One shouldn’t expect a replacement insole. The whole idea of Goodyear welting is to allow the shoe to be resoled and rehealed without disturbing the integrity of the shoe shape. Effectively the uppers and insole become a sealed unit to which the welt, soles are heals are attached. The reason they replaced the heal liner is because when fitting the new heal, they will have used nails hammered from the shoe interior into the replacement heel block. The liner covers those nail holes. Technically it is possible for an insole to be replaced, especially at the factory where the shoes were made. It requires careful removal of the uppers and for them to restretched over the original last. This would only be done out of necessity - to replace the shoe lining or if the insole has become damaged. It’s a much more complicated and time-consuming operation than resoling and rehealing.
I was impressed with the heel finish; sometimes there is a small gap between the rubber insert and leather heel block but none here. The wheeling on the sole was a bit off but it’s purely aesthetic and irrelevant after a couple of wears.
I used a local cobbler to resole Bedales and made efforts to find a reputable one (ie not the amateurs at Timpsons). New soles then literally disintegrated over next month and problem appeared to be quality of materials used in the repair. Have now bought new Bedales and factory resole for me from now on.
Shame its now 90 for the resole, I have sent two pairs for this service so far. Unfortunately they lost one pair, they did however send me a brand new pair.
You cannot replace the insole on a goodyear welted shoe - technically you could but you would be better off buying a new shoe as that would required disassembling the entire shoe - replacing the sockliner is enough - really good job for GBP 60/-
Also look into the services of the Shoe Healer in Doncaster.. I have had a load sent to them.. Tricker's Sanders Loakes.. Utter fantastic workmanship..i just can not fault.! All mine now are sent there.. Check em out Ann or Greg customer services, they'll post em back to you too..
That would make you a UK size 9? It depends on the last but I think all British shoes run a bit on the large size compared with, say, Italian or Spanish shoes. The Capital Last is a little bit elongated and has a decent amount of width. It only comes in F width; that’s standard UK width which I find to be a fair bit wider than Allen Edmonds D width, for example. Unless you have a wide foot you might want to consider half a size down but it’s always best to try on first or make sure you can return if necessary. Hope that helps.
I wore my 1880 Strands for 3 1/2 years before resoling. Reasonably heavy wear; twice a week although didn’t do too much pavement walking. Just in between home/office and the bus stop mostly.
@Harry Donovan I didn’t wait until the sole was completely worn though. The rubber heel block was in need of replacement so I thought I might as well send them back to the factory. Who knows, there might have been another year left in the soles.
Retaining the insoles means your feet contours are still there so the shoe won't feel 'brand new'. It's a personal preference I suppose - whether you'd like to get a brand new shoe back, or your old shoe spruced up. I must agree that the wheeling defects are unacceptable though. £600??? I thought the 1880 series cost around £120? The 'regular' models were something like £90?
The £600 was a slip of the tongue on my part. Should have said £60. Loake 1880s are in the £220-250 which is still very good value. I agree on the insole. Thanks for the feedback.
The foot bed is not replaced as the fiber ribbing is machine stitched to the bottom...of which the welt is stiched to that.. The foot bed is moulded to your foot.. To replace the leather foot bed means an almost dismantle of the shoe itself.. Time consuming & mega expensive.. Loake do replace the leather Logo sock to cover the heal block nails..
Works out at around 1/4 the original price of the shoes and you get a pair that is virtually as good as new. That’s approx. £550 (including heel replacements) for a pair of shoes that will last 12+ years with 3 resoles. That’s cheap if you ask me!
you do realise to change the "insole" you need to remove the welt aswell since its glued to the welt stitching, wich means you replace the complete shoe exept the uppers. and torrington is a pair of nice shoes.
Better still if you don't take a video of your shoes before you send them for a factory refurbishment. Just send one shoe, then when it comes back video the two shoes next to one another.
One shouldn’t expect a replacement insole. The whole idea of Goodyear welting is to allow the shoe to be resoled and rehealed without disturbing the integrity of the shoe shape. Effectively the uppers and insole become a sealed unit to which the welt, soles are heals are attached. The reason they replaced the heal liner is because when fitting the new heal, they will have used nails hammered from the shoe interior into the replacement heel block. The liner covers those nail holes.
Technically it is possible for an insole to be replaced, especially at the factory where the shoes were made. It requires careful removal of the uppers and for them to restretched over the original last. This would only be done out of necessity - to replace the shoe lining or if the insole has become damaged. It’s a much more complicated and time-consuming operation than resoling and rehealing.
Heel and sole finish looks better then new. Great job from the factory and thanks for a nice review!
I was impressed with the heel finish; sometimes there is a small gap between the rubber insert and leather heel block but none here. The wheeling on the sole was a bit off but it’s purely aesthetic and irrelevant after a couple of wears.
I used a local cobbler to resole Bedales and made efforts to find a reputable one (ie not the amateurs at Timpsons). New soles then literally disintegrated over next month and problem appeared to be quality of materials used in the repair. Have now bought new Bedales and factory resole for me from now on.
Shame its now 90 for the resole, I have sent two pairs for this service so far. Unfortunately they lost one pair, they did however send me a brand new pair.
Sorry did you say £600? Isnt it cheaper to just buy 3 new pairs of shoes?
Haha, no - they’re £225 new and it’s £60 for the factory resole.
Haha I definitely heard £600 too.
James Watson he deffo said 600
Guys, I’m a lazy SOB so I’m not going to re-record the video due to a single slip. 😂
Current price is around £90
You cannot replace the insole on a goodyear welted shoe - technically you could but you would be better off buying a new shoe as that would required disassembling the entire shoe - replacing the sockliner is enough - really good job for GBP 60/-
Also look into the services of the Shoe Healer in Doncaster..
I have had a load sent to them..
Tricker's Sanders Loakes..
Utter fantastic workmanship..i just can not fault.!
All mine now are sent there..
Check em out Ann or Greg customer services, they'll post em back to you too..
Hi enjoy your vids. How do you say the sizing on Loakes run? I’m a size 9.5 US and on the brannock scale. Do Loakes run big? Thanks
That would make you a UK size 9? It depends on the last but I think all British shoes run a bit on the large size compared with, say, Italian or Spanish shoes. The Capital Last is a little bit elongated and has a decent amount of width. It only comes in F width; that’s standard UK width which I find to be a fair bit wider than Allen Edmonds D width, for example. Unless you have a wide foot you might want to consider half a size down but it’s always best to try on first or make sure you can return if necessary. Hope that helps.
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Thank you for your valuable information i found it helpful, very! Thank you sir.
£600 is absolutely crazy.😢
How long do they last before needed a resole?
I wore my 1880 Strands for 3 1/2 years before resoling. Reasonably heavy wear; twice a week although didn’t do too much pavement walking. Just in between home/office and the bus stop mostly.
@Harry Donovan I didn’t wait until the sole was completely worn though. The rubber heel block was in need of replacement so I thought I might as well send them back to the factory. Who knows, there might have been another year left in the soles.
Retaining the insoles means your feet contours are still there so the shoe won't feel 'brand new'. It's a personal preference I suppose - whether you'd like to get a brand new shoe back, or your old shoe spruced up. I must agree that the wheeling defects are unacceptable though. £600??? I thought the 1880 series cost around £120? The 'regular' models were something like £90?
The £600 was a slip of the tongue on my part. Should have said £60. Loake 1880s are in the £220-250 which is still very good value. I agree on the insole. Thanks for the feedback.
marksshoereviews £60 is indeed good value for a full re-sole. 👌🏽
It says £90 for a full resole on Loake website.
They might have recently increased the price?
They will never replace the insole, but you will gwt a new heel sock.
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£ 600? You must be joking.
Think you made an error regarding the price of the factory resole and it is more like £150
This video is 4 years old
Yes so £600 sounds even more ridiculous !
The foot bed is not replaced as the fiber ribbing is machine stitched to the bottom...of which the welt is stiched to that..
The foot bed is moulded to your foot..
To replace the leather foot bed means an almost dismantle of the shoe itself..
Time consuming & mega expensive..
Loake do replace the leather Logo sock to cover the heal block nails..
A fair price to be honest. I think cheaney charged me £95. Got a couple of loakes but still don't require a restoration.
Works out at around 1/4 the original price of the shoes and you get a pair that is virtually as good as new. That’s approx. £550 (including heel replacements) for a pair of shoes that will last 12+ years with 3 resoles. That’s cheap if you ask me!
@@marksshoereviews6028 yes good value. I'll definitely be sending my 1880s when the time comes
Please do the export grade review.
I recorded a video a few months ago but I messed up the ending...I’ll definitely upload a review in the new year.
marksshoereviews im waiting for ur review and shoe collection video. Thanks in advance
Love Shoes I promise it’s coming but young kids and work commitments 🥴
you do realise to change the "insole" you need to remove the welt aswell since its glued to the welt stitching, wich means you replace the complete shoe exept the uppers. and torrington is a pair of nice shoes.
Thanks. I suspected there was a good reason for this.
Better still if you don't take a video of your shoes before you send them for a factory refurbishment. Just send one shoe, then when it comes back video the two shoes next to one another.
Sending mine in too for £90
To be fair I would of expected insoles for the price paid