We took your advice about getting a dryer before rainy season starts and we're glad we did. It doesn't require venting and has a built in water container - think of a lint trap, only for water. We had a few rainy overcast days and definitely could feel the dampness...plus fresh laundry right out of the dryer is a special warm feeling on its own. Congratulations (Parabens) on your new place. I look forward to seeing your search for purchase.
Thank you very much, guys! We appreciate the love and loved hearing how you're settling into your new place. We know what you mean about that special warm feeling. 😊 We're hoping to be able to do that search for purchase in a few months. - Josh & Kalie
Ok, of course I loved this video! Raw and real! I felt my anticipation growing as you checked off the apartments and huffed up the hills - you guys really track some mileage! Your new place does look like home and at a good price (Kalie got her washing machine in the deal - yay!) Thank you as always for the authentic experience-it means a lot to me! 🤗🤗🤗
Thanks, Elizabeth! We're really happy here for sure. The washing machine is massive, especially with how often we need it due to Cia. Thank you for the feedback on how you perceived the content. It's important for us to hear this. It encourages us to try more of it. - Josh & Kalie
Glad you guys found your place! Can’t wait to see you in Porto. We’re planning a trip about February to open bank account and look at apartments and then if everything lines up move in July. We’re very excited as things are speeding up here.
That orange car is an Aixam - Portuguese call them mata velhos - bc old people drive them and they have a max speed of 30 mph so other cars come up fast and sometimes don’t stop. It’s a Vespa with a roof. That’s the sound you hear. A motorcycle engine in a frame. You don’t need a license to drive it. I’ve seen in Italy and France age 14 you can drive them. But each place has its own rules.
Frantic but really useful episode, it's always good to see value comparisons and prices for living accomodations as the economy changes. Cia also seems to be learning how to check things out. P.S.: "Homeless in Porto" might be a good series but I'm glad to see that you settled in!
Def. frantic and fortunately there aren't too many people complaining of motion sickness as they watched us fly up and down the streets filming selfie mode. 😅 Cia's very much one that checks things out on the stroll. She points and names certain things now too. - Josh & Kalie
It's crazy that you guys ended up picking the exact place I went see just a few weeks ago!! It's a great location and the flat is well sized for the price, so I can't quite remember why I didn't go for it, probably because of the small kitchen and lack of washing machine (the owner didn't offer me to buy one)... but I'm glad my decision not to rent it in the end contributed to yours in the slightest 😄 Congrats on your new place, I hope you enjoy it for as long as you want to stay, and definitely keep us up to date on the rental market in Porto whenever you guys are back to the hunting!
Any chance you could cover more of the nitty-gritty of the negotiation process, what to look for on the contract, and what site or process you've been using to find the apartments for rent? Thanks for sharing more about Porto. We can't wait to get there!
Oh my gosh...I am so glad you found and picked number 3!! The others were so dated I could never live in any of the others!! Once again I feel so lucky...I am so thankful for my small (totally agree Josh, less to clean) IKEA furnished apt...Air/heat, large terrace and full kitchen with gas stove, oven and dishwasher (no Josh here) are more important than size (guests go to the apt/hotel across the street so that's good😁)! Availability has gone down and price up here too in Lisboa and luckily we only stayed in a hotel for a week!! Lastly, you do know that you can sign a 1 year lease, but get out with a 3 month notice, right?!? So that's another way to work it out!! Great video!!
Thanks, Tamara. Sorry you don't have a Josh. Yes, there's the 1/3 law here that applies here, but we do try our best to always honor contracts when we make an agreement with people. That's just how we roll. We would break a lease if something was wrong with a place and the landlord wouldn't do anything about it. We are glad there's that law to protect renters though. Thanks for watching and we're glad you liked the video and the new APT. Keep us posted on your restaurant. - Josh & Kalie
Lol...I don't have a Josh, but I have a Nico!!😉 I will keep you updated about the resto...Looking so good!! As for breaking the lease, it was our landlord who told us that and it's for the owner as well as the tenant! We don't enter into a lease planning on breaking it either, but it was reassuring since we took the first available apt because we were getting a little scared of living in a hotel and availability wasn't what it was months before we moved!! Again, we got lucky in all and that includes area and landlord!!!
@@tamaramadelin4831 Nice! How's the Nico model of dishwashers? 😊 That's true. We've had several realtors tell us about it as a strategy especially when an owner says that want 2-3 year leases! We're glad we've all got places that we like. - Josh & Kalie
Ok, of course I loved this video! Raw and real! I felt my anticipation growing as you checked off the apartments and huffed up the hills - you guys really track some mileage! Your new place does look like home and at a good price (Kalie got her washing machine in the deal - yay!) Thank you as always for the authentic experience-it means a lot to me! 🤗🤗🤗
@@elizabethreynolds6874 Thanks!! 🙏❤ We definitely tracked some miles on that day. 😅 Kalie's very happy with the washing machine and to be honest, we couldn't go without at this point with a kiddo. She would never get anything done if she had to keep making runs to the laundromat. We appreciate the feedback on how we're doing in these videos. - Josh & Kalie
Congratulats for your new place. I hurried to look at "Rua de Gonçalo Cristóvão, Porto" in Streetview. At the end of the video I heard Kalie say that with the build in heater we´ll get through the winter. Porto has good internet, thats essential for you. And the appartment is brand new, another plus, windows seem to be good. I saw in other videos ppl using gas bottles for heating, I used them. Stay away, it´s a mess and very unsafe. Is there another heating than electricity in Portugal?
❤️ all of your vlogs.. I’ve been watching since you landed in Pt. This one especially ‘cause Porto is on my radar ( I am in the U S) Prices are relatively the same if you are giving the monthly in ‘dollar’ vs euro. Thanks for committing to your viewers #LoveCia🥰
Awesome! Thank you! We appreciate the love ❤️ We're definitely going to try to keep up with one Portugal video a week while we're bring back the 'everywhere' of ExpatsEverywhere. 😅 - Josh & Kalie
I have many stupid questions… Are there many thrift stores there, where one can purchase inexpensive furniture for those empty rentals? How expensive is internet, power and utilities, or are they customarily included?
I enjoyed watching this video. I like what you did with the apartment you chose and was pleasantly surprised that the owner bought a washer for you to use.
Glad you enjoyed it! Our landlords are incredible. We see ourselves staying with them until we buy and move into our own place. We've recently had dinner at their house. GREAT PEOPLE. - Josh & Kalie
Hey guys! Congrats on finding a place that works so quickly. We’d been in our AL rental since May and wanted to find a long-term place. Like you, we wanted to approach landlords directly instead of going through tourist housing. It seemed like so many places were either over-priced or not really great. It was a disappointing reality. We decided to search in both Braga and Lisbon, and ended up finding a place we love in Lisbon. I think it came down to simply more inventory. There are definitely deals to be had out there, and turns out everything in Lisbon isn’t more expensive than Porto. Thanks for showing your search. A little bummed that we would’ve been neighbors as the apartment you chose is right around the corner from our apartment in Porto. ❤️
Hi Kailie and Josh. So, saw the first 2 houses, and i was what... those owners really pushed the bar high to another world... pluto maybe? Those house where not even prepared to be livable. 3rd house seem betterish, i think those heaters are electric... however nice house makeover you did, switching the bedrooms... creating new spaces. 4th house, i used to live near there actualy that lidl and small park where the place to go during the dark covid year... the bonfim area is cool to live, interesting stores, restaurants and good vibe... however is quite moisty in the winter, is like a micro-climate XD. Well, felicidades on finding your winter apartment.
Hi Elder, good to hear from you. Yea, we thought that the first two places prices were a bit crazy considering what else was on the market and their location. We're so happy with our space and how we've modified it. The moisture in Bonfim is an issue we're having to consider. Thanks. - Josh & Kalie
I liked 3 best too! Glad y’all made it work. Super idea to have your bedroom in the small space 😉and Sia gets the bigger bedroom with play area. Enjoy 🪴🏡🤍That was a fun video to watch see and compare with you. ✌️🤍♥️🤍Lots of good vibes from Turkey I moved from ancient Constantinople 🪴modern-day Istanbul down to ancient Smyrna🙏modern-day Izmir🇹🇷 Love it here! Izmir is very well laid out in terms of modern transportation so day-to-day living is simple and efficient. Plus, no need for a car - walking or the trains and trams can take you anywhere. 🙌cheers 😘
I'm glad you chose apt number 3. I think I would have grabbed it although air conditioning is very important to me. Is a/c really hard to find? Could you tell us where the apt was originally listed? Also, in your recent live video chat, someone in PT mentioned neighborhoods such as Lavra, Rio Tinto, Moreira, Maia, Perafita that are within 30 minutes by metro from downtown Porto where the rents are more reasonable. I would love it if you could cover these neighborhoods in future videos. Thanks so much again. You guys are awesome!
Thank you very much! We weren't sure what was going to come of it as we filmed but we're happy with the way it turned out despited the shaky footages and us trying running up and down the streets trying not to be too late to appoints. We really appreciate the feedback and encouragement. - Josh & Kalie
Congrats on your new space! I actually very much enjoyed this "on the fly" video and your 3rd place was my favorite of the 4 too! Awesome that they put in a washer for you because I would would rather have a washer than a stove! ;) Wish you guys much luck in finding a place to buy that you will love.
Thank you very much, Kist Myst! We appreciate your feedback regarding enjoying the "on the fly" nature of this. ZERO planning went into preproduction so we had to sort it out in editing. 😅 We think it worked though. - Josh & Kalie
Those heaters can have really complex UI. But once you figure it out you can schedule them to come on during evening and off around 6am for the most efficient us of energy.
We might try that when the time comes. Hopefully with us being south facing, we'll get some solar heating during the day to warm the apartment and then we'll see how insulated the place is. 😊Thanks for the idea. - Josh & Kalie
Hi Guys, Wife an I arrived in Porto 5 weeks ago and had similar problems finding a place. Ended up spending more than we wanted in Leca Da Palmeira, but we are happy with the place. Looking to purchase in about a year. Best of Luck!
Hello both of you, cute new place you found. Suspecting the 4th apartment was a scam possible because he asked for your phone number despite both of you communicating online. Learned on Craigslist that the moment they want you to text them they are just soliciting phone numbers to scam, not serious buyers. Looking for a dehumidifier now that were going to the wetter season in Portugal, if someone has a recommendation please share : )
Hi, Tatiana! I already had apartment 4's number and he messaged me to WhatsApp him. When I called him, that's when he explained to me what happened. I don't believe it was a scam. We're glad it all worked out. The place from the outside and pictures looked pretty nice so we might have had a more difficult decision on our hands. Have you looked at Auchen or Continente for the dehumidifier? - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you, yes trying auchan and continente , lots of choices…overwhelming. Those are around 300 EUROS plus…not cheap if one goes for a decent one. On another note …are you still planning on a segment that covers transfer of funds from North America to a Portuguese bank using transferwise?
Quick question. And you might get tired of me, but I know in one video it looked like you moved the day after you landed in Porto. Is that not the case? Did y'all end up staying in the hotel? Do you recommend coming first to find a place? I just know I need proof of residency before applying for my visa. I might be confused, but want to make sure. Thanks for the video! I feel like I've been watching Cia grow up too :)
This was really helpful. Thank you. I secured a 6 month rental to satisfy the requirements for my initial visa, and even tho I only need 30 days notice to get out of it, I want to stay-put until I receive my residency card. As month 4 marches on now, I've been thinking about the point where this contract will end, and I will need a new (longer term) rental. So I've been wondering how long it might take to actually do that, and this gave me a good idea of both a potential timeline, and the initiative needed. I'll probably be doing the bulk of the search during February, so I'm hoping there will be more to choose from then. I always appreciate the content of your videos, and the camera quality on your phone was just fine.
We're so glad it was helpful, Sarah. 😅 Glad the phone did the trick. Sometime, things just can't be produced. You know? Keep us posted on things and congrats on all the progress. - Josh & Kalie
@@businessturnaroundadvice I found my initial lease through Flatio. My visa required a 6 month lease. I was in the States at the time. Flatio allows people to view and rent apartments online, that come with a standard visa qualified lease (from 1 month to a year+), that you can print out and take to your appointment, that are guaranteed to be of a certain standard or they will find you a replacement, and that are easy to break (w. 1 month notice) if things change. After that, I used a friend of a friend of a friend to find long term housing.
Always love these videos, and I was opting for #3 as well. Porto is our #1 choice, but thanks to your video, have now included Braga in the mix.. Portugal is truly beautiful 🌺.
@@user-rk8mr8ux5s Not as good as April! Sorry, dad joke. I couldn't help it. But seriously though, March is still a little cooler and wetter. You might catch some warm days but that really doesn't start til April or May on a consistent basis. - Josh & Kalie
thanks for your video, very interesting. I would like to ask you why you chose to buy a real estate in Porto vs Lisbon (perhaps you answered on this question earlier, but unfortunately I could not find the answer by scrolling through your previous videos)
Thanks, Shasheta. We haven't really discussed directly Porto vs Lisbon in a video. Ultimately, we choose Porto over Lisbon because it's the place we want to live for a bit. We don't want to live in Lisbon. It's not the right size of us and the people in the North are just nicer. Does that make sense? - Josh & Kalie
We weren't sure this place would be perfect until we got in and moved stuff around to fit our needs, but we really like the place a lot and it's certainly perfect for us right now. Thanks for the support. Possibly in a few months, it'll be time to buy. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for sharing! These slices of unvarnished reality are really useful. D7 visa is now requiring one year rental-curious if you have any advice on how to figure that out from abroad. I’m guessing for that it’s probably easier to go through an agency rather than individual listings on idealista when you’re not actually in PT at the time. We’ll be in Porto (and Lisbon and maybe Braga) for a scouting trip in early November. Looking forward to scouting neighborhoods. When we were there before it was just as tourists. Love your videos. Thanks guys.
Thank you very much, Megan. We appreciate hearing from you. If you'd like to talk more about strategy feel free to shoot us an email at info@expatseverywhere.com. Yes, it's probably easier to go through an agency or better yet a property management company. Keep us posted on your arrival. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks! Home sweet home indeed. We love it here and feel very comfortable. We weren't sure about the location at first because it's on a busy street but honestly, it's been fantastic! We appreciate you watching and commenting. - Josh & Kalie
Also because we have a 3 month rental we are wayyyyyy over paying for this tiny T1 1000euro a month,! Plus whatever is over 50 euro for utilities. Need a longer term rental; but without visa it’s not possible. Any suggestions or connections would be greatly appreciated. Great video btw
Thank you. If you have a visa limitation (90 day max visa), it's a big risk for you to sign something longer. People do get long term contracts before their residence visa because a housing contract is a requirement. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere thank you! I actually looked at one of the apartments you looked at! In a previous video. Too many bars and strip club so I said nay. Plus no washer. So still on the hunt. I’m watching your videos over and over. Lol
Your video was fantastic and (for me) just in time!!! I am traveling Lisbon in one week now (November 1), for house-hunt. For what I have seen in internet (ie. Idealista, etc.) it is that prices have been indeed increased !!!!!!!
Glad you found a new place. You mentioned two agencies at the beginning -- one is Liiving, but I couldn't understand the second one and I don't see it referenced...something like Fil Porto? Parabéns pelo seu novo apartamento.
Saw you guys last night at the Só Coffee block party 😀 🙌🏼 but my German friend refused to let me stop to say hello 😕 Glad you made this video! The sudden price increases & short term limitations were evident to me when I went to rent a place pre visa application. Happy to say I made it to Porto….but now I have to start looking again. 🤦🏻♀️
Hi Lauren! We wish you would have rejected your German friend's request to not say hello and said hello anyway. 😁 Thanks for writing though. We are glad you liked the video. We hope you find a place and next time you see us, please, say "Hey". - Josh & Kalie
We moved out of our apartment back in May and started our 90 content creation project where we toured Portugal. Sorry, Paul, I'm not sure where you've picked up on the channel but basically, through the summer, we toured PT and we didn't want to pay rent and be paying for 2 week accommodations everywhere we went to film. So we moved out, stored stuff with a friend in Porto, left Porto for Faro, and when we came back we stayed in a hotel with an amazing rate for 2 weeks while we finished up the 90 project with Ami & G and searched for our next place to live. There was a lot of filming that still had to happen when we got back to Porto so we tried to do as much as possible the first week so that the second week we would have time to find a place and move. - Josh & Kalie
You can break a lease after 60% is complete without any negative consequences. So why not go for the 1 year rental? It takes months to get through the buying process anyway
Mainly because we don't like breaking contracts. We like to make our "yes" mean yes. After 6 months here, we'll go month to month or around the 4 month mark, we can re-negotiate or extend here if everyone is happy. - Josh & Kalie
Thank you. From what we know, there's a law against pet discrimination, however, we're not 100% what all that entails. So advertising a pet free complex might be difficult. Smoke free on the other hand, we haven't noticed it, but for us personally, we haven't had any problems with smokers. One rule of thumb in our travels across Portugal and living a variety of places, the more you spend on a place, the less those kinds of things are a problem. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for sharing, Joel. The problem we've found with the apartments in Gaia is that they're in Gaia...and we want to live in Porto. 😊 You know what we mean? If you'd like us to possibly come over and film those apartments to show our audience of what's possible for rent in Gaia at €600/month, email us at contact@expatseverywhere.com - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Let´s wait 2 more years and let´s see when tourism get´s really Hight and you will change the way you think...Porto it´s for tourism, Gaia it´s for living...all the best for you...
Our D7 is at the embassy now and has been for 2 months. We are expecting to move to Porto area in October pending D7 approval. Any advice on getting a furnished place?
Sounds like you'll get your visa answer soon. There are several ways you could proceed on getting a furnished place. You could go through a property management company that has a large inventory of furnished rentals, try to find a place yourself and organize it from abroad using a site like idealista.pt or you can use a business service that acts at a buyer's agent (renter's agent in this case). They're organized virtual visits for you and help with the contract. - Josh & Kalie
Hey you 2 1/2ers…. Glad to see you found close to what you needed and what worked in the budget. I’m confused as to what happened at the last place, but hey, I confuse easily😂
Thanks! We moved out of the last place before starting our 90 day project. We didn't want to pay rent and be paying for lodging on the road because production costs for that project were high enough. We just coincided the end of our contract there with the start date of our Portugal tour. When we came back to Porto, we got a GREAT rate at the Ibis for 14 days and that gave us time to finish the project with Ami and G as well as find a place for the 2.5 of us plus Pincho to stay. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere …. We’ll that explains it… thanks. BTW, I’m scheduled for January 1 in the Tavira area…. Finally!! Hopefully we’ll meet up and I can buy ya dinner… in person! Thank you for all you do 😁
@@vodcome You're welcome. Nice, congrats on locking in that date. We should be in Porto around then. We don't have any plans to travel at the moment. It would be nice to meet you in person. - Josh & Kalie
The cost of real property in Portual has been raised in the recent years. When do you think it is the right time to purchase a property in Portugal as an expat under D7?
The easy answer is as soon as possible. There could be a correction once more data is found out about the knock on effects of the Golden Visa program ending for the coast and metro areas. - Josh & Kalie
Hi Guys, you have mentioned an issue with places excepting dogs, does that pertain to Airbnb’s mostly or is finding a long term rental as difficult too? Love your vlog! We are in the process of applying for our visas and preparing to move. Your videos are a lot of help. Thanks
You can find long term rentals. Our advice is don't mention any pet until you meet the agent or owner at the property. They're more likely to soften up. We're glad you're enjoying the channel. - Josh & Kalie
Loved this! The Vlog style is my favorite. That is cool that they bought the washing machine. Logistics-wise, how did you move? A large Uber? Metro? Multiple trips?
Thanks, Rebecca! We appreciate the feedback. We actually enjoy doing the vlog format too although it's not the easiest one to shoot and edit, it's at least fun. It was super cool of them to offer it and they threw in TV and Internet. They seem to really like us as renters and we really like them as landlords. You know, we didn't have much so we carried everything we had from the trip up the hill to our apartment since it's walking distance from the hotel. That took two trips. On another day, I went to Cedofeita where our friend's place is and where we stored stuff. He helped me load an Uber XL and I brought the stuff up and in making several trips in the elevator. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere oh my goodness, thanks for that thoughtful reply. I am such a logistics person and it has boggled my mind how we might move. We are not acquiring much stuff yet, but we have added an air mattress, a fan, two night lights and some hair clips (with 4 girls it is bound to accumulate). Was just super curious. You guys are rock stars with all that walking. Being only 2 weeks in, we still have to pace our walking quite a bit. We love to look at our steps each day. I am sure you guys blow us out of the water on any given day though. Hope you guys are enjoying this gorgeous day!!
Idealista is just the listing site. Liiiving is a rental company with short, medium, and long term rentals. When we first moved, we shortlisted 10 apartments a few of them were Liiiving managed properties. We had to check to see who would accepted dogs. Of the 10 we found, 5 from Liiiving, 2 accepted dogs. We ended up in one of their apartments. On this search, we dealt with 3 real estate agents, and 2 private owners. We ended up in a place with a private owner. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks, Brian! Let us know when you all come to Porto. We'll have you around for a beer or wine. 😉 BTW is this the car you saw? commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aixam_Scouty_R_front.jpg - Josh & Kalie
Very interesting ,as always . May I ask you about the situation for those wishing to spen 3-4 months in Portugal .I was in that wonderful country for two weeks back in 2019 and used a British bank card at ATMs . I was shocked to find I got one Euro for one Pound ! That works out at a 15% charge . Obviously it is not advisable to carry large amounts of cash but it seems rather difficult to open bank accounts there . Any advice ? Thank you in advance .
Hi, if you're not interested in opening a bank account in Portugal yet, our advice would be to check out Wise. We have a link in the description section or you can use this one here. transferwise.prf.hn/click/camref:1011lfsFy/ar:channelwide/destination:https%3A%2F%2Ftransferwise.com%2Fc%2Fexpatseverywhere You'll be able to open an account with Wise and order a card. This card will allow you to open up different "wallets" in your account. Open up a GBP and Euro account. You'll be able to fund the Wise account with GBP and convert it into Euros for much, much cheaper. Then you can use this card in Portugal to withdraw Euros for minimal fees. - Josh
You need to go to a pub.. and speak with locals .. Then buy a few beers .. They will soon tell you .. But i am in a town outside braga.. in the north .. and they dont want or. Have no homes to rent
Yes, you could rent a moving truck or just get a moving service. That seems to be the most common thing it seems. We've also had friends rent a car for a day or two and move stuff. - Josh & Kalie
We got the D7 visa and have created a playlist about it in a vlog. We had to apply for it in the US. If you'd like more information, email Kalie at info@expatseverywhere.com and she'll try to help you. - Josh
We like the price we got and think it's a far price for what's on the market. Or first place was €900/month and now listed at €1,090 so the fact we're paying €700 with internet for arguably the same neighborhood, and size of apartment, we're happy. - Josh & Kalie
I admire you both so much you grind it and get it done its so encouraging for me to see it keeps me positive for my tradition when the time comes thanks for all your info and content ✌
Thanks, Renee. Your transition here should be a little easier in regard to housing because you'll most likely need to have that sorted before getting your visa, but all the other stuff is totally doable too. - Josh & Kalie
Hay guys, my wife and I are in Porto now. Just moved from Nashville. Weve talked to you on livestream a few times. Would love to buy you lunch sometime soon . Maybe we can meet up . We have a rental in Cedofeita.
Hi! Welcome to Porto. Thanks for reaching out. If you don't mind, email Kalie at info@expatseverywhere.com and she can schedule a meet up. How's that sound? Do you guys like Cedofeita? - Josh & Kalie
No, when we moved, we used our passport. They could ask for your NIF though, Alex. If you have any other questions feel free to email us at info@expatseverywhere.com - Josh & Kalie
Gerry, thank you very much! We appreciate how you continually support the channel with your viewership, comments, and Super Thanks. It's humbling to have a supporter like you. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks, Seamus. We're really glad that this one came together alright. We weren't sure with the shaky footage and all, but we're happy to have recorded it and delivered some information on our experience. - Josh & Kalie
Hi Paulo, nope, we found a place and most likely the next time we move, it'll be into a place that we've bought. We appreciate the offer though. Thanks for being a subscriber too! - Josh & Kalie
Thank you, Jacquie. We appreciate you being a sub! You know, we try to keep it real. As real as we can be in a 10-20 minute video that was filmed across 6 hours and idk how many kilometers of walking. 😂 - Josh & Kalie
We found all of these on idealista.pt and we contacted the individual owners or agents ourselves. We didn't like the prices of the other options we found through the larger companies that you can rent through so we decided to work with private owners and individual agents. - Josh & Kalie
Tricky question. I feel like my answer wouldn't be to the heart of the questions but I'll just answer it straight up. No, you don't need a NIF. You shouldn't. A passport would do unless you're booking through Airbnb or some other site like that. - Josh & Kalie
Not that impressed with what was on offer, I thought that Portugal was supposed to be good value for money.....this was like stepping back into the 1950's but with prices from 2021.....thanks for posting, it was informative
Part of it was the market conditions at the time but also, we've noticed you've got to pay around €900-1,200/month to get something fully renovated and modern (T1+1, T2) in the city center. You can also get cheaper than what's seen here but those are generally going to be more word of mouth kind of deals. - Josh & Kalie
That's (15:56) not a Smart, it's a Aixam or similar. Those vehicules can't be used in highways or similar roads, as its top speed is 45 km/h. Also, you don't need the normal driver's license to drive, but just a special (and simpler) license.
@lucchese20 Until 2005, it was very simple, it would be obtained in the local city hall (Câmara Municipal) just by answering some questions. Now you need to go to a driving school, take 28 lessons (road code), followed by a 30 questions test, have 12 (driving) lessons, followed by a driving test.
@@ExpatsEverywhere Don't think so, most of those cars are very noisy. Also, are not very safe and cost as much as a normal (cheap) car. The cheapest Aixam costs over €9000.
I wish to relocate to Portugal 🇵🇹 , I am retired and not happy with the USA while on Social Security! I feel like I worked too hard ALL my life just to be poor on this fixed income. This is HELL!!! 👍🏽🍀✌🏽🙏🏼😇🙏🏼💖🌈🇩🇪🍀🌸🌻🌼💐🌹🌷👑
I just visited Porto for nine days and looked at some apartments there. As much as I like Port wine and the Portuguese people two things stick out for me: 1) How dirty the outside of buildings look and run-down condition of the city , 2) How tiny the apartments are especially coming from larger homes in the states. Maybe it’s just the culture of the place. I commend you for squeezing yourselves into the shoebox apartments in Porto. For me it would have to be outside the city to get square footage I need. By contrast Spain is much more updated with gleaming buildings and streets and better bang for your buck.
Seemingly, yes. The Americans that we've met that live abroad or consider moving abroad do, which might be a contributing factor for making the decision to go overseas. It's interesting to us to see things that are hundreds of years old keeping in mind our country is around 250 years old. - Josh & Kalie
We took your advice about getting a dryer before rainy season starts and we're glad we did. It doesn't require venting and has a built in water container - think of a lint trap, only for water. We had a few rainy overcast days and definitely could feel the dampness...plus fresh laundry right out of the dryer is a special warm feeling on its own. Congratulations (Parabens) on your new place. I look forward to seeing your search for purchase.
Thank you very much, guys! We appreciate the love and loved hearing how you're settling into your new place. We know what you mean about that special warm feeling. 😊 We're hoping to be able to do that search for purchase in a few months. - Josh & Kalie
Ok, of course I loved this video! Raw and real! I felt my anticipation growing as you checked off the apartments and huffed up the hills - you guys really track some mileage! Your new place does look like home and at a good price (Kalie got her washing machine in the deal - yay!) Thank you as always for the authentic experience-it means a lot to me! 🤗🤗🤗
Thanks, Elizabeth! We're really happy here for sure. The washing machine is massive, especially with how often we need it due to Cia. Thank you for the feedback on how you perceived the content. It's important for us to hear this. It encourages us to try more of it. - Josh & Kalie
I love how Cia checks out the drawer space in #1 apartment!
Glad you guys found your place! Can’t wait to see you in Porto. We’re planning a trip about February to open bank account and look at apartments and then if everything lines up move in July. We’re very excited as things are speeding up here.
Thanks, Paula. We look forward to welcoming you all here. 😊 Keep us posted on things. Let us know if you need any help. - Josh & Kalie
Hi guys, The beautiful sights & sounds of Portugal is your UA-cam Studio 👍🤣
😁 - Josh & Kalie
That orange car is an Aixam - Portuguese call them mata velhos - bc old people drive them and they have a max speed of 30 mph so other cars come up fast and sometimes don’t stop. It’s a Vespa with a roof. That’s the sound you hear. A motorcycle engine in a frame. You don’t need a license to drive it. I’ve seen in Italy and France age 14 you can drive them. But each place has its own rules.
Frantic but really useful episode, it's always good to see value comparisons and prices for living accomodations as the economy changes. Cia also seems to be learning how to check things out.
P.S.: "Homeless in Porto" might be a good series but I'm glad to see that you settled in!
Def. frantic and fortunately there aren't too many people complaining of motion sickness as they watched us fly up and down the streets filming selfie mode. 😅 Cia's very much one that checks things out on the stroll. She points and names certain things now too. - Josh & Kalie
It's crazy that you guys ended up picking the exact place I went see just a few weeks ago!! It's a great location and the flat is well sized for the price, so I can't quite remember why I didn't go for it, probably because of the small kitchen and lack of washing machine (the owner didn't offer me to buy one)... but I'm glad my decision not to rent it in the end contributed to yours in the slightest 😄 Congrats on your new place, I hope you enjoy it for as long as you want to stay, and definitely keep us up to date on the rental market in Porto whenever you guys are back to the hunting!
Any chance you could cover more of the nitty-gritty of the negotiation process, what to look for on the contract, and what site or process you've been using to find the apartments for rent? Thanks for sharing more about Porto. We can't wait to get there!
Oh my gosh...I am so glad you found and picked number 3!! The others were so dated I could never live in any of the others!! Once again I feel so lucky...I am so thankful for my small (totally agree Josh, less to clean) IKEA furnished apt...Air/heat, large terrace and full kitchen with gas stove, oven and dishwasher (no Josh here) are more important than size (guests go to the apt/hotel across the street so that's good😁)! Availability has gone down and price up here too in Lisboa and luckily we only stayed in a hotel for a week!! Lastly, you do know that you can sign a 1 year lease, but get out with a 3 month notice, right?!? So that's another way to work it out!! Great video!!
Thanks, Tamara. Sorry you don't have a Josh. Yes, there's the 1/3 law here that applies here, but we do try our best to always honor contracts when we make an agreement with people. That's just how we roll. We would break a lease if something was wrong with a place and the landlord wouldn't do anything about it. We are glad there's that law to protect renters though. Thanks for watching and we're glad you liked the video and the new APT. Keep us posted on your restaurant. - Josh & Kalie
Lol...I don't have a Josh, but I have a Nico!!😉 I will keep you updated about the resto...Looking so good!! As for breaking the lease, it was our landlord who told us that and it's for the owner as well as the tenant! We don't enter into a lease planning on breaking it either, but it was reassuring since we took the first available apt because we were getting a little scared of living in a hotel and availability wasn't what it was months before we moved!! Again, we got lucky in all and that includes area and landlord!!!
@@tamaramadelin4831 Nice! How's the Nico model of dishwashers? 😊 That's true. We've had several realtors tell us about it as a strategy especially when an owner says that want 2-3 year leases! We're glad we've all got places that we like. - Josh & Kalie
Ok, of course I loved this video! Raw and real! I felt my anticipation growing as you checked off the apartments and huffed up the hills - you guys really track some mileage! Your new place does look like home and at a good price (Kalie got her washing machine in the deal - yay!) Thank you as always for the authentic experience-it means a lot to me! 🤗🤗🤗
@@elizabethreynolds6874 Thanks!! 🙏❤ We definitely tracked some miles on that day. 😅 Kalie's very happy with the washing machine and to be honest, we couldn't go without at this point with a kiddo. She would never get anything done if she had to keep making runs to the laundromat. We appreciate the feedback on how we're doing in these videos. - Josh & Kalie
Congratulats for your new place. I hurried to look at "Rua de Gonçalo Cristóvão, Porto" in Streetview. At the end of the video I heard Kalie say that with the build in heater we´ll get through the winter. Porto has good internet, thats essential for you. And the appartment is brand new, another plus, windows seem to be good. I saw in other videos ppl using gas bottles for heating, I used them. Stay away, it´s a mess and very unsafe. Is there another heating than electricity in Portugal?
❤️ all of your vlogs.. I’ve been watching since you landed in Pt. This one especially ‘cause Porto is on my radar ( I am in the U S) Prices are relatively the same if you are giving the monthly in ‘dollar’ vs euro. Thanks for committing to your viewers #LoveCia🥰
Awesome! Thank you! We appreciate the love ❤️ We're definitely going to try to keep up with one Portugal video a week while we're bring back the 'everywhere' of ExpatsEverywhere. 😅 - Josh & Kalie
I have many stupid questions…
Are there many thrift stores there, where one can purchase inexpensive furniture for those empty rentals?
How expensive is internet, power and utilities, or are they customarily included?
I enjoyed watching this video. I like what you did with the apartment you chose and was pleasantly surprised that the owner bought a washer for you to use.
Glad you enjoyed it! Our landlords are incredible. We see ourselves staying with them until we buy and move into our own place. We've recently had dinner at their house. GREAT PEOPLE. - Josh & Kalie
Hey guys! Congrats on finding a place that works so quickly. We’d been in our AL rental since May and wanted to find a long-term place. Like you, we wanted to approach landlords directly instead of going through tourist housing. It seemed like so many places were either over-priced or not really great. It was a disappointing reality. We decided to search in both Braga and Lisbon, and ended up finding a place we love in Lisbon. I think it came down to simply more inventory. There are definitely deals to be had out there, and turns out everything in Lisbon isn’t more expensive than Porto. Thanks for showing your search. A little bummed that we would’ve been neighbors as the apartment you chose is right around the corner from our apartment in Porto. ❤️
I feel you. I’m looking for four or six months too. It’s a hustle! I’ll be moving to Porto too for a part of the year
Def. a hustle but doable, right? What time of year are you coming to Porto? - Josh & Kalie
Hi Kailie and Josh. So, saw the first 2 houses, and i was what... those owners really pushed the bar high to another world... pluto maybe? Those house where not even prepared to be livable. 3rd house seem betterish, i think those heaters are electric... however nice house makeover you did, switching the bedrooms... creating new spaces. 4th house, i used to live near there actualy that lidl and small park where the place to go during the dark covid year... the bonfim area is cool to live, interesting stores, restaurants and good vibe... however is quite moisty in the winter, is like a micro-climate XD.
Well, felicidades on finding your winter apartment.
Hi Elder, good to hear from you. Yea, we thought that the first two places prices were a bit crazy considering what else was on the market and their location. We're so happy with our space and how we've modified it. The moisture in Bonfim is an issue we're having to consider. Thanks. - Josh & Kalie
I liked 3 best too! Glad y’all made it work. Super idea to have your bedroom in the small space 😉and Sia gets the bigger bedroom with play area. Enjoy 🪴🏡🤍That was a fun video to watch see and compare with you.
✌️🤍♥️🤍Lots of good vibes from Turkey
I moved from ancient Constantinople 🪴modern-day Istanbul down to ancient Smyrna🙏modern-day Izmir🇹🇷
Love it here! Izmir is very well laid out in terms of modern transportation so day-to-day living is simple and efficient. Plus, no need for a car - walking or the trains and trams can take you anywhere.
🙌cheers 😘
Good choice! Happy to see you're staying in Portugal :)
Thanks! 😃We really like this place a lot. No studio space, but we'll make the backdrop work. - Josh & Kalie
I'm glad you chose apt number 3. I think I would have grabbed it although air conditioning is very important to me. Is a/c really hard to find? Could you tell us where the apt was originally listed? Also, in your recent live video chat, someone in PT mentioned neighborhoods such as Lavra, Rio Tinto, Moreira, Maia, Perafita that are within 30 minutes by metro from downtown Porto where the rents are more reasonable. I would love it if you could cover these neighborhoods in future videos. Thanks so much again. You guys are awesome!
Liked these 'impromptu' videos. It's polished and informative. It's alot of work posting these videos -- they are greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much! We weren't sure what was going to come of it as we filmed but we're happy with the way it turned out despited the shaky footages and us trying running up and down the streets trying not to be too late to appoints. We really appreciate the feedback and encouragement. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for sharing this wonderful video.
Thank you, Yasin. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere U r welcome. 😀
Congrats on your new space! I actually very much enjoyed this "on the fly" video and your 3rd place was my favorite of the 4 too! Awesome that they put in a washer for you because I would would rather have a washer than a stove! ;) Wish you guys much luck in finding a place to buy that you will love.
Thank you very much, Kist Myst! We appreciate your feedback regarding enjoying the "on the fly" nature of this. ZERO planning went into preproduction so we had to sort it out in editing. 😅 We think it worked though. - Josh & Kalie
Those heaters can have really complex UI. But once you figure it out you can schedule them to come on during evening and off around 6am for the most efficient us of energy.
We might try that when the time comes. Hopefully with us being south facing, we'll get some solar heating during the day to warm the apartment and then we'll see how insulated the place is. 😊Thanks for the idea. - Josh & Kalie
Hi Guys, Wife an I arrived in Porto 5 weeks ago and had similar problems finding a place. Ended up spending more than we wanted in Leca Da Palmeira, but we are happy with the place. Looking to purchase in about a year. Best of Luck!
Thanks for sharing, James and Sandra! All the best to you all in your house hunt. Keep us posted! - Josh & Kalie
Hello both of you, cute new place you found. Suspecting the 4th apartment was a scam possible because he asked for your phone number despite both of you communicating online. Learned on Craigslist that the moment they want you to text them they are just soliciting phone numbers to scam, not serious buyers. Looking for a dehumidifier now that were going to the wetter season in Portugal, if someone has a recommendation please share : )
Hi, Tatiana! I already had apartment 4's number and he messaged me to WhatsApp him. When I called him, that's when he explained to me what happened. I don't believe it was a scam. We're glad it all worked out. The place from the outside and pictures looked pretty nice so we might have had a more difficult decision on our hands. Have you looked at Auchen or Continente for the dehumidifier? - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you, yes trying auchan and continente , lots of choices…overwhelming. Those are around 300 EUROS plus…not cheap if one goes for a decent one.
On another note …are you still planning on a segment that covers transfer of funds from North America to a Portuguese bank using transferwise?
Quick question. And you might get tired of me, but I know in one video it looked like you moved the day after you landed in Porto. Is that not the case? Did y'all end up staying in the hotel? Do you recommend coming first to find a place? I just know I need proof of residency before applying for my visa. I might be confused, but want to make sure. Thanks for the video! I feel like I've been watching Cia grow up too :)
Great video! Thanks for sharing the experience with us.
Our pleasure! Thanks for the comment and watching. - Josh & Kalie
This was really helpful. Thank you. I secured a 6 month rental to satisfy the requirements for my initial visa, and even tho I only need 30 days notice to get out of it, I want to stay-put until I receive my residency card. As month 4 marches on now, I've been thinking about the point where this contract will end, and I will need a new (longer term) rental. So I've been wondering how long it might take to actually do that, and this gave me a good idea of both a potential timeline, and the initiative needed. I'll probably be doing the bulk of the search during February, so I'm hoping there will be more to choose from then. I always appreciate the content of your videos, and the camera quality on your phone was just fine.
We're so glad it was helpful, Sarah. 😅 Glad the phone did the trick. Sometime, things just can't be produced. You know? Keep us posted on things and congrats on all the progress. - Josh & Kalie
Who did you use to find your apt?
@@businessturnaroundadvice I found my initial lease through Flatio. My visa required a 6 month lease. I was in the States at the time. Flatio allows people to view and rent apartments online, that come with a standard visa qualified lease (from 1 month to a year+), that you can print out and take to your appointment, that are guaranteed to be of a certain standard or they will find you a replacement, and that are easy to break (w. 1 month notice) if things change. After that, I used a friend of a friend of a friend to find long term housing.
Pretty sure that the apartment of Rua Goncalo Cristovao is the building I'm moving into next week!
Yeah, pretty sure we're about to be neighbors
Excellent! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the compliment. You're welcome! - Josh & Kalie
Always love these videos, and I was opting for #3 as well. Porto is our #1 choice, but thanks to your video, have now included Braga in the mix.. Portugal is truly beautiful 🌺.
April, Braga is great too. Thanks for the love. ❤️ This apartment is great! We're really enjoying it here. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Since you’ve been there for some time now, what’s the weather like in March?
Braga is great!!
@@user-rk8mr8ux5s Not as good as April! Sorry, dad joke. I couldn't help it. But seriously though, March is still a little cooler and wetter. You might catch some warm days but that really doesn't start til April or May on a consistent basis. - Josh & Kalie
@@rqcastro1 Agreed. - Josh & Kalie
thanks for your video, very interesting. I would like to ask you why you chose to buy a real estate in Porto vs Lisbon (perhaps you answered on this question earlier, but unfortunately I could not find the answer by scrolling through your previous videos)
Thanks, Shasheta. We haven't really discussed directly Porto vs Lisbon in a video. Ultimately, we choose Porto over Lisbon because it's the place we want to live for a bit. We don't want to live in Lisbon. It's not the right size of us and the people in the North are just nicer. Does that make sense? - Josh & Kalie
I am glad you guys could find a place! Definitely, it's not easy to find the perfect home!
We weren't sure this place would be perfect until we got in and moved stuff around to fit our needs, but we really like the place a lot and it's certainly perfect for us right now. Thanks for the support. Possibly in a few months, it'll be time to buy. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks for sharing! These slices of unvarnished reality are really useful.
D7 visa is now requiring one year rental-curious if you have any advice on how to figure that out from abroad. I’m guessing for that it’s probably easier to go through an agency rather than individual listings on idealista when you’re not actually in PT at the time.
We’ll be in Porto (and Lisbon and maybe Braga) for a scouting trip in early November. Looking forward to scouting neighborhoods. When we were there before it was just as tourists. Love your videos. Thanks guys.
Thank you very much, Megan. We appreciate hearing from you. If you'd like to talk more about strategy feel free to shoot us an email at info@expatseverywhere.com. Yes, it's probably easier to go through an agency or better yet a property management company. Keep us posted on your arrival. - Josh & Kalie
My partner and I recently qualified for D7 in the UK and were able rent a place remotely in Barreiro.
I'm curious about this too. I've seen the year long requirement. If you find out something different, please let me know. Any tips would be great!
Thanks JOsh and Kate great content! which storage unit did you recommend to use to keep your goods in Porto that was 24/7 access?
Hi Derrick, we stored our stuff with a friend. 😁 We don't know of any storage units but we're sure they exist. - Josh & Kalie
NICE! Home sweet home! Well at least for the Winter.
Thanks! Home sweet home indeed. We love it here and feel very comfortable. We weren't sure about the location at first because it's on a busy street but honestly, it's been fantastic! We appreciate you watching and commenting. - Josh & Kalie
Nice bumping into you guys on my way to Sai Cão!
Great seeing you too, Alex! - Josh & Kalie
Also because we have a 3 month rental we are wayyyyyy over paying for this tiny T1 1000euro a month,! Plus whatever is over 50 euro for utilities. Need a longer term rental; but without visa it’s not possible. Any suggestions or connections would be greatly appreciated. Great video btw
Thank you. If you have a visa limitation (90 day max visa), it's a big risk for you to sign something longer. People do get long term contracts before their residence visa because a housing contract is a requirement. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere thank you! I actually looked at one of the apartments you looked at! In a previous video. Too many bars and strip club so I said nay. Plus no washer. So still on the hunt. I’m watching your videos over and over. Lol
Good information on finding an apartment. How many stories up is your place? Thanks for your good work on these videos.
Thanks, Marianne. We'd prefer not to say for security reasons. We appreciate your support though. - Josh & Kalie
Your video was fantastic and (for me) just in time!!! I am traveling Lisbon in one week now (November 1), for house-hunt. For what I have seen in internet (ie. Idealista, etc.) it is that prices have been indeed increased !!!!!!!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful. All the best with that house hunt. Keep us posted on how it goes. Yes, prices have risen for sure. - Josh & Kalie
Glad you found a new place. You mentioned two agencies at the beginning -- one is Liiving, but I couldn't understand the second one and I don't see it referenced...something like Fil Porto? Parabéns pelo seu novo apartamento.
Hey, Stephen. Thank you very much! The name is Feel Porto. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thanks. I'll add them to the list.
Saw you guys last night at the Só Coffee block party 😀 🙌🏼 but my German friend refused to let me stop to say hello 😕 Glad you made this video! The sudden price increases & short term limitations were evident to me when I went to rent a place pre visa application. Happy to say I made it to Porto….but now I have to start looking again. 🤦🏻♀️
Hi Lauren! We wish you would have rejected your German friend's request to not say hello and said hello anyway. 😁 Thanks for writing though. We are glad you liked the video. We hope you find a place and next time you see us, please, say "Hey". - Josh & Kalie
I'm just curious how you guys ended up in such a time crunch to have to move
We moved out of our apartment back in May and started our 90 content creation project where we toured Portugal.
Sorry, Paul, I'm not sure where you've picked up on the channel but basically, through the summer, we toured PT and we didn't want to pay rent and be paying for 2 week accommodations everywhere we went to film. So we moved out, stored stuff with a friend in Porto, left Porto for Faro, and when we came back we stayed in a hotel with an amazing rate for 2 weeks while we finished up the 90 project with Ami & G and searched for our next place to live. There was a lot of filming that still had to happen when we got back to Porto so we tried to do as much as possible the first week so that the second week we would have time to find a place and move. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere OK, got it!
@@paulrumohr 😁 - Josh & Kalie
You can break a lease after 60% is complete without any negative consequences. So why not go for the 1 year rental? It takes months to get through the buying process anyway
Mainly because we don't like breaking contracts. We like to make our "yes" mean yes. After 6 months here, we'll go month to month or around the 4 month mark, we can re-negotiate or extend here if everyone is happy. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks,
CONGRATULATIONS 🎉🎉🎉
Did you noticed any apartment complexes that are pet free and smoke free?
Thank you.
From what we know, there's a law against pet discrimination, however, we're not 100% what all that entails. So advertising a pet free complex might be difficult. Smoke free on the other hand, we haven't noticed it, but for us personally, we haven't had any problems with smokers. One rule of thumb in our travels across Portugal and living a variety of places, the more you spend on a place, the less those kinds of things are a problem. - Josh & Kalie
You also can find good options in Gaia, I will have 3 T2 and 1 T2+1 to rent in the next 3 months, all for 600€...Nice video...
Thanks for sharing, Joel. The problem we've found with the apartments in Gaia is that they're in Gaia...and we want to live in Porto. 😊 You know what we mean? If you'd like us to possibly come over and film those apartments to show our audience of what's possible for rent in Gaia at €600/month, email us at contact@expatseverywhere.com - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Let´s wait 2 more years and let´s see when tourism get´s really Hight and you will change the way you think...Porto it´s for tourism, Gaia it´s for living...all the best for you...
@@joelpereira8425 thanks, Joel. Wish you well too.
Our D7 is at the embassy now and has been for 2 months. We are expecting to move to Porto area in October pending D7 approval. Any advice on getting a furnished place?
Sounds like you'll get your visa answer soon. There are several ways you could proceed on getting a furnished place. You could go through a property management company that has a large inventory of furnished rentals, try to find a place yourself and organize it from abroad using a site like idealista.pt or you can use a business service that acts at a buyer's agent (renter's agent in this case). They're organized virtual visits for you and help with the contract. - Josh & Kalie
Hey you 2 1/2ers…. Glad to see you found close to what you needed and what worked in the budget. I’m confused as to what happened at the last place, but hey, I confuse easily😂
Thanks! We moved out of the last place before starting our 90 day project. We didn't want to pay rent and be paying for lodging on the road because production costs for that project were high enough. We just coincided the end of our contract there with the start date of our Portugal tour. When we came back to Porto, we got a GREAT rate at the Ibis for 14 days and that gave us time to finish the project with Ami and G as well as find a place for the 2.5 of us plus Pincho to stay. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere …. We’ll that explains it… thanks. BTW, I’m scheduled for January 1 in the Tavira area…. Finally!! Hopefully we’ll meet up and I can buy ya dinner… in person!
Thank you for all you do 😁
@@vodcome You're welcome. Nice, congrats on locking in that date. We should be in Porto around then. We don't have any plans to travel at the moment. It would be nice to meet you in person. - Josh & Kalie
The cost of real property in Portual has been raised in the recent years. When do you think it is the right time to purchase a property in Portugal as an expat under D7?
The easy answer is as soon as possible. There could be a correction once more data is found out about the knock on effects of the Golden Visa program ending for the coast and metro areas. - Josh & Kalie
Hi Guys, you have mentioned an issue with places excepting dogs, does that pertain to Airbnb’s mostly or is finding a long term rental as difficult too?
Love your vlog! We are in the process of applying for our visas and preparing to move. Your videos are a lot of help. Thanks
You can find long term rentals. Our advice is don't mention any pet until you meet the agent or owner at the property. They're more likely to soften up. We're glad you're enjoying the channel. - Josh & Kalie
Loved this! The Vlog style is my favorite. That is cool that they bought the washing machine. Logistics-wise, how did you move? A large Uber? Metro? Multiple trips?
Thanks, Rebecca! We appreciate the feedback. We actually enjoy doing the vlog format too although it's not the easiest one to shoot and edit, it's at least fun. It was super cool of them to offer it and they threw in TV and Internet. They seem to really like us as renters and we really like them as landlords. You know, we didn't have much so we carried everything we had from the trip up the hill to our apartment since it's walking distance from the hotel. That took two trips. On another day, I went to Cedofeita where our friend's place is and where we stored stuff. He helped me load an Uber XL and I brought the stuff up and in making several trips in the elevator. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere oh my goodness, thanks for that thoughtful reply. I am such a logistics person and it has boggled my mind how we might move. We are not acquiring much stuff yet, but we have added an air mattress, a fan, two night lights and some hair clips (with 4 girls it is bound to accumulate). Was just super curious. You guys are rock stars with all that walking. Being only 2 weeks in, we still have to pace our walking quite a bit. We love to look at our steps each day. I am sure you guys blow us out of the water on any given day though. Hope you guys are enjoying this gorgeous day!!
@@justusewater1 you’re welcome. You’ve got this!
Newish to your channel, I must catch up! Thank you xxx
You mentioned idealista….did you switch to use that instead of going thru Liiving?
Idealista is just the listing site. Liiiving is a rental company with short, medium, and long term rentals. When we first moved, we shortlisted 10 apartments a few of them were Liiiving managed properties. We had to check to see who would accepted dogs. Of the 10 we found, 5 from Liiiving, 2 accepted dogs. We ended up in one of their apartments. On this search, we dealt with 3 real estate agents, and 2 private owners. We ended up in a place with a private owner. - Josh & Kalie
The orange car is known in Portugal as "mata velhos", and that car can be driven by people without car driver license, only on streets, no higways...
Thanks for the info. Would you drive it? 😁 - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere haha no way, usually you see them in small towns where theres not much traffic so its rare to see one in the city...
@@gracielapereda1663 our first time. So noisy! 😂
Great video. Obrigada guys :)
Thanks, Jen!! We appreciate you watching. 😁 - Josh & Kalie
Love the third apt! Also, those small Aixam cars are awesome lol
Thanks, Brian! Let us know when you all come to Porto. We'll have you around for a beer or wine. 😉 BTW is this the car you saw? commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aixam_Scouty_R_front.jpg - Josh & Kalie
the prices are crazy compared to the salarys
Very interesting ,as always . May I ask you about the situation for those wishing to spen 3-4 months in Portugal .I was in that wonderful country for two weeks back in 2019 and used a British bank card at ATMs . I was shocked to find I got one Euro for one Pound ! That works out at a 15% charge . Obviously it is not advisable to carry large amounts of cash but it seems rather difficult to open bank accounts there . Any advice ? Thank you in advance .
Hi, if you're not interested in opening a bank account in Portugal yet, our advice would be to check out Wise. We have a link in the description section or you can use this one here. transferwise.prf.hn/click/camref:1011lfsFy/ar:channelwide/destination:https%3A%2F%2Ftransferwise.com%2Fc%2Fexpatseverywhere You'll be able to open an account with Wise and order a card. This card will allow you to open up different "wallets" in your account. Open up a GBP and Euro account. You'll be able to fund the Wise account with GBP and convert it into Euros for much, much cheaper. Then you can use this card in Portugal to withdraw Euros for minimal fees. - Josh
You need to go to a pub.. and speak with locals ..
Then buy a few beers ..
They will soon tell you ..
But i am in a town outside braga.. in the north .. and they dont want or. Have no homes to rent
If you had more than what could fit in an Uber XL or two, how would you have gone about moving your stuff there? Can you rent a moving truck?
Yes, you could rent a moving truck or just get a moving service. That seems to be the most common thing it seems. We've also had friends rent a car for a day or two and move stuff. - Josh & Kalie
How did you get your visas. I’m trying. In Porto now but only have 90 days on our passports.
We got the D7 visa and have created a playlist about it in a vlog. We had to apply for it in the US. If you'd like more information, email Kalie at info@expatseverywhere.com and she'll try to help you. - Josh
It's incredibly expensive given what the average salaries are in Porto, can't believe how people can afford these prices, your view guys?
We like the price we got and think it's a far price for what's on the market. Or first place was €900/month and now listed at €1,090 so the fact we're paying €700 with internet for arguably the same neighborhood, and size of apartment, we're happy. - Josh & Kalie
I admire you both so much you grind it and get it done its so encouraging for me to see it keeps me positive for my tradition when the time comes thanks for all your info and content ✌
Thanks, Renee. Your transition here should be a little easier in regard to housing because you'll most likely need to have that sorted before getting your visa, but all the other stuff is totally doable too. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere thanks for that I hope so I’m 62 and will be solo 😬 but excited
@@K.Renee_517 You're welcome. Don't worry about age and being solo. You've got this! Let us know if we can help. - Josh & Kalie
@@K.Renee_517 … not to worry… us 62 year olds are gonna be fine. I’ll be in the Algrave for New Years Eve…. And New Year/New life in Portugal 👍
@@ExpatsEverywhere oh thank you so so much you have helped already with all your great videos and by the way I will be using bordr’s services 👍🏽
Hay guys, my wife and I are in Porto now. Just moved from Nashville. Weve talked to you on livestream a few times. Would love to buy you lunch sometime soon . Maybe we can meet up . We have a rental in Cedofeita.
Hi! Welcome to Porto. Thanks for reaching out. If you don't mind, email Kalie at info@expatseverywhere.com and she can schedule a meet up. How's that sound? Do you guys like Cedofeita? - Josh & Kalie
LOST RENT YOU ARE SO RIGHT AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF EXPATS WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING 🤔💯🙋🏾♀️
Question: To sign a one year rental agreement does one need a NIF and a Portuguese bank account?
No, when we moved, we used our passport. They could ask for your NIF though, Alex. If you have any other questions feel free to email us at info@expatseverywhere.com - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you!
@@alexgray1905 you’re welcome.
Thanks!
Gerry, thank you very much! We appreciate how you continually support the channel with your viewership, comments, and Super Thanks. It's humbling to have a supporter like you. - Josh & Kalie
Even your impromptu vids are great!
Thanks, Seamus. We're really glad that this one came together alright. We weren't sure with the shaky footage and all, but we're happy to have recorded it and delivered some information on our experience. - Josh & Kalie
you guys still looking? I have a couple that are my friends that mauyhave a very good aprtament to rent
Hi Paulo, nope, we found a place and most likely the next time we move, it'll be into a place that we've bought. We appreciate the offer though. Thanks for being a subscriber too! - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Glad I could help in any way. Keep up the good work!
@@jaebber thank you 🙏 💪
Which agency did u use to find an apt ?
We looked on a listing site, made appointment with individual agents and home owners and then selected our apartment. - Josh & Kalie
Your videos are so helpful and real. Glad you found a place.
Thank you, Jacquie. We appreciate you being a sub! You know, we try to keep it real. As real as we can be in a 10-20 minute video that was filmed across 6 hours and idk how many kilometers of walking. 😂 - Josh & Kalie
Maybe I missed it, where did you find these apartments? Which website/app? Thanks.
We found all of these on idealista.pt and we contacted the individual owners or agents ourselves. We didn't like the prices of the other options we found through the larger companies that you can rent through so we decided to work with private owners and individual agents. - Josh & Kalie
Do you need a nif to rent for 4-6months ?
Tricky question. I feel like my answer wouldn't be to the heart of the questions but I'll just answer it straight up. No, you don't need a NIF. You shouldn't. A passport would do unless you're booking through Airbnb or some other site like that. - Josh & Kalie
....Great video, keep it up!💯
Thanks, Cristina! We'll certainly try to keep it up. - Josh & Kalie
#4 was nice but no Internet, no can do.
Drop the music
I would choose #3 too!
What did you like about #3? 😁 - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere it had everything you need & seemed fairly updated.
@@terrisokolow7796 Yup, it does. We're really happy that we got something like this at a normal price. - Josh & Kalie
ABUFEIRA - ALGARVE ?
This is all in Porto. - Josh & Kalie
Not that impressed with what was on offer, I thought that Portugal was supposed to be good value for money.....this was like stepping back into the 1950's but with prices from 2021.....thanks for posting, it was informative
Part of it was the market conditions at the time but also, we've noticed you've got to pay around €900-1,200/month to get something fully renovated and modern (T1+1, T2) in the city center. You can also get cheaper than what's seen here but those are generally going to be more word of mouth kind of deals. - Josh & Kalie
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16:15 that was a Smart car.
The engine must have been modified because it made so much racket. Fortunately, the mic didn't pick it up too badly. - Josh & Kalie
That's (15:56) not a Smart, it's a Aixam or similar. Those vehicules can't be used in highways or similar roads, as its top speed is 45 km/h. Also, you don't need the normal driver's license to drive, but just a special (and simpler) license.
@@antoniof9756 Thanks for your feedback. Can you suggest a source or web site regarding “a special (and simpler) license”?
@lucchese20 Until 2005, it was very simple, it would be obtained in the local city hall (Câmara Municipal) just by answering some questions. Now you need to go to a driving school, take 28 lessons (road code), followed by a 30 questions test, have 12 (driving) lessons, followed by a driving test.
@@ExpatsEverywhere Don't think so, most of those cars are very noisy. Also, are not very safe and cost as much as a normal (cheap) car. The cheapest Aixam costs over €9000.
How about out of the city….cheaper
Yes, it is. - Josh & Kalie
I wish to relocate to Portugal 🇵🇹 , I am retired and not happy with the USA while on Social Security! I feel like I worked too hard ALL my life just to be poor on this fixed income. This is HELL!!! 👍🏽🍀✌🏽🙏🏼😇🙏🏼💖🌈🇩🇪🍀🌸🌻🌼💐🌹🌷👑
Hi James. We're sorry to hear about the situation you're in. We hope our videos help you along the way. - Josh & Kalie
You could probably live comfortably in a few other great countries. Panama, Ecuador, possibly Portugal.
@@Lat41 Thank you for the advice!!! 🤗
@@jamesthompson248 I am in a similar situation and have done lots of research. There are some great options, I think.
@@Lat41 it’s definitely not an easy decision to make indeed. Thank you, Marty!!!
I just visited Porto for nine days and looked at some apartments there. As much as I like Port wine and the Portuguese people two things stick out for me: 1) How dirty the outside of buildings look and run-down condition of the city
, 2) How tiny the apartments are especially coming from larger homes in the states. Maybe it’s just the culture of the place. I commend you for squeezing yourselves into the shoebox apartments in Porto. For me it would have to be outside the city to get square footage I need.
By contrast Spain is much more updated with gleaming buildings and streets and better bang for your buck.
These are very old but painted slum apartments.. should not be more than 300 euro . For locals.. but they are abusing the market
All of them? Prince, this is a serious question, when was the last time you were in the Porto market looking for a place to rent? - Josh
2 weeks ago .. prices went up 20% in less than 6 months everyone wants to cash in on peppercorn subsidized apartments
Americans really seem to appreciate the heritage,culture and unnorthamericanness of europe?
Seemingly, yes. The Americans that we've met that live abroad or consider moving abroad do, which might be a contributing factor for making the decision to go overseas. It's interesting to us to see things that are hundreds of years old keeping in mind our country is around 250 years old. - Josh & Kalie