The Manda: Croatia's Minimalist .50 BMG
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The Manda is a rifle that was designed for the Croatian Special Police at the beginning of the Homeland War in 1991. At that point, the Special Police (basically the SWAT teams) were basically the only really well-trained fighters in the country with combat experience. They wanted .50 BMG anti-material rifles for the war that was breaking out, and the Croatian Ministry of the Interior developed and produced the Manda for them.
Specifically, the rifle was designed by engineer Petar Vucetic (and named after his sister). Mechanically, it is a very simple rifle, with two large locking lugs, a tubular stock, M70 AK pistol grip, and a barrel made form a turned-down Browning M2 bolt with a large muzzle brake. A total of 84 were made, fitted with Leupold scopes and mounts with integrated BDC cams for use from 300 out to 1000 meters.
A big thanks to the Croatian Police Museum (Muzej Policije) in Zagreb for giving me access to film this cool piece for you! Check them out at: muzej-policije.gov.hr
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A man with a pipe, lathe, and a shed is unstoppable
And with more men it's a recipe for an internationally recognized firearms company
it's always the shed
The shed is the key. You can build a decent lathe from scrap; you need the shed to store the lathe.
@@Schrodingers_kid
@@Schrodingers_kid 2 more men to be exact
That's the ultimate form of the angry tube
From dragon-like kaiju to anti-materiel rifle, Manda will always be the angry toob.
TOOOB
The lead pipe rifle
@@paleoph6168 FELLOW KAIJU ENJOYER
Angry tube number 69. 😊
The designer naming it after his sister is some great sibling rivalry. "This rifle is loud and simple, so I named it after you"
Oh! _BURN._
MANDA IS MOST OFTEN NAME OFF CROAT CATHOLICS FROM BOSNIA..😂😂🎉
@@davidgoodnow269 apply cold water to the burning area
We love our siblings in Croatia.
That was my grandmother's name 🎉😂
The minimum range was 300m, because any closer and you'd risk hitting the target with the barrel.
🤣🤣🤣
Made me giggle...
Gunsmith: "How long should I make the barrel?"
Gov: "Yes"
Genius 😂
hahaha...
This isn't just minimalist, this is bordering on abstract by this point
The Vector is a cubist take on the Thompson
Picasso, gunsmith?
Imagine how it would look with some brass parts....
@@miket2120 ooh, sexy!
😁
"If you squint hard enough, you can kinda imagine there's a cheekweld that won't break your teeth when you fire."
That's a bolt-action Sten in .50 BMG :D
Rifle #69 of a gun named after the designers' sister and this comment currently has 69 likes.
Nice all around.
Apt description.
So not a Sten?
I'd say it's extremely reliable. Simple, tried and true stuff all around. That's certainly not true for the Sten though (which sometimes just decided to blast off a few rounds all by itself and due to poorly designed mags would sometimes only fire on release of the mag).
@@thetalesofdaneandco I think they're going by the looks alone.
I fired this thing last year. Only .50 cal i fired so far. The range staff said it was a "one off custom build from the yugoslav wars". Now it turns out it is actually a serial rifle with a name. Very cool to find out. God i love forgottenweapons!
How was the recoil?
@@budwyzer77 very mild. But i fired it kneeling off the bipod (way to heavy to lift up anyway, at least for me).
@@Soff1859 Ah, so it *looks* minimalist but it's made out of nice thick steel?
@@budwyzer77 yes totally. As i said i never fired another 50 cal. So i am not sure how the weight compares to a barret for example. But i was very surprised how heavy this big ol hunk of metal was.
@@budwyzer77Minimalist does not refer to how thick or heavy something is, it refers to a very simple design. You could make something thick and robust or thin and light and still have something that is minimalist in design.
There is a small number of parts and the parts themselves are very simple in design. That's what makes this rifle a minimalist design. You have to use very thick metal to make a 50 BMG that doesn't blow up. Also not machining anything off of the parts that wasn't necessary gives the rifle a minimalist look. That will also add some weight.
Mark Serbu is somewhere drooling over this
Oh yeah. I bet more people thought about Mark Serbu seeing this because this gun definitely is up his alley.
And somewhere in Kentucky a man has an itchy neck while watching this😮
"I'll need, like, 3 more thumbs before I test fire this."
@@ActualHumanPerson perhaps he shouldn't have taken a risk with one of the most powerful rifle calibers of all time
@@THESLlCK What was risky about gun he shot?
Never fight a man with his back against a shed full of metal working tools.
*A-Team music playing in the background*
Kentucky Ballistics’ PTSD entered the chat
I was writing the same 😂
Hahaha TOP comment.
I was about to post a comment about KB. 😅
This gins built way better than a threaded plug turd rn 50
PTSD? More like PTRD.
“Number 69 and named after the designers sister”
Nice
Nice
Nice.
Manda is also slang for female genitalia in some Slavic languages
Nice.
Croatia, the Alabama of eastern europe.
This reminds me of the Preved anti-material rifle from Metro Last Light and I think that is really cool.
There was an anti material rifle in Metro:LL? I don't remember that. Given it's been a few years since I played the Metro Franchise in whole.
@@Saint_Wolf_ Yeah, it's incredibly rare but can be spawned in the Developer Pack DLC shooting gallery to try out with all the attachments for that weapon.
@@Saint_Wolf_ yes, it's a modified ptrs 41
Preved medved!
Goes to show you how important it is to have skilled machinists around.
Croatia is small country but had large machining and stamping capability.
About dozen types of lathes where produced and about dozen types of milling machines where in production in 1990s. Country that produces metalworking machines. ships and trains should be able to produce guns.
The weaponsmiths today is the blacksmiths of the past.
Ian - great review! I managed to get one of the few Mandas to get into the US when Sarco brought in a small batch; although without the scope and mount, just the milled-in Picitinny rail. If you're ever in Northern Virginia, you're welcome to fire my Manda at a relatively nearby 500 yard range.
- Mom, can we have PTRD?
- We have PTRD at home.
PTRD at home:
came to the comments to say just this
This gun is super impressive for what it is, a functional and effective piece of equipment designed and executed quickly to provide fighting men with something they need. I also recognize that this is what a bubba’d PTRD would look like and I *love* it
This is reverse bubba’d, bubba’s put useless crap on perfectly fine guns
@@ivan5604 as opposed to, say, turning useless crap *into* perfectly fine guns?
@@lairdcummings9092bubba response
Did you buy an SKS or mosin and drill into it to put a scope on? You look the type
@@jeremiahvires7864 That would be my cousin. I don't bubba perfectly good milsurp rifles - He, on the other hand, would go absolutely nutz.
Kroatian weapons are one of the most interesting, and there's plenty of them.
manda must have been one hell of a firecracker to get a .50bmg amr named after her!
BFG-50: who are you?
MANDA: im your father.
Well nice, ya kinda little off.
BFG: who are you?
Manda: “Don’t you know me? It’s just me your little girl Manda.”
PTRD:
I'm your GRANDfather!
In Russian, "Manda" is a vagina in obscene slang. So most likely the "Manda" is the mother of the BFG-50. And we also have a proverb: " whatever you name the boat, it will sail." If you called a rifle a vagina, then it will shoot the same way.
@@edwardphillips8460 copium old man
I've gotta say the pun, I just do.
Thanks for the Manda lore, Ian.
Unironically though, this looks like a gun that would be right at home in the hands of a Star Wars bounty hunter
This is the way…
Creative
My favourite firearms are always the ones that are function over form like this one. I always love the look of such examples, even though they weren't designed to be elegant in any way, they're just plain cool.
He he, if you want absurd and dangerous for the user, watch Ian's video about the hand grenade launcher from that period of war
"How bad is the recoil?"
"Yes"
Have you ever been kicked by a horse?
No
Well today will be full of new experiences
During a war were you don't have weapons to fight recoil is the less of your concerns.
It's very heavy and that weight will mitigate recoil. Some guy who shot one said that it was so heavy he couldn't shoulder it and had to rest it on the bipod to shoot it. He said the recoil wasn't that bad but he also probably did not fire many shots.
The recoil was so bad they made less then 100 of them.
Reportedly, recoil is quite manageable.
When you’re being bullied and your Croatian friend shouts “don’t worry I’ll get Manda!!” you know it’s about to get real
What in the wish fulfilment is this
Very tubular
Totally
I love the utter simplicity of this
The Croatian Toothpick, looks wild but functional,. Must have been a beast to fire. Thanks Ian
I feckin love that minimalist BDC cam.
Me too but that has to be machined right on the money to be right
Love the magnificent simplicity of this rifle.
What is simple is useful, what is not simple is not useful. Beautiful, simple, effective design. Thank you Ian.
Love me when Ian makes a vid about my nation's guns.
Ok, I'm an adult, but as a Russian I can't help but giggle at the name of this gun.
true
❓Why?-What does it mean in your language?🤔
@@pe.bo.5038 In Russian swear slang its one of the less rude terms for c*nt.
@@pe.bo.5038Charlie - Uniform - November - Tango
Oh it's a bad word in Ruski, about like the c-word. I sniggered too lol. They had to know 😂 especially the anecdote about it named after his sister
Looking at this thing makes my neck itch for some reason
Scott is that you?!
There is a modification of this rifle, Le Taignon 001. Another stock, a fore-end added, and apparently a different sight, perhaps some other changes. In general, this gun was recently found near Chasov Yar. And now this weapon can be seen in the possession of one famous blogger.
They made only 84,this is pure gold!
"This is #69 out of 84 made" Nice.
Nice
Noice
I would nickname it as "Son of the PTRD".
It really is a PTRD scaled down
Considering what "manda" means in russian - it's daughter of PTRD.
PTRD
Post
Traumatic
Russian
Disorder
Absolutely. Amazing to think someone SIMPLIFIED that. (Although the PTRD needed more recoil absorption I suppose with that monster 14.5 cartridge!)
Minimalist is a good word for this.
Probably the least offensive way to describe it, honestly.
Next time in Zagreb I need to see that museum. So much unique history.
I bet Scotts neck is gonna tingle if he watches this vid!
Love your content, Ian, and these short little videos are just the thing sometimes. I have a tight schedule in the morning. Workout, get ready for work, eat breakfast. I have about 10 minutes for watching something. Netflix has very little that short, but a video like this on a topic I enjoy is very welcome into that time slot. You always do a great job with your content and placing the weapon in its historical context.
I really want to visit Croatia, and it is funny how I learned about the nation more than just a name via their firearms. Funny how that goes. As it is, very cool barebones straight to the point rifle and honestly it points to how most things happen in war, you just focus on making it do what it needs to do and not fuss about bells and whistles.
Yugoslavia had the third largest army in Europe at the time of its breakup. It was controlled by the Serbs because the capital of YU was Belgrade. Can you imagine being in war against the third largest army in Europe and having only the police force to defend yourself!? People were going into trenches with hunting rifles. It took courage on another level, but we were defending our homes and were as one. Something similar can still be seen in Croatian sports.
@@veltruskiit wasn't so simple, the Yugos did not directly enter a war with Croatia, they just supplied the Serbian rebels with their war machine (obviously not their entire war machine)
@@exeticm4k Look man, I know what I'm talking about. I'm Croatian. Serbs were controlling the army after the breakup of YU. They were controlling it before. All those war criminals that ended up in Hague are Serbs. The ethnic mass murders of civilians in Croatia and Bosnia were done by Serbian generals and the army. If you're not from here, and haven't been through that war, you cannot know.
@@veltruski I AM a Croat myself, and I know, but I'm just saying that my ancestors, obviously, did not face off the ENTIRE Yugo army
Right?
Top shelf content !!! What a cool bit of history !
That's quite a unique sniper rifle you got there Ian, i love the story behind such firearms with you telling us everything in detail. Cheers🎉.
This simple brutalist design looks incredible.
We also had a RT20 or hand cannon 20 mm , single shot like this
So much of a forgotten weapon, that I literally can't find any info about this gun online (probably have to google in Croation)
I just wish you listed its weight though, because this might be the most skeletal anti-materiel rifle I've ever seen.
What a beautiful specimen
The gun is pretty cool too
Of course they kept number 69 to put in a museum.
Vucetic was the last name of the first guy who start using finger prints to identify criminals. He was Argentinean (born in Croatia while it was still part of Austrian Empire). The Federal Police Academy here in Argentina is named after him
Uuhh ya saltó un eyaculador precoz para reivindicar la falsa pertenencia de Iván Vučetić como argentino en algo q además nada q ver con lo q se habla, acá se lo nombra a Petar Vučetić, y si bien Iván Vučetić llegó a los 24 años a la Argentina y se nacionalizó arg para entrar a la PFA, ya vino de Europa con toda una ídea fromada y preconcebida de la dactiloscopía, de hecho prestó servicio militar allá y se formó en criminalística.
Me recuerda a los ridículos q le atribuyen el invento de la birome a la Argentina por un húngaro q vivió acá y se apellidaba Biró.
Dejá q los extranjeros sólos investiguen si les interesa flaco, no hace falta andar gritando x el mundo "yo yo yo, Argentina Argentina" y levantando la mano como un alumno de primaria, se nos cagan de risa x patéticos y mediocres.
Además te informo q Vučetić fue totalmente ninguneado y abndonado por el gbno y la policía arg, murió en el ostracismo sin reconocimiento alguno y prácticamente en la pobreza, ahora todos quieren chapear, monigotes.
Si queremos salir de la mediocridad como país tenemos q dejar de mirar al pasado y a los europeos q en su momento si hicieron algo decente por la Arg, pero nosotros ya no somos ese país conformado por europeos lamentablemente, hay q mirarse padentro y con más autocrítica si queremos evolucionar, cito a José Ingenieros *(UN ITALIANO Q VIVÍA EN ARG)* "los hombres y pueblos en decadencia viven acordandose de dónde vienen, los hombres geniales y pueblos fuertes sólo necesitan saber a dónde van".
Uuhh ya saltó un eyaculador precoz para reivindicar la falsa pertenencia de Iván Vučetić como argentino en algo q además nada q ver con lo q se habla, acá se lo nombra a Petar Vučetić, y si bien Iván Vučetić llegó a los 24 años a la Argentina y se nacionalizó arg para entrar a la PFA, ya vino de Europa con toda una ídea fromada y preconcebida de la dactiloscopía, de hecho prestó servicio militar allá y se formó en criminalística.
Me recuerda a los ridículos q le atribuyen el invento de la birome a la Argentina por un húngaro q vivió acá y se apellidaba Biró.
Dejá q los extranjeros sólos investiguen si les interesa flaco, no hace falta andar gritando x el mundo "yo yo yo, Argentina Argentina" y levantando la mano como un alumno de primaria, se nos cagan de risa x patéticos y mediocres.
Además te informo q Vučetić fue totalmente ninguneado y abandonado por el gbno y la policía arg, murió en el ostracismo sin reconocimiento alguno y prácticamente en la pobreza, ahora todos quieren chapear, monigotes.
Si queremos salir de la mediocridad como país tenemos q dejar de mirar al pasado y a los europeos q en su momento si hicieron algo decente por la Arg, pero nosotros ya no somos ese país conformado por europeos lamentablemente, hay q bajar el copete, tmb mirarnos padentro y con más autocrítica si queremos evolucionar realmente, cito a José Ingenieros *(UN ITALIANO Q VIVÍA EN ARG)* "los hombres y pueblos en decadencia viven acordandose de dónde vienen, los hombres geniales y pueblos fuertes sólo necesitan saber a dónde van".
Uuhh ya saltó uno para reivindicar la falsa pertenencia de Iván Vučetić como argentino en algo q además nada q ver con lo q se habla, acá se lo nombra a Petar Vučetić, y si bien Iván Vučetić llegó a los 24 años a la Argentina y se nacionalizó arg para entrar a la PFA, ya vino de Europa con toda una ídea formada y preconcebida de la dactiloscopía, de hecho prestó servicio militar allá y se formó en criminalística.
Me recuerda a los ridículos q le atribuyen el invento de la birome a la Argentina por un húngaro q vivió acá y se apellidaba Biró.
Dejá q los extranjeros investiguen sólos si les interesa flaco, no hace falta andar gritando x el mundo "yo yo yo, Argentina Argentina" y levantando la mano como un alumno de primaria, se nos cagan de risa x patéticos y mediocres.
Además te informo q Vučetić fue totalmente ninguneado y abandonado por el gbno y la policía arg, murió en el ostracismo sin reconocimiento alguno y prácticamente en la pobreza, ahora todos quieren chapear, monigotes.
Si queremos salir de la mediocridad como país tenemos q dejar de mirar al pasado y a los europeos q en su momento si hicieron algo decente por la Arg, pero nosotros ya no somos ese país conformado por europeos lamentablemente, hay q bajar el copete, tmb mirarnos padentro y con más autocrítica si queremos evolucionar realmente, cito a José Ingenieros *(UN ITALIANO Q VIVÍA EN ARG)* "los hombres y pueblos en decadencia viven acordandose de dónde vienen, los hombres geniales y pueblos fuertes sólo necesitan saber a dónde van".
Uuhh ya saltó un eyaculador precoz para reivindicar la falsa pertenencia de Iván Vučetić como argentino en algo q además nada q ver con lo q se habla, acá se lo nombra a Petar Vučetić, y si bien Iván Vučetić llegó a los 24 años a la Argentina y se nacionalizó arg para entrar a la PFA ya vino de Europa con toda una ídea formada y preconcebida de la dactiloscopía, de hecho prestó servicio militar allá y se formó en criminalística.
Me recuerda a los q le atribuyen el invento de la birome a la Argentina por un húngaro q vivió acá y se apellidaba Biró 😆
Dejá q los extranjeros sólos investiguen si les interesa flaco, no hace falta andar gritando x el mundo "yo yo yo, Argentina Argentina" y levantando la mano como un alumno de primaria, se nos cagan de risa x mediocres y ridículos.
Además te informo q Vučetić fue totalmente ninguneado y abandonado por el gbno y la policía arg, murió en el ostracismo sin reconocimiento alguno y prácticamente en la pobreza, ahora todos quieren chapear, típico argento promedio, JaJaa.....
Si queremos salir de la mediocridad como país tenemos q dejar de mirar al pasado y a los europeos q en su momento es innegable hicieron lo poco decente de la Arg de entonces, pero nosotros ya no somos ese país conformado por europeos lamentablemente, hay q bajar el copete, tmb mirarnos padentro y con más autocrítica si queremos evolucionar realmente, cito a José Ingenieros *(UN ITALIANO Q VIVÍA EN ARG)* "los hombres y pueblos en decadencia viven acordandose de dónde vienen, los hombres geniales y pueblos fuertes sólo necesitan saber a dónde van".
Uuhh...... nunca falta uno para reivindicar la falsa pertenencia de Iván Vučetić como argentino en algo q además nada q ver con lo q se habla, acá se lo nombra a Petar Vučetić, y si bien Iván Vučetić llegó a los 24 años a la Argentina y se nacionalizó arg para entrar a la PFA ya vino de Europa con toda una ídea formada y preconcebida de la dactiloscopía, de hecho prestó servicio militar allá y se formó en criminalística.
Me recuerda a los q le atribuyen el invento de la birome a la Argentina por un húngaro q vivió acá y se apellidaba Biró 😆
Dejá q los extranjeros sólos investiguen si les interesa flaco, no hace falta andar gritando x el mundo "yo yo yo, Argentina Argentina" y levantando la mano como un alumno de primaria, se nos cagan de risa x mediocres y ridículos.
Además te informo q Vučetić fue totalmente ninguneado y abandonado por el gbno y la policía arg, murió en el ostracismo sin reconocimiento alguno y prácticamente en la pobreza, ahora todos quieren chapear, típico argento promedio, JaJaa.....
Si queremos salir de la mediocridad como país tenemos q dejar de mirar al pasado y a los europeos q en su momento es innegable hicieron lo poco decente de la Arg de entonces, pero nosotros ya no somos ese país conformado por europeos lamentablemente, hay q bajar el copete, tmb mirarnos padentro y con más autocrítica si queremos evolucionar realmente, cito a José Ingenieros *(UN ITALIANO Q VIVÍA EN ARG)* "los hombres y pueblos en decadencia viven acordandose de dónde vienen, los hombres geniales y pueblos fuertes sólo necesitan saber a dónde van".
Scott’s scar is tingling…
Looks like the sniper out of day of the jackal
If the original "day of the jackal" gun was in 50bmg
Keep it simple. Cheers Ian.
That has pain written all over it when the trigger's pulled. Definitely be a candidate for a hydraulic buffer.
In Croatia only the Dummys went to fight in the war for independence---So they did not care!
Yeah it'll hurt, but you should see the other guy.
@@TheGreegles 👍
Looks like an elongated, compensated, serial-numbered version of the 1973 "The Day of The Jackal" assassin's rifle.
You know it's good when the scope has more moving parts than the gun
This looks like someone was in the middle of repairing the kitchen sink when the war started and just borrowed some of the plumbing, attached a scope, and got stuck in. I like it!
not many guns that you can say have a minimum range, then you find this guy
Look up Croatian RT-20!
I'm kicking myself that it took me a month to watch this video even though it's short. This is a beautiful rifle and I think it looks awesome in the steel. For someone who's not technically, I love the mechanical side of it because you explain things so well. What I love most are the weapons that have a story behind them.
Thanks.
It looks like a few of metal pipes fit together to make a sniper rifle😮
Scott and Brandon are scratching their chins rn 😂
Was a bit surprised to see you do videos about Croatia and the Homeland war and equipment after just moving here February this year. Coincidence? Probably. Cool? Definitely!
Especially for an old UN veteran from Nordbat2 from Bosnia... Might have to visit the museum at some point when visiting Zagreb...
Dude if you're in Zagreb or close by these days I'd love to get a beer if you have the time.
I love the simplicity and minimalist look. I think once you got set up, it wouldn't be that expensive to mass produce. You would definitely want to test every single bolt with magnetic particle inspection and use really good steel and heat treatment. There's no margen for error on something chambered in 50 BMG. I wonder how many shots those bolt lugs will safely hold up for.
Well, those lugs look 30mm deep (1 1/4), that is a lot of meat. Case hardened lugs of that size can hold those pressures withouth problem. It is many times stronger than Serbu rifle that has threaded cap, and that is certified for 80,000psi.
Love the international nature of this channel. Ian is always going somewhere interesting.
Dobrissimo!!
That is a truly cool rifle
So check in tomorrow as we take this to the range for the two gun match with.....
This is a nice piece of history, in those times a lot of "homemade" weapons came out mainly SMGs but for this one, I didn't even know that exist until now ...
I think what the designer had suffered from his sis that caused him to put her name on a 0.50 cal single shot 😁
🤣😂🤣LOL!
it served its purpose and is still excellent today
Thanks
Your pronounciation of names is great, good job
I would LOVE to hear the story of how this gun, a massive, kinda crude .50 cal rifle, got named after the designer's sister.
I love this!!!!❤
Tacti-cool PTRD 41
True 😂
In smaller caliber for CQB
Excellent as an emergency weapon for polevaulters.
My guys knows his history. Respect 😎 one of rare that said every single thing right.
I assume that Kentucky Ballistics does not want to test that rifle.
Love this
Wow '' Ian , Another Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I'm not sure I like the sound of minimalist .50 BMG.....
Thing looks like something you n your cousin made in the shed to fire shotgun shells.. the bolt reminds me of an old single shot .22 we had as kids.
The design language of this gun really speaks to me
This is a boomstick. A very large boomstick, but a boomstick none the less. But sometimes a big angry boomstick is EXACTLY what you need.
Goooood morrrning forgotten weapons!
Still waiting on your review of RT-10! Ask someone in Karlovac for this gem!
If you find yourself in Zagreb, eat burek and drink rakija!
"Now watch me shoot a SLAP round with it"
Да!
It is just beautiful
Nice.
California-compliant 50 BMG rifle
good video
Nice!!!
Нет, ну это настоящая манда...
doesn't Manda mean P****SSY in Russian ?
“Minimalist” and “.50 BMG” aren’t normally words I want to see in the same sentence.
Not necessarily. This gun had the bare minimum number of parts needed to work, and those parts had to be simple to produce. Safety was achieved in other ways: check the lugs, they are massive.
Last time I was this early, Manda was a Toho kaiju.