Murder by Mail: Roland Burnham Molineux, 1899, by Mark John Maguire
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2021
- The case of Roland Molineux is an important one in US law because it gave rise to the "Molineux Rule" - the principle that evidence may only be heard if it pertains directly to the crime of which the defendant is accused. In other words, evidence of past crimes or other crimes are inadmissible. This principle is one widely established in Western legal systems - although a case in Britain during this same period (that of George Joseph Smith), offers a contrast with the approach taken in the US. The approach taken in the US is, in my opinion, a sound one - although it certainly contributed to a man getting away with at least 2 murders...
Mark John Maguire
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You're welcome - thank you, Kari!
You my friend have the right idea!!!🙏👍🥃👻❣️
In my modern thought process I was astonished anyone would take medicine received anonymously through the mail.
I know! I couldn’t believe that, either. And not just 1 household took it, but at least, 2!!🤯. Wouldn’t Cornish have heard about the death of the other man? He was on the board of the club & the man died there. He should’ve been suspicious of that anonymous “gift”.
Wow! This was a ride! I cannot understand how the justices made that decision. With or without the Barnet info, it was plainly clear that Mollie was the murderer! And not only are they fully responsible for any crime he may have committed after their decision, but every other evil criminal that has gotten off in the years since! In most cases their decision might be true, but not in this one. They were wrong & I question their reasons for making that decision. Did they have any connection at all with Mollineaux’s father?🤔
Whew! You’ve really got me heated in this one, Mark😂! Thank you so much for your presentation! Stellar!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I had the same reaction. Then the doctor tried some.... Seriously? You'd think a doctor of all people would know better.. or at least you'd hope so...
Don't be so hasty! When I'm not licking plug sockets or Jay walking, I spend most every walking moment ingesting mystery substances, particularly those arriving without exception via the mail.
Did anyone else stumble across this channel and now is totally addictive ♥️👏🏼✌🏻
A little while ago, but absolutely and right away!
Total addiction now. Wait with anxious anticipation to see what comes up next for our delectation.
Yes! Watch them umpteen times.👍🇬🇧
@@addie_is_me lucky you 👍🏼I’ve watched them all since yesterday amongst doing other things !! I now have a void in my heart 🥲
@@suedavenport7793 emm what ever will it be , as my void is getting increasingly wider
I'm always amazed when people eat/drink things that come in parcels sent anonymously. There are so many criminal cases involving dubious parcels, and yet...
“A child’s nursery rhyme of the cumulative variety”. I wish there was another like button for that phrase alone.
It would have been a good nursery rhyme too. If i wasn't french i'd try to write it...
Hip, hip, hooray! My day just got better. Nice to see you back Mark. ❤️
Thank you very much!
Imagine how many people got away with a crime when poison was so freely available? They all met the ultimate judge.
Hooray!!! Going to settle in happily, and listen now.. So glad to have you back!🌼🌸😎
You did, Peri! I am working backwards on comments! :)
My favorite story teller. I love listening to these🙂
That's nice to hear - thank you!
And we are never interrupted or infected by bloody boring you tube ads.
Don't speak too soon. UA-cam is putting ads on non -partnered channels.
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How unbelievably awful. Tim Berners Lee gave this knowledge for free!
Indeed - I dislike the idea of adverts intensely. It interrupts the flow, but I have been informed by youtube that from 1st June it is a possibility... So far there has been nothing, I think...
Thank you so very much for your new offering. It is, as always, brilliant!!
Thank you! :)
I find the presentation of your crime tales so interesting and brilliantly told. My day is so much more fulfilled listening to your work.
Thank you very much, Jennifer!
Fascinating and, as always, delivered with the spellbinding, quiet gravity, which gives it more drama than all the bells and whistles imaginable
Thank you very much!
What a start to my mid morning 🙂🙂love this guy, got the best voice ever . could listen to him all day as sometimes I do seen most of the videos but when I want to relax and listen to a good case I put him on, such a delight 🖐🖐🖐🖐🖐☺☺☺☺
Many thanks - I am glad it relaxes you!
fun fact: George Gordon Battle, one of Molineux's attorneys in his first trial, was the namesake of George Gordon Battle Liddy, one of the central figures in the Watergate scandal. Liddy's father during his younger days became a protege of the elder Battle in his later years, and he idolized him so much he named his son after his mentor.
I always wonder about myself that I am so fascinated with the darker side of life. 350 likes so far tells me I am not alone though! As soon as I see the notification, I can't wait to listen! Thanks again Mark!
It is a curious fascination, isn't it? No - you are not alone! In the age of these crimes, tea and murder on a Sunday afternoon was a respectable pastime, I think! Many thanks.
Who tf would just credulously eat/drink something sent to them anonymously through the mail???
Different times man.
Perfect timing for this one Mark. I so needed a break and what a perfect distraction. I'm sure that this too will be a diamond just as all your past videos have been. Many thanks. 🙋🏼♀️🥂
Thank you, Kelly!
Clever chap you’ve done it again!
Thank you, Jonathan!
Mr. Maguire I can't believe that a network or Netflix or Amazon has not found you yet. Just imagine what you could do with a budget. You could take us to any of the locations that still exist. Interview families that may have relics or family accounts. You are awesome just the way you are but you deserve a much larger audience.
You are very kind - thank you! :)
agreed. Please get in touch with Netflix.
I agree too. Some TV channel is missing a trick. You're way better than some who have had series'.
I agree too
@@amandayoung8615absolutely right
Hell yea. Missed you. This made my day. Cant wait to listen to it everyday for about a week
I replay them as well!😃
When I can't sleep he's my go too. Such a soothing voice.
@@irishcoffeetruecrime omg me too. Its a bad habit because when the video is over you wake up
Lol you too? Soothing, informative and compelling. Best is when I can doze off.
@@sendhelp6537 and I'm like super obsessed with Victorian murder mysteries so it's got the whole package
Great story telling as always. I always get a kick out of hearing my hometown of Sioux Falls mentioned, even if it is for dubious reasons. 😬
Many thanks!
Oh thank goodness, I have your playlist on every night to fall asleep to, your voice is so soothing even when the subject matter isn't. Happy to have a new story to listen to.
You're welcome - nice to hear!
Brilliant as always, in a class of its own.
Very nice of you to say so, Claire - thank you!
These are my favourite crime videos. So well researched and narrated. Thank you
Thank you, Jo!
Oh, what a glorious surprise. Superb as always, Mr. Maguire. This is the best channel on UA-cam!
What a lovely comment - many thanks indeed, Sue!
Oh happy day! Thank you so much, can't wait until my husband wakes up so that we can watch this together! Thrilling treat; we have enjoyed your channel, our favourite. Great way to start a ho-hum Tuesday, thanks again! 🥂
Ah - thank you! Very best wishes to you both! :)
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A gifted storyteller with an exquisite speaking voice. I can't tell you how delighted I am to see another video from you appear in my notifications!
Thank you very much indeed, Patrick!
Another excellent video; many thanks for taking the time to create it. One brief thought: a doctor saw two people poisoned and then decided to try the contents of the suspicious bottle himself! He must have been the worst doctor in America.
Many thanks, Michael. A different age for doctors - I think... Or hope!
I’ve been eagerly awaiting the results of your most recent work. As always, I was not disappointed. Thank you Mr. Maguire.
With great respect,
🇺🇸Grandpa🇺🇸
Thank you - I am glad you liked it!
Doctor: “Although the label says Bromo-Seltzer, the stuff in this bottle smells like cyanide, and.the last two people to taste it both became desperately ill immediately. Hmmm ... I guess I’d better try it myself.”
Ya gotta love that Victorian-era medical thinking.
Is there a medical equivalent of “Keystone Kop”?
The drought has ended--thank you for another great video.
Another first class presentation. This channel never disappoints.
Thank you, Tom!
Thank you once again for an extremely captivating exploration of a notorious New York City murder in the 1890s, Mark! This was worth the wait. As I can see, the geographic area of your documentaries expanded. It is no longer enough for you the British mysterious murders and you are already interested in American crime cases. As always, your documentaries underscore your higher-order thinking and literary skills and your great intuition. Bringing to life merciless cyanide killings, in the hands of a writer as gifted as you, became a fascinating crime story. It is also worth noting that, in addition to legal proceedings and gathering your own evidence, you have answered an intriguing question: what motives could drive the wealthy, handsome man of a distinguished New York family to murder?
I can not deny my weakness in connection with the fact that for some reason I am sorry for him, especially after your words: '' they possessed what he had not .. '' Though, it does not mean my approval. ;)
Thank you very much indeed, Madonna - it is very kind of you to make your erudite observation on my efforts!
I always thought the practice of not allowing a defendant’s past history of crime into court was stupid, the fact that the first ever time it was used it set a guilty man free just proves it in my opinion. Context is everything
I gave a thumbs up because so often in court cases the prior crime history of defendant is important ie. "He was found guilty of raping 7 other women over the course of 5 years. Should we not believe this young rape victim's testimony he raped her?" However, I do understand how it could be used to railroad someone who is innocent ie. "He was found guilty of many robberies, thus why shouldn't we believe he has done it again? A witness said he did."
I agree with you Barbara due to the numerous court appearances I needed to attend to prove that I had been victimised. On the last date the judge agreed my case, and asked were there any previous convictions....after 10 violent offences were read out, said they didnt want to hear anymore🙄
Of course there was an appeal, the criminal knows their rights😂 (did not show up for their appeal and waste any more tax payer's money at least💜
Wow, what a significant case and its impact on the U.S. judicial system. And very interesting the contrast with Britain. I feel like it should be taught with U.S. legal history....maybe it is!?
Well done. Glad to have you back.
Thank you very much, Pat.
Saw this new entry with real pleasure; it’s been awhile. Your soothing voice telling these horrific stories is such a treat. This story shows, as yours often do, that nothing much had changed in the past hundred years. And probably never will. Money and influence. Thank you!
Many thanks indeed, for your kind words - I agree with you!
Who needs Sherlock!?...when we have Mark Maguire! Thank you for sharing your gifts with us!
That was truly one of the best. I was completely absorbed and fascinated. Thank you for the best hour I've spent all week! You have an amazing ability to transport us to time and place of the crime. Thank you!!❤
A lovely comment - thank you indeed, Jan!
Great timing as I could use a distraction today ❤️ thank you! Xx
That first doctor clearly went to the Sherlock Holmes school of scientific testing. Thank you, Mark for another excellent video. Been waiting patiently for another upload. X
You're welcome - many thanks. Another one should be ready for tomorrow.
My dear chap you really are a genius when it comes to story telling. The way you bring it all together. I love listening to your voice! Please keep it going. You are an awesome chap.
I can't believe everyone just kept tasting the Very Obvious Cyanide Medicine.
At approximately 2:30 into the story, I loved the nursery rhyme analogy! Such a descriptive turn of phrase. Sir, you are wonderful speaker. If you are not now in radio, you should be!
You are very kind to say so - thank you, Teri!
Thanks so much. I love the level of research and your delivery. Excellent.
Many thanks indeed, Sandra.
‘....a child’s nursery rhyme of the cumulative variety...’ I had to laugh. Not sure swallowing anything smelling of bitter almonds is ever a sensible thing to do, let alone when the body count is climbing. Beautifully narrated and researched storytelling as always.
Thank you very much!
Laugh, I did also...quit tasting the liquid!!!🙏👍😎
Yes! as always I'm delighted you are back. Thank you so much for all your hard work 😉
Many thanks indeed - you are most welcome!
I am so glad to see you back here again! Molineux really was a piece of work. I am happily settled for the next fifty minutes. Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you again for these amazing historical stories and you impeccable narration.
You are welcome - thank you, David.
I had been drumming my fingers for a new case from you. Again, you haven't disappointed. Your melifluous voice and painstaking attention to detail are, in my view, unsurpassed. Thank you. I'm going to watch it all over again now
How nice - thank you very much, Steph!
And thank you. If one has to tolerate intolerable ads, so be it. Please, please keep weaving your magical, factual accounts. My love for all of them is beyond words.
Goody, goody! My day is always brightened when Mark posts a new one. Never thought I'd be giddy with anticipation about a murder... the historical aspect allows me to be sans guilt.
Saw this this morning and knew what I'd be doing tonight. Haven't watched it yet; not dark enough outside. I'm sure it won't disappoint. I hope we have a thunderstorm!
Thank you - I hope it was satisfactory!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder More than satisfactory 👏🏻
All the research!
All the work.
I applaud Mark also for his superb linguistics and appealing voice.
Thank you
I have subscribed.
Amen.
Once again, a superb telling. Thank you so very much Mr. Maguire.
Thank you, Merrie!
Excellent installment, Mr. Maguire! Interesting people would receive pharmaceuticals anonymously in the mail...and take them! Let that be a lesson to you.
I agree - thank you Mrs Harmeyer.
Yay! I was just last night going through your back catalogue, trying to find one I haven't watched a dozen times already and now I have a guaranteed great new bedtime story to watch later. Thank you so much Mark. Cheers!
You're welcome, Jackie - many thanks for your kind comment!
Yes! Another video from TGAWM. I love these and look forward to them. Thank you!
Thank you!
"resembling a child's nursery rhyme of the cumulative variety" Brilliant! 😂 Love your videos 💖
"Taste this... Does it taste funny to you?"
"Okay..."
"Sure..."
"I can do that..."
Oof! -It's a head-slapper.
The slapstick atmosphere is complete if indeed the doctor detected cyanide from the almond scent before tasting.
I thought that was an absolutely perfect way of describing that sad comedic tragedy.
Ppp
Thank you, Bea!
I only found these last night and am addicted!! They were meant to listen to as I fall asleep…..kinda didn’t work as I got too involved in the stories.
At 2:29 Doctor Hitchcock smelled the scent of bitter almonds he recognized as Cyanide. But tasted anyway?! Not too smart Doctor I would say ! This was very engrossing and entertaining. Thank's Mr. Maguire for another excellent presentation. I and many other's enjoy your work !
Thank you very much indeed, Sonny!
HE'S BACK, HE'S BAD, HE'S NARRATING MAD!!!!!
Another masterpiece sir! Made my day being able to settle down and watch this superb account of a murderer I now loathe. Excellent stuff, more please! Xx
In the pipeline, Heather!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Hurrah!!! 😃
Some years ago I was an alternate juror here in New York. A young tourist had been shot and killed when a Chinatown gang fight broke out. All the original jurors made it into deliberation, so I was released when the court case wrapped up. It was then that I discovered the suspect's gang connections had been withheld from the trial. I had been sitting on the fence in my own mind whether or not he was guilty, but when I heard about his background I switched to guilty. - He got off.
You Sir, have a great gift for storytelling. I was fully engrossed from beginning to end.
Glad you enjoyed it, Allison - thank you!
So excited to see a new episode! Will be keeping this for a special treat 😃♥️
Most splendid Sir. Many thanks for your selfless hard work, again.
You're welcome - thank you, Steve!
A fantastic piece of work John, well researched, and again extremely expertly narrated. I look forward to you tales, with baited breath, welll done.
Thank you very much, Graham.
Now I understand why, it was so long in coming. The research was outstanding, with out doubt, this is the best. Mark you certainly have out done yourself. Thank you 😊 💓. I am going to watch again right away,but with tea and biscuits.
I am so glad you liked it, Rusty - thank you!
The narrators voice is so awesome. It really paints a picture.
Yes ..Love his voice,and yes it really does...
Thank you, Lourdes!
That is what really got me hooked on that show... sorry , youtube channel...
Liked and shared to other platforms 👍 I really enjoyed the complexity of this case and the juxtaposition to the body in the bath outcomes in which laws were changed for the belief in fairness at trials. Wow what a start though! Is it bad I laughed at the silliness of the first doctor and thought that was it...3 murders in a minute of listening but always more to people than what is first perceived. Brilliant research for writing and narrating Mark. Another fantastic journey into past cases and how your ability to tell their stories can help transfer me back to a period in history and understand the social aspects around the subject.
Nice to hear from Highland Girl! Thank you very much indeed!
so a murder getting away with it, set the stage for millions of other criminals getting away with it.
poetic.
Most underrated channel!
Thank you, Ms Kelly!
Haven’t even listened yet but I’m already delighted to see an upload for you 🙌🏼
Absolutely impeccable narration 💐
Thank you.
I think the end synopsis was so eloquent, the scope of who and what Molineaux really was -- an in-depth psychoanalysis as it were, was so brilliantly written. This channel is expertly written and produced. How I love the use of the English language by those who can speak it properly as is done here.
Agree 100%. English is an expressive and flexible language but nowadays I seldom hear it used properly on television (or radio for that matter). They could learn by listening to this channel!
@@zaygezunt The language has been dumbed down to virtual gibberish and guttural utterings and baby level speak. English as a language possesses the most license, freedoms, nuance and has given rise to extraordinary achievements in literature, law, arts. Someone who can use the language to it's fullest extent might be considered a "white supremacist" and those of us who can speak and write as men of any race in proper English are attacked by the actual supremacists who have all the money and who have rigged education into idiot-land.
@@billkarmetsky4003 Again, I agree. Those who cannot speak or write English properly are unable to articulate grievances and injustices, they remain at the bottom of society. One has only to read (or try to read) the comments on UA-cam to realise they are unintelligible. In addition, we have 'textspeak' and, of course, the inability to write on paper. Grammar is now considered too hard to master and punctuation, particularly the use of apostrophes, is dire. We must keep to the Churchill tradition; “He mobilized the English language and sent it into battle.”
Lovely comment, Bill - thank you very much indeed!
Beautifully written and present! Will play again and again, just like all your other essays!
You're very kind - many thanks, Adrian!
“She had two ambitions: one was to become a famous opera singer, the other was to lose her maidenly virtue. She achieved one of these.” 🙌😂♥️
You have so much talent ...No joking at all when I say this..You should have your own tv show,and not the cheap ones we all have seen..I mean a good quality one ..You have that touch that keeps someone wanting to hear more...
What Rachael said!
So kind - thank you!
Don't take this the wrong way, but I have listened to your programs and think they are wonderful. When I am going to sleep, I turn on your channel and have a great sleep. Your voice is great for sleeping.
I am quite happy with that - don't have nightmares, Dina - and thank you!
Marvellous ! Just the very best channel to listen to [ most especially on a gloomy day in May , when the atmosphere is perfect for hearing Mark telling his inimitable tales of crime ] 👌🏼
Thank you, Christine!
I had never heard of this case..what a media circus it was . Thanks again for another excellent video. Well worth the wait. 💀
You are most welcome - thank you!
Well worth waiting for! Excellence achieved with the sheer level of research that must have been done for this.
Perfectly presented as always. Thank You Mark for another intriguing case. Thoroughly enjoyed this 🙂
You are welcome - I am so glad you liked it!
Oh, a new episode! Fabulous :)
You were missed!! Welcome back!
Truth!
Thank you, Christine!
Thrilled to DEATH that you are back, Mark!!! Thank you,you really made my day!! LOVE your channel! Kim Li in CT.
Lovely! Thank you, Kim!
These are so well done, well researched, and precisely presented. Thank you for these great studies of character.
You are most welcome - many thanks!
Another thoughtful, excellent study of toxic privilege and its enduring consequences. Disturbing that wealth continues to insulate such evil people.
Oh happy day! Just have to hear those plangent opening notes and I know I am setting out on another amazing journey with my favourite story-teller! Thank you Mark.
You are welcome - thanks!
I have just listened again to this case, another wonderfully conveyed story by Mark Maguire. Top notch as usual with all the detail that I love! This was another instance of karma eventually catching up with the perpetrator who escaped justice through the legal system. As always, I am already hungry for the next one🙂👍
Many thanks, Andy - the next one should be ready in 2 days!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder That's great to hear, I shall be looking forward to that😊
This guy’s voice is a smooth as butter sprinkled with gravel. Fascinating.
Thank you, John!
You narrate the stories very well. You are a natural storyteller.
Many thanks indeed!
Always happy when I see that you have published another video. Thank you!💐
Thank you, Carina - another one tomorrow, I hope
As an ardent admirer of your work, I think you ought to be given TV airtime. Take note commissioning editors 😁
Thank you for your high quality content :)
You're very kind - thank you, Callie!
Another well investigated and very intriguing video, an absolute absorbing story , thank you 🙏 🇬🇧✌️
Yes "absorbing'
Many thanks, John!
I received this 16 hours after it went on line. Again, I thank you for producing yet another fantastic tale. I find the more I revisit your essays, the more vignettes can be discerned. You’re even influencing my prose. 😀 TYVM MJM
Oh that is a compliment, Peter - thank you!
I love it! The doctor, despite smelling the tell tell aroma of almonds, tried a little of the medicine himself. Poor chap.
Mark, many thanks for making a video from my suggestion many months ago. As influential the Molineux case has been it remains quite unknown to a lot of historical true crime fans. I suggest people also read Molineux's The Room with the Little Door. It's for free online and a short read if you are interested on his experiences while on death row.
regarding the book, I should add that while it won't blow your mind away, it has its flashes of wit and provides an insight on Molineux's sense of humor. Not all of his pretensions of gentility were for nought.
Thanks for the tip. I've bookmarked it and hope to read it at my leisure.
You are welcome, Zera - thank you for posting that about the book too!
Re: anonymous parcels, it was common at the time to send out advertising for new products that included free samples, or to leave samples on the doorstep. (Alongside the milk and bread delivered daily or several times in the week to the household, if the sample people got up early enough.)
Thank you. I wondered why two households would so easily accept and use anonymous gifts of medicine.
Yeah but anonymously? Really? I mean no pamphlet announcing that it was a sample and telling you where to buy. Would seem that it's bad advertising if they did it that way. Still cannot believe the level of stupidity in taking this.
I love the sketches, too!
I do, too!