Minsung has also had his fair share of trauma. hes talked about how being an idol effected him, especially in reference to his sexuality. hes openly queer now but said there were a lot of issues trying to figure himself out while being an idol. hes also attempted suicide a few times, even on ig live. hes doing wonderfully now and seems really happy! i love that guy so much and hes been thru a lot
I’ll never forget Stardom/Hunus for ruining their potential along with EVOL and Elris! They all deserved better! Edit: I’m so happy for Alice/Elris now but I hope their newer agency doesn’t neglect and give up on them
I remember the whole purpose of EvoL was Stardom doing a female version of Block B (speaking of them, its a good thing Block B left when they did after their lawsuit) EvoL and ToppDogg were some of my favorite groups back then. Great potential wasted and both were criminally underrated..
I loved ToppDogg so much. There is SO MUCH lore behind the group and it’s mind blowing how much was going on behind the scenes. I regret not supporting them more back in the day, as I really liked them. But I do have copies of my favourite ToppDogg albums signed (recommend their albums First Street and The Beat) so I feel grateful. Thank you for making this video
As one of the last few toppklass… heres some of the inaccuracies + more info. 1: topp dogg was supposed to basically be the new block b. sangwon (yano) was promoted as the new zico. It’s obvious as zico has never liked kidoh or sangwon. 2: xero was one of the original lineup members. 3: topp dogg ‘g’ stood for both gold and global. 4: its rumored kidoh joined stardom to begin with because of the solo album. 5:hunus is essentially stardom. Its the same company, whereas the company workers went to seven seasons. 6: hunus refused to tell us jenissi left. Mwave leaked it way before hunus did. 7: sangdo is in a long term relationship! We assume he’s going to get married sometime soon. 8: nakta currently goes by ‘kinda’ and is in a duo called gabby onme. 9: underdogg was never going to go anywhere. leons rumored bully was jiwon, and as seogoong was around them… who knows which one he was bullied by. I 100% believe he was bullied (for other reasons too). Updates on the members: as i said sangdo is in a long term relationship… jenissi is also engaged! Pgoon is in the military. Gohn and bjoo (presumably) live together with junhyeok, ex day6 member. Kidoh is still releasing solo music, i believe he lives with mokyo. All of them, besides pgoon, have instagram and are relatively pretty active (besides sangwon, sanggyun, gohn, jenissi). Also, to the comments about minsungs sexuality, he is not asexual or aromantic. He has asked people to stop talking about his sexuality. Do not call him queer, as he obviously regrets coming out
topp dogg my poor meow meows... they had so much potential... sometimes when i hear current boygroup songs i think that if stardom/hunus hadn't completely ruined everything they would be a topp (haha) group right now
I'm surprised you didn't mention Minsung's coming out. For those who are curious, Minsung came out as asexual (and later aromantic) during a livestream in 2017, shortly before his departure. And yes, that's why I discovered this group lol.
I love ToppDogg so much, they were incredibly talented, as many groups with awful management. I specially miss Jenissi, his rapping style was very unique but he has vanished from social media and music 😭
toppdogg was basically what got me into kpop and I will always be angry at chode pd for his horrendous mismanagement/mistreatment of not only them, but every other one of the groups that were under his care. he lied and lied and LIED to all of the young and talented people he ensnared within contracts and then wasted their amazing potential while grossly under/not paying them for years. even when he stepped down as ceo, there was no way to recover from all the damage done. I'm glad to hear someone talk about these boys. I really loved toppdogg, and xeno-t could have maybe even had SOMETHING, but all they did was give them one Japanese debut and then never tried anything ever again. I hope all the boys are doing well. I still follow all the ones who are still pursuing music/dance. although some of them have...less than savory company and behaviors...i will not deny they all had incredible talent and I still wonder what would have become of them as a group had they been able to prosper well together.
I followed them from beginning to end, and closely checked up on their activities/news with each member/former member as it went by. This is memories to me! Seeing all this reminded me of how much I miss them, and how sad their treatment was. They had so much potential 😩
Doomed from the start is always the description I hear given to Topp Dogg, and sadly, it's perfectly accurate. Stardom/Hunus had no clue what they were doing with this group. Going from a planned 6 to a whopping 13 members just to media play them to actual popular groups, set their fate imo. The numerous different subunits they planned was like NCT on steroids and did them no favors. And the constant releases and blowing their already small budget on a billion different things just messed them up. They clearly just hoped Topp Dogg would just become popular through thin air and when that didn't happen and members started dropping like flies, they basically gave up on them. Being a Topp Klass was so painful that I had to leave during the survival show era of Xeno-T. I'm at least glad to hear that many of the guys are doing better now.
I discovered ToppDogg way back when UA-camr Megan Bowen Moon released a couple of videos interviewing and playing games with the members. It was the 9 at the time. I was hooked on them ever since. So much talent and they went through so much. Many members who left the group are still thriving on their own, and the handful left still have the fanbase behind them. I would LOVE to see a re-debut of Xeno-T.
They were all so talented, the rap line was great and they had AMAZING dancers. It's so unfortunate that they couldn't become famous... They really deserved it.
Seogoong's experience with the rest of the members is disheartening and most of all, unnecessary. The fact that they allowed an *in person voting* to take place to essentially kick him out with no hesitation. That's even worse than voting against a member behind the scenes. Its immature and petty. With instances like this, its best for that one member to leave on their own terms or the company itself goes about with the termination.
wayyy too many people are talking about minsungs coming out that he has since retracted bc he doesnt want to specify his sexuality… anyways,, theres so much more that happened to them and even though i feel negatively towards some of the members now, i still wish they hadnt had to go through all this idk
i was hoping for a video on toppdogg! they were my number one group for the longest time and they could have been so huge if not everything was against them. they deserved so much better and i would like to thank you for talking about them so more people get to know about them and their story!
Truly one of the most underrated groups in Kpop imho. Annie is still one of my top favorite Kpop songs to this day. It really is such a shame that their management screwed them over like that.
ahh i used to love toppdogg so much, my favourite members were bjoo and minsung, but moreso minsung due to how cheerful his personality seemed. sadly he's gone through a lot of trauma since being an idol, it makes me so sad hearing about those days, but i'm glad he's doing well and being who he really is. (when he came out as aroace i also considered myself aroace at the time, which made me not only proud of him but confident in myself)
This video brought back so much memories i kinda forgot about tp but once you showed the members a wave of emotion rushed over me and all the memories:')
My Toppklass heart always breaking knowing if they only debut this year or early as 3rd gen they might have the Popularity they deserve. ToppDogg is ahead of their time :(
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore i was so invested in both elris and topp dogg's debut, they had really good kickstarts in the industry and then years later completely disappeared from public. now that i know they're under the same company it wasn't all that surprising
I am surprised you didn't mention that Hansol, back in 2018, attempted su*cide and on his Instagram he showed how severely depressed he was and talked often about wanting to end his life (there are articles up if you search his name). A lot fans were shaken up at the time with departure of lovely shinee member, took to his Instagram comments, dms, letters and emails to send love and support. Hopefully he is better now. But at the time we all know how much it was his agency's fault.
The first group I ever stanned. I grew out of kpop a few years ago but these boys and their music still hold a special place in my heart. Hope they’re all doing alright. They deserved so much better.
They are so insanely talented. They all deserved better. I use to love their music but the problems made it hard to keep track on them. But it's nice to know they are doing well
The story of Toppdogg is a very sad one and a whole mess. As for their subunits, it is as if they didn't exist. Ity's sad as I really loved Toppdoggs discography.
they were one of the first groups I got to know back in 2014. its so annoying that once again the company ruined a group with so much potential and its sad that they struggled so much behind the scenes
Really really thank you for talking about them! 💕 It makes me so sad and angry to see that they were never fully recognized as they deserved. The worst part is that there are lots of groups that are even more underrated and unfamiliar to kpopers,netizens and fans. I think that they're part of the groups that had a song that maked them "famous" and they were forgotten (Speed, Madtown, History, C-Clown, Uniq, Boys Republic, 24K.. And the list could go on and on...) As a Toppklass I couldn't help to feel sad to see they stayed on that horrible agency, but Toppklass will always support them in all they decide to do. I miss my 13 boys and the subunit members, Underdogg, Toppdogg G... But hopefully, this video reach many people so they see their amazing skills and voices. I love your chanel, your voice is so calming and the quality in every video is outstanding! You're so cool, I hope to continue seeing this stories.
This group is the reason i started listening to kpop. I found my ult groups and had the best time of my life. now with all my ult groups (izone, wannaone and got7 kinda) having already disbanded, i still wait for xeno-t to come back some day. thank u so much for this video🙌🏻
I am here just to let my TK heart break again. It's been so many years and I still missing them asi did so many years in the past. I wish they appear again and show the world what they missed back then.
i was a huge td stan back in the day and pretty much until the very end. you could tell by the beat era that the group was split internally…. in my opinion between the “good” members and the “bad” members. so much shit went down behind the scenes, over half of the group did ridiculous things. racism, mistreating fans, grooming and being a p*do, abandoning their kids… so much shit. most specifically the mistreatment of leon (the chinese member of the subunit) by seogoong, kidoh’s racism and nakta’s colourism/grooming issues. oop. 🤭 sangdo will forever be my fav in all of kpop though. yano, xero, b-joo, gohn, minsol and hojoon, i wish you a long life with success in whatever you desire. if anyone’s curious or has more questions lemme know, i still have so much of this shit in my brain. 5 years dedicated to them and being in the depths of toppklass it’s hard to forget LOL
Can you make a video about Dae Guk Nam Ah or DGNA (they also go by The Boss or Daikoku Danji in Japan). They were a 5 member boy group that debuted in 2010 with the song Admiring Boy. The members previously came from a group called XING. The group hasn't made or promoted music together since 2017, and in 2018 their leader Mika left and each member has since been working on their own personal careers. I don't believe they ever personally stated that the group had disbanded, but being that they haven't been active as a group in a while, I can only guess that they may as well be disbanded. All of the members still seem pretty close and continue to support each other in their solo endeavors. Going back to Daikoku Danji, the name they used when promoting in Japan, they seemed to have had a decent career in Japan as they've made more Japanese music and seemed to spend more time focusing on their Japanese promotions. The CEO of their previous company came under fire after it came out that he had been s**ually as*ault*ng trainees, causing the company to close down and DGNA signing with a new company. DGNA is one of my favorite boy groups and I continue to follow them and support them as time goes on. While together, the boys were a talented group that I felt were very underrated -- either due to lack of promotions or because they came from a smaller company(?) -- and I wish more people knew of them and their music. Idk if you'll see this comment or if others will notice it, but it'd be amazing to see DGNA being talked about so they could get the recognition they deserved. (And to talk about the unfortunate situation causing the downfall of their company, leading them and labelmates such as X-5 to leave).
omg HE'S HLB?! Since he's involved in the making of some of ATEEZ's songs, he's part of Eden-ary. They are producers who make ATEEZ's songs. In his reaction to Eternal Sunshine he confirms that he's part of KQ Ent.
It's so interesting that these Topp Dogg videos never mention how Kidoh trained with BTS and was very good friends with Namjoon or did I just hallucinate all of that years ago 🧐
It def happened, and Kidoh was close with Seokjin too. They were like attached to the hip and then somewhere in 2014 or 15 (?) they never mentioned one another again.
Their biggest flaw was treating the members as disposable and playing around with them too much. They could have been a modern EXO. They reminded me of early BTS and that became nothing
*This could probably be the most unrelated comment* . I never was a fan or knew any song of ToppDogg but have any of yall read "Lookism" on WEBTOON? Basically the concept, style and some of the members remind me of Johan Seong from the WEBTOON (probably because of his aggressive character, similar hairstyle and of course him being the leader of God DOG). What I'm tryna say is if he decided to make a K-pop group that would probably be it lmao. Now kinda related, whenever I did come across ToppDogg they seemed like such a talented and interesting group with great potential. I'm going to try and listen to their discography because I think it may be worth it :) *Thank you Midnight Theories for reminding me of ToppDogg and your amazing content in general
Arario is forever one of my favourite kpop songs! They could be so famous (maybe as famous as BTS) but sadly Stardom is a piece of garbage and destroyed everything. The concept was so good and the mixture of traditional korean music and typical pop music sooo refreshing… it’s pretty sad. Btw Hansol is now teaching in a dance school in Seoul and looks so happy - you can watch his dance videos an UA-cam. He’s one of the kindest people ever and I wish him all the best! 🦋🦋🦋
I always blame Stardom for this but since Seogoong statement, kinda understand why they didn't succeed. They treat each other badly.. but personally i still love their songs And nakta is a writer for produce101 jp - another day?! 👁️👄👁️
Hunus really fuck up my fav group , EVOL . Eversince that I hated Hunus forever , topdogg also had such a bad management . Elris... Was a pity , I really hope they would be EvoL 2.0 , but it's hunus . What do we even expect . Like the name EvoL was so pretty , While the company is a sh*t
Is it true the groupmates hated each other? I dont know almost nothing about them except the songs And didnt they know that the company was being sued by BlockB???
I think they didn't hate each other per say, it's more, a thirteen teen guys with very different personalities living in a dorm together all the time, they probably didn't have much time to actually get to know each other fully, since they were working so much and having to live together, eat together, train together, get under each others feet and on each others nerves.... can be too much. Sometimes just because on group is suing doesn't mean the company is all bad but I would have taken it as a red flag but then again I am a fan of B.A.P and felt bad for sonAmoo and TRCNG... since well we know how that went... (sonAmoo debuted because of the lawsuit B.A.P had with the company and then TRCNG was mistreated even more so then any other group that we know of in that company.)
I was a Topp Klass, but if I can being honest, I really hate their Annie era. At that time (during the Annie era), I thought they act like they've been in industry for 10 years, when in fact they're just a year old group. Their company trying too hard to make them "look" famous.
Between BAP and TOPP DOGG it really sucks how the companies treated them. Both bands had soooo much potential and I wish they could of went further
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Welcome to the new episode of "Your group and concept serves, but your company sucks"
Minsung has also had his fair share of trauma. hes talked about how being an idol effected him, especially in reference to his sexuality. hes openly queer now but said there were a lot of issues trying to figure himself out while being an idol. hes also attempted suicide a few times, even on ig live. hes doing wonderfully now and seems really happy! i love that guy so much and hes been thru a lot
he attempted suicide on ig live?
@@myragingwhormoans sort of? he got on there once and he was covered in very deep cuts and crying.. it was really scary tbh
@@misaefre wait i never know this happened!!! is he alright now?
@@misaefre thank god
Glad he’s in a better place, the guys been through hell.
I’ll never forget Stardom/Hunus for ruining their potential along with EVOL and Elris! They all deserved better!
Edit: I’m so happy for Alice/Elris now but I hope their newer agency doesn’t neglect and give up on them
Kim sohee is wasting her youth
I remember the whole purpose of EvoL was Stardom doing a female version of Block B (speaking of them, its a good thing Block B left when they did after their lawsuit)
EvoL and ToppDogg were some of my favorite groups back then. Great potential wasted and both were criminally underrated..
@@galaxy_kitten95 yep. And the company BlockB moved to 7 seasons a sub label in KQ Entertainment ruined them as well if I’m correct .
@LUNARIS yeah BlockB but not everyone else. I was saying that 7seasons also mistreated them
@@galaxy_kitten95 True af, I root for EVOL back then, they deserved better
Arario is one of the most unique kpop songs ever!
Exactly, so underrated :(
There needs to be more kpop mvs with korean traditional elements rather than cultural appropriation
@@BTS-or7kg this! Exactly… 😭
I loved ToppDogg so much. There is SO MUCH lore behind the group and it’s mind blowing how much was going on behind the scenes. I regret not supporting them more back in the day, as I really liked them. But I do have copies of my favourite ToppDogg albums signed (recommend their albums First Street and The Beat) so I feel grateful. Thank you for making this video
OMG UR HERE TOO! TFVGHTBJNRKED ONE OF MY FAV KTUBERS 😩😩
@@ysqrrl 😂 I am! Love Midnights content ! And thank you so much 💞
@@jihoonscarat 💖💖💖💖💖💖
WOW, i didn't expect you to be here! I love your channel !
Literally came as soon as this was posted. Girl you're my Netlfix
lmaooooooo
No lie lol
In my opinion, they deserved better. heck, all the groups that were made in this generation of kpop should've gotten bigger.
As one of the last few toppklass… heres some of the inaccuracies + more info.
1: topp dogg was supposed to basically be the new block b. sangwon (yano) was promoted as the new zico. It’s obvious as zico has never liked kidoh or sangwon.
2: xero was one of the original lineup members.
3: topp dogg ‘g’ stood for both gold and global.
4: its rumored kidoh joined stardom to begin with because of the solo album.
5:hunus is essentially stardom. Its the same company, whereas the company workers went to seven seasons.
6: hunus refused to tell us jenissi left. Mwave leaked it way before hunus did.
7: sangdo is in a long term relationship! We assume he’s going to get married sometime soon.
8: nakta currently goes by ‘kinda’ and is in a duo called gabby onme.
9: underdogg was never going to go anywhere. leons rumored bully was jiwon, and as seogoong was around them… who knows which one he was bullied by. I 100% believe he was bullied (for other reasons too).
Updates on the members: as i said sangdo is in a long term relationship… jenissi is also engaged! Pgoon is in the military. Gohn and bjoo (presumably) live together with junhyeok, ex day6 member. Kidoh is still releasing solo music, i believe he lives with mokyo. All of them, besides pgoon, have instagram and are relatively pretty active (besides sangwon, sanggyun, gohn, jenissi).
Also, to the comments about minsungs sexuality, he is not asexual or aromantic. He has asked people to stop talking about his sexuality. Do not call him queer, as he obviously regrets coming out
They also didn't mention their US tour either. I saw them in Houston, tx.
THIS SHOULD BE PINNED
Gohn is active on social media under the name clovdyallday
why does zico never liked kidoh or sangwon?
What happened to A-tom?
Glad that 2 of the members have just recently become active on screen again and gaining massive attraction...just on another dimension though
Oh, yes. I'm also glad. 😭
which members?
@@haru-10th i will not discuss that information here. there's a reason why they chose that career to protect themselves.
@@pinkheart0108 fair enough. i hope they can find their inner peace and happiness.
For real and i was really shocked when i found out
ToppDogg was one of my first ult groups they had so much potential and deserved better
topp dogg my poor meow meows... they had so much potential... sometimes when i hear current boygroup songs i think that if stardom/hunus hadn't completely ruined everything they would be a topp (haha) group right now
I'm surprised you didn't mention Minsung's coming out. For those who are curious, Minsung came out as asexual (and later aromantic) during a livestream in 2017, shortly before his departure. And yes, that's why I discovered this group lol.
Oh I didn't know that :o
I'm an aromantic asexual too so idk i'm kinda glad that he spoke about it that's great ^^
@@Cha_t exactly, I felt represented UwU
@@fray4life407 yes ! 👍🏻🙏🏼
Omg i remember i searched (expecting nothing) ace or aro idols and found his live and i was shocked and so happy
Minsung isnt asexual anymore, he asked people to stop talking about it
I love ToppDogg so much, they were incredibly talented, as many groups with awful management. I specially miss Jenissi, his rapping style was very unique but he has vanished from social media and music 😭
I watched them fall apart slowly. they deserved SO much more. they were truly amazing.
toppdogg was basically what got me into kpop and I will always be angry at chode pd for his horrendous mismanagement/mistreatment of not only them, but every other one of the groups that were under his care. he lied and lied and LIED to all of the young and talented people he ensnared within contracts and then wasted their amazing potential while grossly under/not paying them for years. even when he stepped down as ceo, there was no way to recover from all the damage done.
I'm glad to hear someone talk about these boys. I really loved toppdogg, and xeno-t could have maybe even had SOMETHING, but all they did was give them one Japanese debut and then never tried anything ever again. I hope all the boys are doing well. I still follow all the ones who are still pursuing music/dance. although some of them have...less than savory company and behaviors...i will not deny they all had incredible talent and I still wonder what would have become of them as a group had they been able to prosper well together.
i CANT get over the fact the company made the members vote for each other for see who would left the group
this happened in ygtb treasaure as well
Same for Chen exo
I followed them from beginning to end, and closely checked up on their activities/news with each member/former member as it went by. This is memories to me! Seeing all this reminded me of how much I miss them, and how sad their treatment was. They had so much potential 😩
Doomed from the start is always the description I hear given to Topp Dogg, and sadly, it's perfectly accurate. Stardom/Hunus had no clue what they were doing with this group. Going from a planned 6 to a whopping 13 members just to media play them to actual popular groups, set their fate imo. The numerous different subunits they planned was like NCT on steroids and did them no favors. And the constant releases and blowing their already small budget on a billion different things just messed them up. They clearly just hoped Topp Dogg would just become popular through thin air and when that didn't happen and members started dropping like flies, they basically gave up on them. Being a Topp Klass was so painful that I had to leave during the survival show era of Xeno-T. I'm at least glad to hear that many of the guys are doing better now.
They were so talented wow
your channel is like a beacon on forgotten k-pop culture, i love it
I discovered ToppDogg way back when UA-camr Megan Bowen Moon released a couple of videos interviewing and playing games with the members. It was the 9 at the time. I was hooked on them ever since. So much talent and they went through so much. Many members who left the group are still thriving on their own, and the handful left still have the fanbase behind them. I would LOVE to see a re-debut of Xeno-T.
They were all so talented, the rap line was great and they had AMAZING dancers. It's so unfortunate that they couldn't become famous... They really deserved it.
Seogoong's experience with the rest of the members is disheartening and most of all, unnecessary.
The fact that they allowed an *in person voting* to take place to essentially kick him out with no hesitation. That's even worse than voting against a member behind the scenes. Its immature and petty. With instances like this, its best for that one member to leave on their own terms or the company itself goes about with the termination.
bjoo is very talented, He caught my eye in The unit
Especially for the song that goes "내꺼 내꺼 내꺼 넌
, 넌 내꺼 내꺼 넌/Mine, mine, mine
, You’re mine" super cute and he seemed to have so much fun with it!
he's such a good dancer and has the cutest sweetest voice when singing. i stan that boy
wayyy too many people are talking about minsungs coming out that he has since retracted bc he doesnt want to specify his sexuality… anyways,, theres so much more that happened to them and even though i feel negatively towards some of the members now, i still wish they hadnt had to go through all this idk
i was hoping for a video on toppdogg! they were my number one group for the longest time and they could have been so huge if not everything was against them. they deserved so much better and i would like to thank you for talking about them so more people get to know about them and their story!
im so excited for this video, when i first got into kpop i adored topp dogg :((
Truly one of the most underrated groups in Kpop imho. Annie is still one of my top favorite Kpop songs to this day. It really is such a shame that their management screwed them over like that.
Why do they make boy groups so complicated? I got lost with the Underdog thing…
I didn’t know Xeno-T existed.
ahh i used to love toppdogg so much, my favourite members were bjoo and minsung, but moreso minsung due to how cheerful his personality seemed. sadly he's gone through a lot of trauma since being an idol, it makes me so sad hearing about those days, but i'm glad he's doing well and being who he really is. (when he came out as aroace i also considered myself aroace at the time, which made me not only proud of him but confident in myself)
i'm so happy that you made a video on them !! my sister introduced them to me many years ago and i'm so upset about what happened with them :(
Topp Dogg didn't deserve this, All Kill was so fun to watch, Topp Dogg forever TT^TT
Thanks for the video! Great as always!!
This video brought back so much memories i kinda forgot about tp but once you showed the members a wave of emotion rushed over me and all the memories:')
the beat is still one of my favorite eps in kpop and toppdogg will probably forever remain my favorite group! they were such a full package of a group
i’m so thankful to topp dogg. i met one of my best friends because of them and it breaks my heart knowing all the hardships the members have faced :(
My Toppklass heart always breaking knowing if they only debut this year or early as 3rd gen they might have the Popularity they deserve. ToppDogg is ahead of their time :(
I don't know about these groups, but Hunus really mismanaged their artists. They deserved so much better than Hunus.
Hunus has Elris who debuted in 2018 and all of these groups never made it hugely big
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore i was so invested in both elris and topp dogg's debut, they had really good kickstarts in the industry and then years later completely disappeared from public. now that i know they're under the same company it wasn't all that surprising
I am surprised you didn't mention that Hansol, back in 2018, attempted su*cide and on his Instagram he showed how severely depressed he was and talked often about wanting to end his life (there are articles up if you search his name). A lot fans were shaken up at the time with departure of lovely shinee member, took to his Instagram comments, dms, letters and emails to send love and support. Hopefully he is better now. But at the time we all know how much it was his agency's fault.
The first group I ever stanned. I grew out of kpop a few years ago but these boys and their music still hold a special place in my heart. Hope they’re all doing alright. They deserved so much better.
I love ToppDogg 🥺 my bias was jenissi, I have the beat and cigarette albums and I treasure them so much
If they're gonna reunited, I will support them, I just really like them as a group, as an individual
They are so insanely talented. They all deserved better. I use to love their music but the problems made it hard to keep track on them. But it's nice to know they are doing well
The story of Toppdogg is a very sad one and a whole mess. As for their subunits, it is as if they didn't exist. Ity's sad as I really loved Toppdoggs discography.
i was literally just listening to one of their songs from my kpop throwback playlist and saw this video pop up omggggg
Is no one gonna talk about how some of the topp dogg members were being xenophobic to the Chinese members??
they were one of the first groups I got to know back in 2014. its so annoying that once again the company ruined a group with so much potential and its sad that they struggled so much behind the scenes
Really really thank you for talking about them! 💕
It makes me so sad and angry to see that they were never fully recognized as they deserved.
The worst part is that there are lots of groups that are even more underrated and unfamiliar to kpopers,netizens and fans.
I think that they're part of the groups that had a song that maked them "famous" and they were forgotten (Speed, Madtown, History, C-Clown, Uniq, Boys Republic, 24K.. And the list could go on and on...)
As a Toppklass I couldn't help to feel sad to see they stayed on that horrible agency, but Toppklass will always support them in all they decide to do.
I miss my 13 boys and the subunit members, Underdogg, Toppdogg G...
But hopefully, this video reach many people so they see their amazing skills and voices.
I love your chanel, your voice is so calming and the quality in every video is outstanding!
You're so cool, I hope to continue seeing this stories.
I miss them so much... they deserved better :(
ToppDogg was my ultimate favorite group along with EXO and I wish they hadn't gone through this, they had so much potential
This group is the reason i started listening to kpop. I found my ult groups and had the best time of my life. now with all my ult groups (izone, wannaone and got7 kinda) having already disbanded, i still wait for xeno-t to come back some day. thank u so much for this video🙌🏻
Topp Dogg I remember them!
I am here just to let my TK heart break again. It's been so many years and I still missing them asi did so many years in the past. I wish they appear again and show the world what they missed back then.
i was a huge td stan back in the day and pretty much until the very end. you could tell by the beat era that the group was split internally…. in my opinion between the “good” members and the “bad” members.
so much shit went down behind the scenes, over half of the group did ridiculous things. racism, mistreating fans, grooming and being a p*do, abandoning their kids… so much shit.
most specifically the mistreatment of leon (the chinese member of the subunit) by seogoong, kidoh’s racism and nakta’s colourism/grooming issues. oop. 🤭
sangdo will forever be my fav in all of kpop though. yano, xero, b-joo, gohn, minsol and hojoon, i wish you a long life with success in whatever you desire.
if anyone’s curious or has more questions lemme know, i still have so much of this shit in my brain. 5 years dedicated to them and being in the depths of toppklass it’s hard to forget LOL
Wait wait wait grooming and racism allegations? I was a TD stan from 2016-2019 and never heard about this, pls fill me in?
Please fill me up about all those controversies... Never heard of them! It seems like the more I look into TD the worse it gets 😩😩
Wait, did bjoo and yano safe from the controversy? Since bjoo just join peak time?
grooming?? can you provide more info?
@@travelerscramine3828bjoo and yano are safe. they were unproblematic.
Topp Dogg was my first ult group as well as Elris you have no idea how happy i was when I got this notification From one of my favourite channels
Can you make a video about Dae Guk Nam Ah or DGNA (they also go by The Boss or Daikoku Danji in Japan). They were a 5 member boy group that debuted in 2010 with the song Admiring Boy. The members previously came from a group called XING. The group hasn't made or promoted music together since 2017, and in 2018 their leader Mika left and each member has since been working on their own personal careers. I don't believe they ever personally stated that the group had disbanded, but being that they haven't been active as a group in a while, I can only guess that they may as well be disbanded. All of the members still seem pretty close and continue to support each other in their solo endeavors. Going back to Daikoku Danji, the name they used when promoting in Japan, they seemed to have had a decent career in Japan as they've made more Japanese music and seemed to spend more time focusing on their Japanese promotions. The CEO of their previous company came under fire after it came out that he had been s**ually as*ault*ng trainees, causing the company to close down and DGNA signing with a new company. DGNA is one of my favorite boy groups and I continue to follow them and support them as time goes on. While together, the boys were a talented group that I felt were very underrated -- either due to lack of promotions or because they came from a smaller company(?) -- and I wish more people knew of them and their music. Idk if you'll see this comment or if others will notice it, but it'd be amazing to see DGNA being talked about so they could get the recognition they deserved. (And to talk about the unfortunate situation causing the downfall of their company, leading them and labelmates such as X-5 to leave).
I still remember their debut and then their composer fight concept. They had so much potential but too bad their company sucks
Did you know Kidoh was originally a trainee on BigHit? He used to be close friends with Jin
Toppdogg were the ones that got me into kpop, I hope they come back and give us new music, but only if they're in a healthier environment.
This gave me way more insight on why this disbanded, Thank You.
How block b survived this stupid company is astounding
thank you so much for covering these small groups 💞 I appreciate you!
This is another top tier video 🤧
*patiently waiting for content about UKISS* 🥺
i loved ATOM (sanggyun) in pd101 s2. i've been his fan since 2015.
Man I was a huge topp dogg fan. They were so talented and had so much potential. Shame that they got treated like shit
omg HE'S HLB?!
Since he's involved in the making of some of ATEEZ's songs, he's part of Eden-ary. They are producers who make ATEEZ's songs. In his reaction to Eternal Sunshine he confirms that he's part of KQ Ent.
My two favorite groups TnT
Bruh I didn't know Elris was under the same label as them, no reason why they are mismanaged 😩
Thank you for this video! I recommend you to also talk about Elris 🥰
I still own and wear my 5-year-old Topp Dogg hoodie, it has Nakta’s name on it :,)
I hope They Come back As A 13 Member Group With All Original Members that debuted in Topp Dogg
It's so interesting that these Topp Dogg videos never mention how Kidoh trained with BTS and was very good friends with Namjoon or did I just hallucinate all of that years ago 🧐
no they were friends and kidoh was supposed to debut with bts!
Still crying over #kimseokjinhyosang. They're used to be the best of besties and now it's just gone like a weird fever dream.
Kidoh is originally in BTS original lineup along with RM
It def happened, and Kidoh was close with Seokjin too. They were like attached to the hip and then somewhere in 2014 or 15 (?) they never mentioned one another again.
if toppdogg also debut in this time , They will be lit for sure. I miss these boys, I was with them since debut so up until now, it still hurts me
Xeno-T disbanded
Their biggest flaw was treating the members as disposable and playing around with them too much. They could have been a modern EXO. They reminded me of early BTS and that became nothing
*This could probably be the most unrelated comment* . I never was a fan or knew any song of ToppDogg but have any of yall read "Lookism" on WEBTOON? Basically the concept, style and some of the members remind me of Johan Seong from the WEBTOON (probably because of his aggressive character, similar hairstyle and of course him being the leader of God DOG). What I'm tryna say is if he decided to make a K-pop group that would probably be it lmao.
Now kinda related, whenever I did come across ToppDogg they seemed like such a talented and interesting group with great potential. I'm going to try and listen to their discography because I think it may be worth it :) *Thank you Midnight Theories for reminding me of ToppDogg and your amazing content in general
I love Lookism lol
Such a sad end to this group :(
Arario is forever one of my favourite kpop songs! They could be so famous (maybe as famous as BTS) but sadly Stardom is a piece of garbage and destroyed everything. The concept was so good and the mixture of traditional korean music and typical pop music sooo refreshing… it’s pretty sad.
Btw Hansol is now teaching in a dance school in Seoul and looks so happy - you can watch his dance videos an UA-cam. He’s one of the kindest people ever and I wish him all the best! 🦋🦋🦋
Wasn't Kiddo a former trainee of BH that was supposed to debut with rapline for the hiphop group planned but left for some reason (idk haha)
Sad..they were my favourite back then..what got me back into kpop (sorta). Their songs are catchy and nice
We all need demand Hunus for a comeback. Go to the newest video posted and demand it or we will never be heard.
I miss them... they were done so dirty :((
The video is perfect as always, girl you are super talented, would that be asking too much for a video about dreamcatcher and her lore?
One of my fave groups 😭
Found this after thinking abt Arario… I’ll never not have some very special feelings for stardom/hunus
I'll never ever forgive hunus for ruining ToppDogg's career 😠
I always blame Stardom for this but since Seogoong statement, kinda understand why they didn't succeed. They treat each other badly.. but personally i still love their songs
And nakta is a writer for produce101 jp - another day?! 👁️👄👁️
Hunus really fuck up my fav group , EVOL . Eversince that I hated Hunus forever , topdogg also had such a bad management . Elris... Was a pity , I really hope they would be EvoL 2.0 , but it's hunus . What do we even expect .
Like the name EvoL was so pretty , While the company is a sh*t
Yeah Elris are most likely disbanded
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore ELRIS fortunately changed company, so now they have a chance to save their career
@@mariadiallo5786 yep I know I’m so happy
I miss them though 😭
Is it true the groupmates hated each other? I dont know almost nothing about them except the songs
And didnt they know that the company was being sued by BlockB???
I think they didn't hate each other per say, it's more, a thirteen teen guys with very different personalities living in a dorm together all the time, they probably didn't have much time to actually get to know each other fully, since they were working so much and having to live together, eat together, train together, get under each others feet and on each others nerves.... can be too much.
Sometimes just because on group is suing doesn't mean the company is all bad but I would have taken it as a red flag but then again I am a fan of B.A.P and felt bad for sonAmoo and TRCNG... since well we know how that went... (sonAmoo debuted because of the lawsuit B.A.P had with the company and then TRCNG was mistreated even more so then any other group that we know of in that company.)
it makes me feel sick that chopd is attempting to make another group right now given the track record.
does anyone know xero’s youtube channel name/streamer name?? 😭 he was my ult bias and i have no idea what happened to him
Commenting to know too
i wanna know too 😭
@laysrightdimple3442 @claricedepetriz his channels are @tvv3710 and @rlaxorkd
Park hyunho's song is good tho-
sanggyun got a second chance with PD101 (ranked 26th) and JBJ.... i hope the others are doing well :')
I'm familiar with the group name, too bad they didn't make it :/
star road ent is the one with the crazy dance teacher in that documentary with the foreign trainee, right? O_O
I was a Topp Klass, but if I can being honest, I really hate their Annie era. At that time (during the Annie era), I thought they act like they've been in industry for 10 years, when in fact they're just a year old group. Their company trying too hard to make them "look" famous.
i am topppdoggs biggest fan...... i am sooo sad :()
seogoong!!
I miss them so much '
i notice that the groups that are good and with potential have a shitty management
early for once hbbb