Got a big sister, little sister vibe out of this and it was awesome but even more so because they aren't that as much as they are peers. Love both bands!
I love the dynamic Lauren and Shirley have. You can tell Shirley has been through it all and learned to give the "daytime TV" answer. 7:41 he's basically like "Now it's cool to speak up for women..." It's quiet but Lauren says "Is it?", Shirley laughs off the insensitive question... I'm totally like Lauren but one day I hope to be as mature, wise, and fuckin badass as Shirley Manson
It would be refreshing to have two women musicians on talking about their music, things they like to do, what inspires them, etc…basically the things a male musician would get asked about and talk about. Instead, they’re asked how difficult is it to be a woman and how they deal with misogyny. And you know what that does? It immediately puts them in a vulnerable space where they have to talk about being a victim. It shows them as being “less than”. The guys asking this like to pretend to be allies, but they’re not. Rather than first and foremost seeing them as musicians, they see their gender, which they deem inferior. How do I know this? Because I’m a guy and if I had these two sitting next to me I would be in awe. I’d want to know about their music, how they got to where they are, what it’s like being so talented, what they want to do next - how they’ve accomplished all these things I never have. My first thought would never be “it must be so hard being a fragile woman.” Only a sexist thinks like that. I blame the interviewers but I also blame the interviewees - they can shut down a line of questioning. They can say “why are you asking me about this? I’m doing just fine. How about we talk about the music?” Or they could turn it around and ask, “what’s it like going through life with such a small penis?” Instead, they go along with it and every interview is the same. (I just came from the Aussie interview of Lauren and it was the same damn thing…I could only watch 5 minutes of that as well.) I hope these women and minorities wake up to the bullshit. Those that look at you and see a victim are not your friends. P.S. I’m not saying the interviewer is an awful guy. It’s possible he was told to ask these things. But it’s so tiresome.
That was highly offensive to scottish people. We are sick of being labelled as drunks!!! If she made a joke about blacks or trans it would be considered hate speech and she would be cancelled! So she should be cancelled for this anti scottish bigotry!!
Great to see/hear from two ladies who span decades of good to great music yet still have more to offer us fans. 💯 And Shirley is giving me major hair envy is there a jealousy emoji? Lol
@@johnnypalermo4620 Lauren is a native of Stirling no Glasgow. But, aye, that maybe one of the reasons, the natives of Edinburgh have a different accent to those of Glasgow and its surroundings. Likewise Shirley and also Lauren living in the United States, they has some influence of the American accent.
I've been hearing a lot of things about how all successful songs are written by men even when women perform them but at the end of the day might it not be the case that males are just better songwriters. I mean both these women are singers in bands and are backed up by male songwriters.
Was daydreaming about bands that inspire me, and garbage came up. Then the dea like, who would be the counterpart in the 90s. Rmb thinking, well surely not Courtney Love, nothing personal cause I won't be personal about someone I only know from media... But Gwen Stefani in her own way, taking the cheerleader role to make fun of the obvious sexism. Then thought, who would be the counterpart today? And thought, well ppl would say cause they're both Scottish, but obviously Lauren Mayberry, and thought "not to put words in someone's mouth, but i felt sure she must have grewn up with Garbage as well from our early Millenial group or whatever... So I search for both names and lo and behold, all I thought more or less boiled down in an interview! Fking awesome! (Also I'm ridiculously stoned if it sounds like I'm speaking with myself, so yeah...."
Journalists were telling Shirley she was old at 30?! I literally thought she was in her early 20’s during Garbage’s first two albums for the longest time when she was that age!
Yeah she kinda lost me there. There are so many women in the artistic field and despite a few people who do hold some old outdated views, most people are encouraging and supportive..
JokoCi she's trying so hard to be that typical woke social media sjw bull shit to please the masses and act victimized and oppressed. E: it sucks too cause I really like their music but her brainwashed mentality always puts me off when I hear interviews.
How validation is in touch. Its almost a double negative, yet not. Validity for females, on overall scale, not all about sex appealing, have a different interpretation of performing arts.
And she starts the statement saying when she was growing up. Pay attention. She is making sense. Y'all just cant make the connection with how she introduces her platform of thought. And she said that's what some people say. So what is this noise?? Commentary Rubbish!?*#%
2:20 "the women's narrative has been eradicated...women's contribution to music has always been seen as a lesser contribution than that of our male counterpart" source? Women's narrative/contribution has been eradicated?!?! You are a world famous female fronted band, aren't you?!
She's a primary source so I'd say that's enough. You can always look for others such as the interview with Joan Jett: www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/09/211074/joan-jett-interview-bad-reputation-documentary
Aerron .Baksh She’s only 31. She definitely looks closer to 21, but it’s not uncommon for people at 31 to not show any signs of aging if they take care of their health.
@@Migillis obviously there's great male musicians, that isn't being questioned at all. They're trying to say there's not many females at the top. I'm pointing out I think there is.
Lauren could sing all of his music on deathmetal and would still sound great and with better atmosphere for the lyrics btw I'm not a fan of death metal.
Everyone in that room is 1% of seperation from Butch Vig. and for that they should all be thanking god they were able to get so close to his greatness that is BUTCH VIG!!!
Yo what fucking sound guy did such an awful job here? Lauren is nearly silent in this god damn mix. SXSW rakes in millions but they can't be bothered to hire competent people.
The one question that matters is obviously not adressed: And why are there fewer women in the music industry? Is it maybe because men are more outgoing? Maybe men have inflated egos where women have a lack of confidence? Is it a surprise why nobody ever sais anything, of substance, that physically stops women from persuing becoming an artist, or producer...
@@viniciusjr8670 And you think that makes a lot of sense? Which man do you know who would not like to be surrounded by women? I m guessing you buy into the whole wagegap nonsense too? Which company w ould not hire women only if they had to pay less for their work? Which Harvey Weinstein would not like to have more women to abuse? What you are describing is way more prevelent now than it has ever been, exactly because of the metoo whichhunt crap. Nowerdays people realy dont like to hire women anymore, because, worst case, all they need to do is to make any claim and the company, the management, will be bullied out of business.
JoKoCi Because men mostly listen and care about music. Naturally, they mostly write, produce and perform music. If you go to the class and ask who wanna be an audio engineer or music producer, there will be 3-4 boys out of 50 and 0 girls. It's what Lauren and Shirley will not tell, because their feminist stance will collapse entirely.
If it's feminism elite, than it's very poor elite. Both are frontgirls of male bands, because of their high pitched voices and to attract male audience.
We all need to fill the empty space between our ears with something, why make it garbage? People will good lives still find something to cry about. Horrible.
Pro tip for gaining success as a female (or any gender, for that matter) recording artist: be in a band that sounds more like Garbage, and less like Chvrches.
I hate it when "fenenists" assume anything men do with or say to women is about sex and just assume we are attracted to them. It's nice to see two women making valid points that women shouldn't be less valued and less respected, and should be treated equally
Love your music Lauren but I’m sorry I don’t agree that women are any less encouraged to go into the music industry than men. I’m sure that there may be individuals within the music industry who are misogynist, but I simply can’t believe it is systematic. More women need to choose to play alternative music, if it’s good people will listen. Just look at Marmozets, great band, no one cares that the singer is a woman. I see a lot of smaller bands and there is just fewer women in alternative bands, period. That’s not sexist, that’s women not choosing to be in bands.
The reason there's less female bands is probably because...there's less female bands. The reason some aren't as good?...it's probably because... they're not as good. I mean what you want us to do? This isn't an equality thing, I can apply this to anything, why aren't there more white rappers? Why are there no hamsters on Cesar Milan's dog whisperer? Why aren't there circle shapes in Tetris? You shapist bastards. Please raise awareness for circles.
@some jose On the contrary--it's a realistic way to view the hypocrisy of so-called "feminists" who complain about how "all men" are bad, while choosing to surround themselves with men in their professional lives. Just goes to show that there are plenty of decent men. (And an equal number of decent women. That's medical reality.)
Got a big sister, little sister vibe out of this and it was awesome but even more so because they aren't that as much as they are peers. Love both bands!
Lauren's voice is very ASMR.
Two super cool human beings I love and I love their music as well, fantastic artists both on their own way.
I legit came here for Lauren’s accent
omg same
🏴❤
i first read you legit came from her accent 🤭
Shirley Manson is a legend. I love her work and contribution to rock/alternative music
Lauren is a Goddess.
no shes an interdimensional alien girl :)
This vid just caught me off guard just minutes ago as I am a fan of both bands/groups. This is so damned cool here.
I love the dynamic Lauren and Shirley have. You can tell Shirley has been through it all and learned to give the "daytime TV" answer.
7:41 he's basically like "Now it's cool to speak up for women..." It's quiet but Lauren says "Is it?", Shirley laughs off the insensitive question... I'm totally like Lauren but one day I hope to be as mature, wise, and fuckin badass as Shirley Manson
Lauren sounds so cute in that song recover ☺
god-like song
Looking at these two ladies,
I guess Fountain of Youth is located in Scotland.
GO SHIRLEY ! GO LAUREN ! GO WOMEN ! GO ART
Good interviewer, asked smart questions and listened well. 👌
A Garbage & Chvrches colab would be amazing!
I want this so much.
We Love You Lavren!
I don't think I've ever felt like the same kind of person as someone else as i do when i hear Lauren speak.
"outspoke" for a woman is just saying how things are. Love them both.
Ahhh Lauren!
I would love to see they singing together in song :3
I'm at 7:45 and I could write a thesis about what I've heard so far.
I mean I've been talking to my phone about it so far but you know. Words are hard to type / it's pointless anyway 🤷♂️
I love their accent 🥰😍
They are like mother and daughter but Mom is more Rock
It would be refreshing to have two women musicians on talking about their music, things they like to do, what inspires them, etc…basically the things a male musician would get asked about and talk about.
Instead, they’re asked how difficult is it to be a woman and how they deal with misogyny. And you know what that does? It immediately puts them in a vulnerable space where they have to talk about being a victim. It shows them as being “less than”. The guys asking this like to pretend to be allies, but they’re not. Rather than first and foremost seeing them as musicians, they see their gender, which they deem inferior. How do I know this? Because I’m a guy and if I had these two sitting next to me I would be in awe. I’d want to know about their music, how they got to where they are, what it’s like being so talented, what they want to do next - how they’ve accomplished all these things I never have. My first thought would never be “it must be so hard being a fragile woman.” Only a sexist thinks like that.
I blame the interviewers but I also blame the interviewees - they can shut down a line of questioning. They can say “why are you asking me about this? I’m doing just fine. How about we talk about the music?” Or they could turn it around and ask, “what’s it like going through life with such a small penis?” Instead, they go along with it and every interview is the same. (I just came from the Aussie interview of Lauren and it was the same damn thing…I could only watch 5 minutes of that as well.) I hope these women and minorities wake up to the bullshit. Those that look at you and see a victim are not your friends.
P.S. I’m not saying the interviewer is an awful guy. It’s possible he was told to ask these things. But it’s so tiresome.
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The Scottish stereotype bit at the beginning was absolutely hilarious!
That was highly offensive to scottish people. We are sick of being labelled as drunks!!! If she made a joke about blacks or trans it would be considered hate speech and she would be cancelled! So she should be cancelled for this anti scottish bigotry!!
I agree with them, I think it doesn't matter if you are a woman or a man, if you have a talent for singing no one will stop you.
Sound guy needs to bump up the master volume some. Otherwise, lovely to hear from these ladies.
You take the cutest women on earth, multiple it by 100 and you´d still wouldn´t reach the cuteness of Lauren Mayberry.
Isn’t she a woman🤔
Lauren is so cute i am your big fan❤️❤️❤️
Shes so cute
Lauren is too cute
I love to see women perform.
Thanks Shirley I loved Dream Wife and Deep Vally!!!
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Lauren ❤... Is so intelligent
Great to see/hear from two ladies who span decades of good to great music yet still have more to offer us fans. 💯 And Shirley is giving me major hair envy is there a jealousy emoji? Lol
Did he just say from garbage?
The band is called garbage
I need this host’s stylist now!!!
why are their accents so different?
Mary Mitchelson ...Lauren is from Glasgow and Shirley is from Edinburgh - different tone of accent and dialect 🤔
@@johnnypalermo4620 Lauren is a native of Stirling no Glasgow.
But, aye, that maybe one of the reasons, the natives of Edinburgh have a different accent to those of Glasgow and its surroundings.
Likewise Shirley and also Lauren living in the United States, they has some influence of the American accent.
Different from what exactly?Are you assuming they should sound exactly the same?
Mary Mitchelson What an incredibly stupid question
@@johnnypalermo4620 Lauren is from Stirling.
Art is ageless
I can't take my eyes from Lauren
bringing back bangs
Wow I'm going on music talk....rock woman plus band power.....moment in time thx tube
I've been hearing a lot of things about how all successful songs are written by men even when women perform them but at the end of the day might it not be the case that males are just better songwriters. I mean both these women are singers in bands and are backed up by male songwriters.
Lauren’s accent is not nearly as thick as Shirley’s
They're from different cities with completely different dialect/sociolects.
Was daydreaming about bands that inspire me, and garbage came up. Then the dea like, who would be the counterpart in the 90s. Rmb thinking, well surely not Courtney Love, nothing personal cause I won't be personal about someone I only know from media... But Gwen Stefani in her own way, taking the cheerleader role to make fun of the obvious sexism. Then thought, who would be the counterpart today? And thought, well ppl would say cause they're both Scottish, but obviously Lauren Mayberry, and thought "not to put words in someone's mouth, but i felt sure she must have grewn up with Garbage as well from our early Millenial group or whatever... So I search for both names and lo and behold, all I thought more or less boiled down in an interview! Fking awesome! (Also I'm ridiculously stoned if it sounds like I'm speaking with myself, so yeah...."
Journalists were telling Shirley she was old at 30?! I literally thought she was in her early 20’s during Garbage’s first two albums for the longest time when she was that age!
🎉 with ⛪. 😎
"Women are not told that it is valid to be an artist"
What the hell are you talking about, Lauren.
Yeah she kinda lost me there. There are so many women in the artistic field and despite a few people who do hold some old outdated views, most people are encouraging and supportive..
Lauren is SJW. Explains it all, doesn't it?
JokoCi she's trying so hard to be that typical woke social media sjw bull shit to please the masses and act victimized and oppressed. E: it sucks too cause I really like their music but her brainwashed mentality always puts me off when I hear interviews.
How validation is in touch. Its almost a double negative, yet not.
Validity for females, on overall scale, not all about sex appealing, have a different interpretation of performing arts.
And she starts the statement saying when she was growing up.
Pay attention. She is making sense.
Y'all just cant make the connection with how she introduces her platform of thought. And she said that's what some people say. So what is this noise??
Commentary Rubbish!?*#%
Lovely
Hermosa Lauren Mayberry 😍😍
2:20 "the women's narrative has been eradicated...women's contribution to music has always been seen as a lesser contribution than that of our male counterpart" source? Women's narrative/contribution has been eradicated?!?! You are a world famous female fronted band, aren't you?!
She's a primary source so I'd say that's enough. You can always look for others such as the interview with Joan Jett: www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/09/211074/joan-jett-interview-bad-reputation-documentary
Yeah, I think that statement is garbage. (No pun intended.) Debby Harry and the B-52's are as revered as anyone in rock music.
😍
Shes so cute
- Lauren - is a beuatiful Women! ❤
Is anyone realising she looks like finn wolfhard when they younger age
Lauren mayberry Is pretty
Lauren Mayberry don't aging
Aerron .Baksh She’s only 31. She definitely looks closer to 21, but it’s not uncommon for people at 31 to not show any signs of aging if they take care of their health.
@@donbeck8835 yeah absolutely our diet is vital
Both Scottish but Shirley has a stronger accent than Lauren
Shirley's shoulders are covered while Lauren's are not
Was Shirley cold or was Lauren hot on that day?
Some of the best musicians of all time have been women, Eurythmics, Tina Turner, Cher, Fleetwood Mac, etc
Yes, and men too, isn't that crazy?
@@Migillis obviously there's great male musicians, that isn't being questioned at all. They're trying to say there's not many females at the top. I'm pointing out I think there is.
I was waiting for one of them to just yell out..FREEDOM! BRAVEHEART
Lauren could sing all of his music on deathmetal and would still sound great and with better atmosphere for the lyrics btw I'm not a fan of death metal.
Scotland produce the best singers
Shes so cute
Everyone in that room is 1% of seperation from Butch Vig. and for that they should all be thanking god they were able to get so close to his greatness that is BUTCH VIG!!!
Yo what fucking sound guy did such an awful job here? Lauren is nearly silent in this god damn mix. SXSW rakes in millions but they can't be bothered to hire competent people.
Subtitles please. Thank you.
Get used to different accents please. Thank you.
You don’t give record deals or tour deals based on the sex and skin color of the artist. That’s ridiculous! How about just seeking out talent?
The one question that matters is obviously not adressed:
And why are there fewer women in the music industry?
Is it maybe because men are more outgoing? Maybe men have inflated egos where women have a lack of confidence?
Is it a surprise why nobody ever sais anything, of substance, that physically stops women from persuing becoming an artist, or producer...
That is not necessarily the reason, sometimes is because the people in high places are men and they discriminate women and don't hire them
@@viniciusjr8670 And you think that makes a lot of sense?
Which man do you know who would not like to be surrounded by women? I m guessing you buy into the whole wagegap nonsense too? Which company w ould not hire women only if they had to pay less for their work? Which Harvey Weinstein would not like to have more women to abuse?
What you are describing is way more prevelent now than it has ever been, exactly because of the metoo whichhunt crap. Nowerdays people realy dont like to hire women anymore, because, worst case, all they need to do is to make any claim and the company, the management, will be bullied out of business.
Not that they're deliberately NOT focusing on music but other things take their attention because it's hard to do music, things like school.
JoKoCi Because men mostly listen and care about music. Naturally, they mostly write, produce and perform music. If you go to the class and ask who wanna be an audio engineer or music producer, there will be 3-4 boys out of 50 and 0 girls. It's what Lauren and Shirley will not tell, because their feminist stance will collapse entirely.
@@alicaramba7680 You clearly know very little about women in music. Shut your misogynist trap!
feminism elite going on right there!
If it's feminism elite, than it's very poor elite. Both are frontgirls of male bands, because of their high pitched voices and to attract male audience.
i agree aside of being great performers they r terrible human beings@@alicaramba7680
@@burnedoils Shut up, you muppet!
This video is 86% Shirley Manson and the scraps, Lauren. Shame.
We all need to fill the empty space between our ears with something, why make it garbage? People will good lives still find something to cry about. Horrible.
Shirley Manson looks like a rooster here.
Pro tip for gaining success as a female (or any gender, for that matter) recording artist: be in a band that sounds more like Garbage, and less like Chvrches.
I hate it when "fenenists" assume anything men do with or say to women is about sex and just assume we are attracted to them. It's nice to see two women making valid points that women shouldn't be less valued and less respected, and should be treated equally
Lauren seems eternally angry
Which is weird cause her music is overwhelmingly happy
Love your music Lauren but I’m sorry I don’t agree that women are any less encouraged to go into the music industry than men. I’m sure that there may be individuals within the music industry who are misogynist, but I simply can’t believe it is systematic. More women need to choose to play alternative music, if it’s good people will listen. Just look at Marmozets, great band, no one cares that the singer is a woman. I see a lot of smaller bands and there is just fewer women in alternative bands, period. That’s not sexist, that’s women not choosing to be in bands.
Neither of these women know what they're talking about, unfortunately.
Lauren Mayberry, is muy wife.. Oh yea...
The reason there's less female bands is probably because...there's less female bands. The reason some aren't as good?...it's probably because... they're not as good. I mean what you want us to do? This isn't an equality thing, I can apply this to anything, why aren't there more white rappers? Why are there no hamsters on Cesar Milan's dog whisperer? Why aren't there circle shapes in Tetris? You shapist bastards. Please raise awareness for circles.
Thanks for the tautologies.
Shirley doesn't have quite the intellectual heft that Laren has.
And yet she has more talent in one fingernail.
The redhead tries to steal the show. A bit of veiled condescension in there and not at smart as Laure.
A bit annoying actualy.
Yuck feminism! Good bands though, but yuck!
It is kinda ironic that the bandmates of both Shirley and Lauren are all men.
@some jose On the contrary--it's a realistic way to view the hypocrisy of so-called "feminists" who complain about how "all men" are bad, while choosing to surround themselves with men in their professional lives.
Just goes to show that there are plenty of decent men. (And an equal number of decent women. That's medical reality.)
IDGAF about feminism. "It's a man's world" --James Brown
You know he was being sarcastic with that song, right?
@@Uhohlisa I wouldn't call it sarcasm, more like a commonly agreed upon opinion amongst most men.