MIG-23 | MACH 2 MISSILE DELIVERY SYSTEM
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MIG-23 | MACH 2 MISSILE DELIVERY SYSTEM
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The mig 23 was not meant to intercept the blackbird, that was the mig 25.
my FAULT
@Ilija Miljković But Mig 25 was faster then Mig 31
@Ilija Miljković They look the same but the 31 is far more advanced with a better radar, more powerful engines and a beefier airframe. But even then in order for her to reach the Black Birds speeds (which she could) the 31 had to literally burn it's engines up, requiring a complete rebuild on landing... That is how mother Russia chase away yankie eagle with titanium bear.
@@madkoala2130 So the legend says. F-15 was built to fight the 25. The fastest record speed for 25 was actually recorded on a broken up 25 in the Middle-East.
@@xxSWxxNINJA no, the mig-31 could NOT reach blackbird speeds. It had to intercept it and fire a missile to close the distance.
Im shit drunk watching this...but still not as drunk as those missles lmao.
hahahaha but the radar ones are pretty darn good though
@@PhlyDaily true
@@PhlyDaily true
@@PhlyDaily phly please can you show your radar controls in next video, my settings went tits up after update and can't get radar to work
@@marekmazurek8459 I use multi-function menu for most of the radar controls other than locking radar and turning it off.
The MiG-23 is one of the best looking Russian jets, no one can change my mind
but foxxxxxbatt?
Ok
What about the flanker
@@PhlyDaily I give that one a close second B)))))
But the bison???
´´You are a missile delivery system``
Mr.phly describing all modern weapons platforms
Except modern jets are also built for the within visual range fight, the MiG-23 was not, none of the jets of this era were, they thought within visual range was over for good. The Phantom is a perfect example of this on the American side.
@@evangalinsky2499 wrong, immediately after air combat started in vietnam phantoms were being retrofitted with guns and the world saw close air combat was still possible and followed suit
@@modernwarfare21999 Except I'm not wrong because you literally stated exactly what I said. Why did they need to retrofit Phantoms with guns? Because they thought that was over, and quickly realized it wasn't, that's why modern jets are built for the within visual range fight as well, unlike the Phantom. Thank you for further proving my exact point, while trying to discredit me.
@@evangalinsky2499 Things like the f14 and f15 were also developed in the late 60's, and DID incorporate maneuvrability as one of their key points. This is proven by multiple nasa reports and interviews of lead engineers. The mig 23 was also developed in the late 60's, yet competed with the f4 phantom, which was developed in the late 50's.
Also, modern jets like the f35, are NOT built for dogfighting. They are multirole stealth missile delivery systems, NOT dogfighters. The f22 was, however less than 200 were made...
@@jonnyj. That timeline difference from 50's to 60's is exactly what I'm referring to, as there definitely was a shift in military doctrine during that time, eventually doing a 360 and reverting back to they ways of old, hence why modern jets are for the most part built for the within visual range fight (with obvious long range ability). But as you pointed out, yes the F-35 was not built for that, and thats because its not built as a fighter primarily but secondarily, it can hang just not for long like dedicated fighters. The 14 may have been an exception to the rule but you cannot deny that during the late 40's and most of the 50's the idea was BVR and that alone, its pretty clear, so I don't know why you're denying it, there are always going to be exceptions to the rules of the time, the 14 may have been built with agility in mind but that one example does not sum up the rest of what was designed during that time especially considering how different the 14 is compared to just about everything else even today.
You're cherry-picking examples, instead of looking at the whole picture. the 15 btw is one of those modern jets I was talking about, same with the 16 and 18, that were built with within visual range as a strong focus, lessons learned from the F-4's of Vietnam.
You really shouldn’t use 100% wing sweep all the time. It reduces acceleration, turn rate, and energy retention at subsonic speeds
Why acceleration? Shouldn't it help since the drag is minimal?
@@gato_capitalista this is coming from an armchair pilot who’s only experience is war thunder, so take this with a grain of salt. But I’d think that even though a full sweep would reduce drag, it also reduces lift which makes the engine have to work harder especially at low speed meaning lower acceleration than if the engine didn’t have to work as hard.
@@gato_capitalista Full wing sweep means less lift, which means a higher angle of attack for the same amount of lift, which means way more drag.
@@gato_capitalista Swept wings only really reduce wave drag, which happens at transonic and supersonic speeds. But a big source of drag at subsonic speeds is skin drag and induced drag.
Skin drag scales with the surface area of an object, which is why subsonic airliners have round noses instead of pointed. Wing sweep on the MiG-23 doesn't really affect surface area, though, so it's not the thing to focus on here.
Induced drag is hecka important. All wings produce some amount of drag to go along with the lift they produce. Except when transonic/supersonic, swept wings produce a much lower lift/drag ratio than straight wings. That means whenever the MiG-23 is below Mach 0.8 (roughly the threshold of transonic flight), you want completely straight wings to improve lift efficiency. In zero lift situations (0g ballistic trajectories as opposed to 1g level flight or >1g turns), swept wings might produce a very minor advantage, but most of the time you're at least pulling 1g to maintain level flight, so you'll want straight wings below Mach 0.8
@@gato_capitalista your angle of attack is not optimal resulting in more drag for you to overcome
Phly use auto wing sweep, maybe use low sweep in dogfights but otherwise you can't do better than auto. It's still crap but at max sweep you bleed speed super quick in turns, makes it 10x more crap.
Yes I thought the same!
Yeah it seems to be a case of just because you can turn that fast doesn't mean you should. It was interesting to see him take off with full swept wings, seems to defeat the purpose of having variable swept wings if they are just going to be locked to full sweep.
Defyn said the exact same thing in his video on the Mig 23.
Gotta love how you wasted your two all-aspect missiles in rear-aspect shots... and then took a headon with a Vulcan
This jet would be great if we had more and varied game modes. Imagine having to escort a nuke or plane with Anti Ship missiles to a carrier in a squad, and there's another squad defending that carrier
If the maps and aerial warfare was realistic like in DCS this thing would be a beast
The intro looked like if top gun was filmed in Russia epic
The official trailers are getting better and better
I need the intro song
@@generalkenobi5173 same
That intro reminds me of an old story. When Syria and Egypt told the Soviets to stop sending them air-to-air missiles and to instead send air-to-plane missiles.
Yoooo dude
Just play PE-8 with Benny and Odd before they nerf the fab 5000
I bet that dropping together over map can get like 20 kills combine
They didn’t nerf them yet?!
Already nerfed
When your so quick that people are saying "that's what she said".
Hehehe
Lol Gaijin can't even do Russian bias right, everything is Gaijined.
It’s not bugged. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.
But the mig 23 sucked irl and i dont want russia to be op
@@WayneGlensky_ yep i grinded the obj 430u just because of that
@@theverminator8048 russia needs Su-25 frogfoot for literal actual balancing of CAS being used against it... Su-25 has maverick equivalents... and other things... which Americans get as early as 8.7 like wtf
Historically, the mig23 was nothing special and missiles of that generation were complete crap in every nation. So, if say it's more historically correct but people want f22 performance and missile tech from a 2nd gen aircraft.
Without googling from memory the mid 23 is a high altitude interceptor designed to shoot down nucular equipped bombers, whom were mostly sub sonic. The missiles are not designed to dogfight.
Using IRST lock when launching missiles, including R-60's bugs them out, don't use IRST track and the missiles will launch fine, including the big ones.
Edit: Just realized you found out half way through, spoke too soon :)
What really ….. damn it is this why I’m having more success with the r3s than with the r13m1s is it cause I try to use it for the r13s
Me a Draken Pilot: *laughs in 180 rounds and no flares*
Yeah it's weird because it could carry flares IRL.
@@elliothagner only the versions after j35f the j35d was the version before they added flares to it
You have to extend full the wings if you want to make sharp turns
i think he doesnt want to make sharp turns becouse he doesnt want to lose speed
@@Nicmower but if he turns with the wings like that the whole plane needs to turn, it will act like an airbrake (I dont even know if it's the case just made sense I'm my head)
eh, its phly. Hasn't had to grind a thing in ~4 years
@@Nicmower But at low speeds wings swinged 100% in actually bleed more speed, and make your acceleration worse
@@gato_capitalista Either way the entire plane is turning but also not really. Straight wings are better at using lift to their advantage and cause less drag at low speeds.
The mig 21 bis accelerates faster because it's using its uber afterburner that irl can only be used for 3 mins and heavily wears the engine. The 23 is also down on thrust to add to the deficit
Agreed. But It’s not bugged that’s a lie. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.
Ahh yes playing high tier just fire and forget missiles good
Might as well just play DCS lol
But not for fox1
They really aren't fire and forget free kills you actually generally have to do a bit of brain work to use them. Especially after this patch where missiles got nerfed and flares and chaff got buffed. Missiles got nerfed enough that I do consciously have to change how and when I fire my AIM-9Js even. People say there's no skill to top tier but there really is. I used to think there wasn't until I learned how tf to play top tier and my KDR skyrocketed.
You even have to forget the plane x)
AIM-7 and R-23 is Semi Active Radar, they're Fox 1 code. Which means they use the radar from the plane to guide them their target. They're not Fire and Forget.
The first fire and forget missile Fox-3 code was the AIM-54 Phoenix from the F-14 Tomcat that has an onboard radar inside the missile so they can just be fired and forget.
The MiG 23M didn't actually have a countermeasure pod. The MiG 23MLD had countermeasures and improved avionics
The MiG-23MLD also have access to more modern weapons like the R-73 Archer short range IR dogfight missile and the R-27 medium range types of missiles in which there are many IR and semiactive homing variants. It was also planned to install helmet mounted displays for the pilots for the R-73s in close range dogfights, but it was saved for to be used on the MiG-29 Fulcrum that replaced the MiG-23.
Day 166: play the P-51C-10 to show em a little trick you learned
Good luck 🍀 👍
Do it dad
@@hanro7430 lol
I think that with bigger maps and AI long range bombers (that will definitely do end games if not dealt with) the mig-23 will be amazing.
Gaijin introducing glitched features is as rare as a sunrise
It’s not bugged or glitched. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.
@@maurice7433 I guess you are right, maybe I'm just expecting too much from the snail
Hey Phly, your channel is one of those which inspired me to start making UA-cam contents. I'm learning stuff while making each one of them. I had almost zero video editing knowledge before all this. Thank you xD
You can boom and zoom it like you were doing near the end. Or you can hold your long range IR for sparrow fights. They have to guide their missile to completion, you don't. Fire and start dodging.
MiG-23 - Frontline Fighter based on integrated Ground Control Intercept system.
Without GCI it's a fast bus.
Dear Sir/Madam: this missile was delivered to you courtesy of the MiG-23, on time and on target. Were you satisfied with this delivery? Please go to our website and rate your service. Your cooperation is appreciated and we look forward to serving you a missile again.
Finally UA-cam! A phly video in the first 15 mns.!
Not bad, Phly. Been watching your streams for years
12 km away from the nearest enemy.
Phly: This is exactly where we want to be.
I can't wait to see the Mig 29 here at some point. One of the meanest fighter design ever. I don't play this cash grab thunder game myself but enjoy watching Phlys gameplay of it.
You got wait some more. Like a lot more
Your wait is over!
Love your vids
Great Channel, I love your intros😄👌
Currently in the game the mig-23 can outdogfight F-4’s with its wings extended
You just fly away from a f5e, it cant follow
Mans be pulling G's and wondering why he isnt going mach. It doesnt seems to be that slow, it just has horrible energy retention.
Looks like an ace combat intro! I cannot wait for the Foxbat
Phly getting control of your wing sweep angle is critical in a swing wing aircraft, when you want to turn fight your wings need to have the least amount of sweep and for acceleration gradually sweep the wings back, past Mach 1.2 go for a full sweep back.
If it's any consolation, the MiG-23 was considered to be a pretty poor fighter IRL as well.
Probably because it was built as an interceptor.
Depends which version of the mig 23
i kinda feel like they introduced the wrong version of the mig, and i do believe its missing 2000kgf of thrust...
and it actually has really good maneuverability when you unfold your wings, when they are completely folded back it doesnt turn and drains alot of energy, only use when going for max speed. 60 for high speed fighting 45 for medium and slow speed just unfold to 0. helps alot and you can easily outturn f4's
It's not missing any thrust. People are using the engine performance on a testbed and claiming it's the performance of the engine in the airframe, which is flat out wrong.
I wasn't even spaded in my bis when you followed me (I'm swordbow), mostly stock and didnt even have r60s, those are r13m I'm using there. The mig 23 is so damn heavy
Working as intended comrade ))))
Flogger go brrr
Attempt 238: please take the crusader mk.3 to 5.3, the heavy solid shot teabag mk.9 can go through the UFP of tigers at 100 meters
Phly, you've brought back the "Everybody" intro right? Well, there has been a certain song kinda stuck _In My Head_ phor a while that you could also bring back!
Attempt # 172
The song is Virtual Riot - In My Head (feat. PRXZM)
Yes
That’s a pretty cool plane
This thing is an interceptor. It was designed to take down incoming bombers. It was designed to go high quickly and get the drop on high altitude bombers. It's not designed for dogfighting. It's best used in a boom and zoom style of fighting.
phly, dont use infrared mode on the radar. its bugged at the moment and causes your missiles to go poo
It’s not bugged. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.
@@maurice7433 it is dude, your missiles literally dont work in irst
@@SergeantArchDornan2242 your not getting what I am saying. It’s bugged. But not on accident. It will get fixed when the hype around the f5 dies
We need the f-102 and or f-106 in game!!!
it's a demon in Sim Battles though, using the manual control on the wings can make it keep up with f5's for a short spurt, then run away effectively if you fail the initial attack run.
0:28 sane used to happen w me in the f4c sparrows but they fixed it now
Day 150: Phly, I challenge you to get 8 kills in one game with the SU-5-1. This MBT/Tank Destroyer is severely underloved in your channel.
Day 22 : pls play the etendard IVM so I can learn the meta
Wdym
Don't go to phly for meta. He does the exact opposite of meta.
@@setesh1294 by the time he plays it i'll be experienced with it anyway. Wanna see him versing yak38 with it tough
i love this channel😋
Full wing sweep before you reach mach makes your plane only slower because it has to compensate the lack of lift force by AoA
Phly: MiG-23 is a missile-delivery system
Yes, it is called interceptor and that is what MiG-23 was made for)
Day 74: Of asking phly the play the dicker max because it’s 105 is basically cheating at is br and it can survive
listen to this man!
@@stoiancristianflorin9027 I have literally tanked like 10 shots in the dicker max before I died at one point
If you think the dicker max is survivable, you should try the waffle tractor
It's all fun till someone goes up in a fighter to revenge kill, i do remember playing it what feels like 2 years ago and it was highly enjoyable when played right.
the intro is SICK
I'm really excited for the Saab Viggen if they actually decide to add it to the game
Same it's going to be amazing in ground rb
Phly can you try it the M26 Pershing you did before but that was like 5 years ago
"Your only job, is to get into position and launch these missiles and go home, that's it!"
I thought everyone wanted modern jet combat? :\ I'm confused.
7:32 nice high AOA maneuvers 👌
That plain was so fast IRL
Phly can an Italian boi see the F-104S in a capable hand. Any mode, any load, just make the F-104S the subject of the video.
Attempt 128
I use my F-104S to bomb bases over mach and occasionally get a gun kill lol
@@mexicoj00 Me too, that is when I get the thing in the first place. My lineup is lacking
@@catmanlegions in ground RB it's fun but in air RB it can be fun with friends ... My lineup for ground is stacked so even if I can't get into a plane in usually good
Day: 38 of asking Phly to play the Typhoon Mk Ib
F-111 and the mig-23 are beautiful
It's like you're launching them front aspect at triple the range they're supposed to be launched at.
damn that plane is a bigger disappointment than me to my family
i love russian jets due to the uniqueness, unfortunately they butchered my mig23
It’s not bugged. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.
You should play the Ju-87 D-5 with the MG x12 secondary
Day 9 Are combo videos still a thing? if so then I suggest you try the Sherman Firefly + Mosquito FB Mk XVIII (the 57 mm gun) for some very phun gaming!
Day 54 of asking Phly to let me take him turkey hunting.
Day 34 of asking Phly to let me take him deer hunting.
Day 14 of asking Phly to let me take him dove hunting.
Stalking is bad mkay?
Who doesn't wanna go hunting with some random dude from Internet?
just got the phly 1 mil war thunder pack a bit late but still poggers
Hi fly you should make a video on the new f-5c
Ward Carroll has a new video about going up against MiGs in an F-14, it provides some pretty cool insight into the advantages of the Mig-23 irl
1:33 this sound explains the missiles
Try out the British Phantoms. They kick ass.
try 8km launch range and head on engagement high up. Works a lot better for those missiles
Top tier jet gameplay will never be as exciting or fun to me as rank 1-4 prop gameplay!
Phly's new nickname is Sheeeshhhh!
"Light the Beacons!"
Five more weeks, Phlydaddy... Maybe make a video on baby tankettes?
You should play the wellington, 4000 kg bomb at 3.0
Yeah, IRL the MiG-23 was much the same. But, the one thing it did do was just keep accelerating until you were downright scared it would fly apart. In fact a four-star flying with Constant Peg out of Tonopah actually died in one. I believe it was named a YF-113 at that time.
Hey Phly what do you think about the F4F early?
Thanks for everything through the years!! - i had to say that...
Can't wait for the Foxbat
Are you not doing a general overview of all the vehicles in the patch?
Nice car man that urs?
Hey phly, would you play the British fgr2? Since the patch it’s a bit of beast with the pulse dopler radar. Thanks for the content.
Woooow Grape
The return of wow grape
HOW DID YOU DO THAT? Bu it is the nice video i've ever seen!!!
yoo that mig be MIGhty
SPEEEEED
Phly, wait for mig-27 and you'll love this platform.
I wouldnt be surprised to see the MiG-25 and F-15 appear soon with this in the game
I hope it doesnt happen soon
MIG-25 would be garbage. Depending on the source, it either can do only 1100 kph on the deck or mach 1.01, so you're either caught by a MIG-17 or by a F-5. It's got a pitiful Thrust to weight ratio, and it's maneuverability is awful which can range from just 2g to 4G. Oh and it has no guns, good luck.
You should play Gunner heat pc its looking pretty good now still being worked on tho
>zero recommendations
C'mon, this thing's a flying soviet anime!
phly I think this is another foreshadow to a change in meta the mig 23 is stealthy and fast at high altitude just like a super sonic bomber I think bombers are making a return with bomber interceptors at top tier.
Phly every game I go into there is a Kv-1C plague and I blame you...much love
@phlydaily have you seen the fw-190 7.92 glitch? I’m playing right now and it’s a pilot sniping masterpiece
7:25 flares making a sound while you're going supersonic?
day 207 now where you have played the old and rusty Centurion you might have a look at the Ultimative Centrurion the STRV 104 with a J29
Maybe they will introduce ground controlled intercept next.
Welp, that's why the call it the Flogger!