The MOST Important Clone ARC Trooper! (Alpha-17)
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- The MOST Important Clone ARC Trooper! (Alpha-17)
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Gotta love Alpha-17. Not only did he train Rex, Cody, Bly, Fox, Gree and all of our other favorite commanders in his ARC Training Program, but he, like all Alpha ARCs, was almost entirely pure Jango in personality.
*Trained them in Legends
Clones who were introduced in TCW should not be mentioned in the EU. TCW completely goes against the Clone Wars Multimedia Project (and the Prequels).
@MandoMarsi I disagree. The first couple seasons of the Clone Wars fit alright with the CWMMP, and various early TCW novels (such as the Clone Wars novels written by Karen Traviss) fit very well with the old Legends Clone Wars.
@Ithoughthewasnigh I mean, Alpha-17 is a completely Legends character, so yes, he trained them in Legends. Although, the ARC Training Program that he created IS very much canon, so it's possible he'll be reintroduced to canon at some point
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 No. Ahsoka didn't exist. The 501st wasn't under Skywalker's command until Operation Knightfall. Anakin-Dooku/Obi Wan-Grievous weren't supposed to duel until ROTS. Mandalorians were completely different, Grievous wasn't a coward loser etc...
The Null arcs would have made a sweet story line in the Bad Batch. Imagine them and the Squad leading the Clone Revolt….
You never know. They could still make it so those Null Arcs where saved and brought to one of the moons of Mandalore. Bad batch could the recruit them maybe.
😂😂😂 Hell NO! The Filoni shows messed up so much that non of the Multimedia Project clones would fit.
It was an opinion. Only that.
Rex and Alphas names are very similar. Rex is Latin for king. So when you think about it both their names associate with some form of leader.
Very cool!
Wooooo Alpha 17 finally getting some love like he deserves
I feel like Rex and Alpha would butt heads a lot in the field. On the other side, Rex and Fordo would probably be competing.
I miss Alpha 17 and Alpha 77 Captain Fordo but they live on as 1/18, 1/12 and 1/6 scale custom 3D printed and hand painted figures on my shelf. Phase 1 and 2 Fordo was fun to paint since the phase one helmet had to be repainted 4 times because it wasn’t drying properly 😮. Great video by the way. Always pleasing to see my favorite Alpha’s get some respect 😊
That sounds badass. They're probably quite the sights to behold, you must be very proud. ;) Wish I had the creative talent to do the same. But alas, I'll just have to buy 'em instead, if I can even find them! Lol
hey you might also like the premium 1/18 collectors club we share alot of cool stuff on there
@@magiccustoms5205 🤩 that sounds awesome! I am going to look into that.
@@Darth-Nihilus1 sorry it's the premium 1/18 collectors hub my bad
@@Darth-Nihilus1 it's on Facebook and it's actually hub not club sorry
Hope to see a video on commander Bly, he's my second favorite clone trooper behind Rex and is in my opinion a vary tragic and misunderstood character
Extremely misunderstood indeed. People think Aayla was killed violently when Bly actually just wanted to make sure her death was as quick and painless as possible.
We covered Bly in this short: ua-cam.com/users/shorts-8G0EpiiGu4
Based on this video's title, and my putting two and two together, my (admittedly biased) vote goes to CT27-5555. Fives is the only trooper to unearth Order 66, have Palaptine at blaster point, and ultimately resulted in the saving of Rex, Ahsoka, Wolf, and several other key characters. Which, as another user pointed out, means that the Rebels show wouldn't have turned out as it did, and thus leading to a likely victory for the Empire.
I don't usually like to look at butterfly effects too closely, as events could be altered by other characters. That said, Fives discovery is the only reason that two of the most popular Star Wars characters are still alive and fighting. Fives definitely had many accolades in the Clone Wars, but the events in the 6th season of the Clone Wars elevate his status to an entirely new level.
RIP ARC-5555.
Alpha 17 didnt have an inhibitor chip. Non of the Null or Alpha gen Arcs did.
forget the chip
And Jango thought the Alphas will join the CIS or living a life as a Bounty Hunter.
+ Alphas gave a fuck about generic cannon fodder clones.
Before TCW there wasn't chips. It was mentioned in ATOC regular clones will always obey the orders basically sleeper agents for Palpatine and Plagueis. But the Null had freedom to chose even rebel. The Alpha ARC troopers are to be loyal to republic but also need that have some character like Jango himself to go against jedi plans and can disagree. I feel like Null and Alphas had more character depth than regular clones and commanders at the time.
Well based on your title, I would 110% agree that Alpha's the *most important clone ARC* trooper. Based on what you actually said however, *Single most important clone trooper ever,* I would then say it'd be Fives. There has actually been an argument for Fives in recent years and I gotta say, I have to agree with it. Fives is suuuper underrated and even today, with more love, support and recognition for him steadily increasing over time, it's still not nearly enough. Much like Rex, Alpha and some others, Fives was loyal and obedient but also wasn't afraid to question orders and stand up for what was truly right in his eyes. But unlike Rex, Alpha and pretty much every other clone out there, Fives also knew the truth behind Order 66 and became the clone who was THE closest to blowing the whole scandal wide open in front of the entire galaxy. Mans got the DIRECT attention of both Dooku and PALPATINE and that's saying a LOT. As far as we know today, no other clone matches Fives in that regard. And because of Fives, that's EXACTLY how both Ahsoka AND Rex survived Order 66! After all, Rex did say, with tears streaming down his eyes, to "Find him. Fives. Find him!" before he fully succumbed to the Order and proceeded to fire on Ahsoka. Both of them would've been DEAD without Fives. So, no Rebels and certainly no Ahsoka, as a result. Now as for if we want them to be separate characters or not, well they already are, aren't they? Like you said, Rex was one of the first 100 candidates to participate in the ARC program that was headed by Alpha himself. Alpha came from the OG special clone training program, which was the Alpha program. But then Rex later came from the ARC program, a step below. So, therefore, Rex and Alpha have been 2 separate characters since the beginning of TCW show, when the movie for that first debuted. So, they're already 2 different individuals, that's just facts and I love that. I'd love nothing more than for both Alpha and Rex to exist, of which they factually do, no matter if it's canon or legends! Would be interested to see how they'd work together, alongside Ani hehe.
I 100% agree with this. Fives had Palpatine had blaster point, before Shaak-Ti interfered. No other clone has ever come so close to ending the war, and yes: Rex and Ahsoka would NOT be alive if it wasn't for (my personal favorite) ARC-5555.
I agree as well, Fives was only seconds away from shattering Palpatines plan right infront of him. If he hadnt of died the events of the Original Trilogy and the Sequels may have never happened.
Ah yes, Alpha 17. The John 117 of Star Wars.
Can we just all agree that Red Five here just makes the best Star wars Clone content right now?
Bro amen to that. I can never get enough Clone anything my man. Absolutely dying for TBB to return and some movies, shows, games and books to come out focusing on nothing BUT the clones!! Animated or live action, I'll take them ALL.
Thank you so much!
Imagine Alpha in order 66 💀
He probably would have disobeyed the order like most of the other Alpha ARCs.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 No he wouldn't. He was loyal to the Republic.
@@MarsiB013 And? So were most Alpha ARCs, such as Maze and Muzzle, and yet they disobeyed and went AWOL during the rise of the Empire just the same.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 "Most ARCs" There were 100 Alphas and like a some of them went awol.
Maybe a 50/50 chance?
My headcanon for legends is Alpha 17 and Ventress became friends or something more and lived their days in the outer rim.
Most interesting video I've seen in a long time. Thank you for putting this together
Everyone knows Clone Trooper Sixes is the greatest clone ever. Even Baccara wanted to be him.
REX IS THE GOAT technically not the first but the most humane and good person
Rex will always be my GOAT, but Alpha will always be that guy to me.
I'm pretty sure the other ARC Troopers were as deadly and loyal to Jango as Aphla was, too bad we didn't get to see the other ones in action
“The Alpha! Now, we have a fight!”
- Drago Bludvist, How To Train Your Dragon 2
I like that one of the greatest clones of all time trained all of our favorite clones and prefer Alpha and Rex to be seperate
I thought it said "Better than sex" and technically its not wrong
Best
Comic series 🎉
I wish we got to see Alpha 17 in canon.
We might in the future.
Nope, he doesn't fit into the lame narrative of TCW and the Sad Batch.
@@MarsiB013facts
One of the badass clones to ever live
aaaayy the Homie finally get some love!
Would you mind listing the comic books that you got many of these stills from? I'd be very interested in reading. Thanks!
Alpha being retconned because his name began with an "A," Anakin's name began with an "A," and R2's name sounded like it began with an "A," is so damn stupid.
But, of course, the new character, Ahsoka Tano, got to keep her name, and Alpha was cut completely. Just change her name? Alpha came before her.
To this day, my feelings about Alpha not being in the show are mixed. Sometimes, I'm glad he's not canon because I don't want his stories from Legends to be altered or changed, but other times I think about what might have been had he been in the show.
Alpha is not only the ultimate ARC Trooper, in my opinion, but he's also, hands-down, my favorite clone and Star Wars character.
He is good, but Fordo was the original
4:10 I mean to be fair Anakin was just a padawan and a teen he wasnt strong at that time
Alpha-17 is insane he was only critically wounded Rex would be dead at that point from grevious
even before seing the full title of the video i knew about who it was
he looks so buff
Can you make a video of the first order Stormtrooper types and variants from episode 7-9and battlefront 2
Need one of those "save the City" generic war stories featuring Arc Captains/ commanders. "After many consecutive months of the front lines and skipping of assigned rest shore leave, several Arc captains are forced to take a vacation on a far away Vacation,resort, convention moon. Meanwhile, the local faction taking advantage of relaxed security plots to take over the resort prompting the captains back into action...."
I’m pretty sure alpha 17 and anikin are the reason clones have names
Alpha-17 was one of my favorite clone troopers always wished he would have been in the clone wars series
How does this man not have 1m subs? He’s a great UA-camr. 😁
My refusal to not have every part of Kotor in my head cannon makes me a legends fan by default.
He is a literal alpha male. What a guy
It wouldn't make sense if Rex(as Alpha) trained Cody and then Cody unranking Rex
So aside (not the same man/clone)
ALL Clones are just CHADS.
Captain Fordo 🐐
Alpha 17 and the NULL-ARCs were SO much better characters than Rex, Fives, Echo and all those cardboard-cutouts from TCW! -.- At least they had some kind of own personalities that went WAY deeper than just from "By the book!" to "Free-Thinker!" -.-
Nah just no I love alpha but Rex and fives are way better
@@Jedimaster-zb1xu they arent even characters! Name one difference between them. Rex is so fucking overrated
@@Cyro_2235 well for example Rex is way faster to follow orders then fives even if Rex know the orders are bad and fives think way more outside of the box
@@Jedimaster-zb1xu check my first comment again: from "By the book!" to "Free-Thinker!" THATS the entirety of the clones' character in TCW! Because Dave only writes Plot and not Characters. Face it: If Fives wasnt on Umbara it would have been Rex who doubted the orders and revolted by the end. There was no reason Rex stayed loyal to Krell for such a long time despite knowing better.
Besides, Rex got ARC training, wich involved free-thinking for much longer than Fives. If anyone would have made up his mind about Krell, it should have been Rex. But for the plot its irrelevant anyways.
Check the Legends Clones:
Ordo: Disliking the Republic, only taking Orders from Kal Skirata!
Atin: only running on revenge against his former instructor.
Darman: fell in love with a Jedi
Fi: feels lonely and left behind when his brothers get into relationships, but disguising is behind weird humor and jokes.
Sev: Lacking ANY social skills
Boss: Arrogant towards other Clone Commandos, thinking he'd be better.
Corr: thought his time was over, but gettin another chance among the RCs and ARCs during a black ops.
THOSE clones were deeply written! Not those cardboard cutouts from TCW!
@@Cyro_2235damn you kinda got a point to be fair I like both versions of the clone wars anyway the cwmm and the Dave Filoni clone wars
Recently splatoon has had some accessibility controversy also.
Sigma clone
There’s a theory that the trooper that you see that Obi-Wan Kenobi talks to and gives some money to, and the Obi Kenobi series is Alpha 17
commander Thorn of the 65th CG?
What comic series does his arc appear in?
rex? I thought he was a private and was promoted to captain rex. rex was also not a commander. Rex was not a ark either he was a captain Im confused
That's why TCW and the Clone Wars Multimedia Project have nothing to do with each other. TCW sucks.
6:00 is that at-at's in the bottom left corner?
Yes, those are an early/prototype versions of the AT-AT that were used by the GAR during the battle of Jabiim.
Why didnt the alpha arcs dual wield dc17’s or wield any at all?? Them pistols are just built different
Cpt Fordo did.
@@MarsiB013 true but thats only because of the animation style. The rest of the alpha arcs of munilist 10 and all other depictions, its still only fordo which is interesting, especially considering jango did
The westar m5 was standard for the Alpha class
@@Pigeion right but why not use m5 snd dual pistols
Almost first!
Fordo is the goat
Clone Fives was the most important imo
The most ordinary soldier in the republic, there were more than 30 billion of them by the end of the war, his importance is at the rudimentary level.
I love rex and fordo
I'm glad he wasn't made Rex. I love Legends just as much as canon, if not more.
Alpha is definitely my favorite clone. But i think Fives is the closest we'll get to Alpha. Fives has a lot of Alpha's personality
Fordoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo da best!
Come to think of it, if either side fought to win and nothing else, the galaxy would be a lot worse place to live in.
Still fordo. Fordo litterly gets doomslayer montages in og clone wars.
OIII Yo... Now im going on 30 this year.
But when i was 13 i went to the US and i remember getting this comic book and I lost it many years ago.... But its the Shit your showing in 6:19 and it came with a Toy Alpha. I still have him... Not his helmet or hands... But i still have him in my desk.
Alpha-17 is the shizz
But Alpha-77 is my fave
Rex is just a watered down Alpha.
Someone tell me the name of the comic pls
Republic comic book series and Obsession comic book series
Alpha's 17 Legend though Literally, he has no connection to the cannon Besides Rex, However if he did connect to Alpha 17 as you described training The first generation of clone troopers Including rex. however, this contradicts the Canon Because Rex's a first generation clone trooper and he was there at the First Battle of Genesis Just a few months before or after.. not a bad idea though. Actually, I would love for this to be Canon. Because this Most logical scenario. And that makes most sense
2003 clone wars is canon…
Unfortunately no
Alpha 17 is a badas*
Every freaking Null and Alpha is better than Rex.
These guys are the Spartan Soldiers of the Republic.
Don't forget, Filoni hates Alpha-ARCs and one of his least favorite Clones is Captain Fordo.
Ah yes, the true Chad himself. I prefer him over Rex
من همان آرایشگر هستم از قوچان توی منی چت با هم حرف زدیم
Nah def Rex.
سلام سینا جان شما ره همراه را برام بفرست
No clone is „better than Rex“ Rex is our boy
No.
Nulls and Alphas make clones like Rex look like stormtroopers at best
The entire SOB department is superior in training and abilities to Rex.
Better than Rex you traitor! Lol
I mean, Alpha-17 would have almost certainly disobeyed Order 66 if he hadn't disappeared, as most of the Alpha ARCs either disobeyed the order or just left military service during the rise of the Empire.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 A lot of Alpha ARCs stayed with the Empire just like Clone Commandos.
Alpha was one of the "cruelest" soldiers of the GAR so he definitely would have executed the order.
There were no stupid chips. Clones felt betrayed hearing their jedi became traitors. Not to mention that they were only loyal to the Republic.
@MandoMarsi I don't know, it's kind of a mixed bag when it comes to the Alphas and the commandos. Yes, plenty of Alpha batchers and RCs stayed loyal to the Empire and executed Order 66, but a good chunk of both DID disobey/disregard the order and went AWOL.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 The Special Operation Brigade had not many jedi in its ranks. ARCs an Commandos were utalized after Order 66 when the remaining jedi had to be hunted down.
Btw the majority of the clones weren't besties with their jedi.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 oh cool
I’m still trying to figure out why this is relevant to real life and what it can do to improve the world maybe if people started going outside more over worrying about sci-fi we might be smarter as a species
Rex sucks
literally rex is the weakest of the 4 and shouldnt even be an arc, more like a pitty trooper