This video has gone well beyond our wildest expectations. We primarily have made videos to share our trips with our family, friends and the Hiker Trailer community. Thanks to those who have commented both positively and critically, however blatant negativity will be removed immediately. At this point, responding to defend why we felt creeped out will not bring any new light to what occurred. I would love to be a little less worried about both the big and small things in life. Read through the comment reply's for a little extra context beyond the video and description. Our goal more than anything else is to showcase the beauty of the southwest and inspire others to get out and enjoy it, however you may choose. Safe travels to you all, be sure you "pack it out" if you enjoy our national lands. Please bring some joy to those around you. Thanks for watching!
I read a story about a woman's adventure of bicycling across country with her child with her (don't recall if a son or daughter) and one afternoon they set up camp and a couple of guys came over and chatted a while and although there was no indication of anything, she felt uncomfortable knowing there was someone else, strangers knowing where she was. She moved her camp away and up a hill where she could see but not be seen. Sure enough, late in the night those guys came back. She saw their flashlights and saw them walking around the area looking for her. She kept quiet in case of echo (which she heard from them) and it was clear they came back for no good. ALWAYS move when creepy people come around, or too weirdly overly nice almost needy to please people. They too can turn.
That is so chilling. Why do people have to be creeps? Sucks that would be so scary to experience in real time. Evil is out there and I'll never understand why people want to hurt other people. Makes no sense.
I camped around there years ago. It was at a tree that had been hit by lightning and it felt weird but we were too tired to move. Pitched tent ate went to bed. I wake up in the middle of the night I hear distant drumming and chanting. It went on for hours never stopping. It's sacred Navajo land. I was thrilled to know I experienced it.
About 20 years ago I was out on South Road out past Williams, AZ. I pulled off the road to take a hike. There were no campsites, forest service roads… Just forest. I walked into the woods about 45 minutes. Then out of nowhere I heard low, echoing drums coming from all around me. I could not see any people. It was unexpectedly terrifying. I RAN all the way back to my car without stopping. (Made it back in half the time). I realize there probably is a reasonable explanation, however my fear was overwhelming. I’ll never forget that experience.
I've seen nomads living in the wilds of Arizona several times. One time on a road between Florence and Tucson I saw an old timer ride out of the desert in a mule drawn covered wagon, but that was 30 years ago. Im always armed when I camp, I suggest you do the same.
At 61 years old I would have come out of whatever I'm camping in at the time with a Tactical Like super bright and with a strobe mode and 1 or 2 of the various types of weapons I keep with me at all times,I've camped in Coconino Forest a few times and only once did I have an in planned encounter ,Tactical light and lit him up asked if he was lost or needed help,scared the hell out of him when I lit him up,then when he answered in the negative I Politely warned to stay out of my campsite and away from my Equipment, seen him the next day and enjoyed a steak dinner with him turned out he was drunk the night before and just got turned around, we became friends after that!
We were dispersed camping in PNW and we were getting ready for bed. My husband was outside brushing his teeth and hears a truck pull up to the top of the dirt road. I was inside getting stuff organized. I Started hearing some guy yelling nonsense. My hubby came inside and retrieved his gun and went back outside. The dogs were barking their heads off but I got them to pipe down. Could hear the guy yelling and getting closer. My husband steps out of darkness and asked what the heck he wanted. He was mumbling about looking for Amanda. Hubby convinced him to leave.
Just happened upon this channel and it's now my new addiction. Y'all are living the very best life experiences and it's a dream for so many, myself included, we all want to do but only dream of it. The dogs are also having the best life a dog could want. Take care an be safe. Crazies are all over.
Not a fan of the constant background music, especially when y'all are talking and telling the creepy part, but to each his/her own. Stay safe out there and have a blast.
I was attracted by your heading. Took a chance and was not disappointed. You guys are awesome!! Love your dogs, too! I’ve subscribed because I want to see more of the West, especially Sedona and enjoy your adventures as well. Stay safe and have fun!!! ❤️🙏🏻
We are looking forward to making a video of camping in some of our favorite spots in Sedona here in the coming months. As soon as the weather cools down a bit more we plan to get up there for a weekend.
Good to follow your gut and leave! I myself love dispersed car camping, however I've had two strange experiences. First one, my dad had visited from out of state and we went camping on a forest service road. I woke up at 3am to someone in a very loud SxS pulling up right outside camp. Nothing happened, but you can't help but wonder if they had bad intentions but saw two separate vehicles in my campsite and decided to leave. The other time, I was solo, just me and my dog, it was October of last year, about 30 miles in on a backwoods forest service road around 9pm. Had already climbed into the back of my vehicle to start going to sleep when the entire local forest went dead silent, no bugs, no frogs, nothing. Few seconds later, I hear something very large slowly walk by camp. I've got no idea what it was, but the largest predator we have where I'm at is a black bear, and it sounded much larger than that, and as if it was walking on two legs. One, large footstep at a time. I got really uneasy, and while I've been on that road since then, I ain't camping in that area anymore.
Anytime someone pulls up to a remote camp you certainly have to consider their intentions. I think most respectful outdoors people understand we camp this way to be away from people. Your second experience is definitely next level creepy. Glad you and your pup are safe!
@@norcalsawsquatch9854 to be honest, I have no idea. I even looked up soundclips of various fauna walking on a gravel road, and nothing sounded like what I heard. What I heard was obviously bipedal, and had even heavier footsteps than a grizzly. Might I add that this was also in the Appalachian mountains.
@@desertpointadventures yea, I have had people drive by my various campsites late at night, but this was the first time they actually stopped and stayed there for a few minutes. And thank you, yea, every single instinct told me to stay quiet and to not move a muscle, and I was filled with dread. Needless to say, I think I only got about 30 minutes of sleep that entire night haha.
I live in AZ and have caped all over the Flagstaff, Sedona and Williams area there are a lot of survivalist and also homeless people that live in the forest there. They get really good at hiding their stuff you probably weren't in danger but it's always good to follow your gut.
For sure, we certainly didn't feel like we were in immediate danger. We just knew that it seemed like odd behavior. Would not have slept well if we stayed at that specific spot.
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This reminded me of a hike on the hills here in NorCal earlier this year. Like a 10min drive from my home. It was after 5pm and I was on the biggest hill about to descend; & I clearly heard drums and chants in the valley underneath me; these hills are massive they continue from the Oakland area all the way to the San Jose area. I couldn't see ppl or a crowd. I kept on trying to locate it but man it was cool but kinda creeped me out. The sound traveled soo clear and the drums made a bass effect on the hills.....
There is nothing better than "racking Up" a Mossberg 500 12Ga in the middle of the night, when you hear an approaching creature into your camping spot boundaries, it always speaks for itself, no words needed. All you hear is..:: WOE WOE!! I'M LEAVING...I'M LEAVING..!! 😎LoL.
I love four-wheeling around Northern Arizona, don't do a lot of camping but always keep my AR-15 and 9mm close by, have seen some sketchy people way out in the middle of nowhere...no reason for them to be in that location unless they're looking for trouble.
I grew up camping in that area. It's so disappointing that people are disrespectful and insane now days. They do these things just to creep people out. Stay safe.
One thing I’d be concerned of would be blue green algae in those ponds if it’s been hot lately, at least here in Michigan we get a nasty algae and it will kill a dog in a couple hours.
I was on a solo kayak trip in Arkansas one time in a dispersed area of Weyerhaeuser owned forests along the Cossatot River and had rolled in late so just threw out my sleeping bag on the ground in a clearing. In the wee hours I awoke to hear a p/u rolling down the road with some apparent drunks hoopin' and hollerin'. Too tired to worry I just rolled my bag over into some tall grass and went back to sleep. Fortunately they rolled on out w/o incident but did make me a tad nervous. But in the 30+ yrs. I've been camping in odd places all over the U.S. that's the only situation of concern I've encountered. Knock on wood. Enjoy your travels!
A lot of people are rude and don't care if they pass through a campsite. Sounds like they were casing the place to steal- but could have been looking for victims. Good thing you were alert and the dogs probably helped. Sounds like "Deliverance." Locals can be jerks too if "their" party spot is taken. We go armed and NOW we have bought alarms we can place a slight distance away around our sites to alert us to someone or a large animal approaching, and from which direction- when they get close the lights go on. We also have a personal beacon that in and life or death thing like an invasion of criminals we can easily start so if nothing else they'll come soon to the crime scene and hopefully catch them. It's really sad the way the world has gotten so predatory that you can't safely camp without worrying about the humans. We used to be able to leave anything out on the table and go for a walk or swim. A stove, the camera, fishing gear, towels. Now it all has to be locked up, bicycles have to be locked with Vulcan chains so bolt cutters can't snap them. We have cameras in case someone is able to break into our trailer or car so we might get an ID.. Just ridiculous to have to do. Almost unheard of 30-40 years ago. Another thought is tweakers with mobile meth labs and growers also deliberately try to scare people away from "their" area.
I have yet to do some dispersed camping. I’m looking forward to it though. Peace and quiet. I’ve also done a little geocaching, but it’s been years, lots of fun though. Great video. What are your dogs? Shorthair pointers?
I'm not sure if you are familiar with the western USA. There are hundreds of thousands of miles of forest roads. While you are certainly right, solitude is difficult to come by, we have spent many weekends at dispersed camp sites and see no one the entire time.
@@desertpointadventures I am a Westerner born and bred. I have back packed many miles through wilderness areas and have driven into miles of "vacant" desert. Although there are times when I have had the area to myself, I never "expect it.
What caught my eye was your short hairs. We had our Babe girl for 18 years. She was a STELLAR bird dog. All 3 of my sons hunted behind her with my husband. She was Liver colored. We miss her. I enjoyed your video and I did sub. 🙂
I had to laugh at you dog run fail, you know GSP’s are Velcro dogs. My 9 yr GSP passed away June 30th and watching yours play just warms my heart. I miss my girl so much.
While I certainly hope and have considered this could be the case, there were simply too many red flags of somewhat out of the norm behavior. If you were concerned about predatory animals, wouldn't you be using a flashlight/headlamp to navigate the dark woods?
we have the same awning and the awning walls are a lifesaver in rain storms like what you experienced. You should really consider getting them, makes a world of difference in protecting from the elements
Just wondering if you are aware that you can only camp off of designated roads in Coconino National Forest. There are free maps available that indicate roads you are allowed to utilize and roads that you are allowed to camp off of.
A majority of the forest is open to dispersed camping unless designated otherwise. At the time of this video the spur road we camped on was a marked road for motor vehicle use. If you are not in a designated camping corridor you must camp within 30 feet of the side of the road. Within a camping corridor you may camp up to 300 feet of the designated road. The below link is a helpful guide provided by the forest service to know the rules. www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3839183.pdf Safe travels out there!
Dispersed camping is a designation of forest camping with no services. The campsites are not part of a campground, you simply find a suitable area to camp off the road systems in national forest lands. In general, you should look for areas that have been used before to minimize impacts on the forest lands.
We're fairly new to video editing, there are a few newer videos since this has posted and hopefully we have figured out the balance better. Thanks for watching!
you were camped at the top of AB Young trail so someone coming up at night was playing music to ward off wild life and simply walked by to their campsite.
I just looked up AB Young, as far as what I'm seeing this runs west from 89. We were no less than 5 miles east of the 17 (off Rocky Park Rd). It would make me feel much better if this was the case, however based on the maps it's not. We utilize OnX Off Road Maps and there were no close trails or roads.
That area you're in (the downed tree) has Bigfoot activity around it! I do research here in in Indiana, and I see there what I find here.. But the dogs growled at something, 🤔😏.. Now the music is freaky and would weird me out too😮!! In my experience of 40yrs outside, I've never had a problem with "Foots", but the music thing is really weird, so... Cool video, Hoobilly.
I am a loner except for my two dogs. My fear is getting from my camper into my truck if something creepy is happening. Of course I am armed and chances are I won’t miss! Still don’t like the fact I have to get to truck in middle of night to move 😮
So you all don't carry?, I would not go out into those places without the means to protect myself n mine. You don't know who or what is out there, just because you can't see it doesn't mean its not out there!!
I watched an my 1st thought was here are some city folks making a video about what they consider scary or weird. I camp all the time I walk away from my campsite with my radio going all the time. Cuz some spots are better to see the stars and while i enjoy the music it also let's bears mountain lions and wolves know I'm in the neighborhood.
Never go camping out into the wilds and deep woods without a weapon a gun preferred, at minimum an 8" survival knife or machete. I use a sensor-activated intruder alarm and a garden solar motion-activated light too. I also have a couple of loud firecrackers that if I hear any menacing movement outside I light one up and shout "fire in the hold" throw it outside "BANG!!! things quiet down after that.
What you've done in response to this does not promote a safe or smart camping practices. Fleeing at the sign of buttrock was a good move, don't get me wrong. It's the other parts of the non-confrontation: You need to set boundaries with others while in the forest, especially if you intend to or are set up for camp. When somebody is wandering blind, that's their freedom to do, but you MUST confront that person, if not for their own sake, then for the reasons I'll list below. This is because people get shot doing that - camper gets drunk, wanders off-trail onto another trail and into a campsite he can't see. Campers panic and shoot the figure flailing in their tent. In this situation, simply nutting up and shining a flashlight on this individual would have provided you with several invaluable and intangible things: 1. Visual information; no mysteries, good description for the cops. 2. A situational advantage; that person is now blind and surprised, a pacifying combo. 3. An opportunity to confront and dig into their M.O.; "are you lost?" "do you need something?" 4. Establishment of boundaries and authority; Your security is your right on several papers, but in the forest nobody is there to fight for it or protect it but you. Exercising that right is standard Arizonan practice. 5. Self-confidence and experience when it comes to the weirdos 6. Appreciation for whatever method of self-defense you brought and didn't have to use but if you did, you know it would have saved your lives and probably more down the road, weirdos are usually serial weirdos Sorry for long rambly and preachy comment. There are takeaways in everything for the sake of academia, and I feel that the lesson here is that you ruined your own vacation.
I appreciate the thought that went into your comment. You definitely have some valid points. A few things to note, this video does not show the entirety of the situation. I was no longer concerned with recording content when my focus had to change to managing our safety. We broke down the story the best we could the next morning. However many details were not shared, as it was a complex and we were still processing. I believe the right move is whatever gets you out of the situation safely. We accomplished this. We had another great trip this past weekend with no issues. Hope it stays that way, however we are better prepared if we run into problems in the future.
@@desertpointadventures I would agree with all of that. I am happy to hear you had a good experience afterward! As a viewer of content I take what I am given and work with it so I apologize for fronting with an aggressive attitude. It's very hit or miss who has a conscience. You clearly do and I am grateful to see that. Cheers
@@desertpointadventures I believe trusting your gut and the signs from your dogs that this was a situation that was best to retreat and move. I believe your safety comes first versus trying to stand your ground versus some weirdo(s?) in the woods. How are you supposed to relax and enjoy the outdoors when you're looking over your shoulder? You made the right choice!
Very creepy hearing sounds in the woods where there should be no one but yourself. But be weird, be creep, and stay alive is a good motto. AND fyi, the small warm pond in the middle of the woods...not a good place for your furry family members. 1 swim and within hours you could be watching them cross the rainbow bridge. Toxic and deadly Blue-Green Algae cases are on the rise with the warmer climate. My dogs are my rock so just a friendly reminder.
Not that it matters but I would have left too. Ghosts don't play country music and people with the intention of doing you harm don't announce their presence, but y'all are seeking quiet and seclusion and you didn't have it there. For me, the best part of living in my vehicle is the fact that I can leave at any time with a few minutes notice. If the wind isn't blowing in the direction I like, I will move so I'm definitely going to move if I'm not sure what's going on.
To be fair, I would have confronted the person for disrupting somebody else's campsite and letting them know why they're not being responsible with their presence or movement - but then also moved lol buttrock is a red flag...
Why do you seem to feel you should be the only people there? You're near a geo cache. I often get dropped off at one location and hike/camp my way to another location to be picked up. Generally a camping area so a camp can be set up upon arrival for me or the pickup vehicle. Just saying. JMHO
A few things to consider; As stated in the video the geocache had not been located in 2 years. This is a remote dispersed camping. Of course there might be people around, however there were no signs of people in the area for quite a long time. Additionally the person came from the direction of our dead end side forest road. Our camp was lit up with large bulb string lights and very obvious from a distance. Most respectful outdoors people hiking through the woods off trail would avoid close contact. In my opinion, any normal person hiking in the dark would have also been using a flash light. To linger around a camp for 5-10 minutes lights off is NOT normal. There were too many red flags of abnormal behavior for what you expect from a reasonable person.
The first sign of something off was at the tail end of dusk. We packed up in the dark and moved. It was a comically slow getaway as it had stormed earlier in the day and the already rough road was quite muddy.
You never know what your going to run into out like that . Ive camped all over Death Valley , Mojave and joshua tree i always pack weaponry. Better to have and not need than to need and not have
I have certainly considered this, but there are much better ways to pass by a remote campsite. Either walk by and say a quick hi, or go way out and around. To linger around playing music is just plain weird.
I was interested in this after our trip. If you have any recommendations, feel free to share! Thanks. Hopefully we don't have any future issues, however it would still be a fun thing to have for wildlife and checking out camp.
That's such a trip that your visitor just navigated by moonlight to get there and then just hung out. How odd. I dig your Xterra. My Scoutmaster had one, and it was a rad little SUV. Nissan died when they killed off their good SUVs for their current lineup of jellybean cars.
This video has gone well beyond our wildest expectations. We primarily have made videos to share our trips with our family, friends and the Hiker Trailer community. Thanks to those who have commented both positively and critically, however blatant negativity will be removed immediately. At this point, responding to defend why we felt creeped out will not bring any new light to what occurred. I would love to be a little less worried about both the big and small things in life. Read through the comment reply's for a little extra context beyond the video and description. Our goal more than anything else is to showcase the beauty of the southwest and inspire others to get out and enjoy it, however you may choose. Safe travels to you all, be sure you "pack it out" if you enjoy our national lands. Please bring some joy to those around you. Thanks for watching!
I read a story about a woman's adventure of bicycling across country with her child with her (don't recall if a son or daughter) and one afternoon they set up camp and a couple of guys came over and chatted a while and although there was no indication of anything, she felt uncomfortable knowing there was someone else, strangers knowing where she was. She moved her camp away and up a hill where she could see but not be seen. Sure enough, late in the night those guys came back. She saw their flashlights and saw them walking around the area looking for her. She kept quiet in case of echo (which she heard from them) and it was clear they came back for no good. ALWAYS move when creepy people come around, or too weirdly overly nice almost needy to please people. They too can turn.
This is crazy! I always think of this video when I talk to people about creepy camping, but your story aligns with it as well. I'll remember this
that’s why you have to carry when camping
That is so chilling. Why do people have to be creeps? Sucks that would be so scary to experience in real time. Evil is out there and I'll never understand why people want to hurt other people. Makes no sense.
I camped around there years ago. It was at a tree that had been hit by lightning and it felt weird but we were too tired to move. Pitched tent ate went to bed. I wake up in the middle of the night I hear distant drumming and chanting. It went on for hours never stopping. It's sacred Navajo land. I was thrilled to know I experienced it.
That would be a really interesting experience!
About 20 years ago I was out on South Road out past Williams, AZ. I pulled off the road to take a hike. There were no campsites, forest service roads… Just forest. I walked into the woods about 45 minutes. Then out of nowhere I heard low, echoing drums coming from all around me. I could not see any people. It was unexpectedly terrifying. I RAN all the way back to my car without stopping. (Made it back in half the time). I realize there probably is a reasonable explanation, however my fear was overwhelming. I’ll never forget that experience.
I've seen nomads living in the wilds of Arizona several times. One time on a road between Florence and Tucson I saw an old timer ride out of the desert in a mule drawn covered wagon, but that was 30 years ago. Im always armed when I camp, I suggest you do the same.
Better to be armed and ready.
When on or near a drug highway you could really run into some dangerous problems too
@@collinsfriend1 Or you could get a sweet deal on some drugs.
@@7996hobguy lol
I could watch scary isolated woods stories all night and not get bored. this one was really good
At 61 years old I would have come out of whatever I'm camping in at the time with a Tactical Like super bright and with a strobe mode and 1 or 2 of the various types of weapons I keep with me at all times,I've camped in Coconino Forest a few times and only once did I have an in planned encounter ,Tactical light and lit him up asked if he was lost or needed help,scared the hell out of him when I lit him up,then when he answered in the negative I Politely warned to stay out of my campsite and away from my Equipment, seen him the next day and enjoyed a steak dinner with him turned out he was drunk the night before and just got turned around, we became friends after that!
Awesome story
I’m leaning about camping. May I ask what does a hiker do when encountering a camp site? Is their a yardage or rule of thumb to follow?
We were dispersed camping in PNW and we were getting ready for bed. My husband was outside brushing his teeth and hears a truck pull up to the top of the dirt road. I was inside getting stuff organized. I Started hearing some guy yelling nonsense. My hubby came inside and retrieved his gun and went back outside. The dogs were barking their heads off but I got them to pipe down. Could hear the guy yelling and getting closer. My husband steps out of darkness and asked what the heck he wanted. He was mumbling about looking for Amanda. Hubby convinced him to leave.
Just happened upon this channel and it's now my new addiction. Y'all are living the very best life experiences and it's a dream for so many, myself included, we all want to do but only dream of it. The dogs are also having the best life a dog could want. Take care an be safe. Crazies are all over.
I love a creepy story of the woods so I subscribed. Thank you for sharing. I'll be watching your vids from here on. God bless and be safe out there.
I LOVE your dogs!! Great video and glad you moved!
Not a fan of the constant background music, especially when y'all are talking and telling the creepy part, but to each his/her own. Stay safe out there and have a blast.
I was attracted by your heading. Took a chance and was not disappointed. You guys are awesome!! Love your dogs, too! I’ve subscribed because I want to see more of the West, especially Sedona and enjoy your adventures as well. Stay safe and have fun!!! ❤️🙏🏻
We are looking forward to making a video of camping in some of our favorite spots in Sedona here in the coming months. As soon as the weather cools down a bit more we plan to get up there for a weekend.
Good to follow your gut and leave! I myself love dispersed car camping, however I've had two strange experiences. First one, my dad had visited from out of state and we went camping on a forest service road. I woke up at 3am to someone in a very loud SxS pulling up right outside camp. Nothing happened, but you can't help but wonder if they had bad intentions but saw two separate vehicles in my campsite and decided to leave.
The other time, I was solo, just me and my dog, it was October of last year, about 30 miles in on a backwoods forest service road around 9pm. Had already climbed into the back of my vehicle to start going to sleep when the entire local forest went dead silent, no bugs, no frogs, nothing. Few seconds later, I hear something very large slowly walk by camp. I've got no idea what it was, but the largest predator we have where I'm at is a black bear, and it sounded much larger than that, and as if it was walking on two legs. One, large footstep at a time. I got really uneasy, and while I've been on that road since then, I ain't camping in that area anymore.
Was it Big Foot? 🤔 lol
Anytime someone pulls up to a remote camp you certainly have to consider their intentions. I think most respectful outdoors people understand we camp this way to be away from people.
Your second experience is definitely next level creepy. Glad you and your pup are safe!
@@norcalsawsquatch9854 to be honest, I have no idea. I even looked up soundclips of various fauna walking on a gravel road, and nothing sounded like what I heard. What I heard was obviously bipedal, and had even heavier footsteps than a grizzly. Might I add that this was also in the Appalachian mountains.
@@desertpointadventures yea, I have had people drive by my various campsites late at night, but this was the first time they actually stopped and stayed there for a few minutes.
And thank you, yea, every single instinct told me to stay quiet and to not move a muscle, and I was filled with dread. Needless to say, I think I only got about 30 minutes of sleep that entire night haha.
That was definitely a Dogman
When in doubt - always flee LOL I like to go to quiet places too but yeah creepy when you see other people out there ....
I live in AZ and have caped all over the Flagstaff, Sedona and Williams area there are a lot of survivalist and also homeless people that live in the forest there. They get really good at hiding their stuff you probably weren't in danger but it's always good to follow your gut.
For sure, we certainly didn't feel like we were in immediate danger. We just knew that it seemed like odd behavior. Would not have slept well if we stayed at that specific spot.
We prefer to be called backpackers and nomads. Survivalist is pushing it a bit. ❤️🤍💙
@SwampyColorado420 nomads and backpackers are there to as well as the other groups I named.
That's a sweet little camper, nice little adventure. Subbed 👍
Wise decision there’s a lot of unsavory folks out there to put it politely always listen to your intuition especially when you’re out in the sticks first time coming across your channel new subscriber🐶😎🐶🤜🤛🐶🐶😎😎
Cool vid , love the drone shots .... love to camp , dogs seem to know and sadly its the 2 legged critters you gotta watch out for......
This reminded me of a hike on the hills here in NorCal earlier this year. Like a 10min drive from my home. It was after 5pm and I was on the biggest hill about to descend; & I clearly heard drums and chants in the valley underneath me; these hills are massive they continue from the Oakland area all the way to the San Jose area. I couldn't see ppl or a crowd. I kept on trying to locate it but man it was cool but kinda creeped me out. The sound traveled soo clear and the drums made a bass effect on the hills.....
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Take care out there
There is nothing better than "racking Up" a Mossberg 500 12Ga in the middle of the night, when you hear an approaching creature into your camping spot boundaries, it always speaks for itself, no words needed. All you hear is..:: WOE WOE!! I'M LEAVING...I'M LEAVING..!! 😎LoL.
I love four-wheeling around Northern Arizona, don't do a lot of camping but always keep my AR-15 and 9mm close by, have seen some sketchy people way out in the middle of nowhere...no reason for them to be in that location unless they're looking for trouble.
Yikes how creepy. Another great video!
I grew up camping in that area. It's so disappointing that people are disrespectful and insane now days. They do these things just to creep people out. Stay safe.
Yea that's why they need a shot to the Head 🗣️🗣️✌️
One thing I’d be concerned of would be blue green algae in those ponds if it’s been hot lately, at least here in Michigan we get a nasty algae and it will kill a dog in a couple hours.
We are definitely aware and keep a cautious eye out! Fortunately it's pretty uncommon here in the west.
I wouldn’t have let my pups swim in there.
I was on a solo kayak trip in Arkansas one time in a dispersed area of Weyerhaeuser owned forests along the Cossatot River and had rolled in late so just threw out my sleeping bag on the ground in a clearing. In the wee hours I awoke to hear a p/u rolling down the road with some apparent drunks hoopin' and hollerin'. Too tired to worry I just rolled my bag over into some tall grass and went back to sleep. Fortunately they rolled on out w/o incident but did make me a tad nervous. But in the 30+ yrs. I've been camping in odd places all over the U.S. that's the only situation of concern I've encountered. Knock on wood. Enjoy your travels!
It's probably people in another camp far away. You can tell you guys don't camp much if you think it was creepy.
Such a nice area. Stay safe. 😊
A lot of people are rude and don't care if they pass through a campsite. Sounds like they were casing the place to steal- but could have been looking for victims. Good thing you were alert and the dogs probably helped. Sounds like "Deliverance." Locals can be jerks too if "their" party spot is taken.
We go armed and NOW we have bought alarms we can place a slight distance away around our sites to alert us to someone or a large animal approaching, and from which direction- when they get close the lights go on. We also have a personal beacon that in and life or death thing like an invasion of criminals we can easily start so if nothing else they'll come soon to the crime scene and hopefully catch them.
It's really sad the way the world has gotten so predatory that you can't safely camp without worrying about the humans.
We used to be able to leave anything out on the table and go for a walk or swim. A stove, the camera, fishing gear, towels. Now it all has to be locked up, bicycles have to be locked with Vulcan chains so bolt cutters can't snap them. We have cameras in case someone is able to break into our trailer or car so we might get an ID.. Just ridiculous to have to do. Almost unheard of 30-40 years ago.
Another thought is tweakers with mobile meth labs and growers also deliberately try to scare people away from "their" area.
Thank you Sackler family!
Good looking GSP!
This would be awesome to be out there during a storm, except for the lightning, great video guys
It really is a great experience to camp in storms, especially here in AZ. Thanks!
I’ll subscribe, if anything, because that’s a GSP!
Same lol
That was a bit on the disturbing side. Thanks for sharing.
I have yet to do some dispersed camping. I’m looking forward to it though. Peace and quiet. I’ve also done a little geocaching, but it’s been years, lots of fun though. Great video. What are your dogs? Shorthair pointers?
It’s the only way we camp at this point. Great to be able to let the dogs off leash the whole trip! Yes they are both German Shorthairs.
I've been known to wake up at other campsites , naked....hungover...and still huggin my bottle of Jack...
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People get killed doing just that!
Dude, where's my pants?
If you can get there by car you will never be there alone. Pure solitude can only happen when backpacking. Even then it isn't likely.
I'm not sure if you are familiar with the western USA. There are hundreds of thousands of miles of forest roads. While you are certainly right, solitude is difficult to come by, we have spent many weekends at dispersed camp sites and see no one the entire time.
@@desertpointadventures I am a Westerner born and bred. I have back packed many miles through wilderness areas and have driven into miles of "vacant" desert. Although there are times when I have had the area to myself, I never "expect it.
Beautiful dogs. I have a German shorthair named Harley. I always stay armed when I hike in the woods, but dogs are a good protection system as well.
Looks like fun except for the creepy part. Lol. Subscribed
Beautiful puppers.
That's so true, you have to trust your instincts, we often don't. Yes I'm a crime junkie too!!
Beautiful dogs!
Thanks!
What caught my eye was your short hairs. We had our Babe girl for 18 years. She was a STELLAR bird dog. All 3 of my sons hunted behind her with my husband. She was Liver colored. We miss her. I enjoyed your video and I did sub. 🙂
I had to laugh at you dog run fail, you know GSP’s are Velcro dogs. My 9 yr GSP passed away June 30th and watching yours play just warms my heart. I miss my girl so much.
Sorry to hear, they are truly great dogs!
I would have moved too! I have also listened to too many true crime podcasts! 😂
Walking back from a late hike playing music to ward off predatory animals.
The road may end but the trail goes on forever
While I certainly hope and have considered this could be the case, there were simply too many red flags of somewhat out of the norm behavior. If you were concerned about predatory animals, wouldn't you be using a flashlight/headlamp to navigate the dark woods?
Probably squatters from those 2 cabins or even the tower
Happy Family.
we have the same awning and the awning walls are a lifesaver in rain storms like what you experienced. You should really consider getting them, makes a world of difference in protecting from the elements
Seen too much Missing 411. I don't do outdoors anymore. Nope.
I love German Shorthair Pointers, what are your dogs names?
I think they were hiking off trail type of hiking. But it’s always good to follow your gut. ❤️
Just wondering if you are aware that you can only camp off of designated roads in Coconino National Forest. There are free maps available that indicate roads you are allowed to utilize and roads that you are allowed to camp off of.
A majority of the forest is open to dispersed camping unless designated otherwise. At the time of this video the spur road we camped on was a marked road for motor vehicle use. If you are not in a designated camping corridor you must camp within 30 feet of the side of the road. Within a camping corridor you may camp up to 300 feet of the designated road. The below link is a helpful guide provided by the forest service to know the rules. www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3839183.pdf
Safe travels out there!
Glad you have your dogs.
Buttrock! Instant Subscriber...YES!!!
indeed it's always best to listen to your instinct, even if your not right.
So what is “dispersed camping”?
Dispersed camping is a designation of forest camping with no services. The campsites are not part of a campground, you simply find a suitable area to camp off the road systems in national forest lands. In general, you should look for areas that have been used before to minimize impacts on the forest lands.
Forgot to mention, just subscribed to your channel about an hour ago
Smart thinking!
That was a strange experience. You have beautiful dogs.
Good video, but why is the music so loud? Can't hardly hear the talking because of the music.
We're fairly new to video editing, there are a few newer videos since this has posted and hopefully we have figured out the balance better. Thanks for watching!
Might want to invest in night vision. Stomping towards the sound with a machete could also be effective.
Never apologize for listening to your instinct.
you were camped at the top of AB Young trail so someone coming up at night was playing music to ward off wild life and simply walked by to their campsite.
I just looked up AB Young, as far as what I'm seeing this runs west from 89. We were no less than 5 miles east of the 17 (off Rocky Park Rd). It would make me feel much better if this was the case, however based on the maps it's not. We utilize OnX Off Road Maps and there were no close trails or roads.
I always take my pvs14 night vision camping....
Creepy.
New sub ☘️
Interesting, hopefully you guys are lucky enough to spot a UFO close up and get clear video of it! Would be worth a Lot.
That’s why it’s called camping! Never no who or what else is camping near bye!! 😆 stay safe
That area you're in (the downed tree) has Bigfoot activity around it! I do research here in in Indiana, and I see there what I find here.. But the dogs growled at something, 🤔😏.. Now the music is freaky and would weird me out too😮!! In my experience of 40yrs outside, I've never had a problem with "Foots", but the music thing is really weird, so... Cool video, Hoobilly.
I am a loner except for my two dogs. My fear is getting from my camper into my truck if something creepy is happening. Of course I am armed and chances are I won’t miss! Still don’t like the fact I have to get to truck in middle of night to move 😮
So you all don't carry?, I would not go out into those places without the means to protect myself n mine. You don't know who or what is out there, just because you can't see it doesn't mean its not out there!!
It can be a pain to break camp, but the pain you may avoided would be worse...
Agreed, we were torn at first but the longer we waited we knew it was time to move.
I watched an my 1st thought was here are some city folks making a video about what they consider scary or weird. I camp all the time I walk away from my campsite with my radio going all the time. Cuz some spots are better to see the stars and while i enjoy the music it also let's bears mountain lions and wolves know I'm in the neighborhood.
Never go camping out into the wilds and deep woods without a weapon a gun preferred, at minimum an 8" survival knife or machete. I use a sensor-activated intruder alarm and a garden solar motion-activated light too. I also have a couple of loud firecrackers that if I hear any menacing movement outside I light one up and shout "fire in the hold" throw it outside "BANG!!! things quiet down after that.
Ideally any law abiding sane person should be packing anywhere. Especially with all these crazy liberals running around terrorizing the country. ❤️🤍💙
It could have been a sasquatch. With an ipod.
Cheap and affordable night vision is available. It is a piece of mind, a force multiplier and gives you a one up when you can see into the darkness.
We bought a set after this trip! Love having an extra tool for the upper hand in safety, thankfully only been used for fun since.
Are your dogs Plot Hounds? They are pretty. I have a black Lab/Plot Hound. Shes beautiful.
They are German Shorthaired Pointers.
What you've done in response to this does not promote a safe or smart camping practices. Fleeing at the sign of buttrock was a good move, don't get me wrong. It's the other parts of the non-confrontation:
You need to set boundaries with others while in the forest, especially if you intend to or are set up for camp. When somebody is wandering blind, that's their freedom to do, but you MUST confront that person, if not for their own sake, then for the reasons I'll list below. This is because people get shot doing that - camper gets drunk, wanders off-trail onto another trail and into a campsite he can't see. Campers panic and shoot the figure flailing in their tent.
In this situation, simply nutting up and shining a flashlight on this individual would have provided you with several invaluable and intangible things:
1. Visual information; no mysteries, good description for the cops.
2. A situational advantage; that person is now blind and surprised, a pacifying combo.
3. An opportunity to confront and dig into their M.O.; "are you lost?" "do you need something?"
4. Establishment of boundaries and authority; Your security is your right on several papers, but in the forest nobody is there to fight for it or protect it but you. Exercising that right is standard Arizonan practice.
5. Self-confidence and experience when it comes to the weirdos
6. Appreciation for whatever method of self-defense you brought and didn't have to use but if you did, you know it would have saved your lives and probably more down the road, weirdos are usually serial weirdos
Sorry for long rambly and preachy comment. There are takeaways in everything for the sake of academia, and I feel that the lesson here is that you ruined your own vacation.
I appreciate the thought that went into your comment. You definitely have some valid points.
A few things to note, this video does not show the entirety of the situation. I was no longer concerned with recording content when my focus had to change to managing our safety.
We broke down the story the best we could the next morning. However many details were not shared, as it was a complex and we were still processing.
I believe the right move is whatever gets you out of the situation safely. We accomplished this.
We had another great trip this past weekend with no issues. Hope it stays that way, however we are better prepared if we run into problems in the future.
@@desertpointadventures I would agree with all of that. I am happy to hear you had a good experience afterward! As a viewer of content I take what I am given and work with it so I apologize for fronting with an aggressive attitude. It's very hit or miss who has a conscience. You clearly do and I am grateful to see that. Cheers
@@desertpointadventures I believe trusting your gut and the signs from your dogs that this was a situation that was best to retreat and move. I believe your safety comes first versus trying to stand your ground versus some weirdo(s?) in the woods. How are you supposed to relax and enjoy the outdoors when you're looking over your shoulder? You made the right choice!
Very creepy hearing sounds in the woods where there should be no one but yourself. But be weird, be creep, and stay alive is a good motto. AND fyi, the small warm pond in the middle of the woods...not a good place for your furry family members. 1 swim and within hours you could be watching them cross the rainbow bridge. Toxic and deadly Blue-Green Algae cases are on the rise with the warmer climate. My dogs are my rock so just a friendly reminder.
this is why I carry a FLIR Scout Tx thermal monocular... and a Benelli M4... :)
I have a 1911, a big dog, and a set of balls. ❤️🤍💙
I def ain't concerned if I hear a backpacker with a Bluetooth speaker. 🤡
I'm so ready to do this. I have an old hippie soul and its been my.dream to have the freedom of a nomadic life!!
If for any reason you feel uncomfortable get out of there
If you hear Banjo Music, Run,Run,Run , and don't look back.🤣🤣
Not that it matters but I would have left too. Ghosts don't play country music and people with the intention of doing you harm don't announce their presence, but y'all are seeking quiet and seclusion and you didn't have it there. For me, the best part of living in my vehicle is the fact that I can leave at any time with a few minutes notice. If the wind isn't blowing in the direction I like, I will move so I'm definitely going to move if I'm not sure what's going on.
Lol, buttrock. Great choice of moving
To be fair, I would have confronted the person for disrupting somebody else's campsite and letting them know why they're not being responsible with their presence or movement - but then also moved lol buttrock is a red flag...
Why do you seem to feel you should be the only people there? You're near a geo cache. I often get dropped off at one location and hike/camp my way to another location to be picked up. Generally a camping area so a camp can be set up upon arrival for me or the pickup vehicle. Just saying. JMHO
A few things to consider;
As stated in the video the geocache had not been located in 2 years. This is a remote dispersed camping. Of course there might be people around, however there were no signs of people in the area for quite a long time. Additionally the person came from the direction of our dead end side forest road.
Our camp was lit up with large bulb string lights and very obvious from a distance. Most respectful outdoors people hiking through the woods off trail would avoid close contact. In my opinion, any normal person hiking in the dark would have also been using a flash light. To linger around a camp for 5-10 minutes lights off is NOT normal.
There were too many red flags of abnormal behavior for what you expect from a reasonable person.
Stay strapped and use night vision optics, beware of cryptids, skin walkers
Yep.. nothing like carrying a weapon that will have zero impact on anything metaphysical or otherworldly. How many times can the dead be killed?
@@virginiaviola5097 skin walkers aren’t undead. They can be killed by bullets dipped in ashes 🫶 those weapons work on tweakers too
Always follow your gut.
Keep a can of hornet spray on hand. It can spray 30 feet and take a Bear down.
Never ignore your fears. They keep us alive. You had to pack up and leave by night?
The first sign of something off was at the tail end of dusk. We packed up in the dark and moved. It was a comically slow getaway as it had stormed earlier in the day and the already rough road was quite muddy.
@Pat Luxor 😂
If this had happened somewhere in the UK, it would have been a classic Fae story, though perhaps with different music.
You never know what your going to run into out like that . Ive camped all over Death Valley , Mojave and joshua tree i always pack weaponry. Better to have and not need than to need and not have
Those people were probably sketchedbout by you guys lol
I have certainly considered this, but there are much better ways to pass by a remote campsite. Either walk by and say a quick hi, or go way out and around. To linger around playing music is just plain weird.
You can acquire Night Vision at an affordable price. It completely changes the game at night, and only uses a few batteries.
I was interested in this after our trip. If you have any recommendations, feel free to share! Thanks. Hopefully we don't have any future issues, however it would still be a fun thing to have for wildlife and checking out camp.
It was probably a hiker or a mountain biker listening to music.
cool dogs
That's such a trip that your visitor just navigated by moonlight to get there and then just hung out. How odd.
I dig your Xterra. My Scoutmaster had one, and it was a rad little SUV. Nissan died when they killed off their good SUVs for their current lineup of jellybean cars.
No food shots? What kind of overland video is this?
😂 It was a canned food trip, not very interesting haha.
when you feeling not good..just remember all that horror movies, and the schemes..
Most likely it was Moby.
ARE THEY YOUR DOGS???
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