PAYDAY MONSANTO man i know this comnent is old, but aftet reading it i just gotta respond. Im a ' know it all" for saying the earth is round. Do you really, actually for real real, think its flat? Really? Are you just fucking with me? All basic and advanced principles in physics hinge on the world being round. Gravity, do you think thats make believe? Do you think all the pilots and sea farers across the century have been lying to protect some nonsensical lie that doesnt even concievably serve a purpose? Why would people lie in mass about such a trivial thing, what agenda could it possibly serve? Do you profess your crazy brliefs publicly or only on the internet with a secret alias? Do you know what an altimeter is? Theory of relativity. How many people do you suppose are in on this secret? It would literally have to be billions. Come on man be reasonable, or start taking your psyche meds again your sense of reason has gone haywire, its 2015 im fucking astounded that this is even a thing
PAYDAY MONSANTO my ' equivocating rhetoric' is my response to you calling me mr know it all for trying to enlighten you on a scientific consenus reached hundreds of years ago. And no thousands and thousands upon thousands of independent historians didnt cook the books. This is one of the beliefs that epitomized the dark ages, do you also believe in trial by ordeal? This is on par with a flat earth, its refucking tarted, i was actually showing u some respect by listing reasons on why your backwards 'challenge the status quo at any cost' was incorrect? Instead of just calling you retarted. Theres daily flights from america to Europe. There s daily flights from eurppe to asia, theres daily flights from asia to america. We circle the globe every single day, you really dont think somebody, just one fucking person would be like 'hey thats just a wall of ice....huh....' you cant actually be this stupid. I guess you msy just be a troll in which case you got me, in which case maybe try dating or bowling or drugs or something. Get a life
"it would be accelerating upwards at 9.8 meters per second" - Daniel Shenton Well Daniel, you failed at basic high school physics. Acceleration has units of meters per second SQUARED. If you don't understand acceleration, please don't embarrass yourself talking about gravity.
Ok so if the earth is moving upward at 9.8 m per second and the earth catches up to a "falling object" instead of pulling the object back to earth via gravitational pull then a. Please explain how parachutes work and b. Please explain how satelutes orbit the earth. I have a hundred more questions I could add but I feel that would be useless to post them.
I wonder how flat earth theorists explain why we see the moon and the constellations upside down on the southern hemisphere? and why is the latitude of the North Star change from the equator to the north pole as you go up?
Theres been a time lapse video of the space station where point the camera at earth and go all the way around. Speakin of which u can see the space station with a telescope
10 m.s^2*365(days)*24(hours)*60(minutes)*60(seconds)=315 360 000 m.s or 1/10 the speed of light in a year... if the earth is more than 10 years old, then it's traveling faster than light... oups :p
The earth is not a round disk. It's a flat plane that stretches out to infinity. It's thickness goes down to infinity. There are infinite numbers of suns in uniform intervals that pass over the earth, thus explains the passing days. Same with the infinite number of moons. The stars are little higher and are actually lights or very miniature suns much smaller than the larger suns that pass over us. The clouds are never moving over us as it's an illusion. The earth moves horizontally. Thus wind.
If the earth was flat wouldn't it be possible to see from one side to the other with a telescope? if you try that you would notice the horizon curve? proving its not flat.
No, I saw a video where a flat earther 'explains' that the horizon effect is the result of light bending DRASTICALLY which explains why we can't see objects like ships on the ocean at great distances. So wrong, that theory alone since lights needs massive amounts of gravity to effect its trajectory, but ok for the sake of argument I'll let them have it. What is more amazing is how he couldn't explain why the whole ship didn't just appear as a whole suddenly and why we can track the appearance of the ship in stages i.e. the mast, the sails the deck etc... Another flat earther surmised that because the earth spins faster than the speed of sound that we should be able to hear the sonic boom at all times. Does this idiot know what actually causes the sonic boom in the first place??? They must be having us all on...
There is a website for it, I can't even process the idea that people are actually this stupid though. Maybe if someone has no internet and lives in some crappy desert.
Jordan Ede Just like how stupid are you, piece of scumbag believing of what the NASA want you to believe. no more. you don't even read anything about this field and yet here you are calling people names.
HeilJesusChrist the earth is round get over it plus look up ISS they have live feeds of them orbiting the earth and there's no wall of ice the earth is round get over it
Also wouldnt earths atmosphere leak off the edges like a waterfall? I mean you cant just assume that all the air is accelerating upwards as well and the ice wall wouldnt be high enough
+LemerKin Games Guys - according to "Modern Science" The earth is Spinning Eastward at 1000Kph.....THATS the crazy notion!! . They cover the concept up by introducing a "Serious Occultist & Grand Master Freemasons - Newtons bullshit concept of "Gravity ".. The BIG G - being able to hold magically water to a spinning disc perfectly flat ( EVERYTIME) By using the concept of "Gravity" in an unending essay of advanced "Mathematics & Algebra - Ratios & Calculus"....THATS the crazy bit......FFS....."Kansas is actually Home Dorothy" No its not ... its as flat as a pancake, to a degree of 0.99997...just like the Earth beneath your feet of a 6000km radius.. "wheres the curvature....where...where".....(You'll find that youtube Video amusing Im sure) Polaris ( North Star ) always in the same place every night - observable over Millenium......EVery Night - same place - same time........Water finds true flat every time....The Coreolis Effect"....highly talked about, fully loaded with calculus.....but in reality, for example at Airport Landings during Ascents & Decents...No compensation for the Earths rotation is EVER taken into account.. EVER. GPS - yeah all those Satellites in Space - Well google MUST be full of pictures, seeing as our Planet is surrounded by 16000 Satellites & counting - go have a peek at one, they are lovely. www.google.pl/search?q=satellites+in+space&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio6pbcqe3LAhUKwHIKHZt6BCsQ_AUIBygB&biw=1680&bih=921 " Its ALL Bullshit Dorothy - Back To Kansas" www.usu.edu/geo/geomorph/kansas.html
But please beware of FLAT EARTH SOCIETY. . It is a controlled opposition group whose main purpose is to mislead people about the truth of FLAT EARTH.... these people are mixing truth with lies...just to muddy the waters
Ali Abbas no real science - all the numbers you like, all you have to be able to do is spot a CGI Picture Vs a True Original unaltered Photo. Nasa's been trying for 50 yrs & still cant manage it.
And it always will be, until Gravity comes along, takes a look at Earth, and says to itself, "Hey I missed that one out, I should have turned Earth into a sphere like everything else, it's the law."
35,000 feet, but you need a fairly wide field of view (ie 60 degrees) and a virtually cloud-free horizon. The reality is that clouds, hills and mountains mean we rarely get to see the kind of perfectly flat horizon where the curve would be most obvious. However, you can detect the curve of the Earth from ground level at the coast with a pair of binoculars - just look for distant ships on the horizon and you’ll see that their hulls start to disappear before their masts and other superstructure. Ancient Greek scientists, who spotted this without any optical aids, used this to conclude that the Earth was round. Ignore this idiot.. It always will be. Chris you post the most stupid comments I have ever read
If the flat earth society really believe the earth is flat prove it, go hire a plane or something go to the edge of the earth and prove it. If the earth was really flat it would not be hard to prove.
Or go to the edge of the universe, you ballers have the same problem with the "edge". Our flat plaine could be infinie, we dont know. (relplace the DOT) youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=k0xClWgidZU&t=1s
Time Zones don't need to be explained; they were superimposed by human beings, who also devised hours and minutes and who also invented clocks and watches as a means of measuring these. I heard that the European Union wish to switch to a metric system and transfer GMT to Brussels, regardless of what the rest of the world thinks about it. If they get away with this I would expect Switzerland to join the EU.
and how about the water wouldn't the currents lead it to eventually float off into space? and don't try that ice berg theory there's such thing as erosion and global warming.
+Trina Ana Don't expect an intelligent answer to that question. I would bet money that any (literal) flat earther would claim it's Hell that makes volcanoes erupt. Yes they are that stupid.
That's proposterous. Gravity is because the Earth has a molten core that creates a giant magnet. You dont fall off because if a 500 million ton moon (idk how much it weighs) is attracted to Earth then how do you think a 150 lb person will fall off the side?
you know, i never tried that. flew straight from A back to A. i really want to try it, will i go back or meet a different ending. it bothers my curiosity.
10. round planets prove earth is a planet the same as a bowl of jelly proves im jelly 9. they are the same, you are confused 8. they are divided by the heat from the sun 7. if you use a compass as your guider, it works out the same 6. the surface has nothing to do with the angle of the sun
my point is, you think if the horizon is curved, water has to fall off the horizon's curve. that is in no way true, and never will be. the horizon is curved, but since gravity pulls towards the center of the earth, the water does not fall off the sides. the earth is a spheroid. (assuming you think the earth is flat).
at 0:31 he tells that gravity is an illusion because the "disc" accelerates upwards at 9.8 meters per second, now, all those flar earth theories are somehow related to the bible, so i did the math with how old the earth is according to the bible, and if for the last 5000 years earth was accelerating at 9.8 m/s by now it would be going at 5000 times the speed of light
Earthquakes are caused by tectonic movement. The way quakes work is tectonic plates are constantly moving towards eachother building up pressure. eventually they will have to release that pressure, and that is done by one plate moving up and the other moving down, causing the ground to shake. this can be demonstrated by pushing your hands together. so with that in mind, make sure you know how gravity works before arguing. there's no need to tell me to get real, as the earth is indeed a spheroid.
So if the earth is accelerating, how fast do you think we are going by now, just want to hear your point of view, if we are accelerating at a rate of 9.81mps, we must be going really really fast.
Yes, quite right. And if you let the elevator accelerate DOWNWARDS at a speed of 9.81 meters per second, you will experience weightlessness. And this is really a good proof that the earth as a whole is accelerating UPWARDS with speed 9.81 meters per second.
Think of this: While falling, every second your speed relative to the ground goes up by 9.8 meters a second. If the earth was moving up to simulate that it would have to be moving 9.8 meters faster every second.
What would make a flat disk accelerate through space in a manner the speaker references? That whole 9.8m per second squared thing sort of relies on a center of mass being at the middle of a sphere. And even on the sphere the 9.8m^2 number varies a little as a function of latitude, altitude and local geologic variations. Those variations would be far greater on a flat disk.
I honestly thought this was a joke. I know no one can actually believe it's a flat, round circle with NASA agents guarding the 2 mile high ice wall. Damn, I knew this was a bad time to give up smoking pot and tripping on acid.
This is because there are an infinite number of suns that move across the earth at regular intervals of 24 hours. So it's never the same sun that we see even though they look very similar.
you can't simulate gravity by having the disc move up. By doing so you're implying that there are particles in space that can add pressure to the ground, which there is not
It's strange to think that all the myriad of stars in the night sky are actually suns. It's even stranger to think that all the suns, planets and moons are automatically forced into being roughly spherical. Forget the Chaos Theory: uniformity is the name of the game - or so we're told.
why doesn't the air flow off the sides of the earth if its flat the air is pulled down (accelerated relative too the earth that is accelerated upwards) and it would be flowing of the side what is preventing the air then?
indeed true, but if it's that far away, we'd be living underground with massive power stations to power lights and heat facilities, because the sun would be so far away that the the light wouldn't have reached us yet so the surface would have no light or heat. we'd also live off of salt (NaCl), worms, and processed minerals. we'd need to heat up water to drink it, and we'd need to depressurize the subterranean air to the proper PSI to avoid getting smashed by the sheer pressure.
The same question surely applies also to a spherical Earth, if you substitute "surface" for "sides". It does appear that Earth moves along with its atmosphere, but Earth may not actually be moving at all. Even Round Earthers may suspect something of the sort. For example, if I'm driving along at 60mph and I'm overtaken by a car doing 70mph, they see the other car as doing only 10mph. I don't think they are right.
1) how come nobody has yet "bumped" into these huge ice walls that he claims runs the perimeter of the "disk"? 2) the shortest flight distance from australia to brazil is approx. 9700 miles...but according to this theory, that wouldn't be possible seeing as the 2 countries are on opposite ends of the "disk".
name one single financial motive that someone could have in saying that the world is a globe rather than a disk. The Earth is not flat, there are many experiments and observations that you can make yourself to confirm this.
Hersoftestsoul 1 second ago The fact that the Earth is spherical has been known since ancient Greek times (Eratosthenes calculated its circumference around 200 B.C.E.), but that knowledge was largely lost in the Middle Ages (until the Crusades). I don't think the Bible says anything about the matter except mentioning "the four corners of the Earth" in passing.
ok..what about earth quakes in a non flat earth the big ones would be measurable all over the earth but as we measure it at the exact opposite you can measure P waves, but from 140° to about 104° you can measure none and 104° to 0° (all this supposing a round earth so 0° where you are and 180° on the opposite) you measure both P and S waves all this fits the round earth and it's inner structure. (s waves cannot propagate through liquid) how do you explain this phenomenon with a round earth?
But gravity only exists in any measurable amount in large, spherical objects (they're spherical because of the gravity). Besides, if the earth was flat, the light would not bend around like that. Nor would it appear so curved from our close proximity
(cont) ... Is not strong enough to cause anything to fling off the planet with the gravitational force which is generated. Gravity at the center of the earth is absent. Due to the fact that gravity pulls toward the center, and for the sake of the example, you are at the center, there is no longer an effect generated. The reason you always feel upright is because gravity is pulling virtually equal everywhere on the surface, with some very, very slight variation. (out of characters again)
Not so. You have forgotten to take into account two things: 1) The length of time taken for the journey you describe, and 2) The counterclockwise spin of the Earth during that time.
with rough calculations I did while sleeping I calculated a human of 2meters height could see on the sphere as far as 3200 km in case the earth... so a human is just like the lenght of one millionth of the supposed circumference of the earth 24000 km. and a man can see on a sphere of smooth surface directly to 3200 km around him, so from perspective the surface could look somewhat flat. the curvature of meters per thousands of kilometers would be hardly viewed.
Because they haven't yet thought up a reason that would sound plausible and doused in conspiracy enough that every argument could be discredited with "THEY are covering it up!"
I don't remember saying anything about covering anything up. If you mean by 'covering up' that there's some sort of conspiracy, I'm not one of those people who always seem to think there's some sort of faking or conspiracy going on.
The Earth's horizon may well be curved, but not in the way you think. If you have ever thrown a discus, you will know that a relatively flat object can have some curvature on its surface.
Gravity isn't just a force pushing us down, but also a force attracting to very large masses. So then since every mass in the universe is attracted to every other mass in the universe, the land mass that is the earth will be forced into a sphere, as there is equal tension on all sides.
There is no air that supports the wings of the aircraft when flown over the edge so it will disappear anytime without leaving any trace behind, and that is why it is never reported anything.
You are absolutely right. The camera never lies. The illusion that the earth is round is because we have TWO eyes. The brain misinterprets because reality so that it becomes three dimensional when in fact only two dimensions. You just close one of your eyes and with your one eye you will see things as they really are.
On a spherical Earth, this is true. But on a flat Earth, it wouldn't be. Assuming the atmosphere doesn't somehow leave Earth entirely, the atmosphere would be completely perpendicular to whatever force is preventing it from leaving Earth, and if you believe in a flat Earth, that force is uniform. Hence, the atmosphere would have no curvature, and hence, neither would the horizon. This obviously contradicts the reality that we see, so it follows that the Earth isn't flat after all.
PS. When I was in school my favourite teacher of all time stood straight in one direction and said "If I keep walking and eventually get back here, why?". I was the only kid there to answer. I felt smart. And that's school. Regurgitate what "lol everybody knows" so we can go on to contribute to making smarter bombs, GMO foods, and better advertising mediums. The assumption is we're all one of a kind whom I can trust. You're not my brother. You need to prove yourself to me like everybody else.
Yes, we know that the Earth is round, the bullshit about accelaration (to simulate gravity) doesn't make a sense, because Earth would reach a speed of light in a matter of a year. But I don't think that the guy is trolling, he doesn't sound like a troll
You may be interested in these three videos: The ISON Challenge to "Alternative Science" Proponents Geocentrists' Videos of Jupiter's Moons Kepler and Newton vs. The Vortex, Geocentric, and Flat Earth Theories
I was on a U2 once. It was a journalism assignment when I was in college. We went up so high, I dont know the exact number. But we got high enough to see the actual curvature of the earth. I dont really see how the earth could be flat when it is obviously round
A bubble is round because it starts off round. As to my 'points of the compass' question, gravitationists steer well clear of it because it leaves them totally exposed. They have no explanation.
We are being pulled towards the earth's center. Wherever you stand on earth, it is pulling down on you from inside the earth. There is no universal "down" direction, it depends on where you're standing on the earth that determines which direction is down. Imagine a spherical magnet. If you put something magnetic next to it, no matter where you put it on the surface, it will be attracted to it.
It not an absurd impossibility when you realise there is no down in a vacuum.Gravity pulls ,they are both stood the right way up to the pull of the gravity at the earths core.
For shits and giggles I did some calculating. I took the standard 6000 years for the creation story, and extrapolated it out to 1.89216x10^11 seconds. I then multiplied by 9.80 m/s^2 for the 'gravity' acceleration, and got 1.8543168x10^12 m/s for what we should be going at today. I then divided by the speed of light, 3x10^8 m/s (approximately) I got 6181 times the speed of light as our current speed from stationary at creation. Good job, guys. You broke physics.
There is probably a very complex picture of the financial motives behind this. To point out one of these causes would not be able to describe it all. So the only thing is to try to put together all these reasons to get a complete picture.
they don't think planets orbit the sun. They think there are multiple suns moving over the flat surface of planets. The only reason we feel what we think is gravity is because Earth is constantly moving up. (ikr?) Why we don't eventually move out of the solar system or the Milky Way idk.
So if Earth accelerates at a constant speed upward. Then that means that all objects dropped at the same level would hit the ground at the same time. Now take a feather and a rock, drop it at the same level.
The presumption appears to be that everything out there in space, including Earth, is roughly spherical. They don't know that, of course, but they find it a convenient starting-point upon which to base all their other 'scientific' assumptions.
gravity is acceleration? shouldn't we have reached light speed by now? What force is acting on earth to make it accelerate? One cannot simply make a space station orbit a plate as if it was a sphere.
How could anyone think the Earth is Flat when Space craft and satellites take pictures of it. Aircraft fly around it. If it were flat then Ships and cars would fall off of it. Lets see you give me an intelligent answer to my question.
The most obvious problem I see with this theory: how can people travel by ship or aircraft from Australia to South America that fast? You couldn't cross the South Pole, since it was a wall around the earth only... Any suggestions? ;-)
Frank Nitsch This is pure nonsense... judt happened to have music playing when I viewed it, which kinda worked. I has followed a link from a discussion on a new film that actually does attempt to seriously claim a geocentric universe. There was an excellent and entertaining series of videos explaining the many ways that couldn't possible work... it's bollocks, as it said. So I went looking for even more crazy, but the flat earthers don't even make the attempt.
*****, how can you be so sure? ;-) Well, I'm with you my friend. I'm just trying to understand, how these guys may deal with the obvious issues of their theory. But I'm sure they have answers for all of these questions. I also watched another movie about them on YT. It's really crazy, how they present their topic and how little criticism there is among their group. I meant, they are merely supporting all the "facts" presented in meetings instead of having a serious discussion. Not agreeing to all that probably means that you are no longer an accepted member of the group. And maybe some of them are part of the group to be part of a group only...
Just Google "flat earth map." The flat earthers will say that nobody has ever ventured far enough into Antarctica (how far this is, I do not know) to find the ice wall. Somewhere behind the ice wall is the edge.
don't do drugs kids. you will turn out like this guy.
No it's reality
That is the purpose of the FES controlled opposition. They give stupid non science information to turn people away from real FE science.
ah the internet, spreading darkness at the speed of light
PAYDAY MONSANTO man i know this comnent is old, but aftet reading it i just gotta respond. Im a ' know it all" for saying the earth is round. Do you really, actually for real real, think its flat? Really? Are you just fucking with me? All basic and advanced principles in physics hinge on the world being round. Gravity, do you think thats make believe? Do you think all the pilots and sea farers across the century have been lying to protect some nonsensical lie that doesnt even concievably serve a purpose? Why would people lie in mass about such a trivial thing, what agenda could it possibly serve? Do you profess your crazy brliefs publicly or only on the internet with a secret alias? Do you know what an altimeter is? Theory of relativity. How many people do you suppose are in on this secret? It would literally have to be billions. Come on man be reasonable, or start taking your psyche meds again your sense of reason has gone haywire, its 2015 im fucking astounded that this is even a thing
PAYDAY MONSANTO my ' equivocating rhetoric' is my response to you calling me mr know it all for trying to enlighten you on a scientific consenus reached hundreds of years ago. And no thousands and thousands upon thousands of independent historians didnt cook the books. This is one of the beliefs that epitomized the dark ages, do you also believe in trial by ordeal? This is on par with a flat earth, its refucking tarted, i was actually showing u some respect by listing reasons on why your backwards 'challenge the status quo at any cost' was incorrect? Instead of just calling you retarted. Theres daily flights from america to Europe. There s daily flights from eurppe to asia, theres daily flights from asia to america. We circle the globe every single day, you really dont think somebody, just one fucking person would be like 'hey thats just a wall of ice....huh....' you cant actually be this stupid. I guess you msy just be a troll in which case you got me, in which case maybe try dating or bowling or drugs or something. Get a life
+pawl mattie Not at all. Shedding new light painstakingly, blink after blink.
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"it would be accelerating upwards at 9.8 meters per second" - Daniel Shenton
Well Daniel, you failed at basic high school physics. Acceleration has units of meters per second SQUARED. If you don't understand acceleration, please don't embarrass yourself talking about gravity.
"What about the other planets, the sun... moon"
"Erm... I'm not sure about them..."
THATS ENOUGH INTERNET FOR TODAY
Don't get flat earth info from anyone on this discussion.
My brain hurts. Did he seriously say at the end that someone could fall off of the earth? Insanity ad infintum.
That is impossible because of the Antarctic ice wall. The Night's Watch has you covered.
Ok so if the earth is moving upward at 9.8 m per second and the earth catches up to a "falling object" instead of pulling the object back to earth via gravitational pull then a. Please explain how parachutes work and b. Please explain how satelutes orbit the earth. I have a hundred more questions I could add but I feel that would be useless to post them.
I wonder how flat earth theorists explain why we see the moon and the constellations upside down on the southern hemisphere?
and why is the latitude of the North Star change from the equator to the north pole as you go up?
I hope you like it becauce it was me who upload it......:-)
I can't believe people like this still exist. WOW!
+Jason C. Yeah its sad realty earthly world full with insanity nut people.
***** That's an appeal to ignorance fallacy.
Theres been a time lapse video of the space station where point the camera at earth and go all the way around. Speakin of which u can see the space station with a telescope
+Rafal Bukowski When are the flatties going to flatline?
+Rafal Bukowski Yeah, but some military have flat top cut too. LOL
10 m.s^2*365(days)*24(hours)*60(minutes)*60(seconds)=315 360 000 m.s
or 1/10 the speed of light in a year...
if the earth is more than 10 years old, then it's traveling faster than light... oups :p
9.27158E+17 m/s if it;s been going on for 3 billion years.
I'm beginning to suspect people are increasingly stupid.
The earth is not a round disk. It's a flat plane that stretches out to infinity. It's thickness goes down to infinity. There are infinite numbers of suns in uniform intervals that pass over the earth, thus explains the passing days. Same with the infinite number of moons. The stars are little higher and are actually lights or very miniature suns much smaller than the larger suns that pass over us. The clouds are never moving over us as it's an illusion. The earth moves horizontally. Thus wind.
Just found out you can become an honorary member of the Flat Earth Society for 12 dollars. This would make a great prank gift. XD
I just hope someone takes this man to space and video tapes his entire reaction when he realizes that the earth is in fact a sphere
I'm a flat-earther, as a reply to the creationists. It's a parody, and I'm surprised that people take it seriously.
much like the Landover Baptist Church?
there are people who take it seriously like for reals!
It's actually satire. : O Shocking, right?
Freddy Lubin Which one of you said that? Or are you both in it together?
How does the flat earth society explain seasons, and that they are different in different parts of the world?
Did this guy never see a satellite move across the sky?
From 250 mi away? probably not
If the earth was flat wouldn't it be possible to see from one side to the other with a telescope? if you try that you would notice the horizon curve? proving its not flat.
No, I saw a video where a flat earther 'explains' that the horizon effect is the result of light bending DRASTICALLY which explains why we can't see objects like ships on the ocean at great distances. So wrong, that theory alone since lights needs massive amounts of gravity to effect its trajectory, but ok for the sake of argument I'll let them have it. What is more amazing is how he couldn't explain why the whole ship didn't just appear as a whole suddenly and why we can track the appearance of the ship in stages i.e. the mast, the sails the deck etc... Another flat earther surmised that because the earth spins faster than the speed of sound that we should be able to hear the sonic boom at all times. Does this idiot know what actually causes the sonic boom in the first place??? They must be having us all on...
Is this a joke, or are people actually stupid enough to believe the Earth is flat?
There is a website for it, I can't even process the idea that people are actually this stupid though.
Maybe if someone has no internet and lives in some crappy desert.
***** So where's the website for Round Earth videos?
Chris Wilson www.google.be/intl/nl/earth/ here
Jordan Ede Just like how stupid are you, piece of scumbag believing of what the NASA want you to believe. no more. you don't even read anything about this field and yet here you are calling people names.
HeilJesusChrist the earth is round get over it plus look up ISS they have live feeds of them orbiting the earth and there's no wall of ice the earth is round get over it
So when flying from Lima to Sydney, you go across North America? :-)
if earth is moving upwards at such a crazy speed... then all the helicoptors wil crash
YES
Also wouldnt earths atmosphere leak off the edges like a waterfall? I mean you cant just assume that all the air is accelerating upwards as well and the ice wall wouldnt be high enough
+LemerKin Games Guys - according to "Modern Science" The earth is Spinning Eastward at 1000Kph.....THATS the crazy notion!! . They cover the concept up by introducing a "Serious Occultist & Grand Master Freemasons - Newtons bullshit concept of "Gravity "..
The BIG G - being able to hold magically water to a spinning disc perfectly flat ( EVERYTIME) By using the concept of "Gravity" in an unending essay of advanced "Mathematics & Algebra - Ratios & Calculus"....THATS the crazy bit......FFS....."Kansas is actually Home Dorothy" No its not ... its as flat as a pancake, to a degree of 0.99997...just like the Earth beneath your feet of a 6000km radius..
"wheres the curvature....where...where".....(You'll find that youtube Video amusing Im sure)
Polaris ( North Star ) always in the same place every night - observable over Millenium......EVery Night - same place - same time........Water finds true flat every time....The Coreolis Effect"....highly talked about, fully loaded with calculus.....but in reality, for example at Airport Landings during Ascents & Decents...No compensation for the Earths rotation is EVER taken into account.. EVER.
GPS - yeah all those Satellites in Space - Well google MUST be full of pictures, seeing as our Planet is surrounded by 16000 Satellites & counting - go have a peek at one, they are lovely.
www.google.pl/search?q=satellites+in+space&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio6pbcqe3LAhUKwHIKHZt6BCsQ_AUIBygB&biw=1680&bih=921
" Its ALL Bullshit Dorothy - Back To Kansas" www.usu.edu/geo/geomorph/kansas.html
But please beware of FLAT EARTH SOCIETY. . It is a controlled opposition group whose main purpose is to mislead people about the truth of FLAT EARTH.... these people are mixing truth with lies...just to muddy the waters
Ali Abbas no real science - all the numbers you like, all you have to be able to do is spot a CGI Picture Vs a True Original unaltered Photo. Nasa's been trying for 50 yrs & still cant manage it.
im confused at what height do you have to be to see the curve of the earth? ive skydived from 10,000 feet many times and the veiw is the same flat
And it always will be, until Gravity comes along, takes a look at Earth, and says to itself, "Hey I missed that one out, I should have turned Earth into a sphere like everything else, it's the law."
35,000 feet, but you need a fairly wide field of view (ie 60 degrees) and a virtually cloud-free horizon. The reality is that clouds, hills and mountains mean we rarely get to see the kind of perfectly flat horizon where the curve would be most obvious.
However, you can detect the curve of the Earth from ground level at the coast with a pair of binoculars - just look for distant ships on the horizon and you’ll see that their hulls start to disappear before their masts and other superstructure. Ancient Greek scientists, who spotted this without any optical aids, used this to conclude that the Earth was round.
Ignore this idiot.. It always will be. Chris you post the most stupid comments I have ever read
If the flat earth society really believe the earth is flat prove it, go hire a plane or something go to the edge of the earth and prove it. If the earth was really flat it would not be hard to prove.
lucky Picciri the problem with that is that requires work, and lazy conspirators dont like to work, just type away at a computer.
Warlord795 Exactly. They make accusations and give explanations for things but don't provide proof.
lucky Picciri ik right
Or go to the edge of the universe, you ballers have the same problem with the "edge". Our flat plaine could be infinie, we dont know. (relplace the DOT) youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=k0xClWgidZU&t=1s
@@exjwflatearther6554 it could be infinite? In which direction?! North? South east west....think it through are you serious?
Very well then. I take it that it was the gravity within the (roughly spherical) apple that caused it to drop onto Isaac Newton's head.
In that case, come down to Earth and live on a flat one.
:32-:47.....if that is the case, why when i travel in a plane doesnt my aircraft crash to the ground?
how do you explain time zones
They are flat too!
Time Zones don't need to be explained; they were superimposed by human beings, who also devised hours and minutes and who also invented clocks and watches as a means of measuring these. I heard that the European Union wish to switch to a metric system and transfer GMT to Brussels, regardless of what the rest of the world thinks about it. If they get away with this I would expect Switzerland to join the EU.
Chris Wilson
It still does not explain that it is day at some place and night at some other place at the samr time!
hunchbacked You are right on that point. But with the Earth being flat, the date is the same across the whole world.
and how about the water wouldn't the currents lead it to eventually float off into space? and don't try that ice berg theory there's such thing as erosion and global warming.
What about Flirt Arthurs?
but if it had wings, how come the air moving downwards doesnt push the wings down?
He didn't explain anything, he simply stated what he believes, and he didn't even do that very thoroughly
How do u explain time zones?
When my girlfriend used to sign off 'LOL', I always thought she meant 'Lots of Love'. Now you've got me worried.
And volcanoes? They get the power and the lava from where again?
+Trina Ana Don't expect an intelligent answer to that question. I would bet money that any (literal) flat earther would claim it's Hell that makes volcanoes erupt. Yes they are that stupid.
Watch globebusters on sundays, they adress all kinds of scientific questions.
That's proposterous. Gravity is because the Earth has a molten core that creates a giant magnet. You dont fall off because if a 500 million ton moon (idk how much it weighs) is attracted to Earth then how do you think a 150 lb person will fall off the side?
you know, i never tried that. flew straight from A back to A. i really want to try it, will i go back or meet a different ending. it bothers my curiosity.
10. round planets prove earth is a planet the same as a bowl of jelly proves im jelly
9. they are the same, you are confused
8. they are divided by the heat from the sun
7. if you use a compass as your guider, it works out the same
6. the surface has nothing to do with the angle of the sun
my point is, you think if the horizon is curved, water has to fall off the horizon's curve. that is in no way true, and never will be. the horizon is curved, but since gravity pulls towards the center of the earth, the water does not fall off the sides. the earth is a spheroid. (assuming you think the earth is flat).
Is it a square disc??
How do explain the distances from Chile to Australia traveling west?
at 0:31 he tells that gravity is an illusion because the "disc" accelerates upwards at 9.8 meters per second, now, all those flar earth theories are somehow related to the bible, so i did the math with how old the earth is according to the bible, and if for the last 5000 years earth was accelerating at 9.8 m/s by now it would be going at 5000 times the speed of light
Earthquakes are caused by tectonic movement. The way quakes work is tectonic plates are constantly moving towards eachother building up pressure. eventually they will have to release that pressure, and that is done by one plate moving up and the other moving down, causing the ground to shake. this can be demonstrated by pushing your hands together.
so with that in mind, make sure you know how gravity works before arguing. there's no need to tell me to get real, as the earth is indeed a spheroid.
So if the earth is accelerating, how fast do you think we are going by now, just want to hear your point of view, if we are accelerating at a rate of 9.81mps, we must be going really really fast.
alright, but if the earth is flat, how do we get time zones?
Yes, quite right. And if you let the elevator accelerate DOWNWARDS at a speed of 9.81 meters per second, you will experience weightlessness. And this is really a good proof that the earth as a whole is accelerating UPWARDS with speed 9.81 meters per second.
How do they suppose their GPS works??
Cell phone towers, that's what they say.
Who are the 2012 believers? I've never heard of them.
Think of this: While falling, every second your speed relative to the ground goes up by 9.8 meters a second. If the earth was moving up to simulate that it would have to be moving 9.8 meters faster every second.
What would make a flat disk accelerate through space in a manner the speaker references? That whole 9.8m per second squared thing sort of relies on a center of mass being at the middle of a sphere. And even on the sphere the 9.8m^2 number varies a little as a function of latitude, altitude and local geologic variations. Those variations would be far greater on a flat disk.
I honestly thought this was a joke. I know no one can actually believe it's a flat, round circle with NASA agents guarding the 2 mile high ice wall. Damn, I knew this was a bad time to give up smoking pot and tripping on acid.
This is because there are an infinite number of suns that move across the earth at regular intervals of 24 hours. So it's never the same sun that we see even though they look very similar.
you can't simulate gravity by having the disc move up. By doing so you're implying that there are particles in space that can add pressure to the ground, which there is not
they say the GPS system is rigged to make pilots think they are flying in a straight line, when they're actually flying in a circle.
only 2 dimensions? so we are all flat segments of lines with no height? and how do we manage to stand up, jump, fly etc if there is no 3rd dimension?
nobody in the history of mankind has ever demonstrated magnets orbiting each other...
not being rude and disproving your theories but why when you look into horizon is it curved? :)
It isnt.
Are you absolutely sure you want to hear the explanation on that issue?
It's strange to think that all the myriad of stars in the night sky are actually suns. It's even stranger to think that all the suns, planets and moons are automatically forced into being roughly spherical. Forget the Chaos Theory: uniformity is the name of the game - or so we're told.
why doesn't the air flow off the sides of the earth if its flat the air is pulled down (accelerated relative too the earth that is accelerated upwards) and it would be flowing of the side what is preventing the air then?
indeed true, but if it's that far away, we'd be living underground with massive power stations to power lights and heat facilities, because the sun would be so far away that the the light wouldn't have reached us yet so the surface would have no light or heat. we'd also live off of salt (NaCl), worms, and processed minerals. we'd need to heat up water to drink it, and we'd need to depressurize the subterranean air to the proper PSI to avoid getting smashed by the sheer pressure.
The same question surely applies also to a spherical Earth, if you substitute "surface" for "sides". It does appear that Earth moves along with its atmosphere, but Earth may not actually be moving at all. Even Round Earthers may suspect something of the sort. For example, if I'm driving along at 60mph and I'm overtaken by a car doing 70mph, they see the other car as doing only 10mph. I don't think they are right.
1) how come nobody has yet "bumped" into these huge ice walls that he claims runs the perimeter of the "disk"?
2) the shortest flight distance from australia to brazil is approx. 9700 miles...but according to this theory, that wouldn't be possible seeing as the 2 countries are on opposite ends of the "disk".
ps the UN uses that map because the center of the map is not on any country or region. its a diplomatic symbol.
name one single financial motive that someone could have in saying that the world is a globe rather than a disk.
The Earth is not flat, there are many experiments and observations that you can make yourself to confirm this.
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The fact that the Earth is spherical has been known since ancient Greek times (Eratosthenes calculated its circumference around 200 B.C.E.), but that knowledge was largely lost in the Middle Ages (until the Crusades). I don't think the Bible says anything about the matter except mentioning "the four corners of the Earth" in passing.
ok..what about earth quakes in a non flat earth the big ones would be measurable all over the earth but as we measure it at the exact opposite you can measure P waves, but from 140° to about 104° you can measure none and 104° to 0° (all this supposing a round earth so 0° where you are and 180° on the opposite) you measure both P and S waves all this fits the round earth and it's inner structure. (s waves cannot propagate through liquid)
how do you explain this phenomenon with a round earth?
But gravity only exists in any measurable amount in large, spherical objects (they're spherical because of the gravity). Besides, if the earth was flat, the light would not bend around like that. Nor would it appear so curved from our close proximity
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... Is not strong enough to cause anything to fling off the planet with the gravitational force which is generated.
Gravity at the center of the earth is absent. Due to the fact that gravity pulls toward the center, and for the sake of the example, you are at the center, there is no longer an effect generated.
The reason you always feel upright is because gravity is pulling virtually equal everywhere on the surface, with some very, very slight variation. (out of characters again)
Not so. You have forgotten to take into account two things: 1) The length of time taken for the journey you describe, and 2) The counterclockwise spin of the Earth during that time.
with rough calculations I did while sleeping I calculated a human of 2meters height could see on the sphere as far as 3200 km in case the earth... so a human is just like the lenght of one millionth of the supposed circumference of the earth 24000 km. and a man can see on a sphere of smooth surface directly to 3200 km around him, so from perspective the surface could look somewhat flat. the curvature of meters per thousands of kilometers would be hardly viewed.
If the earth is flat and all the continents and oceans are on one side of a huge disk, then what is on the other side of this huge disk?
Because they haven't yet thought up a reason that would sound plausible and doused in conspiracy enough that every argument could be discredited with "THEY are covering it up!"
I don't remember saying anything about covering anything up. If you mean by 'covering up' that there's some sort of conspiracy, I'm not one of those people who always seem to think there's some sort of faking or conspiracy going on.
The Earth's horizon may well be curved, but not in the way you think. If you have ever thrown a discus, you will know that a relatively flat object can have some curvature on its surface.
Gravity isn't just a force pushing us down, but also a force attracting to very large masses. So then since every mass in the universe is attracted to every other mass in the universe, the land mass that is the earth will be forced into a sphere, as there is equal tension on all sides.
There is no air that supports the wings of the aircraft when flown over the edge so it will disappear anytime without leaving any trace behind, and that is why it is never reported anything.
the fact that people still believe that the earth is flat is by itself amazing
You are absolutely right. The camera never lies. The illusion that the earth is round is because we have TWO eyes. The brain misinterprets because reality so that it becomes three dimensional when in fact only two dimensions. You just close one of your eyes and with your one eye you will see things as they really are.
"I don't think the conspiracy has to be as... well, global... as you'd think "
If they don't accept the theory of gravity, I think it's safe to say that they don't accept that there is a cosmic speed limit in c either.
On a spherical Earth, this is true. But on a flat Earth, it wouldn't be. Assuming the atmosphere doesn't somehow leave Earth entirely, the atmosphere would be completely perpendicular to whatever force is preventing it from leaving Earth, and if you believe in a flat Earth, that force is uniform. Hence, the atmosphere would have no curvature, and hence, neither would the horizon. This obviously contradicts the reality that we see, so it follows that the Earth isn't flat after all.
PS. When I was in school my favourite teacher of all time stood straight in one direction and said "If I keep walking and eventually get back here, why?". I was the only kid there to answer. I felt smart. And that's school. Regurgitate what "lol everybody knows" so we can go on to contribute to making smarter bombs, GMO foods, and better advertising mediums.
The assumption is we're all one of a kind whom I can trust. You're not my brother. You need to prove yourself to me like everybody else.
Yes, we know that the Earth is round, the bullshit about accelaration (to simulate gravity) doesn't make a sense, because Earth would reach a speed of light in a matter of a year.
But I don't think that the guy is trolling, he doesn't sound like a troll
You may be interested in these three videos:
The ISON Challenge to "Alternative Science" Proponents
Geocentrists' Videos of Jupiter's Moons
Kepler and Newton vs. The Vortex, Geocentric, and Flat Earth Theories
I was on a U2 once. It was a journalism assignment when I was in college. We went up so high, I dont know the exact number. But we got high enough to see the actual curvature of the earth. I dont really see how the earth could be flat when it is obviously round
A bubble is round because it starts off round. As to my 'points of the compass' question, gravitationists steer well clear of it because it leaves them totally exposed. They have no explanation.
We are being pulled towards the earth's center. Wherever you stand on earth, it is pulling down on you from inside the earth. There is no universal "down" direction, it depends on where you're standing on the earth that determines which direction is down.
Imagine a spherical magnet. If you put something magnetic next to it, no matter where you put it on the surface, it will be attracted to it.
It not an absurd impossibility when you realise there is no down in a vacuum.Gravity pulls ,they are both stood the right way up to the pull of the gravity at the earths core.
For shits and giggles I did some calculating.
I took the standard 6000 years for the creation story, and extrapolated it out to 1.89216x10^11 seconds.
I then multiplied by 9.80 m/s^2 for the 'gravity' acceleration, and got 1.8543168x10^12 m/s for what we should be going at today.
I then divided by the speed of light, 3x10^8 m/s (approximately)
I got 6181 times the speed of light as our current speed from stationary at creation. Good job, guys. You broke physics.
so, why then do we have different time zones? If it's a flat disk, wouldn't we all have the same time all the time?
There is probably a very complex picture of the financial motives behind this. To point out one of these causes would not be able to describe it all. So the only thing is to try to put together all these reasons to get a complete picture.
they don't think planets orbit the sun. They think there are multiple suns moving over the flat surface of planets. The only reason we feel what we think is gravity is because Earth is constantly moving up. (ikr?) Why we don't eventually move out of the solar system or the Milky Way idk.
So if Earth accelerates at a constant speed upward. Then that means that all objects dropped at the same level would hit the ground at the same time. Now take a feather and a rock, drop it at the same level.
So...if it moves upward, doesn't it have to come down eventually?
The presumption appears to be that everything out there in space, including Earth, is roughly spherical. They don't know that, of course, but they find it a convenient starting-point upon which to base all their other 'scientific' assumptions.
gravity is acceleration? shouldn't we have reached light speed by now? What force is acting on earth to make it accelerate? One cannot simply make a space station orbit a plate as if it was a sphere.
How could anyone think the Earth is Flat when Space craft and satellites take pictures of it. Aircraft fly around it. If it were flat then Ships and cars would fall off of it. Lets see you give me an intelligent answer to my question.
This video sounds much better with the Beastie Boys "Multilateral Nuclear Disarmament" playing behind it!
The most obvious problem I see with this theory: how can people travel by ship or aircraft from Australia to South America that fast? You couldn't cross the South Pole, since it was a wall around the earth only... Any suggestions? ;-)
Frank Nitsch This is pure nonsense... judt happened to have music playing when I viewed it, which kinda worked. I has followed a link from a discussion on a new film that actually does attempt to seriously claim a geocentric universe. There was an excellent and entertaining series of videos explaining the many ways that couldn't possible work... it's bollocks, as it said. So I went looking for even more crazy, but the flat earthers don't even make the attempt.
*****, how can you be so sure? ;-)
Well, I'm with you my friend. I'm just trying to understand, how these guys may deal with the obvious issues of their theory. But I'm sure they have answers for all of these questions. I also watched another movie about them on YT. It's really crazy, how they present their topic and how little criticism there is among their group. I meant, they are merely supporting all the "facts" presented in meetings instead of having a serious discussion. Not agreeing to all that probably means that you are no longer an accepted member of the group. And maybe some of them are part of the group to be part of a group only...
Just Google "flat earth map." The flat earthers will say that nobody has ever ventured far enough into Antarctica (how far this is, I do not know) to find the ice wall. Somewhere behind the ice wall is the edge.