate from our soul. When that happens, the person is usually dead. When a person separates his sould from his body while still breathing, he is basically a zombie.

    • @divorcephilippines6768
      @divorcephilippines6768 11 місяців тому

      they use the name of God and bible to manipulate the people in the Philippines so they can excuse the solution..they are suggesting annulment but they dont help even one peso

  • @susansolante6105
    @susansolante6105 11 місяців тому

    Yes to devorce,26 years na po akong hiwalay Bakit pahirapan pa pra ma free nah

  • @basharatahmadkhan4601
    @basharatahmadkhan4601 11 місяців тому +4

    Im waiting for the day when i will hear divorce is legalized in Philippines my gf is suffering so much with her husband as he used to beat her always , curse her , and now she has left him but unfortunately cant marry me. Which is deeply saddening

    • @colleenpeck6347
      @colleenpeck6347 11 місяців тому +1

      A devout Catholic marrying a Hindu Indian and live where?

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 11 місяців тому

      Let her renounce Filipino citizenship in favor of foreign one so, both of you could marry!

    • @basharatahmadkhan4601
      @basharatahmadkhan4601 11 місяців тому

      @@seikimachan but how would she be able to get India citizenship if she renounces Filipino citizenship im very patiently waiting for divorce to be legal in Philippines.

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 11 місяців тому

      @@basharatahmadkhan4601 Then she must live with you in India for few years. Just follow the laws there. If she becomes naturalized Indian and subsequently renounced her Filipino citizenship, she can for divorce in India so, she could marry you. The other party, his former husband, will file his petition for judicial recognition of foreign divorce to nullify their marriage.
      The process time of Judicial Recognition of Foreign Divorce is shorter than Annulment. Your woman must obtain a divorce paper and have it consularized in both Indian and Philippine Embassy before give it to his former husband. Be sure that she is already Indian citizen and no longer a Filipino.
      That's the only way for Filipinos to obtain divorce by renouncing their citizenship by birth in favor of obtaining any foreign citizenship.
      Disclaimer: This is based when I became a legal secretary in a law office about 11 years ago.

    • @basharatahmadkhan4601
      @basharatahmadkhan4601 11 місяців тому

      @@seikimachan unfortunately she cannot become an Indian citizen by the process of naturalization as she need to spent at least 7 years in India which is impossible on a tourist visa and a long stay visa can only be granted if she applies for the intention of marriage in the marriage registrar's office with me . Which she wont be able to as to do so she needs to get NOC from Filipino embassy and The Embassy wont give NOC cuz she is already in the married records of the country.

  • @mariagraciaalejandro1534
    @mariagraciaalejandro1534 10 місяців тому +1

    Very toxic law as Filipino I got Scammed 😢

    • @haiolis
      @haiolis 9 місяців тому

      Filipin should do revolution mental, ppls there should brave to speak up on media. Make it viral on social media, Let everyone in this world know, so that the government there is ashamed. If it goes viral, the government will definitely handle it quickly, trust me. That's how it works nowadays, if it goes viral, it will definitely be handled quickly

  • @anthonybautista4521
    @anthonybautista4521 10 місяців тому +1

    Yes to divorce bill

  • @davidthelen1457
    @davidthelen1457 5 місяців тому

    Here in the US you can be Catholic and be married and divorced 10 times if you want. Get real.

  • @tsf637
    @tsf637 11 місяців тому

    The Catholic Church does have an annulment process

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 11 місяців тому

      Church Annulment is nothing. The judiciary has the power to grant annulment.

  • @mamalouparker7880
    @mamalouparker7880 11 місяців тому

    Not all people in the Philippines are catholics so we need divorce law lot of couples are suffering from bad marriages.

  • @chriszenko3598
    @chriszenko3598 11 місяців тому

    My friend wanted to marry a Filipina who was abandoned by her husband They went to the church to try to get a annulment the priest refused my friend told me the Priest was as gay as the queen of diamonds.

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 11 місяців тому

      Your friend must file a petition for nullity of marriage before lower court

    • @jannarkiewicz633
      @jannarkiewicz633 11 місяців тому +1

      If you are in the U.S. it is straightforward. If the woman can get a tourist visa she can go to the U.S. and establish residency in Nevada (takes 6 weeks). She can legally file for divorce as a tourist provided she is planning on getting married to an American. Get divorced in Nevada then bingo, marry an American. I dated a Filipina lawyer -- who was married and she mapped it all out.

  • @josiediaz1351
    @josiediaz1351 6 місяців тому +1

    Dyan lang yata tayo magkakasundo sa Divorce law ipaglaban niyo yan!

  • @asianaticsworld9786
    @asianaticsworld9786 10 місяців тому +1

    There are several ways that are used in the Philippines. There is annulment, nullity of marriage and legal separation. The problem is, legislators should at least strengthen these laws. We can afford not to have divorce, but at least a semblance of it

    • @seikimachan
      @seikimachan 8 місяців тому +1

      The Catholic Church are keep meddling with this matter

  • @swedemartyrsonswade
    @swedemartyrsonswade 11 місяців тому

    This is the choice of the majority, People in the Philippines always voted for those people in SENATE specifically. Shout out to Sen. Villanueva, Who also drags the SOGIE bill passing. Eck. Hypocrisy at its finest.

  • @deesan2940
    @deesan2940 8 місяців тому

    Non catholic have divorce, so why catholic dont have divorce we are all Filipino citizen, annullment is unfair law we need to be free to our abusive relationship, we are the one suffering and cant move on.. we need 2nd chance to be love and to be happy and we dont want to live in a sin

  • @nitzvlogkuwait6956
    @nitzvlogkuwait6956 10 місяців тому +1

    Wala nman problema para SA may pera at maka afford SA annulment of marriage,Ang MGA mahirap walang justice ganun manahimik nalang

  • @2460z_htdja
    @2460z_htdja 21 день тому

    the bottom line is, S.X is necessary or essential for the society to survive, while Marriage is conventional but only given importance because of hypocritical in/doctrination. Marriage establishes order in the society and so has to regulate relationship including S.X, but marriage is not absolute across time and life. The point is, divorce is likewise necessary in order to give a formal exit to marriage (being conventional) when it does not work anymore or does undermine the welfare of any in the family. There is no need any more to prove about psychological incapacity, etc.; there is no more need to make a lie or pretensions anymore just to avail annulment in court. When marriage does not work anymore, it is done, unless both are willing to give it a second chance under a favorable circumstance. Further, divorce should not be as dramatic as annulment, for in divorce bill, psychological intervention is part of in the transition framework towards a re-energized life. Yes, there is fear/doubt in marriage as well as in divorce, and the success of someone's relationship does not justify the continued curse of someone else's life. The question of expenses or to the eternal vow of marriage is superficial against the primary necessity of S.X and happiness of each in the society.

  • @JohnLouieMalacad-jj7gz
    @JohnLouieMalacad-jj7gz 11 місяців тому +1

    Big yes to divorce bill kaylan pa now na

  • @josedesilencio8851
    @josedesilencio8851 11 місяців тому +3

    The Philippines is hypocrite on this issue.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому +2

      The Phillipines is a place. Marriage is an oath until death

    • @josedesilencio8851
      @josedesilencio8851 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SubvertTheState let me rephrase for your sake. The Filipinos are hypocrites on this issue." ✌️✌️

    • @haiolis
      @haiolis 9 місяців тому

      ​@@SubvertTheStateya let the husband beat her until the death lol. Poor mindset

  • @user-yb5wd1xx5e
    @user-yb5wd1xx5e 10 місяців тому

    😢

  • @Patryk9208
    @Patryk9208 11 місяців тому +2

    3:43-3:47 Not really. According to the Catholic Church, a marriage can be annulled in at least three cases, including not only death, but also serious lying about yourself. For example, when a husband knows that he cannot have children, he knows about it and he doesn't inform a woman about it, this marriage is often practically non-existent and can be annulled.

  • @brusdiywoodcraftsproject5198
    @brusdiywoodcraftsproject5198 11 місяців тому +2

    🌍Help us women to be free🇵🇭

    • @divorcephilippines6768
      @divorcephilippines6768 11 місяців тому +1

      Yah we really need help.we are so vulnerable..and here we are the victims.

  • @marimaricci
    @marimaricci 11 місяців тому

    And yet you pretend to believe that a man in a dress is a victim, and even worst, is a woman.

  • @eric7782
    @eric7782 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow. The Catholic church is moral. The Catholic church is the longest and one if the largest pagon religion in the world. Look st the record of the priests.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому +3

      Its "Pagan"

    • @pharcyde8083
      @pharcyde8083 11 місяців тому +1

      Fun fact: before the Spaniards brought Catholicism to the Philippines, Filipinos were pagans. So not a problem.

  • @Ionlyexistpardner.
    @Ionlyexistpardner. 11 місяців тому

    In the Philippines Mama's knows best for the daughter.

  • @salvacionpendergraft8207
    @salvacionpendergraft8207 7 місяців тому

    I support legalization of divorce because we can't afford Annulment.

  • @cabayern9416
    @cabayern9416 11 місяців тому

    Saudi women have the same issue.

    • @sayori265
      @sayori265 10 місяців тому +1

      No they dont

  • @luzvimindarobles4233
    @luzvimindarobles4233 2 місяці тому

    Separations is nothing if I can't marry again my x is had a new wife but im still can't marry again unfair

  • @Globalprospective
    @Globalprospective 11 місяців тому

    Why they Mary men they don’t want to be married to?

  • @uncrown03
    @uncrown03 9 місяців тому

    The Law of Human is "Money"

  • @tonixzmac8841
    @tonixzmac8841 11 місяців тому

    Religion only holds you back with limitations.

  • @elmarem4613
    @elmarem4613 10 місяців тому +1

    Yes to divorce

  • @novd4585
    @novd4585 11 місяців тому +1

    Is the philippines so superior or more morals compared with all the countries have divorce?

    • @billyjavier646
      @billyjavier646 11 місяців тому +2

      Nobody really talks about this in the philippines. I think because only few complains. Many just makes their marriage work.

    • @novd4585
      @novd4585 11 місяців тому +1

      @@billyjavier646 if so, good for them. How about others not?

    • @CyclingMartialartswithMusic
      @CyclingMartialartswithMusic 9 місяців тому

      ​@@billyjavier646its because marriage is not always about happiness. All couples even say that in their vows. If a person is not into fulfilling whatever they say on that vow dont marry.

  • @bernadethgonzales7796
    @bernadethgonzales7796 10 місяців тому +1

    Please divorce

  • @reggie2261
    @reggie2261 7 місяців тому

    The options is to point out the church short comings like sexual abuses committed so to lessen there moral correctness

  • @sunflower3668
    @sunflower3668 10 місяців тому +1

    Yes to divorce!!

  • @nitzvlogkuwait6956
    @nitzvlogkuwait6956 10 місяців тому

    Yong ayaw Ng divorce selfish, corrupt,dahil Hindi na Kikita Ang MGA lawyers

  • @garystewart3110
    @garystewart3110 11 місяців тому +3

    Well. She can come to America maybe 🤔

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому

      The US has owned the Phillipines since it took them from Spain and crushed the rebels into subjugation. America will turn the Phillipines into a decadent culture of selfish pleasure seeking drones soon enough.

    • @TheotherKirby
      @TheotherKirby 8 місяців тому +1

      Maybe but not everyone has the money to just go to America

  • @josephlgarcia5259
    @josephlgarcia5259 8 місяців тому

    Ipasa n ninyo po yn para matapos ang paghihirap ng mga niloloko ng kanila mga asawa .

  • @n.manasseh8615
    @n.manasseh8615 6 місяців тому

    Lets be honest: the problem is not divorce. The problem is marriage. It is an outdate ceremony that simply does not fit modern society. Thats why so many marriages fail. What constitutes a relationship and family in 2023 is totally different than what it was back in biblical days. GET rid of marriage and then there is no need for divorce. When the love ends you simply go your separate ways.

  • @timkahn2813
    @timkahn2813 11 місяців тому +2

    happiness is against catholic values.the pope needs to step up in this. and do the right thing. let theses women free.

    • @wamnicho
      @wamnicho 11 місяців тому

      Maybe they should keep their legs closed until they meet their dream husband

    • @RiderOftheNorth1968
      @RiderOftheNorth1968 11 місяців тому

      It is not only woman that are caught in bad marriages! Why do people only see from one side?

    • @CyclingMartialartswithMusic
      @CyclingMartialartswithMusic 9 місяців тому

      ​​​@@wamnichosuper agree. Take accountability ika nga.

  • @rose_ann2518
    @rose_ann2518 7 місяців тому

    Yes to divorce bill..go go 💯💯agree for divorce bill👌👌👌👊👊👊👍👍

  • @chintongboichin2944
    @chintongboichin2944 11 місяців тому

    What if she denounce her religion? Will the law still be imposed on her?

  • @natajean10
    @natajean10 11 місяців тому +4

    Isn’t this the place where passport bros are fleeing to? 😮

    • @M3ganwillslay
      @M3ganwillslay 11 місяців тому +4

      LoL yes to escape from manly leftover western women 😂

    • @natajean10
      @natajean10 11 місяців тому

      @@M3ganwillslay There is an epidemic of feminine men in the west. Now they are fleeing to the 🇵🇭

    • @M3ganwillslay
      @M3ganwillslay 11 місяців тому

      @@natajean10 feminine men don't come here .only manly men who wanna have a female come to PH . We pinays don't like western trans men

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 11 місяців тому

      ​@@natajean10 No the feminine men wouldnt survive in a traditional country. I can barely survive in feminist America. Im just saving money and will either die alone farming or move to another country. I dont care to spend time with jealous and selfish people.

  • @junaidjd7890
    @junaidjd7890 4 місяці тому

    Divorce is a humain right

  • @davidjones535
    @davidjones535 11 місяців тому

    Its the Church its the church its the church ITS THE CHURCH !

  • @luzvimindarobles4233
    @luzvimindarobles4233 2 місяці тому

    Religion nothing to do with abusive husband

  • @choserrafrowg6443
    @choserrafrowg6443 11 місяців тому

    I am a Filipino but I am not pro catholic,, why am I suffer just because I am not islam!

  • @hansolo8225
    @hansolo8225 11 місяців тому +6

    Don’t get married, if you’re not fully committed.

    • @DemPilafian
      @DemPilafian 11 місяців тому

      Yeah! What fun is religion if you can't use your religion to bash other people over the head? The best religions even throw disbelievers off the top of tall buildings.

    • @jeremytine
      @jeremytine 11 місяців тому +1

      Not upto you how other people conduct their personal lives... People can change.

    • @hansolo8225
      @hansolo8225 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jeremytine If you believe people can change then you should never enter into a lifetime contract.

    • @jeremytine
      @jeremytine 11 місяців тому +1

      @@hansolo8225 but it isn't necessarily for a lifetime, that is just your hangup. You do you and let other people live how they want to...

    • @jeremytine
      @jeremytine 11 місяців тому +1

      @@hansolo8225 Men not wanting divorces frequently stems from want to behave like aholes with no consequence or historically treating women like property. I see marriage as something that requires constant renewal and effort.