I had to chuckle. You made a point that you were going to put the frames into the new box in the same order, which you did, BUT you turned each and everyone one of them around 180 degrees in the process, so that no two faces that used to be facing one another were after the swap.
Yes I realised that 😄 What I mean is keep the frames together the same way. Not put frame 6 in the middle or put a brand new frame with foundation in the middle of the brood etc Basically keeping the brood together
Super helpful video as usual, great for giving confidence. It would be really helpful if you gave a date to each one so we know what time of year it is when you are tending your bees. Perhaps it is on there somewhere...
Hi Gruff - nice and straight forward. Have you ever had a double brood nuc, i.e. Payne 6 frame with brood extension on top? If so, is the transferring into full hive much different? Cheers
Thanks, yes a lot of my nucs are double brood. Process is exactly the same apart from you start on one end of the box and work your way to the other end. Keep top frames together then add the bottom frames into the box
@@gwenyngruffydd WE have a double brood / brood extension on a poly nuc and will most likely overwinter like this. Is there any need to improve the ventilation with a small hole or something?
Super vid. And big help, for I'm about to do the same. But when I did a quick inspection yesterday. I'd noticed a few Queen cells. Which I took down. I know I'm literally a week late though. I have just brought them to a new location as in area. Fingers crossed by putting them into their new hive tomorrow now will change the Queens swarming desire?!
@@gwenyngruffydd thank you, I sure will. May a have a play around. I'll transfer them later today. The weather seems good. Let them build up the new foundation over next coming days. Then if she continues and as you say, their mind is made up. Take her back to her original location in a split, with all fresh foundation bar one. Leaving this national with a ripe QC. Well that's my plan. Probably won't agree with their plan!! Happy Easter to you and your family too
What do you do with extra nucs you have left over from the previous year do you just keep them on to the following year and if so how do u stop them swarming
There is never any nucs left over really. Percentage to sell/ sold over winter. Percentage for increases and a percentage for replacements. Any nucs that’s left gets split and turned into more nucs. 😊
A good video with a nice intro into a few different considerations, with vehicle size and picking up gear from auctions. We're looking to the future and that was helpful... food for thought. Did you realise when you transfered the frames, they were in the right order, but the seams were turned 180? (Wondering if that was deliberate)
@@patdwyer6274 Probably not to the nest of brood, but depending on a warm/cold way, we sometimes find there can be more stores to one side of the frame, and whichever side the sun falls on the hive, that can also change the way ours seem to fill the frames. Also, they'll build comb to the bee space between the seams, so Gruff may have seen something thats not clear in the video.
Hi, I always keep the frames running the warm way. No reason other than making inspections easier for me. With nucs you have no option of warm or cold way. I’m sure you could even transfer the frames in anyway and the bees would still get on with it. Hope you get a good season enjoying your social media posts 😊👍🏻
4x4 van? I know a couple that travelled around the world in a Mitsubishi Delica. There's a short and a long wheelbase version and it's basically a people carrier/van/4x4. The seats pop out in the rear to make a decent sized van (maybe double what the L200 holds). It's based on the Shogun chassis so it's basically a Shogun with a van on it. They are all imports though so expect to pay a little more on insurance, but it would get you to every place the L200 will... Pretty much the same car in a different shirt!
That’s a fair shout! I have looked at them. But because their a people carrier it would be hard to fully seal the back up and make it pressure washable. Such a shame they don’t make a commercial version. It would be brilliant!
@@gwenyngruffydd Any vehicle can be modified to meet needs for a business. It is possible to ply line the rear and seal the gaps with Sikaflex. Also, it's possible to build a 'wall' between the rear seating area and rear load space with ply and have it removable or sealed. It doesn't cost that much to do if you have tools and a keenness for DIY. Would a twin rear wheel van with chunky tyres on be any good? I know festival crew that use them for going across fields with gear. Could also combine 2 vehicles: For example, a Renault RB44 chassis cab with a luton box on the back. They are old yes but you could get to every hive with it. Also, I believe it has a Cummins engine, not a renault so really good. After that... Unimog! 😁
On the modifying option; Your L200 like most pickups is based on a single chassis and all L200 models are built upon that. Yours is a double/crew cab with a short bed on it, the other option is a single cab with a long bed on it. Another option I have seen is where the bed is removed completely and something else replaces it like a camper or custom made work body. Utility companies tend to have a custom truckman style tool box type thing with roller doors etc on. If you know what you want, I know a guy who used to fabricate staging for Glastonbury festival. He's bang on in a workshop!
Hi I always enjoy your videos however I couldn't help but notice after mentioning the importance of putting the nest into the new brood box the same as it was in the nuc, you managed get them all the wrong way round !! watch the Video again and you'll see. Just saying!! 😂
Hi, Do you mean that I turned them 90 degree’s from cold way to warm way? That was done on purpose. I prefer warm way for easy inspections. Or did I totally mix up the frames? This was a mistake if I did do that. 😅 The bees would make it work either way but it’s always best to keep the frames in the same order.
@@gwenyngruffydd hi, if you watch the Video you'll see that you put the frames into the brood box the wrong way round so none of the faces matched the previous orientation, this is not a criticism I thought I'd just mention it. Keep up the good work. 👍
Aaaa I get you 😄 but the frames are still the same but they are turned 180 degrees? That’s ok. The reason I say put them back in the same way so people don’t pull an end frame full of stores and put it in the middle of the nest. Great observation on spotting it!! 😄
Why not bring the trailer and unhitch it at the other side of the bridge? You would have had all your kit then. Could have driven back to the trailer and filled the pickup again!
@@gwenyngruffydd yep there isn’t one vehicle that does every job..better to have lots of vehicles that each do 1 job well …. That’s my go to excuse anyway which i’ve found only works untill iget multiples of said vehicles then the excuse of it’s a defender i need a couple of spares for when one breaks. 4wd sprinters are pretty reliable they’ve been doing the g-wagon and unimog for decades .
Very informative and easy going. His bees look cool out too.
I had to chuckle. You made a point that you were going to put the frames into the new box in the same order, which you did, BUT you turned each and everyone one of them around 180 degrees in the process, so that no two faces that used to be facing one another were after the swap.
Yes I realised that 😄 What I mean is keep the frames together the same way. Not put frame 6 in the middle or put a brand new frame with foundation in the middle of the brood etc
Basically keeping the brood together
Hello from Kajun Homestead and Beekeeping , great video
Hello!! 😄 thanks for visiting the channel and commenting. Much appreciated 😊👍🏻👍🏻
Great simple vid to the point well done Gruff 👍
Thanks Colin 😊🤙🏻🤙🏻
Super helpful video as usual, great for giving confidence. It would be really helpful if you gave a date to each one so we know what time of year it is when you are tending your bees. Perhaps it is on there somewhere...
This was filed 17th April.
I think it should be there if you go into the video description?
Excellent. Keep em coming
Thanks 😊
Hi Gruff - nice and straight forward. Have you ever had a double brood nuc, i.e. Payne 6 frame with brood extension on top?
If so, is the transferring into full hive much different? Cheers
Thanks, yes a lot of my nucs are double brood. Process is exactly the same apart from you start on one end of the box and work your way to the other end. Keep top frames together then add the bottom frames into the box
@@gwenyngruffydd WE have a double brood / brood extension on a poly nuc and will most likely overwinter like this. Is there any need to improve the ventilation with a small hole or something?
No, as long as the floor is vented it will be five.
Super vid. And big help, for I'm about to do the same. But when I did a quick inspection yesterday. I'd noticed a few Queen cells. Which I took down. I know I'm literally a week late though. I have just brought them to a new location as in area. Fingers crossed by putting them into their new hive tomorrow now will change the Queens swarming desire?!
It may work……but it’s very hard to knock the swarming desire out of them once their set their mind to it!
Keep a close eye on them
@@gwenyngruffydd thank you, I sure will. May a have a play around. I'll transfer them later today. The weather seems good. Let them build up the new foundation over next coming days. Then if she continues and as you say, their mind is made up. Take her back to her original location in a split, with all fresh foundation bar one. Leaving this national with a ripe QC. Well that's my plan. Probably won't agree with their plan!! Happy Easter to you and your family too
Make sure the split has at least 2-3 frames of brood 😊👍🏻
What do you do with extra nucs you have left over from the previous year do you just keep them on to the following year and if so how do u stop them swarming
There is never any nucs left over really. Percentage to sell/ sold over winter. Percentage for increases and a percentage for replacements.
Any nucs that’s left gets split and turned into more nucs. 😊
@@gwenyngruffydd thanks
Sorry to say Pembrokeshire BKA no longer have auctions …… 😞
That’s a big shame. The Pembrokeshire auction was really good.
How come they don’t do the auction anymore?
What! Lol subtitles for the win.
😂 I know my accent is really strong!
A good video with a nice intro into a few different considerations, with vehicle size and picking up gear from auctions. We're looking to the future and that was helpful... food for thought.
Did you realise when you transfered the frames, they were in the right order, but the seams were turned 180? (Wondering if that was deliberate)
A mistake possibly but it shouldn't make much difference in my view.
@@patdwyer6274 Probably not to the nest of brood, but depending on a warm/cold way, we sometimes find there can be more stores to one side of the frame, and whichever side the sun falls on the hive, that can also change the way ours seem to fill the frames. Also, they'll build comb to the bee space between the seams, so Gruff may have seen something thats not clear in the video.
Hi,
I always keep the frames running the warm way. No reason other than making inspections easier for me.
With nucs you have no option of warm or cold way.
I’m sure you could even transfer the frames in anyway and the bees would still get on with it.
Hope you get a good season enjoying your social media posts 😊👍🏻
@@gwenyngruffydd Thanks, Gruff! Loving your work... practical and always relevant 👍
Much appreciated, thank you 😊
4x4 van? I know a couple that travelled around the world in a Mitsubishi Delica. There's a short and a long wheelbase version and it's basically a people carrier/van/4x4. The seats pop out in the rear to make a decent sized van (maybe double what the L200 holds). It's based on the Shogun chassis so it's basically a Shogun with a van on it. They are all imports though so expect to pay a little more on insurance, but it would get you to every place the L200 will... Pretty much the same car in a different shirt!
That’s a fair shout! I have looked at them. But because their a people carrier it would be hard to fully seal the back up and make it pressure washable.
Such a shame they don’t make a commercial version. It would be brilliant!
@@gwenyngruffydd
Any vehicle can be modified to meet needs for a business. It is possible to ply line the rear and seal the gaps with Sikaflex. Also, it's possible to build a 'wall' between the rear seating area and rear load space with ply and have it removable or sealed. It doesn't cost that much to do if you have tools and a keenness for DIY.
Would a twin rear wheel van with chunky tyres on be any good? I know festival crew that use them for going across fields with gear.
Could also combine 2 vehicles: For example, a Renault RB44 chassis cab with a luton box on the back. They are old yes but you could get to every hive with it. Also, I believe it has a Cummins engine, not a renault so really good.
After that... Unimog! 😁
If I had the money it would be unimog!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 lol
On the modifying option;
Your L200 like most pickups is based on a single chassis and all L200 models are built upon that. Yours is a double/crew cab with a short bed on it, the other option is a single cab with a long bed on it. Another option I have seen is where the bed is removed completely and something else replaces it like a camper or custom made work body. Utility companies tend to have a custom truckman style tool box type thing with roller doors etc on. If you know what you want, I know a guy who used to fabricate staging for Glastonbury festival. He's bang on in a workshop!
Funny enough I’ve thought of that option too! That’s good to now as I may end up going down that road.
Hi I always enjoy your videos however I couldn't help but notice after mentioning the importance of putting the nest into the new brood box the same as it was in the nuc, you managed get them all the wrong way round !! watch the Video again and you'll see. Just saying!! 😂
Hi,
Do you mean that I turned them 90 degree’s from cold way to warm way? That was done on purpose. I prefer warm way for easy inspections.
Or did I totally mix up the frames? This was a mistake if I did do that. 😅
The bees would make it work either way but it’s always best to keep the frames in the same order.
@@gwenyngruffydd hi, if you watch the Video you'll see that you put the frames into the brood box the wrong way round so none of the faces matched the previous orientation, this is not a criticism I thought I'd just mention it. Keep up the good work. 👍
Aaaa I get you 😄 but the frames are still the same but they are turned 180 degrees?
That’s ok. The reason I say put them back in the same way so people don’t pull an end frame full of stores and put it in the middle of the nest.
Great observation on spotting it!! 😄
Why not bring the trailer and unhitch it at the other side of the bridge? You would have had all your kit then. Could have driven back to the trailer and filled the pickup again!
That is an excellent idea and I wish I had though about that at the time!! 🙈
I wouldn’t go double cab you sacrifice half the load space and lose the advantage of a large van.
But I have kids that need picking up from school, and they sometimes come with me on the bees.
@@gwenyngruffydd yep there isn’t one vehicle that does every job..better to have lots of vehicles that each do 1 job well …. That’s my go to excuse anyway which i’ve found only works untill iget multiples of said vehicles then the excuse of it’s a defender i need a couple of spares for when one breaks. 4wd sprinters are pretty reliable they’ve been doing the g-wagon and unimog for decades .