I work in the restoration industry and also fix houses. In this size range the Rebar for me is the best multi tool I’ve ever used. In my opinion the plier heads on the Rebar are better than the free series for serious work. The Arc looks like a great tool for EDC and light work. But if you are doing heavier work I’d go with the Rebar, Surge, or Super Tool 300. My wave fell apart on me in a month
working in a similar job (commercial maintenance) I've become a fan of the Rebar/ST300, kinda subjective but they both "feel" as though I can count on them compared to the P4 I was walking around with
Same for me FDE Rebar is my perfect every day carry and ST300 when heavy duty work requires it. Arc seems like a swing and a miss, plagued with problems.
Victorinox mx clip is on par or even better. Robust build and quality control, ergonomic handle, very high rust resistance, chisel, package opener, better can opener, longer Philip driver, shiny finish, no big hole on file.
I’m absolutely surprised that you did not include Gerber’s Multi-Plier 800 Legend. Not sure if it or the Surge was the first to have a replaceable saw, but it was designed to have easy access to the all the tools on the outside of the knife. I have always particularly liked the locking mechanism on it and the other Gerber multi-pliers. If it had a better blade steel on it and a straighter handle, I would have gotten it again instead of the Arc. That said, I absolutely love my Arc. I also bought a GOAT. Truly regret buying it.
I thought about the Legend but it's a bit heavier that the Center Drive and I feel like my Center Drive is built tougher. It does have a good tool set. If the MP1 was still made that probably would have been closest to the Arc.
@@hvacbudget8600if you had to choose between the victorinox Swiss tool MX clip or the Leatherman ARC which multi-tool would you choose? And looking forward to hearing back for your information and thank you
£260 in uk… may still buy it… want to see if the wire cutters issue is fixed first. I have Surge and Rebar and love them both. Rebar used daily. Also have Vicrorinox swisstool and Champ, Gerber 600 mp, dual force and Suspension. I like them all and all have got me out of a pinch.
The Arc isn't that expensive in the UK. Current price from LM or other suppliers is £260 which equates to $325. I think the 400-500 pricepoint you mentioned would be Australian dollars, $500 Aus comes out at $325 US as well. However Vic Swisstool Spirit MX pocket clip (the one with one handed opening blade and scissors) can be had normally for £160 or on sale at the moment for £140 so I think if I were looking to buy a good multitool that would be a better option, for me anyway.
@@cloudalien443 I bought myself an electic kit and did my diy electric bike.Goes 48 km/h without peddaling and I got a good range of 56 km ( no pedaling,avg speed 20km/h)
We know two of multitool that can give the Leatherman Arc a good run, we got one and so do you Mr.Hvac. We've seen your mod sir, ours is almost as good. Maybe further up down the road..! We are very surprise that non of those multitool company haven't hire you mate..! On second thought, think your mod is a Leatherman.?! Oh well Sir, that would mean we got the best competitor to the Arc....! Ha.! You the Man. You the master.! Your vids fascinate us. Cheers for sharing from Australia.
@@hvacbudget8600if money was not an option, would you choose the Leatherman ARC over the victorinox Swiss tool MX clip? And looking forward to your information and thank you.
@clarkkent4608 That's a hard question because both are great tools. The Leatherman tool line has issues with heir replaceable cutters current design being worse than the previous design. Even so I like the fidget factor of the Arc. I like the bit driver and the micro bit driver. I think even with some negatives I would pick the Arc. Keep in mind probably the Victorinox may last longer and be tougher, even more comfortable. The Leatherman Arc is a fairly special engineered tool though even with it's flaws. So while I would probably say the Victorinox is the wiser choice, I would still pick the Arc because it is more customizable.
I really want a LM Arc, but I do live one of those places where its about the equalent of $450 (for reference the Surge is about 150). Thing is, I dont need one. I just really want it. I do love multitools and when you dont have anything else, they are absolute life savers. I usually carry a small one every day, but I very rarely ever use them. In 99% of cases I either already have the proper tool for a job with me, or would rather go over and get it. That makes the 450 bucks for a multitool upgrade very hard to justify, even when the magnacut blade could probably replace a pocket knife entirely. Also the only thing I think i'd miss would be the t-shank holder from the surge, that thing is awesome. But oh well, maybe one day when it drops in price.
I'm not so sure about that since the last ALIEXPRESS adventure. 😂 I ordered the new SwissTech 18 in 1 with the stone wash finish and precision screwdriver. I got literally scammed. All the screws were butchered, heat treatment is non existent, everything loosened after a week. I had to completely disassemble and wash the metal powder off. Than re organise the washsers to stiffen up the plier as much as I can. Spent two hours with trial and error to reach a 10 year old beaten up Leatherman Wave level. At least now looks like a multitool..... I don't recommend it anymore because no QC. Maybe yours perfect mine is trash.
@@edwardfletcher7790 100% came in a white box with a Swiss+Tech label on it. Nothing like the retail package. The best part, the seller refused to give a discount. Waiting for AE to step in... Really upset. I will never buy from Choice section again.
Quality control on victorinox leaves leatherman for dead i much prefer the blade on your model than mine plus the scissors are truly awful on their pocket knifes they are brilliant can not figure that one out the arc if you are on a budget its a no
A tool with magnets will perform bad in an industrial environement. The only upside is that most heavy industry workshops have some source of compressed air to clean the tool. But lets be fair, thats a collector's tool.
Nah, check out Cedric and Ada’s video on the Free-one of the P tools. He sharpened a knife and dragged the Free through the shavings and it basically didn’t affect the tool in any way.
@@edwardfletcher7790 i really doubt that anyone will use this tool in a dirty industrial workshop and thats why nobody complains. To be fair, i dont own the tool and have no iteea how strong the magnets are. Im rotating 2 Surge, one with a sheath, one with an adhesive clip. As an analogy, i wont complain that my shiny full metal g-shock get scratches because i use a Garmin Fenix at work! But again, i might be wrong.
I work in the restoration industry and also fix houses. In this size range the Rebar for me is the best multi tool I’ve ever used. In my opinion the plier heads on the Rebar are better than the free series for serious work. The Arc looks like a great tool for EDC and light work. But if you are doing heavier work I’d go with the Rebar, Surge, or Super Tool 300. My wave fell apart on me in a month
working in a similar job (commercial maintenance) I've become a fan of the Rebar/ST300, kinda subjective but they both "feel" as though I can count on them compared to the P4 I was walking around with
Same for me FDE Rebar is my perfect every day carry and ST300 when heavy duty work requires it. Arc seems like a swing and a miss, plagued with problems.
Victorinox mx clip is on par or even better. Robust build and quality control, ergonomic handle, very high rust resistance, chisel, package opener, better can opener, longer Philip driver, shiny finish, no big hole on file.
I’m absolutely surprised that you did not include Gerber’s Multi-Plier 800 Legend. Not sure if it or the Surge was the first to have a replaceable saw, but it was designed to have easy access to the all the tools on the outside of the knife. I have always particularly liked the locking mechanism on it and the other Gerber multi-pliers. If it had a better blade steel on it and a straighter handle, I would have gotten it again instead of the Arc. That said, I absolutely love my Arc. I also bought a GOAT. Truly regret buying it.
I thought about the Legend but it's a bit heavier that the Center Drive and I feel like my Center Drive is built tougher. It does have a good tool set. If the MP1 was still made that probably would have been closest to the Arc.
@@hvacbudget8600if you had to choose between the victorinox Swiss tool MX clip or the Leatherman ARC which multi-tool would you choose? And looking forward to hearing back for your information and thank you
The arc is the finest multi tool ever built bar none
£260 in uk… may still buy it… want to see if the wire cutters issue is fixed first. I have Surge and Rebar and love them both. Rebar used daily. Also have Vicrorinox swisstool and Champ, Gerber 600 mp, dual force and Suspension. I like them all and all have got me out of a pinch.
The Arc isn't that expensive in the UK. Current price from LM or other suppliers is £260 which equates to $325. I think the 400-500 pricepoint you mentioned would be Australian dollars, $500 Aus comes out at $325 US as well.
However Vic Swisstool Spirit MX pocket clip (the one with one handed opening blade and scissors) can be had normally for £160 or on sale at the moment for £140 so I think if I were looking to buy a good multitool that would be a better option, for me anyway.
Good to know.
Can confirm, the Arc is AU$500 online here and I've never seen it in stock in a shop.
Add 200 and you buy an used Fiesta :)
@@dragosr6074 LoL! Probably!
@@cloudalien443 I bought myself an electic kit and did my diy electric bike.Goes 48 km/h without peddaling and I got a good range of 56 km ( no pedaling,avg speed 20km/h)
We know two of multitool that can give the Leatherman Arc a good run, we got one and so do you Mr.Hvac. We've seen your mod sir, ours is almost as good. Maybe further up down the road..! We are very surprise that non of those multitool company haven't hire you mate..! On second thought, think your mod is a Leatherman.?! Oh well Sir, that would mean we got the best competitor to the Arc....! Ha.! You the Man. You the master.! Your vids fascinate us. Cheers for sharing from Australia.
Thanks! Appreciate the encouragement!
@@hvacbudget8600if money was not an option, would you choose the Leatherman ARC over the victorinox Swiss tool MX clip? And looking forward to your information and thank you.
@clarkkent4608 That's a hard question because both are great tools. The Leatherman tool line has issues with heir replaceable cutters current design being worse than the previous design. Even so I like the fidget factor of the Arc. I like the bit driver and the micro bit driver. I think even with some negatives I would pick the Arc. Keep in mind probably the Victorinox may last longer and be tougher, even more comfortable. The Leatherman Arc is a fairly special engineered tool though even with it's flaws.
So while I would probably say the Victorinox is the wiser choice, I would still pick the Arc because it is more customizable.
I really want a LM Arc, but I do live one of those places where its about the equalent of $450 (for reference the Surge is about 150). Thing is, I dont need one. I just really want it.
I do love multitools and when you dont have anything else, they are absolute life savers. I usually carry a small one every day, but I very rarely ever use them. In 99% of cases I either already have the proper tool for a job with me, or would rather go over and get it. That makes the 450 bucks for a multitool upgrade very hard to justify, even when the magnacut blade could probably replace a pocket knife entirely. Also the only thing I think i'd miss would be the t-shank holder from the surge, that thing is awesome.
But oh well, maybe one day when it drops in price.
That is very pricy! I like my Surge!
Agree on the Flik… they should’ve worked just a leeetle bit harder on it and it would’ve been a serious challenger.
Definitely!
👍🏼the price and the unnecessary magnacut blade makes most tools beat the arc for me. :) I think I like it’s other tools tho.
Good points!
What’s Leatherman doing to address the cutter issue?
Apparently some people are getting free improved cutters to replace the bad ones on their Arc. I still need to email Leatherman about mine.
They're sending out the original spec cutters for free...
@@utubesurfer71 That is disappointing. I feel Leatherman is not consistent on this pretty big problem!
@@utubesurfer71 Keep me posted!
@@utubesurfer71 Leatherman isn't famous for their communication skills.... SIGH
I'm not so sure about that since the last ALIEXPRESS adventure. 😂 I ordered the new SwissTech 18 in 1 with the stone wash finish and precision screwdriver. I got literally scammed. All the screws were butchered, heat treatment is non existent, everything loosened after a week. I had to completely disassemble and wash the metal powder off. Than re organise the washsers to stiffen up the plier as much as I can. Spent two hours with trial and error to reach a 10 year old beaten up Leatherman Wave level. At least now looks like a multitool..... I don't recommend it anymore because no QC. Maybe yours perfect mine is trash.
That sounds awful!
Dang, they sold you a factory reject !😠
@@edwardfletcher7790 100% came in a white box with a Swiss+Tech label on it. Nothing like the retail package. The best part, the seller refused to give a discount. Waiting for AE to step in... Really upset. I will never buy from Choice section again.
Quality control on victorinox leaves leatherman for dead i much prefer the blade on your model than mine plus the scissors are truly awful on their pocket knifes they are brilliant can not figure that one out the arc if you are on a budget its a no
A tool with magnets will perform bad in an industrial environement. The only upside is that most heavy industry workshops have some source of compressed air to clean the tool. But lets be fair, thats a collector's tool.
Nah, check out Cedric and Ada’s video on the Free-one of the P tools. He sharpened a knife and dragged the Free through the shavings and it basically didn’t affect the tool in any way.
100's of commenters said that and I thought exactly the same, but I'm yet to read a single real review complaining about it happening in real life...
@@edwardfletcher7790 i really doubt that anyone will use this tool in a dirty industrial workshop and thats why nobody complains. To be fair, i dont own the tool and have no iteea how strong the magnets are. Im rotating 2 Surge, one with a sheath, one with an adhesive clip. As an analogy, i wont complain that my shiny full metal g-shock get scratches because i use a Garmin Fenix at work!
But again, i might be wrong.
@@randomescu You can't be wrong, you own a Surge, that's the ultimate Multitool 👍
I work in a metal stamping company and I have a LM free p4 and had zero issues with magnets on them
You forgot bibury 21-1
One word: DL30