Should the Philippines legalize divorce? | Talk Back
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2019
- It's complicated, this whole talk about legalising divorce in the Philippines. On one side, you have those who claim it will lead to the destruction of the Filipino family. And on the other, are those who ask: What's there to preserve in an already broken relationship? Might as well, give the people another chance to heal and be with someone else who would foster love, not hate.
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I really like that both parties are soft-spoken. Much better to hear.
Not all marriages are as good as the others. Give chance to those who would like to try it again by giving them legal options. Life is just too short to waste it on someone who doesn’t deserve you. Someone who has cheated on you, someone who continues to disrespect you, someone who uses you and all other things.
Ur correct.
PERIODT
Agree yes to devorce law
That's why everyone should take marriage seriously before they get into it, because choosing a partner is a very dangerous thing.
God designed marriage according to his word. So God defines marriage not men. If everyone suffers from miserable marriage, there's no one to blame except those who choose to put themselves in that situation.
Many are product of their own bad decisions and poor choices in life. So we must face the consequence of every foolish decisions we make
@@calligraphersnote2481 actually, society defines marriage, this is why different societies have different definitions of it. Stop bringing your God in every conversation
This is why marriages fail. We try to so much to change the person that you think a piece of paper or responsibilities as a married person will change him or her. Even strangers like that lawyer want to intervene. People will only change if they face the consequences of their action. So far we dont have that kind of consequence in the Philippines. We only have annulment that is for the ELITES. many people nowadays just leave and never come back. Jump to another person’s house to start an illegitimate family. They are not being held responsible for their own legal families because there is no divorce. If there is no love. set them free. But you are still responsible for your children. That is the right thing to do. Lawful and just. Also, as I have quoted before, if God did not choose to change that person, why would the spouse, a stranger and the government force to do so? That is beyond our capabilities. Don’t force them dude. Divorce is the key
you are exactly right divorce should be legal there no one should be tied down in a marriage if they will just go to another house and start another relationship that's adultery right there why should the two spouses stay married when the other spouse has moved onto another relationship and also they're afraid this will break families up well who wants their children to suffer seeing the trauma of their mom and dad fighting all the time that's worse then a broken family imo im sure the kids will understand when they get older why their parents ended their marriage its time for the Philippines to just legalize it the pain and suffering of the families that have to go through all the trauma on a day to day basis falls on the laws in the phillipines for keeping them tied down with no escape whatsoever.
passing the bill for divorce does not equate to promoting the separation of married couple it is a just a mere option for those who desperately needs it. Not just because you were able to surpass the problems in a marriage does not mean that it is the same for others. Let us give the people the chance to be free, divorce is not the end of a good marriage, it is the end of a bad and toxic marriage instead
😂😂😂aabusuhin lang yan ng may mga pera pustahan pa tayo
He is not a lawmaker, better off as a pastor
The human psyche is so complex. Subjecting couples on a long drawn toxic relationship and think it will be magically fixed is delusional.
Well it's not just a human component no human in his own will be able to get through marriage without God. Kung mababaw paningin mo sa kasal then puchu pushing asawa lang din hanapin mo...hindi ka mag effort maging responsible
sana magkaroon na ng devorce naawa naako sa nanay ko simula pagkabata ko palang laging sinasaktan ng tatay ko si mama.. at si mama lang ang tumayong ama saamin kahit may work ang tatay ko at puro inum, paglalasing at pambababae lang ang ginagawa nya.. til now 25 naako may long relationship ako a isang babae at pati ako pinapakelaman na kesyo hindi daw ako sumubok ng ibang babae.. hindi nya maintindihan na ayaw ko maulit yung ginagawa nya kay mama.. sana magkaroon na ng divorce... dahil ang panama nya kay mama kasal sila at hindi sya pwede iwanan... mahirap sa katayuan ng nanay ko na kumawala sakanya
you are really right miss tanaka..thank you so much for supporting us..
Divorce bill is not for those happily marriage.
Is it not easy to understand?
Mababaliwala kasi ang annulment. Mawawalan ng kita.
I agree very true !! Why u should pursue , sacrifice marriage if ur not happy together,,
The point!!
It should be plz,,,,I'm separated 12 yrs ago ,, I hate using the family name of my EX,,his having aonther family while I'm remain alone,,want to marry again,,😊
The attorney speaks like a catholic bishop... Very archaic and unrealistic as if having been prodded to speak dogma. Samantalang yung girl speaks simple truth from the heart. Isnt this an issue of the state and not religion?
Agreed
That girl is a Die hard feminist. She is promoting the same failed ideologies that have trashed western women.
yep, catholic church parrot
1. May divorce po noong araw sa Philippines. When the Philippines gained independence from the USA, na repaso ang law due to the Catholic Church who lobbied against it.
2. Divorce still exists in the Philippines for Muslims and Lumads or local tribes.
3. Even Catholic nations, including Spain, who brought Catholicism to the Philippines allows Divorce in their country.
4. Divorce is allowed in the bible. “It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. Matthew 5:31-32
I think it’s great that some family can survive their rough patch but it’s not the same for everyone, that’s why having the option of divorce is important especially when there is emotional and physical abuse that can really damage a young child in the long run. You can still love your family even if you’re not living in the same roof with them.
Legalize na ung divorce para both maka move on na and start new life
Those you against the divorse bills are not suffering from their spouse.open your eyes. Not your big mouth.
hindi naman po namin pababayaan ang aming mga anak..ang sa amin lng hindi na namin kaya pang mahalin ang isat isa dahil nagkakasakitan lng at nagpapatayan nah..
tama mas responsible pa nga ang mga single mom hehehe
Ito yung hindi naiintindihan ng marami, just because separated ang parents 'di ibig sabihin "broken family" na. Both parents can involve themselves parin sa buhay ng bata kahit divorced na.
Its not complicated, its just that religious people has a hard time when it sinks in that other people doesn't have to conform to their personal beliefs.
There are no great arguments against it, all if not majority of it are religious based arguments w/c isn't suppose to be part of the conversation.
religion and beliefs has no part in legislation.
Divorce isn't the thing that destroys the family, the deterioration of the relationships in that family is the one who does the destroying.
Divorce is just the formality of them going their separate ways.. People who are against it are acting like divorce is the culprit.
Exactly! God Bless you sir!
It's not complicated, they only make it complicated for the fees, why catholic dont look into those livi-in without marriage right that's against religious law also
Divorce is a solution to intoxicating marriages.
Correct..
Ruberto, thank you!
Family is precious daw, yes it is, would it be still precious kung unhealthy na, ung iba matagal na hindi nag sasama. They just want to legalize ung hiwalayan and move on with the life a better life for both end. Simply lang din un give Filipinos the rights para maging malaya, masaya at mag move on sa bagay na hindi na umuubra ,mga ayaw sa divorce edi wag kayo mag divorce pero wag nyo din harangan ung bagay na mas makakapag pabuti sa sitwaston n katayuan ng sarili nila buhay
Agree!
Divorce is an essential human rights.
No
@@chiniiyayes. cry about it.
I grow up in dysfunctional home an alcoholic father and a controlling mother, there's not a day that I'm not wishing my parents will get separated, dysfunctional home destroy kids, if u want to raised a broken children stay in a toxic relationships.
Why continue what has been broken.?give someone another chance to live freely.
Bigyan ninyo ng pagkakataon kaming mga kababaihan na ilagay sa ayos ang aming pagkakamali. Mabigyan na sana ng tuldok ang aming paghihirap... huwag hayaang hanggang sa kabilang buhay dadalhin at pagsisihan namin ang kamaliang yon.. kong kaya naman baguhin sa pamamagitan ng pag approba sa divorce bill.
Yes to divorce!!!
CHURCH AND STATE SHOULD BE SEPARATED, LEGALIZE DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*the separation of the Church and State shall be inviolable
Hindi ako Pro divorce pero dito sa pilipinas hindi lang naman Catholic ang religion sa pilipinas. May mga Muslims and Buddhism din dito.
That will never happen
It is separated but the problem is the church power hasn't fully diminished into a minimal level.
I'm fine with the Divorce law. However, it should be strictly enforced and regulated to prevent or reduce abuse with regards to its usage.
Divorce is a human right . Don’t force people to stay in a toxic marriage . Give people a chance, a choice . Freedom . Give Filipinos divorce , the rights to choose . Yes to divorce.
Yes to divorce and lgbtq rights. Narrow and limited scope of the law hinders us from moving forward. Marriage is sacred union BUT... there’s many buts and sometimes the only solution is to go seperate ways. Don’t condemn people to be stucked to a relationship thats not working anymore, condemnation will come after this earth, and our merciful God will understand.
I think in a broader view, if Divorce will be legal, many couples will take relationships in a cheaper value. In return, more families will be broken.. family is very important, family is the one who raises a child and has a greater impact on an adult. Broken family has a factor in a person's depression. I get the point of Attorney. He has a broader view. Legality of Divorce has a great impact in country in the long term. 🙂 It's my own opinion.
A family isnt bound by a husband and a wife living in one roof that continuously fight. A child living with both parents in a toxic environment is worse than living with a single parent who is at peace. There is divorce in other countries but do you think they value relationship less? Muslim countries have divorce but their divorce rate is low. Many people will still choose to do the right thing even the bad thing in their marriages with or without divorce. Let’s not put the blame on divorce itself. Divorce is there to protect those who are no longer in a healthy marriage. There should be a legal and amicable way to end it
There are already plenty of families that are broken, they view it as just married on paper.
Gusto lang nila ma legalize yung divorce para makapag asawa ulit.
Divorce law remains strict but only give more reasonable grounds to end toxic marriage.
Hear! Look what is happening in the USA.
Why does the church always dip their fingers on country's legislations. Divorce is not the cause of disturbed marriages in the first place, divorce is one of the choices of the poor people inside defective marriages who cant afford annulment that is so expensive
Argument of saving a family which couldnt make it anymore is really a hard... Considering a lot.. huge things like lack of finances, dried love, abusement & brutality..But to choose a divorse wher we can hav a chance to live happy life again & freedom havnt effect a bad results...A bad experienced or previous rel. S enough 2 change & a chance 2 be a better persOn..we live for happiness not 2 b suffocated n everydays life..
When people divorce, it’s always such a tragedy. At the same time, if people stay together it can be even worse.
Family is precious kung nagkakasundo sila at may respeto pa sa isat isa, paanu na ang mga binubugbog na mga asawa at mentally inaabuso , paanu na!! Nasan ang precious dun!!
Yan talaga yung husband pag siya Ang mag aabuso e ikulong takot naman sila Kay tulfo. Meron na ng kaso na napahiya pa sa buong pilipinas di ba!kaya nga maring pilipino na tinatakpan Ang kanilang mukha pag nasa social media sila lumabas.
They're so calm.
The answer to the question is: YES! The purpose of marriage is til death do us part, but it's often a spiritual/religious covenant. The Bible covers instances where a follower of God must let a spouse who doesn't believe go if the unbeliever wants to leave. Aside from that, the Bible isn't against divorce. Divorce itself isn't a sin, but sinning can lead to divorce and depending on the circumstances of the divorce the biblical response to the divorce might be sinful if you decide to get remarried. It's a case by case basis, but this being an issue still up for debate in the Phillipines shows that lawmakers there aren't making Biblically based laws. God is at peace with divorce in particular cases. The main reason for it being allowed Biblically was the safety of the woman. Remember that.
Will God let divorce for adultery?
@@ryokohonda4619 ongoing adultery. If your partner has no repentance of doing such act and no willingness to start new life again.
@@calligraphersnote2481 I read in Matthew 19 Jesus permits divorce for adultery
We need devorce here in Philippines ,how can fixed and preserve the marriage when it is damaged already and you had a misserable life to your partner, its better we had devorce to give a new life to those people who cannot afford to file annualment liked us ordinary people who are not rich...
Divorce debate in the Philippines is equivalent to collectivism vs individualism
Am a religious people am pro life am a catholic but i understand those people who push devoice this guy is againts on others personal preference on how they want there life to be happy give people freedom of choice buy granting this bill to be pass.
7:50 we want them to change daw. Pano nga kung taon taon na lumipas na hindi na sila nag sasama na mas maayos na buhay nila na magka hiwalay nasan ung we want then to change dun. I think the guy is only looking at a couple na nagkaka labuan lang na pwde pa ayusin. Wala sya idea o alam na may mas malala at mabigat pang dhilan kaya gusto mag divorce ng mag asawa
Opo, not everyone changes
Both individuals gave extraordinary explanation. They literally convinced me through their arguments, none of them were right nor wrong, it's a matter of fact that we all have different perspectives in life.
I am 16 years separated..nasa akin limang anak Qo without a support of my husband... Agree aq sa divorce law ..
Go to devorce bill in Philippines
Who are you sir to define and decide whats best for us. Open your eyes.
I agree. Selfish at the very least.
Kung ayaw ng mga catolico ng divorce gawin na lang na ang divorce law ay applicable sa mga hindi ikinasal sa simbahan. Pag kinasal ka sa simbahan walang divorce 🤣🤣 kasi pinagpipilitan nyo yung mga catolic values nyo eh, hindi naman lahat ng kinasal religious, gusto lang nila maging legal at kung hindi na talaga mag work ang marriage eh di choice nila yun na maghiwalay kung hindi talaga maayos at magkasundo.
@@hoaxtalgia2185 dictator simbahan at sinu bang nag rrally against government at cla nga mga pari pa iba ibang babae kita nman sa mga blita.
@@MariaFe1976 true
I agreed with that....
I know po like my teacher said to me last year divorced is not only for catholic people but also on the other that have been on marriage or married already. So why do we need a fight against our religion beliefs na halos ito na ang ikawasak ng bansa like the history bakit may nagaaway? Because they belief in different beliefs gods cultures so thats why empathy is the key based on my experience also im a child of that like sometimes they have argument between them but they have really strong relationship because of empathy.
You talk as if you dislike worshipping God, our creator. That's a bit creepy you know. Our Faith should always be strong. But, I find your suggestions very clever. I think it's a good thing. Allow Divorce if not married in church.
I think they should just legalize it tbh yeah i get they're afraid this will break many families up but at the same time if the husband is abusive or vice versa why would you want their kids to see that at such a young age and keep them trapped in a toxic marriage with no way out of the marriage its pointless if you ask me annulment is expensive af and nt many can afford it if they don't wanna make divorce legal at least make annulments affordable and more simple to get
As we see the video divorce is seen with its benefits and disadvantages. The assumed benefit of it is for the spouses who were abused which in connection negatively affects the children's mental, emotional, social, may or may be not physical wellness as well.
In this view it really seems to be beneficial to a considerably good amount of people BUT not for all of us Filipinos. We have to take note that releasing such privilege, "the easy way out" to people also means that many will abuse this as the lawyer had mentioned. Furthermore, this will encourage many to quit marriage at the first light of conflict or disagreement.
Moreover, just as verbal abuse are detrimental to a child's development so is the lack of either maternal or paternal figure equally damaging to their child/children.
What is divorce teaching our children? To quit when it is tough. That marriage is scary and one might think it is bad.
What are the possibile outcomes of these? One might say " Oh I would love to have marry someone a have a better relationship unlike my parents OR one could say ," I have trust issues now. I am afraid to commitment so I will just be in a live-in relationship with someone. In other words an, "easy way out" again. And if relationships and families are built in a fragile foundation and beliefs like this whats to expect but more broken families, more broken heart, or children become confused of who they are because the parents cannot guide them properly due to their unstable relationships. I am speaking in general for our Filipino society.
Marrying someone means:
1. You chose to accept the entire person as they are considering there will be things you do not know about them or you know just enough that know within yourselves that you ate able to get along. Otherwise known as, unconditional love... warts and all.
2. Marriage teaches resilience, endurance, and creativity towards conflicts and problems. This does not mean I am encouraging women or men to allow their husbands or wives to punch them or abuse them in anyway. I would actually advice then to sue that abusive spouse and get them to rehabilitation RATHER than pushing them to divorce immediately.
3. Marriage is the beginning I'd the formation of the basic unit of our society, family. Familes build are nation.
Marriage is a serious matter. Think hard before starting or ending one.
Kana Takahashi is cringing! Love her responses!
nakakatawa naman si Atty.I feel your smile girl.go for it.may annulment,lahat ba nagfafile ng annulment atty?so what's the dif bet annulment and divorce,except divorce is much cheaper.yung mga mahihirap na naghihiwlay khit may divorce law atty.still,they cannot afford it kse,uunahin yung mkkain.
Hypocrisy
yes please
Nobody can force a family to stay together-even outsiders. Just because we're resilient Filipinos doesn't mean we must endure the damaging effects of a toxic family.
We must do something to STOP it. Not ENDURE it.
Absolutely!! it's a must let's not be ignorant
Divorce is #essential human rights. Correctiveness to relationship that is already destroyed.
That “okay boomer” eye rolls of Kana😅
What is your percentage on that but what about those who are suffering from marriage which can no longer be fix.
Legalize divorce but don't commercialise divorce business like USA did .
Yes , katagal pa ipsa na yan ng matapos na ang pghihirap..dun sa mga against mahiya kyo mgsabi no dh wla kyo sa sitwasyon.
people who oppose divorce to be legalized here in the Philippines are just protecting their own interest.
oh common atty!!! how about the battered wife who cant afford annulment!
Ofc
ok so around 10:00 the atty invoked "god's blessing" god or your religion should not be a factor in terms of making laws, solving societal problems and actions that affect the masses, the reason being is because not everyone shares your belief and it would be unfair and immoral for the country the church or even for god to force other people to believe what you believe because you believe it.
Repercussions? Did u the church people thought about it with regards to annulment
Di na talaga nakakatuwa yang mga comment ng abogado. I’d rather have two families who are very loving than one “complete family” na puro naman away. Kunwari masaya sa harap ng iba pero bago kayo matulog puro bangayan maririnig. I seriously just want to vomit.
It's about giving people choices
We need couples to survive by mean of getting out of their situation..conflict indeed may resolved but if ur in abusive relationship , surrender is an option.. give chance to those who need to escape on the situation they are in right now. make it more accessible to everyone and not spending too much time to start over again .. everyone needs to be happy . As they said.. family is a basic unit if the society, how would you keep up a family if 2 people engaging to much hate and violence, pls make divorce happen.. this is really timely and relevant now days
I side with attorney. My parents too did not give up despite challenges. Hope and Love runs deep. Divorce destroy the smallest unit of government. THE FAMILY!
I’m glad that it worked out for you and your family but not all of us have that ending especially if you are in a toxic family that has physical and emotional abuse.
Doesn't mean it work for you it should be good for the Society. We talking about the Countries Family here not your "FAMILY".
Atty. Madali lang po sa inyo yang mga sinasabi mo kc d mo naranasan ang mga naranasan namin. Puro ka need i fix and stick to your marriage eh d na nga Kaya i fix eh. Gaya namin na pinahirapan ng aming partner, gaya namin na nagtitiis sa pananakit ng aming partner, panu naman kami? Talagang habangbuhay nalang kami magtitiis? Dahil dapat talaga mag sama habangbuhay ang mag asawa? 😕
My parents. Are still together but it is parents desicion and i'm happy because that's their choice . After going through years if suffering and abuse in mines.
what is wrong with u attorney.. give chance poor people.annalment is for rich people.minsan ang love bale wala sa mga mayayaman dahil kayang kaya nila mag bayad ng annalment..paano naman kaming mga mahirap.. kung ayaw mo ng divorse gawin munang 1billion ang bayad sa annalment.
Dyan kasi sila kumikita. Kaya ayaw ng divorce. Haha
shinagawa nilang negosyo ang annulment hehehe kailangan
The should allow it, anywhere ... even in the Philippines God is Love, but when the love is gone ...Divorce is not something you want, not for you and not for any children... but sometimes it is necessary, necessary to get a life again, peace, security, a second chance at happiness and a future for the children... make it possible, it's about time to change to the needs, the need it there ...
I think its okay with divorce however, the process should be harder in getting a divorce and it should be investigated first, requiring a solid reason that is acceptable. Also not everyone is able to honor their pledges and vows, just because you have faith it will work in the name of God, doesn't mean it is happy or healthy. Sooo to the drain with your values.
It's already written in the bill. The reason or ground should be proved first.
He talks the truth, Philippines is know and respected for their values. if they legalize divorce they are just no different.
I think the guy is trolling. His expression deemed it so
Kana is right
Congratulations, Atty Salumbides! You not only know Philippine law but know and practice as well as the sacrament of Marriage. Fight the good fight of faith!
Marriage is a decision and not all decisions are right. No one in this world deserve to suffer for a person whom you trusted and yet does not love and respect you back. Children are victims of the consequences but both parties can create arrangement for the welfare and well being of their children.
If the constitution values families, then let the construction allow the families (all Filipinos) to speak for themselves.
We all deserves a second chance. You can't stay forever in a very toxic marriage just for the sake of the kids.
2:45
Well then how come 9 out of 10 mothers in that country is single. They can't work because they have kids and husband is gone.
open your eyesto those people who supper attorney salumbides
You should include the domestic violence not just on the part of the women and children...let's be all fair, men also experiences domestic violence
Philippines is totally different from Vatican
Indeed
Yup
Oh my god if they want to marry xxx times thats their problem as long a sthey can afford to have as many wifes as they want now if you are a female looking for a partner u will take too much precaution this time before getting marry!!! Repercussion wth !!!!
Ignorance of God's word was the root problem.. If we only try to read and understand it, all our crazy questions in life about a certain matter will have a solid answer.. It promotes love and peace for every one in every situations.. Claiming that we're a Christian country.. then we should prove it by solving this prob. In a Christian way..
God does permit divorce when it comes to cheating or when the spouse is an unbeliever. But you're right people can always pray to God and compromise to help their marriage work
8:35
there is a problem in annulment and divorce.
If you are in my shoe that doesn't want even to see the man I married before then you can understand why I need divorce. Bakit gusto nyong ipagpilitan Ang mga bagay n hindi n pede at puro hatred nlang ang nangingibabaw sa family.
I say YES to Divorce!
Module bought me here
9:20 aytt ayttt
Mas uunahin pa ba ang values kung mamatay matay kanna pambubogbog nga asawa mo? Let other people get out of toxic marriages. Let them move on.
VAWC po.
"till death do as part", remember the vows.
If we can just do this interview in Filipino.
We are Philippinos are facing reality now not hope and pray alot of divorce advocates already died hoping that things will change and give us the chance to begin again
Why not make the annulment cheaper
Attorney kung kaya b mgpaannul ng mga mhihirap n tulad ko mghahAngad paba km ng divorce.my pera ka lng attorney.slmt
# Yes to Divorce law now
Attorney wag mo na palitin ang isang relation na hindi na pwede magbalikan lalo na may iba ng pamilya ,at ang annullment of marriage sobra mahal paano ang mahihirap na hindi kaya magbayad
Atty broken already they have their own families they just want legality you still want to restored that???? How u gonna restored that????This bill are for those people who really need it wth hypocrite to the max
I believe attorney has been defeated when he mentioned the"god" card
And to add, againts yung atty sa divorce, pero pag may lalapit sayong mag pa annul im sure tatrabahuhin mo, kaya agree ako sa mga comments dito na againts ka kasi nga talagang kumikita kayo ng malaki sa annulment, unfair , may pera lang puedeng makalaya sa toxic na marriage? Ganun ba kawalang puso ang hustisya?
Absolutely right!
Ok If you dont want divorce Attorney , all Lawyers should offer free of charge for annullment services so that even poor people can apply for it , as simple as that , ewan ko na lng kung ipilit nyo pa na wala dapat divorce ha ! Ha !Ha , 👌
It's not complicated since every single person has evil in their hearts. It's as simple as reading the instructions on a paper. People just skip it thinking that they know enough to understand the situation. Instead, they make matters worse by opening a can of worms.
Yes it should be legalize its century of equality ....Most marital problem will come out during marriage and not before marriage. Annulment is ONLY FOR those who could afford the expensive process..DIVORCE IS A CERTAIN RIGHTS FOR THOSE WHO NEEDS IT