@@alananimus9145 also you can see the letter yod in yeshua name. This is the smallest letter in that alphabet and jesus aka yeshua mentioned it cleverly when he said not one jot of the law shall pass away. This is also the first letter of the tetragammatron of yod he vav he which god said who he was to moses at the burning bush (i am who i am or i am what i shall prove to be or simply i am the truth)
@@starcapture3040 I, as Jewish Israeli man fully agree. A Palestinian state is long overdue right here where they lived for centuries. Sadly, I am in the minority here. It's so freaking frustrating that seeing the Palestinian people as, well, people, is a radical opinion today. It is infuriating.
@@TalLikesThat So you agree for one democratic secular civil state with new constitution and flag. including return of the Palestinian refugees to their cities?
@@starcapture3040 That has already happened when Israel shook off the shackles of Islamic Imperialism and reclaimed Israel. Pre 1964 if you called a Muslim in Israel a Palestinian they would have killed you the same as you calling them a Jew. Go and look at the 1938 Palestine Flag with a Star of David on it, or the Palestinian coins with Menorahs and Stars of David on them, or even look at the Palestine Museum that only has a photo of Arafat in it and is otherwise empty.
@@mikenyr4life491 There is no such thing as israel in history. imagine naming land of others by some jews who immigrated to it from Mesopotamia by this word The one who wrestled with god. israel has only right to exist in the Torah no where else unless you think british imperialism is way go but pooo Muslims who allowed jews into the land of the aramaic canaanites again after being completely banished by Christion romans who named the jews as jesus killers. Palestine belong to its people the brits have no right to occupy other people 's land than give the land to settlers who decided the land belong to them by God signature... this tragic and laughable at the same time.
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@TechBearSeattle What makes you think I'm not a scholar? And being on youboob doesn't make one a professional. I was born and raised Orthodox Jew read and write Hebrew and studied in Yeshiva - Talmud, Zohar Kabbala, and Baal Shem Tov. These guys talk some extra biblical stuff in making their case but they are Bible and Gospel illiterates. John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
I agree the phonetic transcriptions are very helpful! But they aren't IPA; for instance, the voiceless alveolar fricative would be transcribed as /ʃ/ and not as in this (fantastic) video, and the vowel lengths would also not be represented by diacritics. It appears to be NAPA in fact; regardless, the phonological representations do really help :)
As a cantonese speaker, we address Jesus as Yesou which amazingly close to the original pronunciation despite both languages comes from different era and region.
JESUS CHRIST HAMASHIACH ALMIGHTY GOD UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE CALL HIM WHEN WE SEEK HIM WITH OUR WHOLE HEART, different languages use different pronunciations for the same name eg Peter, pedro
Interestingly, his original name is Breakfast. It was a scribal note that added the “Religion for”. Later scribes just started putting them together by mistake. No one really knows why people started calling him “Andrew.”
I can agree with that, my dad who is Bengali was born in December 25th, so his family nickname is Zeesu (pronounced very similar to Yeshu). I always thought it’s similar to “Jesus” but not. I come to find out now my dads nickname is closer to ancient pronunciation. Lol.
Interesting because Eesho is basically the same as his islamic name aka Eessa Usually "sh" from Hebrew or Aramaic becomes "s" in Arabic and "o" becomes "a" Christians usually call him Yaasuu in Arabic, which is basically Yeshua from Aramaic
I am ashamed as a Christian believer that I did not know this... this changes so much for me. Thank you so much for educating us on this. I and many others truly appreciate it.
Dont be ashamed because faith is going directly under your heart not on the outer face many can fool you on the outer face but they cannot fool you deeply heart... he is there always with you.
In Arabic, Jesus's name differs depending on whether it's the Christian or Muslim version: for Christians, his name is "Yassou^" with the "guttural Ayn sound" at the end (one of six Arabic throat based letters), and for Muslims his name is "^eessa" with the Ayn at the beginning of the name. Moreover, the prophet Yusha^ Ibn Noon is named like that in the Qur'an, as if they each had different names!
Yes, with my Malayalam and Syriac heritage plus having been brought up in the Gulf, the variations were always fascinating and I just realised that the ع is at opposite ends for the two commonly seen Arabic forms of the name.
As always, I love your thoroughness and the level of detail you go into in these videos. I’ve always wondered why in Modern Hebrew we say “Yeshu” (ישו) rather than what I thought was the authentic form of the name, Yeshua (ישוע).
I've heard that this was a variation, and the it was a common name at the time (though I was never given evidenceof other "Yeshu"s). There's a folk etymology that "yeshu" is an acronym for a defamation, but it's never written as an acronym either...
The folk etymology is ישו, ימך שמו וזכרו (May his name be erased). But obviously it's simply a short ישוע. Like they said in the video the a at the end was added later so the pharyngeal ע was simply deleted in some biblical Hebrew dialects (just like modern Hebrew).
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
Some perspective from a different side of the world: I live in Kerala, India. Where Christianity arrived fairly early, there are legends that St. Thomas himself had come to the shores of Kerala. The region was an important part of the spice trade hub (Black Pepper is originally from here) and had trade relations going back to antiquity with the near East. There were populations of Jews in Kerala during the time Christianity spread around here, either because of that (earliest converts being Jews who might have spoken a similar dialect) or because the earliest Christians having been converted by people who spoke such a dialect themselves, people usually say 'Yešu/Yēšu' here for Jesus. However the Syriac form also exists in the vernacular 'Išo' (and there are Syriac Churches here from later Syriac Christians arriving here). Archaic names like 'Yohannan' exist here. YHWH is pronounced 'Yahо̄va/Yehо̄va'. Christianity here followed quite a different trajectory from the West until the arrival of the Portugese (Vasco da Gama) and is worth studying on its own. PS: I haven't read any academic discussions on what might the Jews of Kerala before the advent of Christianity might have spoken (or whether they were even a homogenous group of their own). It is also quite likely that they might've adopted the regional language to some extent, having intermarried with the local population somewhat.
I am one of those Syrian Christians. So can attest to it. Thomas came to Kerala exactly because of the Spice trade. If you look at Jew history you would notice am interesting fact... The only place they lived peacefully without any issues from the locals was Kerala. So Kerala had a very sizable Jew population. So one might ask why doesn't it have that much now? Well most of these Jews just went to Israel. Malayalam is even now taught in their schools due to it
@@caniblmolstr4503 Cochin Jews aren't that large diaspora wise, are they? I've heard that a lot of Jews initially might've converted to Christianity as well. And after a point in time, the people coming for trade became overwhelmingly Christian as opposed to any other faith. Although much of what I've read are 'books' on the topic, written by local historians but without references to solid papers.
Great video! As a Muslim & Arabic speaker (sister language to Hebrew), it’s noteworthy to mention that the Qur’ān interestingly calls Jesus “‘Īsa” (with a guttural ‘Ayn at the BEGINNING-not end), contrary to what many modern Arab Christians today call Jesus, which is “Yesū’” with the hard ‘Y’ sound and guttural ‘A’ at the end (in alignment with the Hebrew ‘Yeshū’’. So the Qur’ān seems to be paralleling the Eastern Syriac pronunciation of “Isho” or “Isu” as mentioned in the video, but converting the Shīn (‘sh-‘) into an S-sound, while retaining a guttural Ayn, that it places at the beginning. Of course, as a Muslim, I am biased towards believing “Isho” or “Isu” to be the correct & original historical pronunciation by Jesus’s townsfolk. But I guess we’ll never know for exact sure, academically speaking. Also interestingly however, is that it’s been found by recent ancient Arabian inscriptions that the name “‘Īsa” (as the Qur’ān uses it) existed before Islam presumably for the name of Jesus, and which bore the meaning of “to purchase or redeem” (in apparent connection with the belief of Christ’s sacrificial atonement), but which also very well may have been a later meaning ascribed to the name by Christians as a result of their theology, rather than the other way around. I hope Andrew can make another video discussing the exact MEANING of the name “Jesus” (or Yeshu/Iso) in all of these different dialectical variations (of course “God saves” is a classic interpretation), and how that contributed if at all to people’s thoughts & views of Jesus in the early period. Either way, thanks for the dropping the knowledge!
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@Lilithksheh7723 It doesn't matter since Yeshua cannot be Jesus' name. The name has to interpret as "God With Us". Joshua/Yeshua does not translate as that. So not the name. A Greek alternative was used. Something like Zusa, using Zeus as the generic word for God.
According to the Quran, the name variations of Jesus (pbuh) comes in two forms عيسى (Isa) with the sound Ain in the beginning and يسوع (Yasua) with the sound Ain at the end, and when connecting the idea of the name development in the region it seems to me that the name is derived from another name which is يوشع بن نون (Yausha Bin Noon) with the Ain at the end of the first name, the commander who lead the tribes to the holy land.
It's weird that even in Thailand they seem to pronounce it very close to what is presented here as original Aramaic; in Thai, Jesus is pronounced 'yay-su'. (su as 'soo', as in 'super') Typically with the 'phra' honorific that's also used for Buddhist monks and teachers: Phra Yesu. I'm now wondering if this is because of earlier exposure to Jesus' name by middle eastern contacts, or that it's just because in Thai you can't really have an S at the end of a word, or else it'll become a 't' sond which wouldn't sound nice so 19th century Western missionaries went with Yesu..
Thailand had contact with the early missionaries of Christianity the same way the west coast of india did(mainly just Keralas coast). The trade brought the early missionaries to se asia
It's fascinating that the Chinese (where only a tiny percentage is Christian) pronounce the name of Jesus better than English speakers (where Christianity is the majority religion)
@@praevasc4299 This is because Jesus's name (as well as Peter's, John's and even Caesar's name) evolved along with the languages, while the Chinese borrowed the pronunciation from Latin /ˈjeː.suːs/ in the Sixteenth Century from the Jesuits who arrived with the Portuguese.
@@praevasc4299 When jesus going to leave this world, he instructed his 12 students to spread his teaching and gospel to the whole world, at that time there is no plane, where Israel is nearer to the west, so the west should receive first, and follow by others, later
Huh, what's interesting is that in Russian Joshua is consistently translated as Jesus ('Iesous'). Russian Synodal Bible uses "Jesus" to refer to both Joshua son of Nun and Joshua the High Priest, as well as Jesus himself. The Old Testament was translated from Hebrew but they did take the Septuagint into consideration so maybe that's why the name stayed consistent. Great video, I never realised that Joshua and Jesus were the same name.
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
it was fake anyway..Horus was his name when the Greeks ruled..Isis -Mary---Horus-->Jesus....4000 BC Greeks changed all the Africa religions...Serapis Christus 325 BC..
Orthodox Jew here. Great video, and great info on the difference in pronunciation of the Aramaic compared to Hebrew, not many people know that. We see this a lot when we study Talmud. I would caution that Yeshu is mentioned on the Talmud, but we still don’t know if it’s referring to subject of the video specifically. Second Temple Judaism dealt with a of Sectarian heretics, so we do not know if “Yeshu” in the Talmud is referring to this specific Yeshu. Yeshu written in the Talmud is either יש׳ו or ישו, regardless the it is an acronym for ימח שמו וזכרו (Yimach Shemo V’Zikhro) or “May his name be blotted out from history”
Fun fact about furtive pataħ: Originally it was marked between the last letter and the letter before it, to indicate it is a vowel that is added between them (after the vowel which is marked under the previous consonant and before the last consonant) but because it was difficult to do so with typing machines it was marked under the last latter in print even though it is not supposed to be pronounced after the consonant unlike normal pataħ.
Thanks for being responsible with your sponsor and the way you constructed the ad portion. I actually watched the whole thing, resisting my strong urge to skip past lol Nicely done!
This is one of the few channels I actually wait in anticipation for the next post. Thank you for making religion simple and understandable, for removing the dogma and explaining it from a historical and sober perspective. What I like about this channel is that Andrew is for the layman; this is not only for academics, it is for everyone. Keep up the good work. And please if you can... I always hold my fingers hoping that one day you'll make a video about Rastafari Movement. I want to hear your take. Again, thank you doc.
my native language is western syriac. we use yeshua with long vowels and guttural ayn when referring to jesus. although isho' (short vowels + guttural ayn) is a common name but it is not used to refer to jesus. also great video man!
This is the 3rd video of yours I've checked out and I have to say I am wildly impressed bro. The depth of your research and the knowledge you impart is amazing on so many levels. Can't wait to hear more!
I find it pleasing that Jesus' name sounds like the greek "geia sou" meaning "hello there" or as a name,- "Greeter/Welcomer". Meaning Obi-Wan Kenobi is simply introducing himself as "Josh" and Lucasfilm knew of the priestly name meaning all along and was just teasing the story's christian undertones.
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
I love that the answer to a biblical question is best answered via the study of linguistic evolution. To see how much the pronunciation and writing of a name can change over such a short time opens up a veritable Pandora's Box of questions about how much the _stories_ changed from their original versions...as well as questions about which (if any) were even true.
I fail to understand how the pronunciation of a name is a “Biblical” question and even more how pronunciation leads to questioning the transmission of a *written* corpus, particularly for the one text which has undergone the most textual criticism of all, with three hundred years of collating early sources and variant readings to narrow down exactly how much corruption there has been.
@@blackpalacemusic Fair point, but when the name changes from...say...Gilgamesh to Noah, losing the cultural and historical _root_ of the story in the process, it leaves open abundant opportunities to change the fine but _crucial_ details of the story to suit the needs and/or intentions of whoever is telling the story _this time._ Yeah?
@@karezaalonso7110I don't know about the Coptics but I can tell you about Ethiopians/Eritreans as I'm an Eritrean. Being the followers of the Oriental Orthodox Church and thus heavily influenced by the Greeks, they pronunce it as Yesus (የሱስ). In fact they say Yasus kristos (የሱስ ክርስቶስ) just like the Greeks . We (Eritreans) have the pharyngeal consonant ayn (ዕ) and other gutteral sounds though.
"Idiot Galilean..." I was about to make a joke about how silly it seemed for someone to call someone an idiot for having an accent. Then I remembered the world I live in. ☹️
It's always much fun to come into these videos thinking I've got a pretty good grasp on the topic, only to realize how little I know and that there's still so much to learn and understand. Thank you for all your exhaustive work on these videos, they're a joy to watch!
As a brazillian, I highlight the connection between the name "Ishu"/"Yeshu" and the Candomblé's divine entity, "Exu"/"Èsù". Both Jesus and Exu are related to pathways, with bible describing Jesus as the "pathway, truth and life", and Exu being referred as the guardian of pathways and crossroads.
@@Lilithksheh7723 The Septuagint is one book, the Tanakh that was translated to Greek. It was translated in the 3rd century BCE by 70 or 72 Jewish scholars, therefore named the Septuagint, or "the Seventy"
excellent video, as always! i wanted to ask you - is it possible to include captions (not auto-generated ones because they're often times not great) in your videos? i have auditory processing disorder and even though you talk very clearly, i have to rewatch some parts. i always watch videos with captions if they're avaiable. it would make videos accesible for deaf people and people who learn english. thanks in advance!
In Arab countries and Pakistan, he is commonly referred to as Isa (Arabic ʕiːsaː, Urdu ʔiːsaː) by the Muslims, but by the Christians he is reffered as Yasu (Arabic jasuːʕ Urdu jasuː) or Yasu al-Masih (Arabic jasuːʕal masiːħ Urdu jasuːal masiːh), I've heard that the reason for this is that he Arabs always called him Isa, but the people living outside the Arabian peninsula who didn't speak Arabic called him Yasu or Yeshu, but when Islam spread and Arabic became the dominant language, the people who converted to Islam had no problem changing his name to Isa, but the Christians didn't, and they kept it as Yasu, since Urdu is heavily influenced by Arabic, I suppose that this also spread to Pakistan.
@@AB-et6nj Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe. Jesus's Son Of Mary's, Real Name: Arabic it's عِيسَى (Isa) and Aramaic is īšōʕ (Isho) I speak both languages.
This was a really good episode. I always wondered how to properly pronounce the name of Jesus in the original language. Can you do an episode on the pronunciation of YHWH?
@@Salsmachev it's definitely a sensitive topic but religious studies allows for discussion of taboo information as long as the scholar isn't making a judgement on the value of the theological content.
@@Gumper30 Not just YHWH's pronunciation, but that deity's origins. I've read that YHWH was a pagan tribal god worshipped by the Israelites' Canaanite neighbors, and became incorporated into the Jews' concept of God over several centuries, shedding his deity family (wife and kids) and his original godly powers (as the god of war and storms). You want controversy? Try explaining to Mosaic monotheists that they've been worshipping a partly pagan god all along.
Despite being an Arabic expert rather than a Hebrew or Aramaic expert, I still knew exactly where you were heading... those guttural sounds never fail to perplex and enthrall learners of Semitic languages haha
إنها فعلا من أصعب الأصوات الموجودة في اللغات السامية حيث أنها نادرة في أغلبية اللغات الأخرى (ما عدا عدة لغات أفرو-آسيوية العائلة الكبيرة التي تتضمن العائلة السامية، فضلا عن وجود هذه الأصوات في بعض لغات منطقة القوقاز وعدة لغات السكان الأصليين في شمال غرب أمريكا الشمالية) تعديل: نسيت ذكر أنها أيضا تلاشت حتى في بعض اللغات السامية الحديثة كالعبرية المعاصرة والمالطية وبعض اللهجات الآرامية المعاصرة المنثورة في شمال العراق وجنوب شرق تركيا. والأدهى أن بعض الناطقين بهذه اللغات ليس لديهم دراية أن هذه الأصوات كانت موجودة في لغاتهم في الماضي وباتوا يتخيلون أن حرفَي الألف والعين مثلا كان لهما نفس النطق حتى في قديم الزمان وهذا أبعد ما يمكن أن يكون عن الحقيقة!
I'm Chinese. We call Jesus “耶稣”(pinyin: Ye Su) in mandarin, so it is very close to the pronunciation of Jesus in Greek, Iesous. During Tang dynasty, we call Jesus“移鼠”(pinyin: Yi Shu), close to Ishu still. By the way, we call Grace “希腊”(pinyin: Xi La) in mandarin, also the same as Hellas in pronunciation in Greek itself.
@@sarahwieland Mainland China does lack a certain degree of religion freedom when compared to the west. But much more liberal than the Soviet used to be. All religions, as long as the Communist party allows, are tolerated and regulated autonomously, the administration doesn't really persecute as long as the religions and verious sects behave themselves under the communist rule. You may have noticed that recently several bishops in mainland China who used not to be consecrated by the Vatican have already been recognized by the Vatican and the Pope years before .
We were always taught that his name in that time would've been Joshua/Yeshua. It's fascinating that you go way way more into why that may have been. And equally as fascinating that Jesus' name would survive and be revived to be passed down in my Catholic school education.
it is possible that that idea simply stemmed from a time with way less linguistical research into the languages of the time than we have today. The papers he showed demonstrate that linguists still work on unravelling the lost knowledge about how such things were pronounced, mostly based on transkription (that is how different things were spelled when different language writers had to represent them) and it is possible that the ones bringing the "old knowledge" around just didn't know better. Just like a lot of textual knowledge did not exist before the discovery of the dead sea scrolls that revealed a lot previously unknown texts and text variants. ;)
@@Ugly_German_Truths oh yeah, most assuredly my teachers probably learned about this from some of the same papers he did. And as assured, there's been research since. And I mean... It was k-8, this is a bit of a higher level explanation lol. Just marveling and grateful for the knowledge
- Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
This was so cool to watch! In Armenian Jesus Christ is Հիսուս Քրիստոս (“Hisus Kristos”) pronounced as HEE-SUS. I remember going to my first RE (Religious Eduction) class in England when I was 11 and being surprised at the teacher for saying “Jesus”.
In Indonesia, mostly call him Yesus. There are so many tribes here and we call him in different name as well, especially when singing using tribe language. My parents are batak toba so they call him Jesus and Kristus. For God, it is written on mom's bibble for batak as Jahoba and Debata. But, we go to church were majority is Dayak and they call him Yesus. Some of my friend at school who are Toraja call him Yesu. The other one call him Isa and he is from Aceh. When I sing christian song, then I will call him Jesus. But, it is still the same.
Nicely broken down. It's like in a language class when the teacher asks for your name I that language. I always used my middle name as my first name doesn't have a translation in most languages.
I have kind of a silly question about the creation of the letter “J.” Was it just understood that written context would determine a word’s pronunciation? I don’t imagine anyone would see “Iames” and think it was anything other than “James,” but I could imagine it causing more confusion with common words. Especially if there wasn’t a lowercase “j” yet either. This is practically the opposite circumstance, but I’m reminded how in the Puerto Rican dialect of Spanish, words ending in the letter “S” lose that letter’s sound. So “gracias” just sounds like “gracia.” It’s just understood and implied. It’s something I’m still having to actively remember when speaking to my partner’s family. I know this wasn’t the focus of the video - my apologies. I’m an anthropologist specializing in Ancient Celtic culture, but my thesis had a linguistic focus. I really wish I’d kept with it because this video had me completely enraptured, and generally I have a fascination with etymology - specifically the etymology of given names.
The letter "i" and "j" originaly made a near identical sound so there wasn't really a neef to diffrienciate it. Sound change made them more diffrent to each other so having diffrent letters was more important.
The letter 'j' was developed in the 16th century to represent the sound better. Prior to it's popularization, 'i' was the closest natural phonological equivalent sound for Latin speaking people of the 'y' sound in Hebrew; so, for a name like 'iames', they wouldn't have pronounced with with the 'j' sound.
Yes, the pronunciation would just depend on the position (and the specific word in question, which you might just have to know). In Latin, where the alphabet comes from, we have the same thing: the letter i would be pronounced differently depending on position and environment. It basically works like the letter Y in Spanish: yo and y are pronounced in two versions, similar to Latin i. I'm not sure which variants of Spanish do or don't do this, but I've heard people pronouncing "yo" or "Yolanda" etc. with a sound that was similar (though a bit weaker) to the English J.
The spelling of English throughout the centuries has been wild. If I remember correctly there was no standard spelling of English words in the seventeenth century, in fact Shakespeare’s manuscripts show that often he spelled the same word in different ways. Furthermore words that haven’t changed their spelling now have a different pronunciation. We know that because Shakespeare used rhymes so when a rhyme it’s expected and it doesn’t really work it’s because the word had a different pronunciation. Hope it’s clear. In conclusion I am not even sure how James was pronounced in earlier centuries but I am willing to bet it was not like today’s and the letter j was adopted to reflect the difference between i and j that usage had produced. Btw I am not a linguist, just listened to videos about the topic because of personal interest. The field is huge but to give you an idea (in case you don’t already know) you can look up “the great vowel shift”. It’s about the dramatic transformation English language went through between the 1400s and 1700s.
I am an Aramaic speaker (mainly Chaldean Neo Aramaic) and we call Jesus ܝܫܘܥ (pronounced: Esh’o with that Ain sound at the end). And yes that’s how I would say Jesus actual name was pronounced or maybe close to that.
Romans 10:13 “For ‘whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Eminent historian Ernest Renan studied the life of Christ, and he acknowledged that the Savior was never in His life time known by or called by the name of “Jesus” (THE LIFE OF JESUS, p. 90). The name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century. In the 1611 English Version of the Bible (KJV), the name of Christ is Iesus (pronounced “ee-sus”), and only later was it changed to Jesus (pronounced “gee-sus”). The revealed name is very important to our salvation in Christ. The idea of taking God’s name in vain, which means to bring His Name to uselessness, or changing His name, or taking a vow by His name and not fulfilling that vow, so this is what is meant by “taking His name in vain” (Exodus 20:2). We must acknowledge that the name of salvation cannot be changed, “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). You cannot change the revealed name of our Savior, and there is no excuse acceptable to God for doing so, even if one speaks in another tongue, or rather because of the languages, of mankind. You must take this very seriously, for the warning of God is clear: “‘If you will not hear, and if you will not take it to heart, to give glory to My name {YAH},’ Says the Lord of hosts, I will send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart” (Malachi 2:2). Although there are descriptive names, there is only one Personal name of God by which to give glory to the LORD, as we say, “Halleluyah,” which is, “Praise YAH!” Knowing God’s revealed name is very important for this is the only name of salvation. The Bible tells us the name of salvation, “Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation’” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV). Therefore, we must “Praise YAH,” as many may be unknowingly doing when they say, “Halleluyah!” “Praise YAH!” These other names produced by man via linguistic evolution are lacking a, “Thus says the LORD!” These man-made names, which are a product of languages, and not the revelation of God, such as Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous, and not to mention “Hey-zeus, are not valid. ~So where did we get the true name of God, the very name “YAH”? Moses asked God for His name, and God replied, “HAYAH Ashar HAYAH,” which means: “I AM Who I AM,” therefore, Moses was told the essential name of God is YAH, I AM (HAYAH, the I AM), for God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM {YAH} has sent me to you.’” (Exodus 3:14). People say, “Oh, the Lord has many names.” No, the Lord has only One Personal essential name, which always has “YAH.” “And God spoke to Moses and said to him: ‘I, the Lord. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as EL SHADDAI [God Almighty], but by My name YAHAWAH, I was not known to them’” (Exodus 6:2-3). Therefore, the name YAH is the essential and the consistently true name of God. For this name YAH is the name which is above every name! The apostle Paul originally wrote this about the Savior’s name, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of YAHSHUA every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Messiah is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11). Here are the facts: The Savior told them that He was the I AM, as in “YAH” (John 8:58), and more facts: 1. Moses was given the name which is above every name [YAH]. (see Exodus 3:14) 2. The apostle Paul testifies that Christ has the name which is above every name [YAH]. (see Philippians 2:9) 3. The Lord YAH made it clear to Moses that although He, God, was known by many descriptive names, for example, El Shaddai, Emmanuel, Lord, Savior, Messiah, He only has One Personal Essential Name: YAH. 4. The apostle Peter states: “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). 5. The apostle Paul heard the Savior give His name in Hebrew on the road to Damascus (Acts 26:15). We know that the Savior did not say, “Jesus,” because: • The name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century c.e. (1611 English Bible: “Iesus.”) Contrarily to what many say, the name Jesus does not mean salvation. • The name Jesus is not a Hebrew name. • The name Jesus came from many linguistic changes: Iesus (ee-sus), Iesous (ee-ay-sous), a transliteration of Yeshua, which is a common Aramaic name at the time of Christ. • The Lord has revealed His name only in Hebrew (Exodus 3:14; Isaiah 12:2; Act 26:14-15). Behold the One revealed Name by which we must be saved: YAHSHUA! And every tongue, language of mankind, is to know this one name YAHSHUA (Philippians 2:11). And this is the essence of the Gospel: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:16-18). Logically, if there are many names for Christ, then to accept one among the many would be tantamount to rejecting the rest. Therefore, there can only be one revealed name given according to one language, as it is, and should be in Hebrew. Otherwise, how can we be sure that we are not rejecting the Lord’s revealed name from Heaven?
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
I have thought Yeshua ben Joseph. (Yeshua, son of Joseph). Not my religion, I am Buddhist, but I am a bit of a Comparative Religions scholar. Why I LOVE your channel! When I was a kid, in church (former christian), the preacher made a really funny little joke. He asked the congregation: "What is god's first name?" When no one could answer, he said, "Andy." We were all like, "Andy?!?!" The preacher said, "Yes! In the bible it says, 'Andy (And he) gave his only begotten son." I think that was a pretty funny little quip from the Pastor!
@@luciannawolfstone2598 Well, Hebrew isn't my first language, but a simple Google will bring up BEN. I bothered to double check, since you replied. Ben is Hebrew for "son", BAR is Aramaic. 6 in one, half a doz in the other.
One of the most interesting videos. The ending seemed cut off. Super interesting to hear all the ways Jesus has been pronounced and that Yeshu is closer to the real pronunciation than Jesus. 👍🏼
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
In Swedish it’s common for older text to write “Jesu” without the s! For instance you could say “Jesu Kristi” and it would be interpreted by a majority as an older, more formal way of saying “Jesus Kristus” which is Jesus Christ in modern Swedish. Funny who this could be close to the actual name, since Scandinavia was Christened very late. Full circle by chance!
@@chegu613 In genitive, i.e. Jesus Christ's so-and-so. It's a Latin genitive and totally weird from a German perspective, where genitives are in -s and written language only.
As the narrator points out, the final 's' of the Greek 'iesous' is added to grammatically indicate the nominative. But addressing him directly (in Latin certainly, I've long forgotten all my Greek) would require the vocative. So does the older English usage 'Jesu' come from Jerome's Latin Vulgate?
I’ve read a lot of claims, some attributed to Hebrew scholars, which seem to think it was ‘Yahushua’ where “Yahu” is pronounced quickly as though the two syllables were rolled into one, making it sound like “Yow” followed by an emphasized “Shoo” and finishing with a less emphasized “uh”…yowSHOOuh also is an abbreviated reference to a longer phrase which translates into “The Creator saves”
Interestingly, Jesus is called Yaeshu or Yashu in Indian languages. Christianity arrived in India pretty early and It's possible the pronounciation remained largely unchanged since it remained a small largely localised religion. I'd like to know the Ethiopian pronounciation since it's another non westerm early Christian country
@@chendaforest Because Allah is just the Arabic word for "god". It's not an individual name per se, it's just been closely associated with Islam because the Quran uses it.
@@chendaforest It's a bit complicated, but generally speaking, Christians just say "god" in their native language. In English, "God", in French, "Dieu", in Russian, "Bog", in Arabic, "Allah", and so on. Or they use other honorifics - "the Lord" is very commonly used. (Again, whatever "lord" is in each language.) In both Judaism and Christianity, God theoretically has a name, but it is rarely used - in Judaism, it's only used in the written form (YHWH, with no vowels because Hebrew), and never spoken. In Christianity, these four letters are sometimes pronounced in different ways (Yahweh, Jehovah, or similar), but essentially, we're not exactly sure what the vowels were. But again, that is not often used. Jesus is considered one of the parts of God in Christianity (as said - it's complicated).
They could redo that scene in Super Troopers. "Are you saying 'Yes, sir', or 'Yeah, sure'...or one of the proposed original vocalizations of the true name of the historical Jesus?"
Yeah, and the Arabic ayin is probably the closest approximation we can find today. That, and perhaps Mizrahi Jewish (especially Yemenite) pronunciation of ayin in Hebrew.
In Croatian it's Isus (pronouned E-soos) But also in some dialects in Croatia it is Jezuš (Je like Hey without the H and y and e switched, z as in Zoo but just the z, uš as in oosh)
Zarathustra is pretty common in English too, I think. I'd still like to know what exactly was the first form of Christianity that entered India, whether it was Greek or Syriac.
Great video! Ayin is well preserved in Arabic, where you can still hear its original pronounciation. Or in Modern Hebrew, but only with distinct Mizrahi ("Oriental") pronounciation. Ashkenazi Israelis tend to pronounce it smoothly with a sound that resembles "thinking aloud": "ehh". Today's students of Hebrew often struggle to recognize the difference between ayin and aleph as the recent shifts in pronounciation make the two letters sound very similarly. Modern Hebrew refers to Jesus as "Yeshu" (ישו) with the exception of Messianic Jews, who prefer the word ישוע (Yeshua) due to its religious connotation ("salvation").
This is what I want. I'm a Christian and I absolutely loved this. You didn't mock my beliefs you didn't say anything to make anyone believer or not upset. Just a great informative story. Very very interesting
Interestingly, critics of Christianity use this fact that Jesus was created as a fictional character to be a mirror character of the Hebrew bible hero Joshua by giving him the same name.
@@trianjezraellumontad7661 -- *Explained why we think Jesus is a Fictional character* Because he has all the hallmarks of one? No history, his birth is either omitted or not consistent in the telling, his family lineage is also inconsistent, he starts off as an infant in only two stories, born like all Greek demigods, then immediately jumps forward 30+ years? Meaning, there's no need to discuss his life, just him as messenger? And there is no contemporary evidence for him? Nothing is written about him until decades and centuries after his supposed existence? Sounds pretty fictional to me.
Before studying biblical history and Jewish history for my Ph.D. in Theology I used to believe the same way, that the gospels were written in Greek originally. I soon found out this was not the case. The original texts were in Hebrew and Aramaic and were later translated into Greek once Christianity started immerging as a new religion, where some changes were made to the texts and some additional verses were added. The Jewish followers of Yeshua in the first centuries used both Hebrew and Aramaic texts in the church in Jerusalem where James, the brother of Yeshua was the first bishop. When they were forced out of Jerusalem by the Christians who had become the majority in 70AD with the destruction of the temple, they fled to Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. The group that ended up in Jordan used the Hebrew text while the group that went to Syria and Lebanon used the Aramaic texts. It always bothered me that the Greek language would be used by devout Jews given the fact that the Greek language is the language of pagans and the Greeks were who tried to completely destroy Judaism less than two centuries before this time, which no Jew would have forgotten about. This is where the story of Hanukkah described in the book of Macabbees comes from after a small group of Jewish fighters liberated the temple from occupying forces in the 2nd century BC. This would be considered the language of their enemies, and would be comparable to them using the German language after World War 2 to write sacred texts with, it just wouldn't happen. The apostle Barnabas when he went to India to spread the gospel took a complete Hebrew version of the New Testament with him and left them in India. Those Hebrew texts are now in a museum in London.
@@johnvonkerman Because a Hebrew version was carried by Barnabas to India, it has been sitting in a museum in London. I used it as part of my doctoral research.
@@johnvonkerman The collection of scrolls has a designation, not a name, but I do not remember off hand what the letter and number designator was right now. I will have to research it again, its been more than 30 years.
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@vjara94 "Jesus name couldn't be Greek when he is a Jew" NONSENSE - all these Maccabean kings had Hellenized names. John Hyrcanus I: 135-104 BC Aristobulus I: 104-103 BC Alexander Janneus: 103-76 BC Hyrcanus II (Salome Alexandra): 76-67 BC Aristobulus II: 67-63 BC General Pompey captures Jerusalem and reappoints Hyrcranus II as high priest: 63 BC Hycranus II exiled to Parthia: 40-36 BC Antigonus II: 40-37 BC Hycranus II lives with Babylonian Jews: 35 BC
@@termination9353 you're talking of hellenized jews, OK they have adopted Greek, What does that have to do with the fact that Jesus speak arameic, he teached in arameic, and he was born to an arameic speaking community, why his name would have been in Greek?
@@vjara94 You don't know what language Jesus spoke or if he spoke in several languages and dialects. You weren't there. And the main point is Jesus] name is supposed to mean God With Us and not 'Saviour' or whatever you are translating Yeshua as IT'S NOT God With Us so it is not the correct answer. The only way to match the Hebrew name Emmanuel to a Greek name is to be using Zeus WHO WAS GOD Of GOD'S - Don't try to sell me your lie about sky god. You already showed your ignorance claiming Jews did not use Greek names.
As an anecdote, modern arabic still uses the 3yn (guttural end sound I'll write as '3') in both of the two versions it has of Jesus's name. While the Muslim version is 3eesa (عيسى) (taken from other local languages I suppose) the form used in arabic by christains is the much more interesting yasoo3, which reminds me of the proposed yeshoo3 original pronunciation
This is so fascinating. Listening to this made me realise that a lot of biblical names in Malayalam the language spoken in Kerala, south India, are almost the same as in the original Aramaic. Take the names Mariam, Yohanan, Mōsha, Isahac, Yākob for example. The name for Jesus is even more fascinating. We use both Yēshu and Īsho interchangeably both colloquially as well as liturgically. Could be a result the early missionaries from that region transmitting these names directly. St. Thomas is believed to have preached and been martyred here as well as waves of Syrian Christian missionaries who arrived with traders as early as the 3rd century.
Thank you! Some Jewish communities pronounced ע as a ng-sound, as in the word "siNGer". in IPA: ŋ . That's the sound that I still use today to pronounce ע which helps to distinguish it from א . Thus a possible pronunciation of ישוע would also be «yešung» or «yešuªng» .
How strong would diglossia have been that Jesus would have understood or been referred to as Iesous (in Greek) as well as his Aramaic name? The New Testament suggests Jesus must have known at least some level of Greek given his interactions with Romans.
@@chefchaudard3580 They aren't really points to make up though. I could see a translator getting left out. That said, knowing Greek in first century Palestine may not have been a particularly uncommon thing. It was the English of its time
@@andrelegeant88 it is, however, unlikely that some jewish rabbi who never left Galilea, a remote province, learned some greek. Why would he do that? It is still possible, but we have no reliable evidence of that.
@@chefchaudard3580 Galilee was remote from JERUSALEM's point of view. In the bigger scheme of things it was the area where Jews lived next door to Greeks thanks to its proximity to Seleucid lands and the prevalence of Greek cities and colonies there. In fact, most Galileans had to make their money from trade with the Greek cities. A tekton (woodworker) like Jesus would have had few clients in his native Nazareth. Wood was a fairly expensive commodity there, but would have been fairly abundant in the wealthy Greek cities. So while Galilee is considered the backwater by Jews, it was actually a very cosmopolitan region where all the Jews, Greeks, and local non-Jewish groups mingled freely. Also, the reason Jews from Judaea thought their Galilean brethren were bumpkins was because Galilean Jews were the lowest rung of society in their own lands. Unlike Judaean Jews who had their own big cities and enjoyed access to Hellenistic culture while maintaining some level of political autonomy, Galileans didn't have their own cities precisely because the cities in their area were Greek (or Hellenistic).
@@chefchaudard3580 The most common liturgical language for Jews of the period was the Septuagint, however, and the elites (i.e. customers) for Jesus as a carpenter would have spoken Greek. We see today where many immigrants to the US are not very educated but still know English to varying degrees because it is economically necessary.
I have always personally interpreted it as being done for Narrative Clarity being that in English there are already 2 Characters in the Text by the Name Joshua and so they want a clear distinction between the 'lesser' Joshua's and Jesus.
@@ReligionForBreakfast So you confirm that either way it's Joshua. (But it's not) Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
In arabic language we have the letter (ayn) that is used for the a in the end of yeshua and it is the same letter of hebrew and the letter is nearly impossible to learn if it is not in your first language, you can learn to say things close to it like the letter A (in english) but you can't say it, and when it is used in the end of the word it's almost silent and the strangers to this letter will think that the U is the last letter in Yeshua so those 2 reasons for saying Yeshua and Yeshu instead of his hebrew name
The only problem with this video is that it doesn't explain why English pronounces Jesus's name is pronounced as /dʒiː/ instead of /jeː/. The video implies that the English arbitrarily started to pronounce the name that way. However, this is not true. The reality is that Latin /j/ developed into a /dʒ/ in Old French which carried over to Middle English after the Normans conquered England. When Late Middle English became Early Modern English, the Great Vowel Shift was starting to take place. The /eː/ in /dʒeːzus/ became /iː/. This is the reason for the pronunciation in English.
my question is: why do we only pronounce the biblical figure Jesus as "jee zus" but every other person with the exact same spelling is pronounced "hey soos"? 🤔🤷🏼♂️
@@graphixkillzzz The "hey-soos" pronunciation is how the Spanish language developed those sounds. I think it went like this: Late Latin: /ʝ/ Western Romance/Old Spanish: /dʒ/ Late Old Spanish: /ʒ/ Early Modern Spanish: /ʃ/ Modern Spanish: /x/ If I am wrong on the technicals, correct me. I am right about the begining and end developments though.
Very interesting video. A correction about the Greek pronunciation though. The first letter in Ιησούς (Iesous) is an I (Yiota) and it's pronounced as "ee" not "ye" So the Greek pronunciation starts with a diphthong (ee-ee) ..that makes it "i-isous"
Actually this makes sense. If I remember correctly Christianity reached the Indian sub-Continent via my State Kerala. And in the local Malayalam language, I have heard Jesus being referred to as both "Yeshu" as well as "Eeshow".
Love your channel. I just had a little chuckle at the irony of a video about Jesus and dates being given as "CE". I don't have a preference, just made me chuckle.
Interestingly, the way Latin renders the Name, Iesus (Yeh-soos) or Iezus (Yeh-zoos), is in the 4th Declension instead of the 2nd Declension; the result is that the cases use more long or reiterated U (pronounced 'oo') sounds, which could be how the Romans interpreted the gutteral sound of Hebrew (considering that St Jerome knew Hebrew and Aramaic himself, I wouldn't be surprised); this is in contrast to the 2nd Declension, in which the cases take forms with i and o. Example: Jezus in the Genitive looks like Jezūs, indicating a more drawn out sound. If it were 2nd Dec, it would be Jezī. So clearly there was some aspect of the Name that Romans felt necessitated the 4th Declension.
I would love it if you did a video on the stories in the Quran that seem to parallel Christian apocrypha that was popular at the time and how that might have happened.
The Christ, the anointed one , the Messiah Christ Jesus Title & Name Christ is a Title & Jesus is a Name In the Old Testament, a King was anointed with oil A priest was anointed with oil Titles are associated with offices (Position, rank, duties & benefits of office) Joshua or Yesuah means Jehovah is salvation or Yah saves This video also explains the name (but not the title) ua-cam.com/video/na22KkydPRs/v-deo.htmlsi=SmOlyqCS6LpCHoeJ
My father was born in Europe of German parents in 1905. His given name was Fritz. The family immigrated to the United States a couple of years later. In the early 1920s, my father became a naturalized citizen of the United States. His naturalization papers listed his name as Fred and, for the rest of his life, he introduced himself as Fred and signed his name, Fred. Dad’s older brother, Joseph, called him Fritz even decades later, presumably because that is what he had called him when they were boys growing up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. In the 1950s, Dad explained to me that “Fred” was a transliteration of the “German name” of Fritz and that I shouldn’t say that Fred was not his real name. I don’t mind if people use whatever name they prefer to use to refer to the best-known resident of the Galilean town of Nazareth. Maybe I shouldn’t admit to being disgusted by people who say or imply that Jesus isn’t his real name or who use their favorite (supposedly Hebrew) pronunciation of his name as a sort of code to identify their particular in-group. My annoyance, however, sometimes goes beyond merely thinking of such people as using a modern-day equivalent of saying long prayers or taking great pride in the prominent display of phylacteries.
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Ja - zeus
Limited POA?
I am really glad this video exists. Now how about the apostles?
@@alananimus9145 also you can see the letter yod in yeshua name. This is the smallest letter in that alphabet and jesus aka yeshua mentioned it cleverly when he said not one jot of the law shall pass away. This is also the first letter of the tetragammatron of yod he vav he which god said who he was to moses at the burning bush (i am who i am or i am what i shall prove to be or simply i am the truth)
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As a Hebrew speaker this is fascinating! In modern hebrew we see the guttural vowels disappear too. Thank you, Andrew, great video as usual.
free palestine
@@starcapture3040 I, as Jewish Israeli man fully agree. A Palestinian state is long overdue right here where they lived for centuries. Sadly, I am in the minority here. It's so freaking frustrating that seeing the Palestinian people as, well, people, is a radical opinion today. It is infuriating.
@@TalLikesThat So you agree for one democratic secular civil state with new constitution and flag. including return of the Palestinian refugees to their cities?
@@starcapture3040 That has already happened when Israel shook off the shackles of Islamic Imperialism and reclaimed Israel. Pre 1964 if you called a Muslim in Israel a Palestinian they would have killed you the same as you calling them a Jew. Go and look at the 1938 Palestine Flag with a Star of David on it, or the Palestinian coins with Menorahs and Stars of David on them, or even look at the Palestine Museum that only has a photo of Arafat in it and is otherwise empty.
@@mikenyr4life491 There is no such thing as israel in history. imagine naming land of others by some jews who immigrated to it from Mesopotamia by this word The one who wrestled with god. israel has only right to exist in the Torah no where else unless you think british imperialism is way go but pooo Muslims who allowed jews into the land of the aramaic canaanites again after being completely banished by Christion romans who named the jews as jesus killers. Palestine belong to its people the brits have no right to occupy other people 's land than give the land to settlers who decided the land belong to them by God signature... this tragic and laughable at the same time.
As a linguist, I really appreciate you included IPA transcriptions for each potential pronunciation of Yeshua.
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Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@termination9353 - Sure, let's just ignore two professional scholars and accept your thoughts on the matter.
@@TechBearSeattle What makes you think I'm not a scholar? And being on youboob doesn't make one a professional. I was born and raised Orthodox Jew read and write Hebrew and studied in Yeshiva - Talmud, Zohar Kabbala, and Baal Shem Tov.
These guys talk some extra biblical stuff in making their case but they are Bible and Gospel illiterates. John 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
I agree the phonetic transcriptions are very helpful! But they aren't IPA; for instance, the voiceless alveolar fricative would be transcribed as /ʃ/ and not as in this (fantastic) video, and the vowel lengths would also not be represented by diacritics. It appears to be NAPA in fact; regardless, the phonological representations do really help :)
As a cantonese speaker, we address Jesus as Yesou which amazingly close to the original pronunciation despite both languages comes from different era and region.
As a Cantonese you should call on the MASHIAH of YISRAEL by HIS TRUE NAME. It's a no brainer brother !!! Only HIS HEBREW NAME MEANS SALVATION.
@@bradamdor2843these names don't appear in the Bible for a good reason because they are not his name his name is Jesus.
@@MochaQueen5 cut a long story short, the name jesus is only 400yrs old and was created by a PAGAN catholic bunch.
JESUS CHRIST HAMASHIACH ALMIGHTY GOD UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE CALL HIM WHEN WE SEEK HIM WITH OUR WHOLE HEART, different languages use different pronunciations for the same name eg Peter, pedro
@@laurasilverstone9735 WRONG
Andrew always comes out with the most interesting topics.
I thought this would be an easy video to write. Easy answer: "Yeshua." Then I dug too deep into the scholarship on pharyngeal consonants O_o
@@ReligionForBreakfast MOMMY!!!
@@calvincoolidge8109 ayo dude ain’t u dead?
Interestingly, his original name is Breakfast. It was a scribal note that added the “Religion for”. Later scribes just started putting them together by mistake. No one really knows why people started calling him “Andrew.”
@@ReligionForBreakfast I always thought that was the name. Excited to see the true original.
Fantastic video. In my native Malayalam, Jesus is called Yeshu and we have a vibrant Syriac community who say Eesho
I can agree with that, my dad who is Bengali was born in December 25th, so his family nickname is Zeesu (pronounced very similar to Yeshu). I always thought it’s similar to “Jesus” but not. I come to find out now my dads nickname is closer to ancient pronunciation. Lol.
Interesting because Eesho is basically the same as his islamic name aka Eessa
Usually "sh" from Hebrew or Aramaic becomes "s" in Arabic and "o" becomes "a"
Christians usually call him Yaasuu in Arabic, which is basically Yeshua from Aramaic
No way, I'm also a Malayali 😊. I'm also part of the Syriac community as well
@@affinityxs Namaskaaram fellow traveler!
@@magnisky wow, I'd love to know how the Z got in there 😁
I am ashamed as a Christian believer that I did not know this... this changes so much for me. Thank you so much for educating us on this. I and many others truly appreciate it.
Dont be ashamed because faith is going directly under your heart not on the outer face many can fool you on the outer face but they cannot fool you deeply heart... he is there always with you.
Never be ashamed for learning something new. As a devout Muslim, I too learn new things about my faith on a daily basis and it's a beautiful thing 🙂
christian is a fake religion. thats why.
@Pynjanai Syiemlieh indeed beautifully said but who is everyone praying to then thats what i wanna know
It's kinda obvious seeing that Jesus is Latin. Not Hebrew. I'm sorry to tell you this but a VAST majority of the Christian bible is a mistranslation.
In Arabic, Jesus's name differs depending on whether it's the Christian or Muslim version: for Christians, his name is "Yassou^" with the "guttural Ayn sound" at the end (one of six Arabic throat based letters), and for Muslims his name is "^eessa" with the Ayn at the beginning of the name.
Moreover, the prophet Yusha^ Ibn Noon is named like that in the Qur'an, as if they each had different names!
It's عيسى /ʕiː.saː/ with long a and single s. The other one is يسوع /ja.suːʕ/ with long u and single s.
عessa
Yes, with my Malayalam and Syriac heritage plus having been brought up in the Gulf, the variations were always fascinating and I just realised that the ع is at opposite ends for the two commonly seen Arabic forms of the name.
@@hm4084 He is not named in the Quran, not even in the hadith. Quranic commentators, or exegesis guys name him like that.
@@hm4084
He is mentioned in the Quran as the follower of moses, but not by his name.
As always, I love your thoroughness and the level of detail you go into in these videos. I’ve always wondered why in Modern Hebrew we say “Yeshu” (ישו) rather than what I thought was the authentic form of the name, Yeshua (ישוע).
I've heard that this was a variation, and the it was a common name at the time (though I was never given evidenceof other "Yeshu"s).
There's a folk etymology that "yeshu" is an acronym for a defamation, but it's never written as an acronym either...
The folk etymology is ישו, ימך שמו וזכרו
(May his name be erased). But obviously it's simply a short ישוע. Like they said in the video the a at the end was added later so the pharyngeal ע was simply deleted in some biblical Hebrew dialects (just like modern Hebrew).
@@atbing2425 I know the acronym, but as I said, if it were an acronym, we'd write the name as יש"ו which we don't...
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
YA-HO-SHU-AH
This could have been a dry subject, but you and Dr. Suchard did a great job at making it interesting as well as informative. Great work.
Some perspective from a different side of the world:
I live in Kerala, India. Where Christianity arrived fairly early, there are legends that St. Thomas himself had come to the shores of Kerala. The region was an important part of the spice trade hub (Black Pepper is originally from here) and had trade relations going back to antiquity with the near East. There were populations of Jews in Kerala during the time Christianity spread around here, either because of that (earliest converts being Jews who might have spoken a similar dialect) or because the earliest Christians having been converted by people who spoke such a dialect themselves, people usually say 'Yešu/Yēšu' here for Jesus. However the Syriac form also exists in the vernacular 'Išo' (and there are Syriac Churches here from later Syriac Christians arriving here). Archaic names like 'Yohannan' exist here. YHWH is pronounced 'Yahо̄va/Yehо̄va'. Christianity here followed quite a different trajectory from the West until the arrival of the Portugese (Vasco da Gama) and is worth studying on its own.
PS: I haven't read any academic discussions on what might the Jews of Kerala before the advent of Christianity might have spoken (or whether they were even a homogenous group of their own). It is also quite likely that they might've adopted the regional language to some extent, having intermarried with the local population somewhat.
Rauzabal, meaning the Honored Tomb. It is known as the tomb of Yuz Asaf.
I am one of those Syrian Christians. So can attest to it.
Thomas came to Kerala exactly because of the Spice trade. If you look at Jew history you would notice am interesting fact... The only place they lived peacefully without any issues from the locals was Kerala. So Kerala had a very sizable Jew population.
So one might ask why doesn't it have that much now? Well most of these Jews just went to Israel. Malayalam is even now taught in their schools due to it
@@caniblmolstr4503 Cochin Jews aren't that large diaspora wise, are they? I've heard that a lot of Jews initially might've converted to Christianity as well. And after a point in time, the people coming for trade became overwhelmingly Christian as opposed to any other faith. Although much of what I've read are 'books' on the topic, written by local historians but without references to solid papers.
@@caniblmolstr4503 This is new to me. Cool! Where can I read more about the Swahilis and the Cholas?
@@caniblmolstr4503 are you vegetarians?
Great video! As a Muslim & Arabic speaker (sister language to Hebrew), it’s noteworthy to mention that the Qur’ān interestingly calls Jesus “‘Īsa” (with a guttural ‘Ayn at the BEGINNING-not end), contrary to what many modern Arab Christians today call Jesus, which is “Yesū’” with the hard ‘Y’ sound and guttural ‘A’ at the end (in alignment with the Hebrew ‘Yeshū’’.
So the Qur’ān seems to be paralleling the Eastern Syriac pronunciation of “Isho” or “Isu” as mentioned in the video, but converting the Shīn (‘sh-‘) into an S-sound, while retaining a guttural Ayn, that it places at the beginning.
Of course, as a Muslim, I am biased towards believing “Isho” or “Isu” to be the correct & original historical pronunciation by Jesus’s townsfolk. But I guess we’ll never know for exact sure, academically speaking.
Also interestingly however, is that it’s been found by recent ancient Arabian inscriptions that the name “‘Īsa” (as the Qur’ān uses it) existed before Islam presumably for the name of Jesus, and which bore the meaning of “to purchase or redeem” (in apparent connection with the belief of Christ’s sacrificial atonement), but which also very well may have been a later meaning ascribed to the name by Christians as a result of their theology, rather than the other way around.
I hope Andrew can make another video discussing the exact MEANING of the name “Jesus” (or Yeshu/Iso) in all of these different dialectical variations (of course “God saves” is a classic interpretation), and how that contributed if at all to people’s thoughts & views of Jesus in the early period.
Either way, thanks for the dropping the knowledge!
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
The Shin can have a dot on one side or the other that changes it from an sh to an s. I’m not sure how recent a development that is, though.
@@Lilithksheh7723 It doesn't matter since Yeshua cannot be Jesus' name. The name has to interpret as "God With Us". Joshua/Yeshua does not translate as that. So not the name. A Greek alternative was used. Something like Zusa, using Zeus as the generic word for God.
According to the Quran, the name variations of Jesus (pbuh) comes in two forms عيسى (Isa) with the sound Ain in the beginning and يسوع (Yasua) with the sound Ain at the end, and when connecting the idea of the name development in the region it seems to me that the name is derived from another name which is يوشع بن نون (Yausha Bin Noon) with the Ain at the end of the first name, the commander who lead the tribes to the holy land.
A recent issue of Biblical Archaeology Review had a article about the origin of "Isa" as the Muslim name for the Jewish rabbi, Yeshu ben Pantera.
Really enjoyed this video. Thank you!
As an Assyrian born in America, I really enjoy getting to hear the different pronunciations
It's weird that even in Thailand they seem to pronounce it very close to what is presented here as original Aramaic; in Thai, Jesus is pronounced 'yay-su'. (su as 'soo', as in 'super') Typically with the 'phra' honorific that's also used for Buddhist monks and teachers: Phra Yesu.
I'm now wondering if this is because of earlier exposure to Jesus' name by middle eastern contacts, or that it's just because in Thai you can't really have an S at the end of a word, or else it'll become a 't' sond which wouldn't sound nice so 19th century Western missionaries went with Yesu..
Thailand had contact with the early missionaries of Christianity the same way the west coast of india did(mainly just Keralas coast). The trade brought the early missionaries to se asia
Same in Korean. 예수 yesu
Similar to Latin. Jesu
Similar to contemporary Mandarin Chinese!
@@janettedavis6627 in twi which is a language spoken in Ghana, it is Yesu
Very interesting! I had always wondered why in mandarin, Jesus was pronounced like 耶穌 (Yēsū), now it all makes sense!
It's fascinating that the Chinese (where only a tiny percentage is Christian) pronounce the name of Jesus better than English speakers (where Christianity is the majority religion)
@@praevasc4299 This is because Jesus's name (as well as Peter's, John's and even Caesar's name) evolved along with the languages, while the Chinese borrowed the pronunciation from Latin /ˈjeː.suːs/ in the Sixteenth Century from the Jesuits who arrived with the Portuguese.
@@tiagorodrigues3730 it is so funny American butcher the original pronunciation of Jesus now then. All things considered. That is ironic.
@@praevasc4299 When jesus going to leave this world, he instructed his 12 students to spread his teaching and gospel to the whole world, at that time there is no plane, where Israel is nearer to the west, so the west should receive first, and follow by others, later
А зачем китайцам Иисус?😅
Glad I come across with you recommended by a previous channel. Thank you!
In Hindi and Indian languages we've always called him Yeshu "येशु"
Gesundheit.
Not always. Christians themselves exclusively use Yeshu. I've been to church. But commonly he is called Isa which is a borrowing from Arabic.
In Hindi, Punjabi, and Urdu we actually call him ईसा (Isa), not येशू
this is also how modern hebrew callls him
Yehshua still wrong, correctly its Yahshua represents Yah and Shua is salvation so Yahshua
Huh, what's interesting is that in Russian Joshua is consistently translated as Jesus ('Iesous'). Russian Synodal Bible uses "Jesus" to refer to both Joshua son of Nun and Joshua the High Priest, as well as Jesus himself. The Old Testament was translated from Hebrew but they did take the Septuagint into consideration so maybe that's why the name stayed consistent. Great video, I never realised that Joshua and Jesus were the same name.
Something Russian picked up from the Greek translator-missionaries who invented the Cyrillic alphabet and relied on the Septuagint.
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@termination9353 Mios dios, please stop spamming.
@@Copperkaiju I'm not spamming - get your terms correct and F off.
it was fake anyway..Horus was his name when the Greeks ruled..Isis -Mary---Horus-->Jesus....4000 BC Greeks changed all the Africa religions...Serapis Christus 325 BC..
Orthodox Jew here. Great video, and great info on the difference in pronunciation of the Aramaic compared to Hebrew, not many people know that. We see this a lot when we study Talmud. I would caution that Yeshu is mentioned on the Talmud, but we still don’t know if it’s referring to subject of the video specifically. Second Temple Judaism dealt with a of Sectarian heretics, so we do not know if “Yeshu” in the Talmud is referring to this specific Yeshu. Yeshu written in the Talmud is either יש׳ו or ישו, regardless the it is an acronym for ימח שמו וזכרו (Yimach Shemo V’Zikhro) or “May his name be blotted out from history”
Fun fact about furtive pataħ:
Originally it was marked between the last letter and the letter before it, to indicate it is a vowel that is added between them (after the vowel which is marked under the previous consonant and before the last consonant) but because it was difficult to do so with typing machines it was marked under the last latter in print even though it is not supposed to be pronounced after the consonant unlike normal pataħ.
Thanks for being responsible with your sponsor and the way you constructed the ad portion. I actually watched the whole thing, resisting my strong urge to skip past lol Nicely done!
Yes, his segue was smooth as silk.
i skipped ;)
SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe.
Quran [Last Testament]:
The Likeness Of Jesus Son Of Mary, Is Akin To Birth, To That Of Adam.
I love how there were ancient pedants such as myself, correcting the grammar of others in similarly snarky and arrogant ways.
This is one of the few channels I actually wait in anticipation for the next post. Thank you for making religion simple and understandable, for removing the dogma and explaining it from a historical and sober perspective. What I like about this channel is that Andrew is for the layman; this is not only for academics, it is for everyone. Keep up the good work. And please if you can... I always hold my fingers hoping that one day you'll make a video about Rastafari Movement. I want to hear your take. Again, thank you doc.
my native language is western syriac. we use yeshua with long vowels and guttural ayn when referring to jesus. although isho' (short vowels + guttural ayn) is a common name but it is not used to refer to jesus. also great video man!
I'm an Indian. In the Indian language of Malayalam, Jesus is called YESHU.
It is Jeeshu in Bengali
This is the 3rd video of yours I've checked out and I have to say I am wildly impressed bro. The depth of your research and the knowledge you impart is amazing on so many levels. Can't wait to hear more!
lol it's because he literally has a PhD in this stuff.
I find it pleasing that Jesus' name sounds like the greek "geia sou" meaning "hello there" or as a name,- "Greeter/Welcomer".
Meaning Obi-Wan Kenobi is simply introducing himself as "Josh" and Lucasfilm knew of the priestly name meaning all along and was just teasing the story's christian undertones.
In English it sounds like: yea sure. So what’s your point?
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@termination9353 How about providing some evidence for that, rather than just copy/pasting the same assertions again and again.
Love it
@@iapetusmccool Exactly because people didn’t start using family or surnames until the 11th century
I had a much less educated version of this conversation yesterday, but this did confirm what I understood. Thank you!
Just getting off work, saw this, immediately clicked, always a pleasure seeing new content.
I love that the answer to a biblical question is best answered via the study of linguistic evolution. To see how much the pronunciation and writing of a name can change over such a short time opens up a veritable Pandora's Box of questions about how much the _stories_ changed from their original versions...as well as questions about which (if any) were even true.
I fail to understand how the pronunciation of a name is a “Biblical” question and even more how pronunciation leads to questioning the transmission of a *written* corpus, particularly for the one text which has undergone the most textual criticism of all, with three hundred years of collating early sources and variant readings to narrow down exactly how much corruption there has been.
You’d be amazed, especially with languages that are non-alphabetical.
Names change more than stories.
@@blackpalacemusic Fair point, but when the name changes from...say...Gilgamesh to Noah, losing the cultural and historical _root_ of the story in the process, it leaves open abundant opportunities to change the fine but _crucial_ details of the story to suit the needs and/or intentions of whoever is telling the story _this time._ Yeah?
love your work! I think it’s interesting how in Arabic the name “Jesus” is written “عيسى", beginning with the gutteral Ayin and ending with the Aleph.
It's يسوع .
Very similar to the Arabic pronunciation. We also have the "Ain" problem. Names like Ali begin with the Ain letter
Yes now. I wonder how Coptics and Ethiopian Christian Arabs say it.
@@karezaalonso7110I don't know about the Coptics but I can tell you about Ethiopians/Eritreans as I'm an Eritrean. Being the followers of the Oriental Orthodox Church and thus heavily influenced by the Greeks, they pronunce it as Yesus (የሱስ). In fact they say Yasus kristos (የሱስ ክርስቶስ) just like the Greeks . We (Eritreans) have the pharyngeal consonant ayn (ዕ) and other gutteral sounds though.
@@IbrahimAli-sx5lq very interesting, it would be great if you could upload an audio demonstration..ie using UA-cam.
Linguistic nuance + Religion. Thanks I love it. ❤️
"Idiot Galilean..."
I was about to make a joke about how silly it seemed for someone to call someone an idiot for having an accent. Then I remembered the world I live in. ☹️
I appreciate you putting the bibliography in your video description. Thanks.
It's always much fun to come into these videos thinking I've got a pretty good grasp on the topic, only to realize how little I know and that there's still so much to learn and understand. Thank you for all your exhaustive work on these videos, they're a joy to watch!
As a brazillian, I highlight the connection between the name "Ishu"/"Yeshu" and the Candomblé's divine entity, "Exu"/"Èsù". Both Jesus and Exu are related to pathways, with bible describing Jesus as the "pathway, truth and life", and Exu being referred as the guardian of pathways and crossroads.
“Go pick up your copy of the Septuagint”
Right lemme go grab that.
Many people have a copy of the Septuagint.
@@shainazion4073 exactly, you can order one online if not available at your local bookstore.
@@shainazion4073 A partial copy, at least. Some denominations have different sets of texts that may exclude certain books.
@@Lilithksheh7723 The Septuagint is one book, the Tanakh that was translated to Greek. It was translated in the 3rd century BCE by 70 or 72 Jewish scholars, therefore named the Septuagint, or "the Seventy"
@@shainazion4073 Oh. Durp.
excellent video, as always! i wanted to ask you - is it possible to include captions (not auto-generated ones because they're often times not great) in your videos? i have auditory processing disorder and even though you talk very clearly, i have to rewatch some parts. i always watch videos with captions if they're avaiable. it would make videos accesible for deaf people and people who learn english. thanks in advance!
In Arab countries and Pakistan, he is commonly referred to as Isa (Arabic ʕiːsaː, Urdu ʔiːsaː) by the Muslims, but by the Christians he is reffered as Yasu (Arabic jasuːʕ Urdu jasuː) or Yasu al-Masih (Arabic jasuːʕal masiːħ Urdu jasuːal masiːh), I've heard that the reason for this is that he Arabs always called him Isa, but the people living outside the Arabian peninsula who didn't speak Arabic called him Yasu or Yeshu, but when Islam spread and Arabic became the dominant language, the people who converted to Islam had no problem changing his name to Isa, but the Christians didn't, and they kept it as Yasu, since Urdu is heavily influenced by Arabic, I suppose that this also spread to Pakistan.
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What an amazing amount of research and preparation went into this 16 minute video! Very impressive.
Your channel is so unbelievably interesting! Every single video I’m watching and learning tons I never would have thought to research.
Crazy what scholars and scientists know and discover. So don't settle for common sense popular beliefs
@@AB-et6nj Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe.
Jesus's Son Of Mary's, Real Name:
Arabic it's عِيسَى (Isa) and Aramaic is īšōʕ (Isho) I speak both languages.
In Turkish, we sound it as "İsa", so similar to 'yesu'. Thank you for the knowledge !
This was a really good episode. I always wondered how to properly pronounce the name of Jesus in the original language. Can you do an episode on the pronunciation of YHWH?
With some historical context at the beginning of why it was often *not* pronounced in Jewish traditions! ;)
I follow Larry Gonick's example and pronounce YHWH as "Yahoo Wahoo".
It would be difficult to do without being potentially very disrespectful.
@@Salsmachev it's definitely a sensitive topic but religious studies allows for discussion of taboo information as long as the scholar isn't making a judgement on the value of the theological content.
@@Gumper30 Not just YHWH's pronunciation, but that deity's origins. I've read that YHWH was a pagan tribal god worshipped by the Israelites' Canaanite neighbors, and became incorporated into the Jews' concept of God over several centuries, shedding his deity family (wife and kids) and his original godly powers (as the god of war and storms). You want controversy? Try explaining to Mosaic monotheists that they've been worshipping a partly pagan god all along.
Despite being an Arabic expert rather than a Hebrew or Aramaic expert, I still knew exactly where you were heading... those guttural sounds never fail to perplex and enthrall learners of Semitic languages haha
إنها فعلا من أصعب الأصوات الموجودة في اللغات السامية حيث أنها نادرة في أغلبية اللغات الأخرى (ما عدا عدة لغات أفرو-آسيوية العائلة الكبيرة التي تتضمن العائلة السامية، فضلا عن وجود هذه الأصوات في بعض لغات منطقة القوقاز وعدة لغات السكان الأصليين في شمال غرب أمريكا الشمالية)
تعديل: نسيت ذكر أنها أيضا تلاشت حتى في بعض اللغات السامية الحديثة كالعبرية المعاصرة والمالطية وبعض اللهجات الآرامية المعاصرة المنثورة في شمال العراق وجنوب شرق تركيا. والأدهى أن بعض الناطقين بهذه اللغات ليس لديهم دراية أن هذه الأصوات كانت موجودة في لغاتهم في الماضي وباتوا يتخيلون أن حرفَي الألف والعين مثلا كان لهما نفس النطق حتى في قديم الزمان وهذا أبعد ما يمكن أن يكون عن الحقيقة!
@@ThatBernie هل درست اللسانيات؟ لأنه نادرا ما تعرف الناس هذه الكمية من المعلومات عن العائلات اللغوية (اما انا درستها في الجامعة)
@@protoeuro نعم حاصل على شهادة ماجستير في اللغويات
This was a fun ride, great research and source material and as a believer this information is super useful.
SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe.
Quran [Last Testament]:
The Likeness Of Jesus Son Of Mary, Is Akin To Birth, To That Of Adam.
I'm Chinese. We call Jesus “耶稣”(pinyin: Ye Su) in mandarin, so it is very close to the pronunciation of Jesus in Greek, Iesous.
During Tang dynasty, we call Jesus“移鼠”(pinyin: Yi Shu), close to Ishu still.
By the way, we call Grace “希腊”(pinyin: Xi La) in mandarin, also the same as Hellas in pronunciation in Greek itself.
Not mainland China, correct?
@@sarahwieland No, exactly in mainland China.
@@茛苕 Interesting, isn't I thought persecution was an issue in mainland China.
@@sarahwieland Mainland China does lack a certain degree of religion freedom when compared to the west. But much more liberal than the Soviet used to be. All religions, as long as the Communist party allows, are tolerated and regulated autonomously, the administration doesn't really persecute as long as the religions and verious sects behave themselves under the communist rule.
You may have noticed that recently several bishops in mainland China who used not to be consecrated by the Vatican have already been recognized by the Vatican and the Pope years before .
Is there a Chinese version of the Latin shorthand I.N.R.I. ?
_Iesous Nazarenus Rexus Iudea_
This video was wonderful! And it's wonderful to see such a linguistic study, nicely done!
This is one of the few videos I have downloaded to my phone. I love the introduction: “Brought to you by incogni: Jesus…”
Andrew - do you want to learn how to say Jesus's real name
Me - Yeah sure
Andrew - Correct!
We were always taught that his name in that time would've been Joshua/Yeshua. It's fascinating that you go way way more into why that may have been. And equally as fascinating that Jesus' name would survive and be revived to be passed down in my Catholic school education.
it is possible that that idea simply stemmed from a time with way less linguistical research into the languages of the time than we have today. The papers he showed demonstrate that linguists still work on unravelling the lost knowledge about how such things were pronounced, mostly based on transkription (that is how different things were spelled when different language writers had to represent them) and it is possible that the ones bringing the "old knowledge" around just didn't know better.
Just like a lot of textual knowledge did not exist before the discovery of the dead sea scrolls that revealed a lot previously unknown texts and text variants. ;)
@No sht Sherlock I know this is a joke, but we were always taught he was a Jew at that time. He couldn't very well be Catholic or Christian
@@Ugly_German_Truths oh yeah, most assuredly my teachers probably learned about this from some of the same papers he did. And as assured, there's been research since. And I mean... It was k-8, this is a bit of a higher level explanation lol. Just marveling and grateful for the knowledge
- Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@termination9353 You a real clown
You need a million views!
This was so cool to watch! In Armenian Jesus Christ is Հիսուս Քրիստոս
(“Hisus Kristos”) pronounced as HEE-SUS. I remember going to my first RE (Religious Eduction) class in England when I was 11 and being surprised at the teacher for saying “Jesus”.
In Indonesia, mostly call him Yesus. There are so many tribes here and we call him in different name as well, especially when singing using tribe language. My parents are batak toba so they call him Jesus and Kristus. For God, it is written on mom's bibble for batak as Jahoba and Debata.
But, we go to church were majority is Dayak and they call him Yesus. Some of my friend at school who are Toraja call him Yesu. The other one call him Isa and he is from Aceh.
When I sing christian song, then I will call him Jesus. But, it is still the same.
Nicely broken down. It's like in a language class when the teacher asks for your name I that language. I always used my middle name as my first name doesn't have a translation in most languages.
I have kind of a silly question about the creation of the letter “J.” Was it just understood that written context would determine a word’s pronunciation? I don’t imagine anyone would see “Iames” and think it was anything other than “James,” but I could imagine it causing more confusion with common words. Especially if there wasn’t a lowercase “j” yet either.
This is practically the opposite circumstance, but I’m reminded how in the Puerto Rican dialect of Spanish, words ending in the letter “S” lose that letter’s sound. So “gracias” just sounds like “gracia.” It’s just understood and implied. It’s something I’m still having to actively remember when speaking to my partner’s family. I know this wasn’t the focus of the video - my apologies.
I’m an anthropologist specializing in Ancient Celtic culture, but my thesis had a linguistic focus. I really wish I’d kept with it because this video had me completely enraptured, and generally I have a fascination with etymology - specifically the etymology of given names.
The letter "i" and "j" originaly made a near identical sound so there wasn't really a neef to diffrienciate it. Sound change made them more diffrent to each other so having diffrent letters was more important.
The letter 'j' was developed in the 16th century to represent the sound better. Prior to it's popularization, 'i' was the closest natural phonological equivalent sound for Latin speaking people of the 'y' sound in Hebrew; so, for a name like 'iames', they wouldn't have pronounced with with the 'j' sound.
Yes, the pronunciation would just depend on the position (and the specific word in question, which you might just have to know).
In Latin, where the alphabet comes from, we have the same thing: the letter i would be pronounced differently depending on position and environment. It basically works like the letter Y in Spanish: yo and y are pronounced in two versions, similar to Latin i. I'm not sure which variants of Spanish do or don't do this, but I've heard people pronouncing "yo" or "Yolanda" etc. with a sound that was similar (though a bit weaker) to the English J.
Thank you all so much! You’ve given me new avenues leading to unexplored (for me at least) rabbit holes.
The spelling of English throughout the centuries has been wild. If I remember correctly there was no standard spelling of English words in the seventeenth century, in fact Shakespeare’s manuscripts show that often he spelled the same word in different ways. Furthermore words that haven’t changed their spelling now have a different pronunciation. We know that because Shakespeare used rhymes so when a rhyme it’s expected and it doesn’t really work it’s because the word had a different pronunciation. Hope it’s clear. In conclusion I am not even sure how James was pronounced in earlier centuries but I am willing to bet it was not like today’s and the letter j was adopted to reflect the difference between i and j that usage had produced.
Btw I am not a linguist, just listened to videos about the topic because of personal interest. The field is huge but to give you an idea (in case you don’t already know) you can look up “the great vowel shift”. It’s about the dramatic transformation English language went through between the 1400s and 1700s.
I am an Aramaic speaker (mainly Chaldean Neo Aramaic) and we call Jesus ܝܫܘܥ (pronounced: Esh’o with that Ain sound at the end).
And yes that’s how I would say Jesus actual name was pronounced or maybe close to that.
but how are you pronouncing the "Ain" sounds like Ian in english or without the a?
@@annasaddiction5129 copy this Arabic letter and hear the pronunciation “ ع "
Romans 10:13 “For ‘whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Eminent historian Ernest Renan studied the life of Christ, and he acknowledged that the Savior was never in His life time known by or called by the name of “Jesus” (THE LIFE OF JESUS, p. 90). The name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century. In the 1611 English Version of the Bible (KJV), the name of Christ is Iesus (pronounced “ee-sus”), and only later was it changed to Jesus (pronounced “gee-sus”). The revealed name is very important to our salvation in Christ. The idea of taking God’s name in vain, which means to bring His Name to uselessness, or changing His name, or taking a vow by His name and not fulfilling that vow, so this is what is meant by “taking His name in vain” (Exodus 20:2). We must acknowledge that the name of salvation cannot be changed, “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). You cannot change the revealed name of our Savior, and there is no excuse acceptable to God for doing so, even if one speaks in another tongue, or rather because of the languages, of mankind. You must take this very seriously, for the warning of God is clear: “‘If you will not hear, and if you will not take it to heart, to give glory to My name {YAH},’ Says the Lord of hosts, I will send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart” (Malachi 2:2). Although there are descriptive names, there is only one Personal name of God by which to give glory to the LORD, as we say, “Halleluyah,” which is, “Praise YAH!” Knowing God’s revealed name is very important for this is the only name of salvation. The Bible tells us the name of salvation, “Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation’” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV). Therefore, we must “Praise YAH,” as many may be unknowingly doing when they say, “Halleluyah!” “Praise YAH!” These other names produced by man via linguistic evolution are lacking a, “Thus says the LORD!” These man-made names, which are a product of languages, and not the revelation of God, such as Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous, and not to mention “Hey-zeus, are not valid. ~So where did we get the true name of God, the very name “YAH”? Moses asked God for His name, and God replied, “HAYAH Ashar HAYAH,” which means: “I AM Who I AM,” therefore, Moses was told the essential name of God is YAH, I AM (HAYAH, the I AM), for God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM {YAH} has sent me to you.’” (Exodus 3:14). People say, “Oh, the Lord has many names.” No, the Lord has only One Personal essential name, which always has “YAH.” “And God spoke to Moses and said to him: ‘I, the Lord. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as EL SHADDAI [God Almighty], but by My name YAHAWAH, I was not known to them’” (Exodus 6:2-3). Therefore, the name YAH is the essential and the consistently true name of God. For this name YAH is the name which is above every name! The apostle Paul originally wrote this about the Savior’s name, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of YAHSHUA every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Messiah is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11).
Here are the facts: The Savior told them that He was the I AM, as in “YAH” (John 8:58), and more facts:
1. Moses was given the name which is above every name [YAH]. (see Exodus 3:14)
2. The apostle Paul testifies that Christ has the name which is above every name [YAH]. (see Philippians 2:9)
3. The Lord YAH made it clear to Moses that although He, God, was known by many descriptive names, for example, El Shaddai, Emmanuel, Lord, Savior, Messiah, He only has One Personal Essential Name: YAH.
4. The apostle Peter states: “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).
5. The apostle Paul heard the Savior give His name in Hebrew on the road to Damascus (Acts 26:15). We know that the Savior did not say, “Jesus,” because:
• The name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century c.e. (1611 English Bible: “Iesus.”) Contrarily to what many say, the name Jesus does not mean salvation.
• The name Jesus is not a Hebrew name.
• The name Jesus came from many linguistic changes: Iesus (ee-sus), Iesous (ee-ay-sous), a transliteration of Yeshua, which is a common Aramaic name at the time of Christ.
• The Lord has revealed His name only in Hebrew (Exodus 3:14; Isaiah 12:2; Act 26:14-15). Behold the One revealed Name by which we must be saved: YAHSHUA! And every tongue, language of mankind, is to know this one name YAHSHUA (Philippians 2:11).
And this is the essence of the Gospel: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:16-18).
Logically, if there are many names for Christ, then to accept one among the many would be tantamount to rejecting the rest. Therefore, there can only be one revealed name given according to one language, as it is, and should be in Hebrew. Otherwise, how can we be sure that we are not rejecting the Lord’s revealed name from Heaven?
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I like how his guy tries to shed light on all the possibilities he knows or has researched. Keep up the good work.
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
I have thought Yeshua ben Joseph. (Yeshua, son of Joseph). Not my religion, I am Buddhist, but I am a bit of a Comparative Religions scholar. Why I LOVE your channel!
When I was a kid, in church (former christian), the preacher made a really funny little joke.
He asked the congregation: "What is god's first name?"
When no one could answer, he said, "Andy."
We were all like, "Andy?!?!"
The preacher said, "Yes! In the bible it says, 'Andy (And he) gave his only begotten son."
I think that was a pretty funny little quip from the Pastor!
Yeshua BAR Yosef
@@luciannawolfstone2598 Well, Hebrew isn't my first language, but a simple Google will bring up BEN. I bothered to double check, since you replied.
Ben is Hebrew for "son", BAR is Aramaic.
6 in one, half a doz in the other.
@Jesse I know.
This isn't a comment on the video but I could listen to you for hours.
Interesting, I just gave a lesson on this topic yesterday and agree with everything that you have said. Nice! Thank you.
One of the most interesting videos. The ending seemed cut off.
Super interesting to hear all the ways Jesus has been pronounced and that Yeshu is closer to the real pronunciation than Jesus. 👍🏼
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@termination9353 heritic
@@Triniforchrist Paulian antichrist.
As someone who talks, it was cool to see you talking in this video.
In Swedish it’s common for older text to write “Jesu” without the s! For instance you could say “Jesu Kristi” and it would be interpreted by a majority as an older, more formal way of saying “Jesus Kristus” which is Jesus Christ in modern Swedish.
Funny who this could be close to the actual name, since Scandinavia was Christened very late. Full circle by chance!
jesu christi is also an older/more formal version in German
@@chegu613 In genitive, i.e. Jesus Christ's so-and-so. It's a Latin genitive and totally weird from a German perspective, where genitives are in -s and written language only.
Interesting... Jesus Christ in Spanish is Jesucristo !
As the narrator points out, the final 's' of the Greek 'iesous' is added to grammatically indicate the nominative. But addressing him directly (in Latin certainly, I've long forgotten all my Greek) would require the vocative. So does the older English usage 'Jesu' come from Jerome's Latin Vulgate?
I’ve read a lot of claims, some attributed to Hebrew scholars, which seem to think it was ‘Yahushua’ where “Yahu” is pronounced quickly as though the two syllables were rolled into one, making it sound like “Yow” followed by an emphasized “Shoo” and finishing with a less emphasized “uh”…yowSHOOuh also is an abbreviated reference to a longer phrase which translates into “The Creator saves”
what about the name Yahusha??
The biggest take I get from this is, J isn't real and A at the end of a word is sneaky 😂
Interestingly, Jesus is called Yaeshu or Yashu in Indian languages.
Christianity arrived in India pretty early and It's possible the pronounciation remained largely unchanged since it remained a small largely localised religion.
I'd like to know the Ethiopian pronounciation since it's another non westerm early Christian country
Yes and some Christians use Allah for God interestingly...
@@chendaforest Because Allah is just the Arabic word for "god". It's not an individual name per se, it's just been closely associated with Islam because the Quran uses it.
@@varana I see. So what do Christians call God by hallowed name ? Is it Jesus or something else ?
@@chendaforest according to the English translation of the Bible the name of god is Yahweh.
@@chendaforest It's a bit complicated, but generally speaking, Christians just say "god" in their native language. In English, "God", in French, "Dieu", in Russian, "Bog", in Arabic, "Allah", and so on. Or they use other honorifics - "the Lord" is very commonly used. (Again, whatever "lord" is in each language.)
In both Judaism and Christianity, God theoretically has a name, but it is rarely used - in Judaism, it's only used in the written form (YHWH, with no vowels because Hebrew), and never spoken. In Christianity, these four letters are sometimes pronounced in different ways (Yahweh, Jehovah, or similar), but essentially, we're not exactly sure what the vowels were. But again, that is not often used.
Jesus is considered one of the parts of God in Christianity (as said - it's complicated).
Researcher: "Am I pronouncing it right: 'ye+shoo+ah?'"
Expert: "Yea, sure, close enough."
They could redo that scene in Super Troopers. "Are you saying 'Yes, sir', or 'Yeah, sure'...or one of the proposed original vocalizations of the true name of the historical Jesus?"
The same way they changed Ɛishtar/ɛashtor > ɛashtirot to Astirot
Sounds similar to the Christian version of Arabic Name of Jesus, Who is 'Yashou3a' ( يشوع ), instead of Isa
Yeah, and the Arabic ayin is probably the closest approximation we can find today. That, and perhaps Mizrahi Jewish (especially Yemenite) pronunciation of ayin in Hebrew.
I enjoy these language related videos. It's a good reminder of how varied language is.
In Croatian it's Isus (pronouned E-soos)
But also in some dialects in Croatia it is Jezuš (Je like Hey without the H and y and e switched, z as in Zoo but just the z, uš as in oosh)
This is fascinating because in Tamil, Jesus is still called Yesu, which is exactly the pronunciation of 8:25.
@El Malakh Feo
also the religion of yesu got converted to isai instead of Christianity
Zarathustra is pretty common in English too, I think. I'd still like to know what exactly was the first form of Christianity that entered India, whether it was Greek or Syriac.
Christianity was brought to this region of the world by the Eastern Church. who spoke Syriac a later form of Aramaic.
@@chronikhiles I think Syriac, Christianity reached India pretty early, before Greek or Latin Christian groups spread east
Well not exactly because Tamil doesn't have pharyngeal consonants equivalent to 'ayin
Great video!
Ayin is well preserved in Arabic, where you can still hear its original pronounciation. Or in Modern Hebrew, but only with distinct Mizrahi ("Oriental") pronounciation. Ashkenazi Israelis tend to pronounce it smoothly with a sound that resembles "thinking aloud": "ehh". Today's students of Hebrew often struggle to recognize the difference between ayin and aleph as the recent shifts in pronounciation make the two letters sound very similarly. Modern Hebrew refers to Jesus as "Yeshu" (ישו) with the exception of Messianic Jews, who prefer the word ישוע (Yeshua) due to its religious connotation ("salvation").
In modern Hebrew ayin is usually pronounced as a glottal stop, not really an ehhh
You make religion so digestible. Thank you
This is what I want. I'm a Christian and I absolutely loved this. You didn't mock my beliefs you didn't say anything to make anyone believer or not upset. Just a great informative story. Very very interesting
Interestingly, critics of Christianity use this fact that Jesus was created as a fictional character to be a mirror character of the Hebrew bible hero Joshua by giving him the same name.
@@druidriley3163 excuse me ,I'm a Critic towards Christianity, do you want me to Explained why we think Jesus is a Fictional character?
@@trianjezraellumontad7661 -- *Explained why we think Jesus is a Fictional character* Because he has all the hallmarks of one? No history, his birth is either omitted or not consistent in the telling, his family lineage is also inconsistent, he starts off as an infant in only two stories, born like all Greek demigods, then immediately jumps forward 30+ years? Meaning, there's no need to discuss his life, just him as messenger? And there is no contemporary evidence for him? Nothing is written about him until decades and centuries after his supposed existence? Sounds pretty fictional to me.
@@trianjezraellumontad7661did your great grand father exist?
This is an interesting video, because in my language Jesus is Yeshu. It sounds very close to the ancient way to pronounce the name
What language do you speak?
Before studying biblical history and Jewish history for my Ph.D. in Theology I used to believe the same way, that the gospels were written in Greek originally. I soon found out this was not the case.
The original texts were in Hebrew and Aramaic and were later translated into Greek once Christianity started immerging as a new religion, where some changes were made to the texts and some additional verses were added. The Jewish followers of Yeshua in the first centuries used both Hebrew and Aramaic texts in the church in Jerusalem where James, the brother of Yeshua was the first bishop. When they were forced out of Jerusalem by the Christians who had become the majority in 70AD with the destruction of the temple, they fled to Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. The group that ended up in Jordan used the Hebrew text while the group that went to Syria and Lebanon used the Aramaic texts.
It always bothered me that the Greek language would be used by devout Jews given the fact that the Greek language is the language of pagans and the Greeks were who tried to completely destroy Judaism less than two centuries before this time, which no Jew would have forgotten about. This is where the story of Hanukkah described in the book of Macabbees comes from after a small group of Jewish fighters liberated the temple from occupying forces in the 2nd century BC. This would be considered the language of their enemies, and would be comparable to them using the German language after World War 2 to write sacred texts with, it just wouldn't happen.
The apostle Barnabas when he went to India to spread the gospel took a complete Hebrew version of the New Testament with him and left them in India. Those Hebrew texts are now in a museum in London.
And your evidence for an original Hebrew version is...?
@@johnvonkerman Because a Hebrew version was carried by Barnabas to India, it has been sitting in a museum in London. I used it as part of my doctoral research.
@@WH6FQE can you tell me the name of this text?
@@johnvonkerman The collection of scrolls has a designation, not a name, but I do not remember off hand what the letter and number designator was right now. I will have to research it again, its been more than 30 years.
I love your content, unbiased, it's great for most people despite their beliefs
Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
@@termination9353 Jesús real name couldn't have been a name that sound Greek when he was an arameic Jewish
@@vjara94 "Jesus name couldn't be Greek when he is a Jew"
NONSENSE - all these Maccabean kings had Hellenized names. John Hyrcanus I: 135-104 BC
Aristobulus I: 104-103 BC
Alexander Janneus: 103-76 BC
Hyrcanus II (Salome Alexandra): 76-67 BC
Aristobulus II: 67-63 BC
General Pompey captures Jerusalem and reappoints Hyrcranus II as high priest: 63 BC
Hycranus II exiled to Parthia: 40-36 BC
Antigonus II: 40-37 BC
Hycranus II lives with Babylonian Jews: 35 BC
@@termination9353 you're talking of hellenized jews, OK they have adopted Greek, What does that have to do with the fact that Jesus speak arameic, he teached in arameic, and he was born to an arameic speaking community, why his name would have been in Greek?
@@vjara94 You don't know what language Jesus spoke or if he spoke in several languages and dialects. You weren't there. And the main point is Jesus] name is supposed to mean God With Us and not 'Saviour' or whatever you are translating Yeshua as IT'S NOT God With Us so it is not the correct answer. The only way to match the Hebrew name Emmanuel to a Greek name is to be using Zeus WHO WAS GOD Of GOD'S - Don't try to sell me your lie about sky god. You already showed your ignorance claiming Jews did not use Greek names.
As an anecdote, modern arabic still uses the 3yn (guttural end sound I'll write as '3') in both of the two versions it has of Jesus's name. While the Muslim version is 3eesa (عيسى) (taken from other local languages I suppose) the form used in arabic by christains is the much more interesting yasoo3, which reminds me of the proposed yeshoo3 original pronunciation
This is so fascinating. Listening to this made me realise that a lot of biblical names in Malayalam the language spoken in Kerala, south India, are almost the same as in the original Aramaic. Take the names Mariam, Yohanan, Mōsha, Isahac, Yākob for example. The name for Jesus is even more fascinating. We use both Yēshu and Īsho interchangeably both colloquially as well as liturgically. Could be a result the early missionaries from that region transmitting these names directly. St. Thomas is believed to have preached and been martyred here as well as waves of Syrian Christian missionaries who arrived with traders as early as the 3rd century.
Thank you!
Some Jewish communities pronounced ע as a ng-sound, as in the word "siNGer". in IPA: ŋ .
That's the sound that I still use today to pronounce ע which helps to distinguish it from א .
Thus a possible pronunciation of ישוע would also be «yešung» or «yešuªng» .
Every time I see a video title from Religion For Breakfast and think "I know the answer to this one" I'm either wrong or miss a ton of nuance.
I usually just assume that what I thought I knew is incorrect.
@@gubruikertje haha, you're right!
He would not be confused at all. Just as knew the woman who was sick touched the hem of his garment. Jesus transcends such simple things.
How strong would diglossia have been that Jesus would have understood or been referred to as Iesous (in Greek) as well as his Aramaic name? The New Testament suggests Jesus must have known at least some level of Greek given his interactions with Romans.
We don't know to what extent the Gospels are reliable. It may be the case Jesus never talked to a roman, or maybe through a translator only.
@@chefchaudard3580 They aren't really points to make up though. I could see a translator getting left out. That said, knowing Greek in first century Palestine may not have been a particularly uncommon thing. It was the English of its time
@@andrelegeant88 it is, however, unlikely that some jewish rabbi who never left Galilea, a remote province, learned some greek. Why would he do that?
It is still possible, but we have no reliable evidence of that.
@@chefchaudard3580 Galilee was remote from JERUSALEM's point of view. In the bigger scheme of things it was the area where Jews lived next door to Greeks thanks to its proximity to Seleucid lands and the prevalence of Greek cities and colonies there. In fact, most Galileans had to make their money from trade with the Greek cities. A tekton (woodworker) like Jesus would have had few clients in his native Nazareth. Wood was a fairly expensive commodity there, but would have been fairly abundant in the wealthy Greek cities. So while Galilee is considered the backwater by Jews, it was actually a very cosmopolitan region where all the Jews, Greeks, and local non-Jewish groups mingled freely.
Also, the reason Jews from Judaea thought their Galilean brethren were bumpkins was because Galilean Jews were the lowest rung of society in their own lands. Unlike Judaean Jews who had their own big cities and enjoyed access to Hellenistic culture while maintaining some level of political autonomy, Galileans didn't have their own cities precisely because the cities in their area were Greek (or Hellenistic).
@@chefchaudard3580 The most common liturgical language for Jews of the period was the Septuagint, however, and the elites (i.e. customers) for Jesus as a carpenter would have spoken Greek. We see today where many immigrants to the US are not very educated but still know English to varying degrees because it is economically necessary.
That was great explanation of the name Jesus but I’m still not sure why we differentiate Joshua and Jesus today when they originally had the same name
Joshua comes from Yehoshua. Jesus from Yeshua. Yeshua came from Yehoshua.
basically one name is just one more translation ahead the other
I have always personally interpreted it as being done for Narrative Clarity being that in English there are already 2 Characters in the Text by the Name Joshua and so they want a clear distinction between the 'lesser' Joshua's and Jesus.
@@ReligionForBreakfast So you confirm that either way it's Joshua. (But it's not) Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus).
Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty.
"Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus
so much for people who believe in "salvation via pronunciation"
In arabic language we have the letter (ayn) that is used for the a in the end of yeshua and it is the same letter of hebrew and the letter is nearly impossible to learn if it is not in your first language, you can learn to say things close to it like the letter A (in english) but you can't say it, and when it is used in the end of the word it's almost silent and the strangers to this letter will think that the U is the last letter in Yeshua so those 2 reasons for saying Yeshua and Yeshu instead of his hebrew name
The only problem with this video is that it doesn't explain why English pronounces Jesus's name is pronounced as /dʒiː/ instead of /jeː/. The video implies that the English arbitrarily started to pronounce the name that way. However, this is not true. The reality is that Latin /j/ developed into a /dʒ/ in Old French which carried over to Middle English after the Normans conquered England. When Late Middle English became Early Modern English, the Great Vowel Shift was starting to take place. The /eː/ in /dʒeːzus/ became /iː/. This is the reason for the pronunciation in English.
my question is: why do we only pronounce the biblical figure Jesus as "jee zus" but every other person with the exact same spelling is pronounced "hey soos"? 🤔🤷🏼♂️
@@graphixkillzzz The "hey-soos" pronunciation is how the Spanish language developed those sounds. I think it went like this:
Late Latin: /ʝ/
Western Romance/Old Spanish: /dʒ/
Late Old Spanish: /ʒ/
Early Modern Spanish: /ʃ/
Modern Spanish: /x/
If I am wrong on the technicals, correct me. I am right about the begining and end developments though.
Very interesting video.
A correction about the Greek pronunciation though.
The first letter in Ιησούς (Iesous) is an I (Yiota) and it's pronounced as "ee" not "ye"
So the Greek pronunciation starts with a diphthong (ee-ee) ..that makes it "i-isous"
Actually this makes sense.
If I remember correctly Christianity reached the Indian sub-Continent via my State Kerala.
And in the local Malayalam language, I have heard Jesus being referred to as both "Yeshu" as well as "Eeshow".
Christianity in Kerala is older than Europe
I love the idea that Iesus was talking a pumpkin rural dialect.
kinda of like Arnold Schwarzenegger. A beast of a man but his native language and accent is seen as "very rural and country" version of German.
Jesus spoke 3 languages
Just watching this now. Your production team has a writer Andrew and an editor Mark 😂 Nice!
His real name was Reginald Dwight....oh no, hang on....that was Elton John
His real name is Chris Palko but he's also known as the illest four letter word in the world.
Love your channel. I just had a little chuckle at the irony of a video about Jesus and dates being given as "CE". I don't have a preference, just made me chuckle.
Interestingly, the way Latin renders the Name, Iesus (Yeh-soos) or Iezus (Yeh-zoos), is in the 4th Declension instead of the 2nd Declension; the result is that the cases use more long or reiterated U (pronounced 'oo') sounds, which could be how the Romans interpreted the gutteral sound of Hebrew (considering that St Jerome knew Hebrew and Aramaic himself, I wouldn't be surprised); this is in contrast to the 2nd Declension, in which the cases take forms with i and o.
Example:
Jezus in the Genitive looks like Jezūs, indicating a more drawn out sound.
If it were 2nd Dec, it would be Jezī.
So clearly there was some aspect of the Name that Romans felt necessitated the 4th Declension.
I would love it if you did a video on the stories in the Quran that seem to parallel Christian apocrypha that was popular at the time and how that might have happened.
Likely due to the gradual collapse of the Roman Empire which lead the growth of these apocalyptic cults.
Christ refers to being anointed, or covered in oil.
My buddy calls Jesus Oily Josh.
oily josh and the greasy boys
Why the oil ?
The Christ, the anointed one , the Messiah
Christ Jesus
Title & Name
Christ is a Title
& Jesus is a Name
In the Old Testament,
a King was anointed with oil
A priest was anointed with oil
Titles are associated with offices
(Position, rank, duties & benefits of office)
Joshua or Yesuah
means Jehovah is salvation or Yah saves
This video also explains the name (but not the title)
ua-cam.com/video/na22KkydPRs/v-deo.htmlsi=SmOlyqCS6LpCHoeJ
My father was born in Europe of German parents in 1905. His given name was Fritz. The family immigrated to the United States a couple of years later.
In the early 1920s, my father became a naturalized citizen of the United States. His naturalization papers listed his name as Fred and, for the rest of his life, he introduced himself as Fred and signed his name, Fred.
Dad’s older brother, Joseph, called him Fritz even decades later, presumably because that is what he had called him when they were boys growing up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
In the 1950s, Dad explained to me that “Fred” was a transliteration of the “German name” of Fritz and that I shouldn’t say that Fred was not his real name.
I don’t mind if people use whatever name they prefer to use to refer to the best-known resident of the Galilean town of Nazareth.
Maybe I shouldn’t admit to being disgusted by people who say or imply that Jesus isn’t his real name or who use their favorite (supposedly Hebrew) pronunciation of his name as a sort of code to identify their particular in-group. My annoyance, however, sometimes goes beyond merely thinking of such people as using a modern-day equivalent of saying long prayers or taking great pride in the prominent display of phylacteries.