I played Death Stranding a couple of years ago for the first time, and whenever I get asked to deliver some pizza pies across a deserted landscape, I always play the pizza delivery music from this game. That's how iconic the Spider-Man 2 video game is to me.
@@jinxx3744 It’s kind of an anti-video game, to put it simply. Very repetitive tasks, with upgrades only making doing said tasks slightly less arduous. There is a story reason for it, and the premise is intriguing, but you’ve really gotta be in the right mind set for it. It’s definitely not a game for everyone, but there are some good qualities about Death Stranding.
In regards to the ragdolls, there's a glitch where, if you activate a race challenge, turn on spider reflexes, and get hit by the train, you will soar across the entire map. It's one of the funniest glitches in video game history. Slyfincleton has a vide of it on his channel showing how to do it.
A similar glitch happened to me when I was fighting Rhino. Turn on spider reflexes dodge his attack while swinging and counter him while you dodge everything including Spider-Man goes slow motion and after you hit him you’ll go high in the sky. If you go high enough you’ll fail the mission. One of the best glitches I’ve seen.
I think for me Insomniac nailed the swinging when they added the swing assist feature. Putting that down to zero really gave the best of both the first game and the old Spider-Man 2. It feels realistic and challenging while also looking good. I went the whole game using it and I still make slight errors with it light getting too greedy and swinging too late and hitting the ground or I end up swinging into a building, slowing me down.
Not gonna lie, seeing how high Peter bounces after max jumping off the Empire State Building is one fondest memories. That, and piledriving enemies from the same height.
OMG THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one that would get peeved when someone would say that Arkham Asylum to inspiration from this game for its combat system. They are completely different.
I wouldn't say no to a touched up remake of all three Raimi tie-in games. A uniform, but not necessarily "realistic" art style; the simpler polygonal counts on models, but with better facial animation; the swinging from 2 in all three; the gangs from 3: some of the insane difficulty spikes (especially from 1: stupid chases and Super Mech) maybe buffered slightly, providing a better balance between "fun" and "challenge". While 3 was pretty rough, it had solid elements, like swapping suits in the Wii version. And, being able to stop civilians from doing dangerous/petty things. People driving angry again, or fighting, or whatever.
Ngl as fun as races can be I kinda just see them as mindless additional content for open world games and while I do think they give a good opportunity to really test the movement capabilities of characters and explore parts of the map I'd be lying if I said I missed them and want games to have more of them. If they're just fully optional activities for people to do solely for fun and not completion then cool, but otherwise I feel the same rush can be gained from something like community made races following certain routes.
Game was my therapy after a long day of being bullied. Nothing was more satisfying than beating the crap out of thugs! I’ll always remember this game as a treasured possession that got me through the tough times!
When I was gifted this game by my grandparents for my 10th birthday, it felt as though Prometheus gave me fire. I was so amazed that I made the mistake of being moth to the flamed into playing it after coming home from school one day, ditching my homework to do so and got in trouble for it. It was that compelling. Being able to just soar across the city via web swinging or pretend to Hulk across rooftops from charged jumps alone were the best forms of freedom I could get back then. The missions made me feel like I was properly being Spider-Man, as opposed to what was going on in the first game, fighting Rhino for the first time was worrying for me. I remember having to hide on the rooftops and try to figure out how to beat him (just suck it up and dodge him, you pansy!) and exploring the city was an adventure in and of itself! Black Cat was a drop dead stunner and her missions made me feel confident just off having an ally that wouldn't die, alone! You didn't talk about postgame features but there really is some fun to be had afterwards. Even if the "Collect 50,000 points" mission is somewhat pointless, it is nice to just spend more time in this world, earn all upgrades, challenge oneself with the pizza missions and the unlockable fight arena is a blast, too! And OH MY GOD, WHY ARE THERE RAPTOR LOOKING LIZARD GOONS IN SAID ARENA?!?! (There's even a secret boss if you progress hard enough!) I've noticed you're just a little bit down bad for Black Cat (just a little bit), so I'm going to leave you with this knowledge: Her VA has a scene in some show or movie where, uh...let's just say she doesn't need the costume to top off one's web fluid supply. (A bit of light Googling would provide context) ;) But overall, great retrospective and accurate summarisation of what makes this game great!
Okay no joke I don’t know if this is UA-cam’s compression on videos but whenever I see Spider-Man 2 for the PS2 gameplay I literally lose sight of where Spidey is when he’s swinging really fast. Idk if this is just me or UA-cam or the actual game.
This game is such a blast! I didnt get to play until a year or 2 ago and was taken aback by just how much fun it is. Swinging is tied with Web of Shadows as my personal favorite
Regarding the Web-swinging of Insomniac's SM2, am I the only who thinks that sometimes the physics of the games just suddenly and randomly slows you down. An example is when youre using the wind tunnels. When your going at a crazy fast speed and enter the wind tunnels, you'll slow down or sometimes when you do point launches, you also suddenly lost momentum. I think that the game is also favors in giving you upward momentum compared to giving you forward momentum. Even when doing a dive bomb, the physics is more willing to give you more upward momentum compared to forward momentum
Occasionally but I’m pretty sure the point launches is if you miss the perfect point launch when going at REALLY high or relatively high speed If it’s not a perfect point launch you’ll lose some speed
"Visuals are where the game ages most" Yeah...I remember thinking in like, 2006 that it looked bad lol. The character models anyway, I think the buildings are beautiful though, and everything else.
The same redditors on the spectrum who defended a decade of Activision garbage? Definitely. New SM games are fine, but they're spoonfed to the player, no physics, no momentum combos with freeflow wallrunning and swinging, too floaty, too easy. Toothless. Perfect for Redditors.
Lol that title "Spider-Man 2 (the good one) - 20 years later" before he changed it. I honestly can't wait for IG to drop Marvel after X-Men and a lesser developer attempts another SM game and then people crawl back begging for IG to make one again or some shit not knowing how good they actually had it.
This was my favorite game when I was a kid... now once i get to the final mission I just quit and call it because the difficulty of turning off that damn machine makes me want to punch the nearest person. I don't want games to be that difficult as an adult. I wanna relax after work not get an aneurysm from getting so pissed off at the difficulty of doing a task that for some reason I had no issue doing as a child.
When I played this as a kid I always ran in front of the train just for the ragdoll physics. Plus I tried to perfectly land from the Empire State Building in a way that Peter fell with ragdoll physics. Needed him to hit one ledge while not landing properly it was the best.
Just like with Rainbow Six Siege this is a game I still constantly comeback to, one for nostalgia. And two because I still think the swinging is so much fun
I don't always agree with Aqua, but this is one of the times i disagree with him on a spiderman game. I personally always preferred USM and the first movie game to SM2, including the swinging, especially with USM. SM2 just doesn't feel as good as i feel like everyone says. Combat doesn't feel great, swinging is too loose, wall crawling is a nightmare, but it did change the way people saw and made Spider-Man games and i will always and forever be grateful for that
Loved this Game. Had It on the Xbox Original. I remember seeing the first few Images of It In a Gaming Magazine and being amazed We could finally go down In the Streets! Got this Game when It came out and had a blast all the way through. Loved this and the 2002 Movie Game. A shame the Spider-Man 3 Game was such a disastrous, disappointing, dumpsterfire of a Game.
i think one of the more under discussed problems with SM2 PS2's swinging is when you finally get all the speed upgrades; it becomes WAY too easier to build speed you can infinitely spam L2 pretty much to get this arbitrary sudden burst of speed so that any mistakes the player makes can be mostly negated by just spamming it for a few speeds and go to 200mph near instantly SM2 PS5 does this a lot better because it's a lot harder to cheese the game like that and you have to earn your speed a lot more. yes SM2 PS2 has the more difficult hardcore swinging physics (i've put hundreds of hours in both of these games at this point) but what SM2 PS5 does better is encourage the player to build your swinging speed to a fine cadence through multiple ways: dive bombing, loop de loops, the jump and dash skills (i'm aware they're also sudden speed boosts like in SM2 PS2 but they're much harder to spam and they're on way longer cooldowns), point launching, slingshots, corner tethers, etc. in SM2 PS2 the only *real* way to get speed is through the boost mechanic and that's pretty much it. SM2 PS5 is a clear evolution over that and it's why I prefer it overall also the web zip in SM2 PS2 sucks ass in comparison when it stops your momentum for no reason
The two combat systems are fundamentally different. Arkham Rewards rhythm and strategically hitting certain enemies. Spider-Man offers more room for individual expression in what moves you use and how
I have to be honest, I prefer the combat and swinging of not only this game, but other Spider-Man titles over the Insomniac games. I just love the momentum and speed of web swinging and slamming thugs back-and-forth like a ragdoll, or jackhammer kicking them in the air. Also, nice to see Ultimate Spider-Man getting some love! P.S. I would love it if we saw a live-action Rhino that used this game's design as a basis.
Unpopular opinion, but I still say Spider man 3 for next gen had the best web swinging. It had the perfect balance of being physics based requiring plenty of skill and cinematic enough to where you can enjoy it and flow beautifully with style through the city without inevitably slamming into a wall every few seconds. Plus I love the fluid animations and how acrobat tricks this time around can be used to manipulate how much momentum you have while web swinging, swinging off traffic lights, flying in the air or jumping off walls. Of course the tutorial in game doesn't tell you how to pull off these tricks and tips or how to use these things to your advantage. This stuff is all learned through hours of gameplay. Unfortunately Sm3's swinging goes easily overlooked since most people who play it, tend to just do whatever to beat the game and be done with it entirely.
Masterful work on the title of the video. You both get clicks from people wanting to figure out what you mean and an active comment section full of idiots arguing whether the "old" (no one tell them about Enter Electro) Spider-man 2 and Insomniac's Spider-man 2 is superior.
I often find that you can get really close to the ground when you swing in Spider-Man 2. But in Insom’s Spider-Man 2, the amount of times I’ve swung in a similar arc only to have the animation force a character’s limb to hit a van or the road, is SO annoying. And it feels less like my error and more like I’m fighting with the game. Like the animation gives the character a different gravity that I couldn’t properly account for. Still fun but aggravating nonetheless.
bro if this game never came out & was a success, arkham wouldnt be what it was atleast at the time it came out. if you've played both it's literally common sense
Eh Arkham Asylum would've still come out because it isn't a fully open world game City I would agree since Spider-Man 2 was the first superhero game to nail an open world setting. There have been games that attempted open settings before like the Batman and Robin tie-in but it's so clearly ruined by the limitations of the PS1
Have you tried the swinging with the swing assist options turned off. It’s a lot more fun if you liked the swinging of the 2004 game. Still not exactly the same since with the 2004 game you could sling shot your self and do other tricks because of how good the physics was. Although the new game with swing assist set to 0 is not bad. At first I was smashing myself into the pavement because its harder to get off the ground.
It's not a matter of turning off swing assist. The swinging gets boring in SM2 2023. Especially since the swing button is the same button as running on a while. Doesn't take as much skill
@@ethanb3653 90% of the hate is red pilled garbage takes that are mostly disingenuous to what the game was going for. It’s a 7/10 at best and they all treat it like it’s a 2/10
Spider-Man 2, Ultimate and Web of Shadows have the best swinging imo. Marvel's Spider-Man 1 & 2 was fun at the beginning but got boring pretty fast. Swinging doesn't feel rewarding anymore in modern Spider-Man's.
4:50 Ok what ? Leaning AWAY from Raggdoll physics is more sophisticated? Isn’t it the exact opposite !? Raggdoll physics IS THE BEST When done Right like in This Game your reviewing and Halo2
I’m not sure why ppl would say it inspired Arkham , Ik spider-man 3 was originally more like Arkham but they lost the guy that was doing the combat system so it was scrapped.
Spider-Man 3 also literally has a mechanic that's a precursor to detective mode. USM is what I'd call an Arkham precursor because moving your analog stick to an enemy during combat will have Spidey automatically zip to that enemy
Almost every Spider-Man game can be considered good except SM3, Edge of Time and TASM 1/2. Neversoft PS1 Spider-Man games, SM1 Treyarch, SM2, Ultimate, Web of Shadows, Shattered Dimensions, even TASM 1 was somewhat okay.
@@T02F20 I played it on the 3DS, it had a good story but it was 4 hours long, very repetitive and quite annoying by the end. It would’ve been better as a movie.
@@T02F20 I think that the game is a better experience watched online as a game movie with all cutscenes because the combat is a bit tedious. I actually quite liked The Amazing Spider-Man 2 at the time, even though it was quite mediocre. It had fun swinging and combat, decent suits and decent stealth missions.
I have no problem with the The Raimi spider man 2 i just find it annoying how its fans will always try to invalidate everything the new games do for the SWINGING it shows a lack of critical thinking and just Or even basic empathy Yes congratulations you have more skill based swinging in your game we have better combat. Voice acting and Graphics. But then they get offended that anyone dare say their games aren’t the best
Yea, Spider-Man fans aren’t exactly the most mature bunch. Half the problem is that they kind of have a point, the swinging really is quite good in the old SM2, but you’re right, it doesn’t invalidate someone’s preference and just because it takes more skill doesn’t make it inherently better
I prefer the swinging/traversal in this over the Marvel's Spider-Man games, because it's more challenging. The traversal in the newer games LOOKS cool, but it feels much more satisfying to pull stuff off in Spider-Man 2 The Movie Game.
imo it feels ALOT better to play the marvel game tbh not only does it look alot better. swinging is very challenging to make it look good and keep the flow going, where og sm2 is alot more "basic" and less feature rich
@@OhFicial67 its artificial. its still not momentum based, and can be mastered in a day or 2. web wings circumvent any possible challenge, theres no real fall damage, and half of the shit i could do in games from over a decade ago i cant do in the new game
its lowkey true. the old one is great for its time and the standards it has. it knows what it was trying to accomplish and achieved that. the new one feels like they stopped caring half way through and just added anything they thought would be cool without thinking first
Spider-Man 3 is really good. * Dodges bullets and flaming pitchforks * The PSP one, I mean. It's basically 2's graphics and gameplay but with 3's story. 2 on PSP was unfortunately not as good because it lacks the big open world
Spider-Man 2 didn't have the open world because the PSP at the time was new so devs were figuring out how to work with the hardware(I think SM2 was even one of the launch titles) It wasn't till late 2005 that we started seeing more ambitious titles on the console
“Speaking of gooning” took me out
Yeah that one caught me off guard
What's gooning mean
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Oh you sweet summer child
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn It's like blowing your load
@@NadeemShekh-uy9znyou'll find out soon enough
"as stiff as me when black cat shows up" i cant bro, that had me dying
I played Death Stranding a couple of years ago for the first time, and whenever I get asked to deliver some pizza pies across a deserted landscape, I always play the pizza delivery music from this game. That's how iconic the Spider-Man 2 video game is to me.
Is DS worth it? I enjoy linear story game and have a PS5 so I'm looking for more games
@@jinxx3744 It’s kind of an anti-video game, to put it simply. Very repetitive tasks, with upgrades only making doing said tasks slightly less arduous. There is a story reason for it, and the premise is intriguing, but you’ve really gotta be in the right mind set for it. It’s definitely not a game for everyone, but there are some good qualities about Death Stranding.
It’s a real song you baboon.
Funiculì, Funiculà
It’s Spotified, boyyyy
In regards to the ragdolls, there's a glitch where, if you activate a race challenge, turn on spider reflexes, and get hit by the train, you will soar across the entire map. It's one of the funniest glitches in video game history. Slyfincleton has a vide of it on his channel showing how to do it.
A similar glitch happened to me when I was fighting Rhino. Turn on spider reflexes dodge his attack while swinging and counter him while you dodge everything including Spider-Man goes slow motion and after you hit him you’ll go high in the sky. If you go high enough you’ll fail the mission. One of the best glitches I’ve seen.
Has GTA IV swings energy.
I think for me Insomniac nailed the swinging when they added the swing assist feature. Putting that down to zero really gave the best of both the first game and the old Spider-Man 2. It feels realistic and challenging while also looking good. I went the whole game using it and I still make slight errors with it light getting too greedy and swinging too late and hitting the ground or I end up swinging into a building, slowing me down.
"Speaking of gooning, the missions with black cat-" LMAO
LMFAO
7:56 egregious stray, absolutely diabolical
Choosing violence today
James Franco's replacement is Josh Keaton aka Spectacular Spidey who recorded his lines as Spidey for the first Raimi tie-in
Not gonna lie, seeing how high Peter bounces after max jumping off the Empire State Building is one fondest memories. That, and piledriving enemies from the same height.
“Speaking of gooning” yeah… i remember that 😂
OMG THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one that would get peeved when someone would say that Arkham Asylum to inspiration from this game for its combat system. They are completely different.
"YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE, MAKE YOUR TIME."
-Mysterio, 2004
Doing pile drivers, and throwing goons off rooftops were hilarious! My favorite memories of this game as a kid.
I wouldn't say no to a touched up remake of all three Raimi tie-in games. A uniform, but not necessarily "realistic" art style; the simpler polygonal counts on models, but with better facial animation; the swinging from 2 in all three; the gangs from 3: some of the insane difficulty spikes (especially from 1: stupid chases and Super Mech) maybe buffered slightly, providing a better balance between "fun" and "challenge". While 3 was pretty rough, it had solid elements, like swapping suits in the Wii version.
And, being able to stop civilians from doing dangerous/petty things. People driving angry again, or fighting, or whatever.
Ngl as fun as races can be I kinda just see them as mindless additional content for open world games and while I do think they give a good opportunity to really test the movement capabilities of characters and explore parts of the map I'd be lying if I said I missed them and want games to have more of them.
If they're just fully optional activities for people to do solely for fun and not completion then cool, but otherwise I feel the same rush can be gained from something like community made races following certain routes.
"Peter piper pickle pecker glazer" is CRAZZZYY😂😂😂😂
Game was my therapy after a long day of being bullied. Nothing was more satisfying than beating the crap out of thugs! I’ll always remember this game as a treasured possession that got me through the tough times!
I’m confused by “the good one”. I don’t remember a bad one.
The pc version. It's completely different than the console version, a d it's pretty bad.
@@mondodimotori yeah, and i played it after playing ps1 sm at that time still was huge downgrade
2:25 Spiderman shouldve been with black cat
the best part was the literally no emotion in character me and my brother would laugh so hard
I love Spider-Man 2
When I was gifted this game by my grandparents for my 10th birthday, it felt as though Prometheus gave me fire. I was so amazed that I made the mistake of being moth to the flamed into playing it after coming home from school one day, ditching my homework to do so and got in trouble for it. It was that compelling.
Being able to just soar across the city via web swinging or pretend to Hulk across rooftops from charged jumps alone were the best forms of freedom I could get back then.
The missions made me feel like I was properly being Spider-Man, as opposed to what was going on in the first game, fighting Rhino for the first time was worrying for me. I remember having to hide on the rooftops and try to figure out how to beat him (just suck it up and dodge him, you pansy!) and exploring the city was an adventure in and of itself!
Black Cat was a drop dead stunner and her missions made me feel confident just off having an ally that wouldn't die, alone!
You didn't talk about postgame features but there really is some fun to be had afterwards. Even if the "Collect 50,000 points" mission is somewhat pointless, it is nice to just spend more time in this world, earn all upgrades, challenge oneself with the pizza missions and the unlockable fight arena is a blast, too! And OH MY GOD, WHY ARE THERE RAPTOR LOOKING LIZARD GOONS IN SAID ARENA?!?!
(There's even a secret boss if you progress hard enough!)
I've noticed you're just a little bit down bad for Black Cat (just a little bit), so I'm going to leave you with this knowledge:
Her VA has a scene in some show or movie where, uh...let's just say she doesn't need the costume to top off one's web fluid supply. (A bit of light Googling would provide context) ;)
But overall, great retrospective and accurate summarisation of what makes this game great!
web of shadows had good web swinging too.
4:07 Talk about beating a dead horse LMAO I remember my little ass getting punished like this none stop.
Okay no joke I don’t know if this is UA-cam’s compression on videos but whenever I see Spider-Man 2 for the PS2 gameplay I literally lose sight of where Spidey is when he’s swinging really fast. Idk if this is just me or UA-cam or the actual game.
Just started playing it again. Perfect timing
This game is such a blast! I didnt get to play until a year or 2 ago and was taken aback by just how much fun it is. Swinging is tied with Web of Shadows as my personal favorite
Thank you! Ur comments on swinging is pin point. I hate how hand holdy Insomniac’s games are
My favorite part of this game was when Toby Maguire tells you to go outside and play when you beat it.
He said touch grass before it was a thing 😂
I love the bruce campbell "something else" easteregg. This game just loves trolling the player
Regarding the Web-swinging of Insomniac's SM2, am I the only who thinks that sometimes the physics of the games just suddenly and randomly slows you down. An example is when youre using the wind tunnels. When your going at a crazy fast speed and enter the wind tunnels, you'll slow down or sometimes when you do point launches, you also suddenly lost momentum. I think that the game is also favors in giving you upward momentum compared to giving you forward momentum. Even when doing a dive bomb, the physics is more willing to give you more upward momentum compared to forward momentum
Occasionally but I’m pretty sure the point launches is if you miss the perfect point launch when going at REALLY high or relatively high speed
If it’s not a perfect point launch you’ll lose some speed
"Visuals are where the game ages most"
Yeah...I remember thinking in like, 2006 that it looked bad lol. The character models anyway, I think the buildings are beautiful though, and everything else.
That title is gonna trigger all the 12 year olds/redditors
SHUT UP
Twitterites including. "Children-in-adult bodies," even. 😅
Go back under your rock… reddit hates/nitpicks/complains about Spider-Man 2
The same redditors on the spectrum who defended a decade of Activision garbage? Definitely.
New SM games are fine, but they're spoonfed to the player, no physics, no momentum combos with freeflow wallrunning and swinging, too floaty, too easy.
Toothless. Perfect for Redditors.
i rented this game from the video store twice back in the day. IDC I LOVED IT
Lol that title "Spider-Man 2 (the good one) - 20 years later" before he changed it. I honestly can't wait for IG to drop Marvel after X-Men and a lesser developer attempts another SM game and then people crawl back begging for IG to make one again or some shit not knowing how good they actually had it.
Dude you’re really evil for putting the “good one” making me think you finally made the insomniac review. I got so dang excited too 😭
This was my favorite game when I was a kid... now once i get to the final mission I just quit and call it because the difficulty of turning off that damn machine makes me want to punch the nearest person. I don't want games to be that difficult as an adult. I wanna relax after work not get an aneurysm from getting so pissed off at the difficulty of doing a task that for some reason I had no issue doing as a child.
fym "the good one"?
new one is mid
@@Anonymous-ux8kufar from true
In terms of games, it's the good one
@@Anonymous-ux8kucap nah I’m kidding
@@Anonymous-ux8ku nuh uh
"The good one"? Thats not Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro
“The good one” Oh no! The invalidation of my opinion!
"The good one" is CRAZY 😂
Cuz it is
@@doomguydemonkillermarvel's spider-man 2 is better in every single way, its not even a debate.
I thought it was talking about how the PS2 version is way superior to the PC version of the same game.
I mean, the pc version of this game is utter crap.
No swinging beats the swinging in this game. Period. End of story. Punish me with the physics, Daddy.
When I played this as a kid I always ran in front of the train just for the ragdoll physics.
Plus I tried to perfectly land from the Empire State Building in a way that Peter fell with ragdoll physics.
Needed him to hit one ledge while not landing properly it was the best.
I subscribed to Aqua for two things: Amazing reviews and ragebait titles, and boy does he always deliver
This game took over my life
Such a good review keep it up Love this game
I really recommend the spiderman web of shadows and shattered dimensions on ds
still one os the best spider man games
one of the things i like the most in the game is the sunset
the sunset is fucking beautiful
Web of Shadows is my favorite, but 2 for ps2 is a close second
Sigo jugando este juego. El mejor de Spidey.❤
The Black Cat simping is on point
Just like with Rainbow Six Siege this is a game I still constantly comeback to, one for nostalgia. And two because I still think the swinging is so much fun
I don't always agree with Aqua, but this is one of the times i disagree with him on a spiderman game. I personally always preferred USM and the first movie game to SM2, including the swinging, especially with USM. SM2 just doesn't feel as good as i feel like everyone says. Combat doesn't feel great, swinging is too loose, wall crawling is a nightmare, but it did change the way people saw and made Spider-Man games and i will always and forever be grateful for that
I put so much time into spiderman 2 and loooove that game. but like THERE WERE UPGRADES????
The second you said ultimate is the best i knew you were a man of taste
Most timeless looking spiderman game the comic art style will never age
this game should be nostalgic for me but i played it so much that it feels too recent
I just beated this on my Gamecube recently.
Loved this Game. Had It on the Xbox Original.
I remember seeing the first few Images of It In a Gaming Magazine and being amazed We could finally go down In the Streets! Got this Game when It came out and had a blast all the way through. Loved this and the 2002 Movie Game.
A shame the Spider-Man 3 Game was such a disastrous, disappointing, dumpsterfire of a Game.
i think one of the more under discussed problems with SM2 PS2's swinging is when you finally get all the speed upgrades; it becomes WAY too easier to build speed
you can infinitely spam L2 pretty much to get this arbitrary sudden burst of speed so that any mistakes the player makes can be mostly negated by just spamming it for a few speeds and go to 200mph near instantly
SM2 PS5 does this a lot better because it's a lot harder to cheese the game like that and you have to earn your speed a lot more. yes SM2 PS2 has the more difficult hardcore swinging physics (i've put hundreds of hours in both of these games at this point) but what SM2 PS5 does better is encourage the player to build your swinging speed to a fine cadence through multiple ways: dive bombing, loop de loops, the jump and dash skills (i'm aware they're also sudden speed boosts like in SM2 PS2 but they're much harder to spam and they're on way longer cooldowns), point launching, slingshots, corner tethers, etc. in SM2 PS2 the only *real* way to get speed is through the boost mechanic and that's pretty much it. SM2 PS5 is a clear evolution over that and it's why I prefer it overall
also the web zip in SM2 PS2 sucks ass in comparison when it stops your momentum for no reason
You lost me when you said that the combat in SM2 wasn't the inspiration for the combat in the Arkham games. Are you blind?
The two combat systems are fundamentally different. Arkham Rewards rhythm and strategically hitting certain enemies. Spider-Man offers more room for individual expression in what moves you use and how
TRUE
I have to be honest, I prefer the combat and swinging of not only this game, but other Spider-Man titles over the Insomniac games. I just love the momentum and speed of web swinging and slamming thugs back-and-forth like a ragdoll, or jackhammer kicking them in the air.
Also, nice to see Ultimate Spider-Man getting some love!
P.S. I would love it if we saw a live-action Rhino that used this game's design as a basis.
Especially since the game let's you throw people off buildings without any webbing safety nets
Unpopular opinion, but I still say Spider man 3 for next gen had the best web swinging. It had the perfect balance of being physics based requiring plenty of skill and cinematic enough to where you can enjoy it and flow beautifully with style through the city without inevitably slamming into a wall every few seconds. Plus I love the fluid animations and how acrobat tricks this time around can be used to manipulate how much momentum you have while web swinging, swinging off traffic lights, flying in the air or jumping off walls. Of course the tutorial in game doesn't tell you how to pull off these tricks and tips or how to use these things to your advantage. This stuff is all learned through hours of gameplay. Unfortunately Sm3's swinging goes easily overlooked since most people who play it, tend to just do whatever to beat the game and be done with it entirely.
Masterful work on the title of the video.
You both get clicks from people wanting to figure out what you mean and an active comment section full of idiots arguing whether the "old" (no one tell them about Enter Electro) Spider-man 2 and Insomniac's Spider-man 2 is superior.
You should make a retrospective on red dead 2
I often find that you can get really close to the ground when you swing in Spider-Man 2. But in Insom’s Spider-Man 2, the amount of times I’ve swung in a similar arc only to have the animation force a character’s limb to hit a van or the road, is SO annoying. And it feels less like my error and more like I’m fighting with the game. Like the animation gives the character a different gravity that I couldn’t properly account for. Still fun but aggravating nonetheless.
Turn swing assist off
My goat ❤
Fire video! Still a fire game!
I think he means the spiderman 2 2004 pc game by "the good one"
Well, there technically is ragdoll in the Insomniac games when you die. Lol.
You can tell who didn’t watch the video to its completion by people questioning “the good one” lol
bro if this game never came out & was a success, arkham wouldnt be what it was atleast at the time it came out. if you've played both it's literally common sense
Eh
Arkham Asylum would've still come out because it isn't a fully open world game
City I would agree since Spider-Man 2 was the first superhero game to nail an open world setting. There have been games that attempted open settings before like the Batman and Robin tie-in but it's so clearly ruined by the limitations of the PS1
you should talk about shattered dimensions and edge of time they're my favorites and you make the best reviews!
Bro changed the title let’s go 😂
Do spidey shattered dimensions next.
I would love to play this agian..... IF MY DISK STILL WORKED😭
Have you tried the swinging with the swing assist options turned off. It’s a lot more fun if you liked the swinging of the 2004 game. Still not exactly the same since with the 2004 game you could sling shot your self and do other tricks because of how good the physics was.
Although the new game with swing assist set to 0 is not bad. At first I was smashing myself into the pavement because its harder to get off the ground.
It's not a matter of turning off swing assist. The swinging gets boring in SM2 2023. Especially since the swing button is the same button as running on a while. Doesn't take as much skill
@@itsaxel8088 How is that a problem?
Can you review the X-Men legends games
Just to calm everyone down he's definitely talking about Tasm2 game considering he already mafe an sm2 review recommending the game
I would love to see your full review about Spider Man 2.
It’ll come soon, just have some other projects I wanna work on!
@@ThatBoyAquawould love to see more positivity with the game. I hate seeing it get hated on more than it deserves.
@@rajamohanareddygayam5309 no 90% of the hate is Warranted
@@ethanb3653 90% of the hate is red pilled garbage takes that are mostly disingenuous to what the game was going for. It’s a 7/10 at best and they all treat it like it’s a 2/10
The best Spider-Man game
Why do i not remember rag dolls when i was a kid?? Most of the games at the time didnt have it if i remember
Spider-Man 2, Ultimate and Web of Shadows have the best swinging imo. Marvel's Spider-Man 1 & 2 was fun at the beginning but got boring pretty fast. Swinging doesn't feel rewarding anymore in modern Spider-Man's.
4:50 Ok what ? Leaning AWAY from Raggdoll physics is more sophisticated?
Isn’t it the exact opposite !? Raggdoll physics IS THE BEST When done Right like in This Game your reviewing and Halo2
I’m not sure why ppl would say it inspired Arkham , Ik spider-man 3 was originally more like Arkham but they lost the guy that was doing the combat system so it was scrapped.
Spider-Man 3 also literally has a mechanic that's a precursor to detective mode.
USM is what I'd call an Arkham precursor because moving your analog stick to an enemy during combat will have Spidey automatically zip to that enemy
mannnnnnn there are so many old games I want to play
Almost every Spider-Man game can be considered good except SM3, Edge of Time and TASM 1/2.
Neversoft PS1 Spider-Man games, SM1 Treyarch, SM2, Ultimate, Web of Shadows, Shattered Dimensions, even TASM 1 was somewhat okay.
Edge of time? That game is good
I liked all of them except Edge of Time lol. It felt too repetitive to me. Go from one room beat people up and go into another.
@@T02F20 I played it on the 3DS, it had a good story but it was 4 hours long, very repetitive and quite annoying by the end. It would’ve been better as a movie.
@@brahmanwithin6623 ah honestly I see where you’re coming from. Maybe I’m blinded by nostalgia
@@T02F20 I think that the game is a better experience watched online as a game movie with all cutscenes because the combat is a bit tedious. I actually quite liked The Amazing Spider-Man 2 at the time, even though it was quite mediocre. It had fun swinging and combat, decent suits and decent stealth missions.
No one is beating ultimate?! Yessir! It’s very underrated. In my opinion it’s the best Spider-man game.
I have no problem with the The Raimi spider man 2 i just find it annoying how its fans will always try to invalidate everything the new games do for the SWINGING it shows a lack of critical thinking and just Or even basic empathy
Yes congratulations you have more skill based swinging in your game we have better combat. Voice acting and Graphics.
But then they get offended that anyone dare say their games aren’t the best
Yea, Spider-Man fans aren’t exactly the most mature bunch. Half the problem is that they kind of have a point, the swinging really is quite good in the old SM2, but you’re right, it doesn’t invalidate someone’s preference and just because it takes more skill doesn’t make it inherently better
Well, gotta dust off the ol’ PS2
I prefer the swinging/traversal in this over the Marvel's Spider-Man games, because it's more challenging. The traversal in the newer games LOOKS cool, but it feels much more satisfying to pull stuff off in Spider-Man 2 The Movie Game.
imo it feels ALOT better to play the marvel game tbh
not only does it look alot better. swinging is very challenging to make it look good and keep the flow going, where og sm2 is alot more "basic" and less feature rich
Just turn down the assist swinging to 0 and boom it’s more challenging
The skill ceiling for this game was higher as you really had to master web swinging.
@@OhFicial67 its artificial. its still not momentum based, and can be mastered in a day or 2. web wings circumvent any possible challenge, theres no real fall damage, and half of the shit i could do in games from over a decade ago i cant do in the new game
Ragebait title if i ever saw one lmao
Spider-Man 2 2023 is atrocious
@@Rounderyathecruel sure
It's not ragebait if its true.
its lowkey true. the old one is great for its time and the standards it has. it knows what it was trying to accomplish and achieved that. the new one feels like they stopped caring half way through and just added anything they thought would be cool without thinking first
Why? Because it’s true
Oh man, the ponies are gonna be upset over that title. They might just start playing golf out of rage.
Spider-Man 3 is really good.
* Dodges bullets and flaming pitchforks *
The PSP one, I mean. It's basically 2's graphics and gameplay but with 3's story. 2 on PSP was unfortunately not as good because it lacks the big open world
Spider-Man 2 didn't have the open world because the PSP at the time was new so devs were figuring out how to work with the hardware(I think SM2 was even one of the launch titles)
It wasn't till late 2005 that we started seeing more ambitious titles on the console
Can’t wait for dis game to drop again on ps5 hands down best spider man next to it is the Wii Spider-Man😮💨
Who's playing this in four hours?
Correction
*(the other good one)
I gotchu bruh
You deserve a thumbs up for the Black Cat comments alone.
You should look into "Shattered Dimensions"
Iv got a feeling he’s got swing assist on
Would be nice if you told us how to emulate