My Dad cancelled his Tesla for this...
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2023
- When the Model Y launched in Australia, my Dad didn't hesitate to put an order in for a Performance... but in the months after, he started to doubt his decision. Let's hear why...
**Whilst I don't agree with his decision, it makes for an interesting debate that many from his generation would rally behind.
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I would hope that for around $180-200k the Merc would feel more "premium". Each to their own but wow spending nearly 200k on the V8 sound and stitching on the interior is something I could never justify.
I wonder if it's also still seen as a status symbol for his generation, also which in his circles a Tesla would be ridiculed?
Good interview. I’m 70. Grew up with all the muscle car sound and looks of the 60’s and 70’s. Had a 1969 Mustang GT fastback that would be the only car I would ever buy again a second time. Love my Y Tesla. For the sound aspect I can record that noise and play it on my Bluetooth and drive around if I want. But the quietness of a Tesla is way better. You should have asked what the gas costs are. Anyway hope your dad enjoys it
Thank you ! Appreciate getting your opinion with the experience you've had. I will read this comment to my dad, who also has a 60's mustang GT fastback as well! That's what he was referring to in the video when he said best of both worlds! Such a beautiful car but personally I can't stand the smell of petrol anymore haha
Is your dad not worried about the future that his grandchildren are going to inherit? He is Ryan’s father after all! Mercedes cars have horrible reliability these days. I know that your dad will be happy and I wish him well. I am 64 and have no children, but I am worried about the future.
Nah Cuz Bro is trying to live life i respect that! ✊
I agree, that is one awesome machine!@@windowsxpgamer669
Why would I tell you? @@_Sensei_1
German car brands have good quality better then American cars really Mercedes have better quality then a Tesla that’s for sure please do some research before commenting but I respect ur opinion
Who cares
Another nice video, thanks Ryan. I'm the same age as your dad and have 3 sons all around your age, so can appreciate where you father is coming from (familiarity, nostalgia, premium finish), but I'm also cognisant of the benefits of electrification. Today I drive a luxury 2008 VW Passat CC 125TDI diesel turbo. Cost around $80k when it was new. The engineering, fit, finish, comfort and tech for the day was outstanding, and has stood the test of time. I've just ordered a 2023 Model Y (will pick up in 4-6 weeks) and will sadly have to let my VW go. The 'why' will have to wait until I pop out and see you one of these days, but I still have my road and dirt motorbikes to satisfy my desire for noise and fumes :) I grew up with dirt bikes, mates with a Torana SLR 5000, a Charger, a Monaro GTS, and a Commodore SSS (Aussie 70's muscle cars), and watching Peter Brock, Allan Moffit and others race at Mt Panorama / Bathurst 1000. Letting go of nostalgia and embracing electrification is hard for us who are from the Baby Boomer generation. If Tesla made something that has the fit and finish of yesterday's luxury cars, complete with an external sound system that gave us the V8 rumble/burble at the touch of a switch, then I'd be much happier being "all in" :)
And the amount of luxury is better. You can't drive your electric car from sydney to melbourne but the c63 can drive from Sydney to Melbourne using petrol. because there aren't enough ev charging stations in Australia.
You can absolutely drive from Sydney to Melbourne
Dad being interviewed by his worst decision on his best decision
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The sad part is so many Aussies just don't get it.We don't know what pollution is and turn a blind eye to the problems ICE cause.
I've noticed this sentiment when I post videos on tiktok. There's is a lot of misinformation around EV's. Makes me sad-but spurs me to keep creating content. And Dad is actually a big fan of what Tesla is doing (as a shareholder). I think he gets it, but like many of his generation, they resist the change to EVs / love V8's.
I have a Tesla and could care less about pollution. It's just a phenomenal car and outstanding in every way. Anyone who cares about pollution really needs to be concerned about what India and China are doing, not Australia.
@@hotconductor4749 And China and India are doing what for what Country's?
YAA AND THEB THEY ALL WRONG ABOUT EVS
@@RyanCowansame in my head I cry of the misinformation because they do not like tesla for FLIPING SOUND
To keep everyone Safe, can you teach your dad on how to use the indicator on the Merc? and "Yes dad they do come with an Indicator."
You didn’t ask about emissions. Firstly the noxious cancer-causing tailpipe gases and secondly the planet-warming CO2 emissions. I understand how difficult it can be to ask your father these hard questions but his choice of car will adversely affect the future of your child 😢
Geez, lighten up. It’s just a car, dude.
Calm down and don’t get sucked into the environmental con!
@@Sensei_Sifu World Health Organisation reports 6.7 million deaths occur each year due to fossil fuel combustion. The global warming effects of CO2 emissions have been known and predicted for over 50 years. Carl Sagan reported them to the American Congress in 1985. Interestingly, in 1977 Exxon scientists published charts that predicted rising temperature up to today with remarkable accuracy. Unfortunately they were supressed by the company's management at that time. This is all now publically available information. Just Google it.
What is car tailpipes emissions compared to the amount of aeroplanes on the sky
Lol cry me a river😂
Great video as always Ryan! You know I love my Tesla M3 and personally will never buy another ICE vehicle, but... I do appreciate, and to some extent understand, the emotional connection to the sound/rumble of a V8 - it is a visceral sensation. Each to their own - the change is coming and we are slowly but surely moving from the early adopters into the early mainstream thanks to Tesla, BYD, Polestar etc. We just need a good EV ute in Oz to convince the tradies, and the Tesla Semi (or similar) wouldn't hurt either... 🙂
Agree ! 🙌Thanks for the comment (as always!) 🥰 I also can't wait for the Tesla Semi to arrive in AU and some sort of compelling EV ute-not sure who from as Tesla not likely to fill this market in AU. Rivian would be ideal.
Yes I agree
I don't know why people want that noise and rumble. It makes sitting in it uncomfortable in tight spaces and long trips
How embarrassing! What is your dad going to say to his grandchildren when they ask.. "Why did you choose to contribute to making my future much less safe and much less clean?" Not all boomers are so thoughtless.
Boy, imagine having grandchildren that far up themselves
@@derradune6722 Your right! How dare they question why?
@@jsantamaria1611 this is what happens when you get to far into environmento con
Thanks very much Ryan for sharing this story. Great to hear from your dad the reason for the pivot to the Mercedes - it is a bit of a shift to move to the Tesla, but it is a change worth making, particularly for the items you left near the end of the video.
I still love my Model Y - and lastly your videos have helped countless people I’m sure in making their choice about their next vehicle (hopefully to a Tesla).
Thank you so much ☺️
This was a very interesting video. There is a lot to say, but apart from the obvious, like you stated at the end, which is completely true, and I don’t know why anyone would take a v8 over an ev, dad was very well footed. I love my v8’s, the sound, nothing beats it, but the environmental cons, safety, running cost etc, nothing justifies that for double the starting cost of a model Y performance. Thanks for making this video Ryan!!! ☺️😄
“Hey Dad, I’m going make a video about how Boomers are still embracing 20th century technology and paying through the nose for the privilege. Would you like to be their spokesperson.”
“No worries son”
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Shocking take.
Most people get vehicles based on the souls the car had. A V8 would be the best option for petrolheads, it has so much souls and excitement than the Tesla. Not trying to mock Teslas but, it's what most people don't get about petrol vehicles. Petrol vehicles have sound that brings many joy from the engine.
But, in many ways Mercedes-Benz was a good option. It's a powerful V8. It is rather an exciting car. If I were given Tesla and A Mercedes. I would pick the Merc. The Merc is a living legend, merc is well known for the engines.
Petrol vehicles have a lot of souls, I think EV seems like it is being driven by a ghost. I can't lie, petrol vehicles have more torque than the Tesla.
Petrol cars usually have more torque than an EV.
EV are quicker but not fast on the acceleration. It depends on the person's ability to think about the car they like.
Your dad made some fair points there. Though I couldn't help but notice, he seemed to mostly put emphasis on the "sound" factor of a V8. Sadly, like many people who are ASD, I can never understand that. Mainly because I suffer sensory sensitivity to such sounds like that which comes from a V8 vehicle. It can be traumatising at times. But your dad does seem like a good gentleman, so hopefully he is one of the few V8 owners who would make every attempt to minimise how much "roar" he lets out of his vehicle in public places, in case a sensory sensitive person is nearby.
Also, I'm sure he is aware that one day he will have to let go of that desire for the sound of a V8. We all go through phases of something, that really appeals to senses. But as the world and our society constantly changes, at some point, we all have to change with it. Even if that means letting go of something that has always appealed to us.
3:36 Tesla after hearing this: Let's remove the stalks altogether. 🤪
That is sad that is he is missing out of the tesla family Mercedes is good but there is just something about tesla that I love!
Omg really! The noise, pollution, service charges, dealerships, depreciation, and perceived quality. Sorry Ryan, I just dont understand why anyone would buy yesterdays technology over the new superior technology of Tesla. But hey, congrats, dad, hope it's all you desire😊
Those older generation can't let go of the old mindset, changes and new technology is too much for them.
That merc is better than the Tesla in every way. Electric isn’t the way of the future, batteries are worse for the environment than burning petroleum. Hybrid or Hydrogen will be the future.
@@kmlchannelthats mercedes has more technology loaded in it than the Tesla. Everyone sees a huge screen in a Tesla and says exactly what you are.
It's about the beautiful design
@danielhuynh8264 The tesla model 3, new version, is a truly tour de force of design.
Hi Ryan, what are your charging costs like for the month?
Are there any other fixed running costs as well?
Do you find it actually much cheaper than your Mazda?
We're saving over $4k annually compared to our Mazda. Cost savings have been huge especially now that we are on an EV power plan (super off-peak charging which means a full charge of the car is $4.50).
Disappointing considering he has a grandchild coming in to the world.
Good point at the end, double the cost, it’s really hard to compare at that ratio.
My argument against your dad is, who incidentally looks astoundingly like you is, luxury shouldn’t be measured by stitching at leather. My yardstick for luxury is smoothness and drivetrain and nothing beats most EVs in that regard, they are next level. My wife’s 130k Touareg doesn’t even come close, honestly it feels like a dinosaur compared with my M3P.
Well said! In fact off camera, I said to dad "luxury is also having the best tech and safety in a car, and getting software updates OTA" ! 🙌 Thanks for the comment mate, you're the first person in the comments to point out that dad and I look a like 😂
@@RyanCowan Yes mate, completely forgot about the tech and continual updates, 100% agree on that.
Chip off the old block, even your mannerisms are so similar :)
Luxury is the details. Tesla obviously is not there. And it will never be. In that regard it’s too expensive.
Tesla definitely. Doesn’t sound like your dad is fully sold on the Tesla Ryan, but that’s with a lot of middle-aged people at the moment thinking the interior quality is just not there. Even though the technology is so far ahead than any other car manufacturer.
*Without judgment*, but also, with honest observation. It’s quite sad with that generation. I get it, it’s luxurious, but the planet is on fire. Each to their own, sure, but also consideration of others, the earth, future generations. Climate change is an absolute calamity- each of us has to do our part, and that starts with our consumption habits. Peace and goodwill to all 🙏 ❤
At least it’s not a Diesel!
Good vid mate, good feedback from your pa. But as the saying goes, ‘We need to stop burning stuff’, for our future.
Awesome interview. Dad is a natural.
haha thanks mate !
Drag race
😂 I'd need to borrow someones performance
Drag race between Melbourne and Sydney, the Merc would get there first.
It is a cool sound… but I’m finding as much pleasure from the sound of silence 👍 somewhat unexpected, but true.
I agree !
I get the love of the sound. Definitely disagree with the comment about feeling of luxury at the price point. If he was buying a GLC300 how much difference in feeling of luxury is there?
One pf our great joys is not supporting the oil oligarchs & regimes.
It's great to support Australian clean energy jobs.
On my second Tesla here. Like you, M3 then four months later MY.
Primary reason for driving owning EV was the smoothness and acceleration. Everything else a bonus. However, im a baby boomer and Im now looking at buying a C63 for fun. (Second car).🎉
I think that scenario makes sense, Tesla for every day / main car .. and something fun for the weekends if that's your kinda thing
Well, look on the bright side. That's a rich dad you have.
With the escalating war over in Israel the price of gas will go up he might not be to happy and regret it when he has to pay for rising fuel prices
Im confused with this, MY isnt a premium car, premium performance yes
Care to elaborate? I would say Model Y is premium. Even if the price dropped to $30k, it would still feel more premium than other cars, given the tech. And I would argue the interior feels premium with that minimal design.
@@RyanCowan your tech is good but ur build quality isn’t always the best but still better then most cars at least ha ha
@@RyanCowanNothing about a Tesla interior screams premium.
Disagree @@dirtygore
Please get a "TESLA Y ACTIVE SOUND CONTROL SINGLE SOUND GENERATOR KIT PLUG & PLAY KIT" Your dad can then love the sound of your Tesla ;)
Service and depreciation is sad but it's all money we not taking anything with us.
First of all, the both of ya make a good point. However, the reliability of a GLC isnt all that bad. However the problem im concerned with a tesla is the quality as ive been seeing those all over the internet. Lastly, the points you made at the end were fine but here are the things that you missed. The GLC has a 5 Star rating by NHTSA and so does the Model Y, So they are in a tie. Secondly, the price of the GLC isnt double of the teslas but is 10-12k more. I personally think technology is much better in a tesla and so is the carbon footprint. Efficiency however, goes straight to the tesla. Thanks for making this video
Thanks for the lovely comment. The Merc was well over $200k, so easily double the Tesla here in Australia. In regards to the safety, Model Y is the safest car ever tested by NHTSA, so beats the Merc.
@@RyanCowan My bad bro, didnt know you were in AU. I was also comparing with the base model GLC. thanks
I guess you can't teach old dog new tricks. Your dinasour dad generation will died out.
Mercedes built quality is better
Your dad is a g for owning a amg I hate electric cars 😂
your father is a much smarter man
GLC 63s would be drive away over $230k including $35k in luxury car tax. At that insane price the fuel choice is almost irrelevant 😅. However it’s literally 2 x the price of MYP. (Dad could have 2 x MYPs and give one to Ryan) Unfortunately Tesla no longer produces Model X or S in RHD for ‘premium buyers’. Also legacy European car brands are years behind in developing comparable EVs
Well said, and I totally agree. I wonder if the refreshed Model X was in AU whether he'd consider it.
All the tesla models are ugly AF except for the S. But not available here any more.
@bikersydney5653 so you're saying european manufacturers are way behind tesla in terms of engineering of an ev?
@@nasimuzzamansourov7272 Sadly Yes. As a 20 year BMW owner (6 different cars) , it was hard to find a compelling BMW if I wanted to switch to EV
I love my model 3… but I can’t deny, that Merc looks so much better (and sounds better too!)
I’m looking forward to a few years when Mercedes have a great set of EV’s I’ll probably switch to get the luxury interior
I'm surprised by this comment Mark !! Do u think Merc will be able to catch Tesla? I would love to see you test drive a EV Merc on your channel to hear your thoughts
@@RyanCowan Hey I've had two Mercedes and love the quality of the build, (Just even simple things like the door close sound) I think Merc would have a lot of catching up to do, and honestly I don't think I could switch to any other car now until they have a system as good as AutoPilot, as I do long drives and love it! What did you think of the feel between the two?
I'm tempted by this new Merc AMG Electic: ua-cam.com/video/xXpPvq8vSys/v-deo.html
I like Teslas but I can't blame your dad! I probably would have done the same thing :)
Ryan: “Hey Dad, why did you buy the Nokia 3210 over the iPhone 15?”
Boomer Dad: “It wasn’t luxurious because it didn’t have any buttons”
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haha this is the perfectly analogy of exactly my thoughts !
IPhone 15😂😂 Pathetic phone years behind an Android phone
Hey at least the Nokia won't break if you drop it and the battery would last more then a day
@@michael9678727 facts my man
You do know that there's more tech in that Merc than what there is in a Tesla.
W Dad.
Ha ha, that’s funny. The dinosaur for a dinosaur and the new young breed drives the new young breed it’ll take a while but the changes is inevitable, it’ll be his last petrol purchase though…. But nice car hope he enjoys it.
In every way? I don't agree
Why didnt your dad consider a model X or S? Comparing it to a model Y seems bit off.
Hearing your dad it might be the reason Hyundai is releasing its Iqonic N series for petrol heads... But the premium interior is not there as well.
I am so happy with my Quicksilver model Y, first new car I owned so it setting the base for me for years to come. So luxurious coming from an eleven year old Kia ICE 😅
Tesla Australia only sells the 3 and Y
Sadly Tesla don’t offer the S and X in Australia anymore as they stopped production of RHD. Only option would be to find a second hand one.
Ah I was not aware of this. What is the reason for this decision? Seems bit odd or is there such a minor market for them?
@@bewinters I think it was a production thing. Tesla were struggling to meet order demand for LHD S & X let alone RHD.
Thanks for the comment mate ! I even wonder if the new Model X would be enough to make him switch. Like many of his generation, they're really torn by what to do. But yeah I totally agree, the Tesla interior feels super lux to me as well, and personally not a fan now of all the the buttons you get from OEMs.
Your dad just needs more tinsel on his car than a Model Y has 😂
A Mercedes is just better equipped in that department because it's in a higher price segment.
Therefore, I can understand his decision. Btw, I drive a Model 3.
Nice🔥🔥
I remember teaching my Dad how to use a computer and email for the first time.. it was also not a wise decision. Old people are silly.
Obviously you forgot that your parents taught you how to speak and read. Your really ignorant.
His next car will probably have to be electric.
Agree
Hey Ryan. When I first heard your dad was cancelling his Model Y order for a V8 Mercedes I was shocked. I love my minimalist interior now but it definitely isn’t premium and when you come from a nice premium interior to a Tesla like I did it’s definitely a trade off. I was happy to do this as the benefits of owning an EV massively outweigh this. I do now look at interiors like the Mercedes with a massive amount of buttons and laugh when people think Teslas are complicated. Tesla does need to make some improvements to things like suspension when someone is spending 80-90k on a LR or performance version. This is why I always recommend the RWD 3 and Y as they are better value for money.
Completely agree ! New Model 3 updates address most of this issue which is exciting !
The Y is ugly AF. The only good model is the S. But not available here...
The "minimalist" interior is just sales speak for making the car cheaper to manufacture but selling it at a premium.
@@michael9678727 ur speaking facts almost all of teslas models are pretty much ugly
When your whole life has been polluting the air everyone has to breathe, and heating the planet. Why would you care about cleaning the atmosphere or cooling it down now ? Having a brum-brum sound coming from your tailpipe, is so much more important. Very sad example of why the world is the way it is. It's all about me ....... It will be your children Ryan, his grandchildren, that pay the toll for the enjoyment of brum-brum sounds 😔😔😔
Just a car and I like the sounds and ur over reacting relax kiddo just a car and it’s a better decision
Ngl... I like it lol
😂0.1s slower acceleration
You're dad is definitely very passionate about ICE vehicles and I think he put up a very good "argument" as to why he likes them more than EV's.
Hope he hasn’t got shares in Mercedes 😂
To think you will be able to purchase a ice vehicle in 10 years is delusional 😅
He only has shares in Tesla actually 😂 Which is great, as he really believes in what the company is doing (just not enough to drive one himself). But yeah, I think many people of his generation are massively underestimating how the next 5-10 years will play out for EV's.
A first time ford model T owner was asked a few months later what he missed most about his previous transport , which had been a horse . After a short thought process he said I miss the smell of shit .
hahahaha
Why is this comment section full of crying, coping, stop oil muppets 😂😂😂. Search up the environmental footprint of an EV specifically the production, also search how those batteries have to be disposed of. From somebody majoring in electronics yes Tesla has some cool gadgets, but that is all they have, EV's aren't one bit less toxic than combustion cars, they just polute in ways less known to the common people
Thanks for the comment mate. I think it's important to note that EV's produce more emissions to manufacture, however they quickly make up for it once they are on the road. The life time impact of an EV is much less than ICE for several reasons. Even if charged from the grid they are still about 4x more efficient at power conversion. Tesla is definitely ahead of the game when it comes to recycling, currently recycling 95% of all raw materials for new battery packs.
@@RyanCowan 💯 Spot on. This is what the Anti EV movement do not quite understand which is quite perplexing.. . Oh and EVs easily catch fire! 🥴…
@@reyan063434 I’ve seen people do the exact same thing to oil power cars the environmento con people have been saying the same thing but both cars aren’t necessarily good for the environment
The merc
W Dad
That mercedes is clean! I love my tesla, but I love ice vehicles too.
It has been doing my head in for 2 weeks as well. I have ordered the Highland but I can't get over the fact that I could get a super nice GLC and lane centering assistance with light use for much less money. I think it's a choice between look and technology. It mustn't be easy to move all the buttons to just one screen. Tesla spent lots of time on the technology whereas German cars spent lots of time on the design.
If you can afford the AMG and running costs it’s a no brainer. The price gap between the two doesn’t give a like for like comparison but more of a V8 v Electric performance. Both different and good!
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Wow🎉 that's cool
Ok so look at this example u live in idk serbia ok and u drive to slovenia for work that is a long drive also ur avarage Pay is 1800€ a month What Are you going to do also ur electric system is to poor to sustain the electricity so of course you Are going to buy an diesel car beacuse u need to drive long distances and your Pay isnt good enough to buy a tesla alos i doubt there is many changing stations in serbia so if u live in america australia germany france etc. Its a good coice any other situation its not also sorry for my bad english Im not a Native speaker
I personally loath the obnoxious sound of loud cars and Harley’s and the serenity of a Tesla is bliss. Each to their own. 🙏
When his son is stuck in the middle of nowhere out of batteries he will call his father to come save him.
haha thats not gonna happen
I had that same benz, same color, same inside. it was not built like the benz he remembers. on mine under 5k miles--- Air suspension failure, kick to open rear hatch failure.. all junk. I got a model y (performance) don't want to be in a car dealership ever again.
That many issues after 5k miles on a german made car? Yeah find that very hard to believe.
Good on your Dad to stand his ground and face the confrontation in front of the camera - he was honest and seems to be a super nice bloke. But I do think the majority of buyers ends up with the different decision than him he's just a nostalgic petrol head that loves the sound :)
Dad is the smartest man amount you !!
I agree with pops, that rumble noise gives you a rush. I'm shocked that he didn't get the Mercedes EQB; maybe have him test drive it and post the video Ryan?
Already planning for this !! haha 😉 thank you !
@@RyanCowan can't wait!
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First! I love all cars (especially tesla) pin please 🙏
Agreed…..but here’s a man, who seems intelligent and successful and yet he said what F, to hell with environment and I’m going to be selfish and do whatever I want….and that is his right living in a free country where you can make these choices. It makes me sad that so many people just don’t get it.
And? If they respect your coice u respect theirs
Sorry Ryan. Your dad is mental buying an over $200K car. V8’s belong on race tracks. Not our shitty suburban roads.
Want to see shitty suburban roads, come to Zimbabwe.
haha agree
At your dad has a premium luxurious car with more tech than your tesla in it and it will still be worth more than your tesla in 10 years.
That’s a better car in every way in my opinion. Especially in interiors since the Tesla interiors are pretty shit.
And tesla ride quality is rubbish.
New updated suspension in Model 3 is apparently excellent !
@@RyanCowan that's good news. I can't stand hsvinsn everyday car with harsh ride. That's why I'm excited for byd.