Honda K20 vs K24: Which One is Better?

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  • @King_Kong_Ek9
    @King_Kong_Ek9 5 років тому +2237

    Dude, we drive Honda’s, pricing is always an issue 😂😂

    • @dangerranger5731
      @dangerranger5731 5 років тому +37

      Juan Rodríguez..... well put 🤣

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 років тому +153

      The struggle is real 😭

    • @roneman20
      @roneman20 5 років тому +12

      Juan Rodríguez I’m sick lol 😂

    • @DirtyWopBastard
      @DirtyWopBastard 5 років тому +69

      Speak for yourself. Some of us have the cheddar but just love hondas

    • @JDMHMONGBOY96
      @JDMHMONGBOY96 5 років тому +64

      Speak for yourself dude. You think all these nicely built Honda’s got poor owners? Nice parts aren’t cheap.

  • @codyc5787
    @codyc5787 5 років тому +399

    The real question... gallo 20 or gallo 24

    • @KDD8
      @KDD8 4 роки тому +23

      I live my life one cheese burger at a time, no lettuce, tomatoes, and pickles are free

    • @Key_low_TV
      @Key_low_TV 4 роки тому +11

      The movie predicted the k20 and the k24

    • @cheddarcheese8945
      @cheddarcheese8945 4 роки тому +11

      Hakasauars I give my wife a quarter inch at a time ...for those ten seconds or less I’m free lol

    • @KDD8
      @KDD8 4 роки тому +1

      @@cheddarcheese8945 HAHAHHAHAHA

    • @toddlaplanteVT85
      @toddlaplanteVT85 4 роки тому +1

      @@cheddarcheese8945 Gold

  • @griplimit
    @griplimit 5 років тому +364

    I always felt that a K20 is best for boosted applications and K24 is best for N/A applications. K20 has slightly more cylinder thickness which helps block integrity good for lots of boost and revs higher which is good for a wider power band on boost, and the k24 has extra capacity which helps give a meatier mid range for all motor setups and a potential for higher compression due more stroke.

    • @great4ever845
      @great4ever845 3 роки тому +9

      So is it the k20 that revs to 9.2k rpm ?

    • @RealLeskot
      @RealLeskot 3 роки тому +17

      @@great4ever845 Stock? No. In stock form, F20C from honda s2000 revs to 9k.
      It is proven you can make K rev this high, but it is adviced to make some upgrades.

    • @johnmitchell2269
      @johnmitchell2269 3 роки тому +40

      Turbochargers love more displacement though. Having more air go in makes sense when you have longer connecting rods to push up and down. Not only that, but turbocharged configurations are better with lower compression ratio. Given that K24's have a lower compression ratio than K20's do, I'd say a boosted K24 would be more reliable (stronger) than a boosted K20

    • @k24accord25
      @k24accord25 2 роки тому +3

      @@great4ever845 u could do a50 degree bc cam gear and a type a oil pump 💯😌

    • @kensmechanicalaffair
      @kensmechanicalaffair 2 роки тому +5

      @@great4ever845 The K24 modified can spin up to 10grand.

  • @arginpetrosian5147
    @arginpetrosian5147 5 років тому +107

    K24 Heads have relatively poor flow, I believe the intake valves are smaller. Also, you guys didn't mention but there's a golden nugget K24 that had a crankshaft with fully weighted counter weights and improved block webbing, as well as other small improvements all around. I'm referring to the 06+ TSX's K24A2. The Odyssey and Element blocks are pretty comparable but the 06+ TSX crank is the superior part. The head also has slightly more aggressive cams but they're still hindered by the lack of flow potential from the valves. Yes the counter weights make the crank a few pounds heavier, but the high end vibration stability is a well worth trade off, plus its not like a good 8-10 lbs flywheel wont counteract the extra rotational mass/ inertia.
    If you grab a K20Z1 RSX-S Head and slap it onto a 06+ K24A2 TSX block, you've got the best combination possible. Throw some cams, springs/retainers, Pistons/Rods, along with a tune and 250+ whp is easily possible, if not pretty casual now lol

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 років тому +13

      Thanks for watching 👊🏻

    • @ulisesavila2879
      @ulisesavila2879 2 роки тому +10

      Bro everything is alright except the head airflow part. It flows the same as the k20a2/z3

    • @philtitus7860
      @philtitus7860 2 роки тому +4

      K24A2 out of 06+ tsx also had larger valves to increase flow along with the larger throttle body

    • @foxamus513banger6
      @foxamus513banger6 2 роки тому +2

      I have a k24a2 bottom and k20a2 head with turbo and just above 600hp

    • @turbone54
      @turbone54 2 роки тому +9

      @@foxamus513banger6 the shit he said is false. the k24 head does not have poor flow and is practically identical to k20 head

  • @TrichbeeT
    @TrichbeeT 5 років тому +939

    K20: Im better
    K24: Nah, im better
    F22: *hold* *my* *Vtec*

    • @82raptor
      @82raptor 5 років тому +48

      I owned two of those engines! I had a K-20 in my RSX type S and the F-22-A1 in my 91 accord. My F-22 was modified but my 00 accord F-23-A1 was HEAVILY modified cranking out 300 hp NA!

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 5 років тому +102

      I don't understand this comment, the K series destroys the F22, unless you're talking about the F22C1, which isn't significantly different from the K series engines, except that it has less aftermarket support.

    • @jonthecowboy
      @jonthecowboy 5 років тому +13

      I own a k20 si and a f22 accord 4th gen. The f22 has more torque 😥, but the k20 is way more fun and faster

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 5 років тому +4

      @@jonthecowboy More torque? Compared to what version of the K20? But, yeah, the K20 is going to be faster, because the amount of torque that an engine makes doesn't really mean anything.

    • @jonthecowboy
      @jonthecowboy 5 років тому +1

      @@PistonAvatarGuy yeah it's just odd having little torque the k20 civic is a quick ass car for how cheap and stuff but the f22a4 has more lb-ft than the k20z6

  • @vasiliusmaximus2256
    @vasiliusmaximus2256 3 роки тому +31

    I would say that are probably the best 4 cylinder engines ever made. Best blend of reliability,tuning potential and price. No wonder they are swapped in everything.aftermarket is also huge for these engines.

  • @harryazzole7814
    @harryazzole7814 5 років тому +334

    Neither, K24 Frankenstein with a K20 Type S head and a 6 speed LSD Type R trans. Ultimate Honda setup.

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 років тому +25

      That would be a bad ass setup!

    • @wheresunagi760
      @wheresunagi760 5 років тому +3

      And ktuned shifter

    • @fortune1186
      @fortune1186 5 років тому +18

      he said that tho....

    • @702justin702
      @702justin702 5 років тому +12

      For race setups the FD2 type r trans is good but the final drive is terrible for street driven cars. The fa5 6 speed is the same but the 6th gear and FD ratios are better suited for street applications. Also make sure you get the 09'-11' trans as the bearings are better.

    • @Kizamime
      @Kizamime 5 років тому +1

      This is poplar amongst Element enthusiasts

  • @jarvis4675
    @jarvis4675 5 років тому +192

    The K24 is a taller block due to its stroke. That can be a problem where space is limited. Hood or oil pan clearance can be an issue.

    • @marvinhernandez7374
      @marvinhernandez7374 5 років тому +3

      Jarvis it really is I have a 9th gen Si and the oil pan sits too look the engine bay seems too crowded too

    • @Marvolous718
      @Marvolous718 5 років тому +4

      Get a moroso oil pan and it will solve that issue

    • @danyfry39946
      @danyfry39946 5 років тому +5

      This was an issue for swapping the k24 into the first generation Miata but they sell valve covers now that are shaved a little bit to fit under the hood. So it might work with other cars too.

    • @jorgecisneros867
      @jorgecisneros867 5 років тому +1

      I have a 92 eg with a k20a2 boosted with a precision turbo and yesterday i was hauling ass in 3rd gear and then accidentally shifted to 2nd gear! Smoke blew out the exhaust and now it's locked up. Do u guys think its just the head or worse?

    • @bignis88
      @bignis88 5 років тому

      Dry sump

  • @boosted_l6787
    @boosted_l6787 5 років тому +225

    My cousin had a k24 bottom and k20 head, that thing was insane

    • @mrcwoodworks4523
      @mrcwoodworks4523 5 років тому +117

      I bet he mowed so much grass it broke a record

    • @motolifealways
      @motolifealways 5 років тому +13

      I need to do this to my element lol.

    • @a91editionsupra14
      @a91editionsupra14 5 років тому +26

      So do I I have a k24a2 k20a2 6 speed 91 prelude fully built 11:1 all motor .20

    • @boosted_l6787
      @boosted_l6787 5 років тому +3

      @@a91editionsupra14 man those things are such an awesome motor, loud as hell and they always surprise people trying to race you haha

    • @boosted_l6787
      @boosted_l6787 5 років тому +2

      @@a91editionsupra14 and that 6 speed is amazing too

  • @silverrain99205
    @silverrain99205 4 роки тому +166

    I don’t drive a Honda. I just wanted to learn more lol

  • @lucky9er567
    @lucky9er567 2 роки тому +27

    Been wanting to build an ef hatch for almost 20 years. A couple years ago I finally got the car for a good price and just last week I got a salvaged 2013 civic si. Can’t wait to figure out how to get that k24 into that ef. I have a feeling that 205 hp and a 6 speed are going to be amazing in that little civic.

    • @DEIFAN
      @DEIFAN Рік тому +2

      I plan on putting a K24 in my EM2

  • @-gnicE-
    @-gnicE- 5 років тому +116

    K24's are about to get super cheap in Canada, 2007-11 CRV's rear sub frames are all rotting out and being condemned.

    • @Questchaun
      @Questchaun 5 років тому +26

      🙏 we coming for them blocks!

    • @darnellquesnel1832
      @darnellquesnel1832 5 років тому +9

      I live in vermont, which is basically canada, k series are cheap af here!

    • @jamesm8978
      @jamesm8978 5 років тому +1

      Illinois just got hit with snow so the salt on the roads rusted out like all the Honda’s. K24 here I come.

    • @maxmart7690
      @maxmart7690 5 років тому

      Dont all the mid 2000 accords have them too?

    • @highspeedenthusiast6628
      @highspeedenthusiast6628 5 років тому +1

      @@darnellquesnel1832 how about you throw a bone on one of those cheap-ass blocks homie

  • @autocrossstar17
    @autocrossstar17 5 років тому +27

    I have a 14 Si and I’ve had B Series cars. A also had a friend who had an RSX-S. I love the low-end grunt of the 24 but the 20 is so much more fun with the more pronounced switch-over and 8k redline.

    • @Senza_1
      @Senza_1 Рік тому

      My first car was a type s. I LOVED. that engine. I want to swap it into something to feel that high rpm again

  • @bobbydelamar606
    @bobbydelamar606 3 роки тому +19

    K24A2. I have currently just installed one in my 1989 CRX. 6 speed LSD transmission. 👍

    • @Theanswer0000
      @Theanswer0000 3 роки тому +2

      What I"m thinking about doing. Please share your review and total cost minus car. :)

    • @bobbydelamar606
      @bobbydelamar606 3 роки тому +2

      @@Theanswer0000 I might have to dig for receipts. The 1989 CRX was $900. I bought the engine and transmission (The whole car)already together from a 2006 junkyard Civic SI. Someone had swapped out the K20 that was in there. Whole car was $1500, I sold pieces I didn't need and kept what I wanted.

    • @bobbydelamar606
      @bobbydelamar606 3 роки тому +2

      @@Theanswer0000 CRX not running yet but engine and transmission are installed. I have to convert it from auto to manual. I of course need an ECM. I bought (but haven't installed) Hush perf. clutch pedal assy., Hybrid Racing no cut shift box, throttle body and Karcepts adapter plate, Hush perf. hydro clutch conversion with master cylinder and hoses, cheap Ebay track bar, axles. Its a work in progress lol.

    • @bobbydelamar606
      @bobbydelamar606 3 роки тому +1

      @@Theanswer0000 ua-cam.com/video/jS4qwUfMPRw/v-deo.html

    • @Theanswer0000
      @Theanswer0000 3 роки тому +1

      @@bobbydelamar606 big thanks!

  • @chrisparker9837
    @chrisparker9837 2 роки тому +4

    I remember when a k swap just started. I was part of one of the first clubs to have a k20A jdm swap in an 95 EG! It was amazing!

  • @shancyroesner9212
    @shancyroesner9212 5 років тому +78

    I’ll go with the k20 because of the high revving

    • @jattack9972
      @jattack9972 4 роки тому +10

      Also, a k20 holds boost much better due to it having a shorter stroke. You have de-stroke a k24 a lot to have a reliable high whp motor. My buddy is boosted in his k24 and he can't even go over 10 psi of boost but I've seen stock k20a's go over 12 🤔 I can care less for torque in a FWD car you'll just spin of the line

    • @shawnsta7779
      @shawnsta7779 4 роки тому

      @@jattack9972 depends on the chassis it's on and how you launch.. most races aren't off the line tho and when your going up a hill or in low rpm, torque is king!

    • @jattack9972
      @jattack9972 4 роки тому +4

      @@shawnsta7779 yeah but, torque in a FWD does you no good in all perspectives. Off the line nor at high rpm does a k24 does any good if you're spinning. Torque for FWD also causes under steer, that's also why Honda went back to the k20. It's a more versatile motor and 12 or 15 more torque really won't give you a upper advantage but the k20a can make so much more power in the mid and high rev range which in any cases you'll always be in while in hill climbing, autocross, circuit, drag etc... Also, k20's are a much better motor for holding boost then a k24 in all standards. So it all comes to preference at the end of the day, k24 is the perfect N/A build while the k20 is the best boost motor. It's all in what you wanna do honestly but in my preference is choose the k20 Because of it's balance, high revs, and boost capability

    • @shawnsta7779
      @shawnsta7779 4 роки тому +2

      @@jattack9972 you sound so butthurt holy shit lmao. K24 when tuned would make like 40 ft Ibs more torque. Also k24 is a great engine for the tsx or accord chassis because it's meant to handle such a big 4 cylinder. For a true race car a k24 NA is the best balance and power overall.

    • @ovidiofs1
      @ovidiofs1 4 роки тому +2

      I have an k24z and i got 385 wph lots of power....

  • @josephzaja9210
    @josephzaja9210 5 років тому +22

    I drive ek with k20, k24, k24/20. All motor build. K24/20 all day best!! But when you build engine take care of all parts and build. Buy all new parts and do it like factory build. Best gear,tran, k20 gears only 6 speed from k24 and f.d 4.38. Best for street use. Cheers!!

    • @michaeldavidmontalvo2402
      @michaeldavidmontalvo2402 5 років тому

      Not everyone can buy new parts tho my guy

    • @josephzaja9210
      @josephzaja9210 5 років тому +2

      @@michaeldavidmontalvo2402 then check cranck,cams,chain, rod bearings, oil pump, oil cooler and all parts you can.. with this builds allways problems if you are not checking parts.. same with trans.. best!

  • @BVM03
    @BVM03 5 років тому +14

    I'm doing a k20 swap and a turbocharged k24 into Pontiac Fiero's. I am trying to learn all specifics about Hondas. I cant let all the k swapped MR2's have all the fun! These engines have so much potential, its crazy!

    • @BeADad2447
      @BeADad2447 9 місяців тому

      On a fiero? Get a 4.0 from an Olds Aurora! Think bolts to the original transmission?

    • @BVM03
      @BVM03 9 місяців тому

      @BeADad2447 because the 4.0 Olds v8, while ok for what it is, doesn't have 1/10th the aftermarket support of a k series. People that do the Northstar, Olds v8, 4.9 caddy etc do them for the v8 wow factor. They make cool cruisers. I've done 2 of those 3 swaps. It's just not what I want. I like the idea of a high revving engine in my "sports car". GM should of offered the LQ1 v6 from the get go. Atleast that would have been better than the boat anchor Duke and 2.8 v6.

  • @PiroFyre
    @PiroFyre 5 років тому +84

    Aww you missed the 9th gen Civic that had a K24. The extra torque made it a really nice daily driver.

    • @straightupgutta
      @straightupgutta 5 років тому +5

      Ya but manifold was shit out that car. Definite rbc swap

    • @christopherrogers8316
      @christopherrogers8316 5 років тому +14

      cuz it aint the good k24, the k24a2 is king

    • @PiroFyre
      @PiroFyre 5 років тому +6

      Don't know about the manifold being "shit". How it was designed, it was more aimed towards on producing more torque and keeping that torque in the low end. If you want more all motor power, than the 9th gen platform isn't too good for this. Also depends what your end goal is with a car. For me, I kept my 9th gen completely stock with just brakes and tires and did nothing but autox and track with it. The torque really helps with corner exit in a higher gear compared to staying in the lower gear on an 8th gen, topping out the rev limiter on corner exits.

    • @PiroFyre
      @PiroFyre 5 років тому +5

      Both motors are pretty similar to each other but if all you want to do is wrench and try to make more power out of these motors, then yes, K24A2 would be a better fit. I personally tracked and autoxed my 9th gen completely stock and I had no complaints with it's power and torque delivery on track. The motor responds great even though it was an e-throttle. Driven many other e-throttles before I gotten my 9th gen (even drove a TSX Type-S) and the 9th gen had a great responding motor that's similar to the 8th gen. It made it great to heel-toe.

    • @gsfbffxpdhhdf7043
      @gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 5 років тому +2

      PiroFyre lol u idiots talking about track racing 200hp stock hondas lol. Dude my 94z28 camaro stock would destroy you and not even be trying. Handled so much better too

  • @paulstevens9409
    @paulstevens9409 5 років тому +5

    A K24 with a reflash is a fantastic engine...from 2000 rpm - 7600, there is no let up til it hits the limiter, just pure power...and that is in the heavier accord

  • @crashmanjones7286
    @crashmanjones7286 5 років тому +24

    Love your breakdowns man! Very informative and love your pace and delivery. No fluff or BS. Excellent stuff!

  • @seankaarlie3854
    @seankaarlie3854 5 років тому +7

    K24 with k20z3 head seems to be quite strong. No expenses spared on internals, 12.9to 1 fully balanced bottom end, h beam rods and all arp fasteners, recommend doing the s2000 oil pump upgrade. The k24 at 8k+ is quite a handful between gears.

  • @jeremy9750
    @jeremy9750 5 років тому +65

    Great video! The K series are my favorite 4 cylinder engines without a doubt

  • @TrueDiaboli
    @TrueDiaboli 5 років тому +13

    One thing you mentioned at 4:00 is that the k24 from element/accord is preferred with a head swap. You overlooked that you would need to change the pistons out because the accord/element ones would hit the valves on the k20 head. I have heard more about people using a crv block and swapping parts off a k20a2.

  • @stevenhoffman5134
    @stevenhoffman5134 3 роки тому +8

    I had an 04 element EX that I totalled by hitting 2 elk in September last year but the engine still ran great just a lot of body damage to the front and now have an 02 rsx type-s finding out the k24 bottom+k20head would have been great I should've kept my element when I was paid out by insurance and taken a cut on the payout and combined the engines! Damn

  • @gryphon123456
    @gryphon123456 5 років тому +6

    I had a K20 in my RSX-S and my GF has a K24 in her Civic SiR and the K20 felt better when the VTec kicked in. Hers was fine but the switch over was smoother and not as exciting. K20 vote switch feels like a turbo. And the sounds at higher RPM sounded amazing.

  • @ctrldmnz6242
    @ctrldmnz6242 4 роки тому +6

    A k24a2 with a simple type S oil pump is loads of fun and u can rev to the sky!

  • @danr1920
    @danr1920 3 роки тому +3

    My '14 K24 Accord is factory stock and it's impressive. I had no idea about the potential of these engines. Also the Accord has the 6 speed manual.

    • @kevinwhiting8391
      @kevinwhiting8391 2 роки тому +1

      You got to get the 2 l turbo accord with a 6-speed that's where it's at

  • @mikehunt7483
    @mikehunt7483 5 років тому +19

    I reminds me, back in the day import guys used to talk about b16 heads on a b18.. or something like that

    • @Dc5Bullet
      @Dc5Bullet 5 років тому +4

      Or b16/b18 vtec heads on a b20 block hence b20vtec

    • @Tsalinger
      @Tsalinger 5 років тому +1

      It has to do with the size of the ports and parts availability. That combo has been used up and good parts are harder to find. Dart still makes an improved B-series block at a pretty reasonable price. They can also take more boost pressure than a stock K-series.

    • @gapyrodawg5181
      @gapyrodawg5181 4 роки тому +1

      Didn't that start with the H-Series. I remember people putting the 2.0 heads on the 2.2 blocks from preludes and accords and Adding turbos. The B-18 DOHC wasn't available here then I thought. It was all SOHC's back then. The B-16 was only in the Del Sol and eventually the Civic SI
      Whoops forgot all about the 170hp B-18 in the Integra GSR😂😂

  • @tadlockje
    @tadlockje 5 років тому +4

    Great video, just one minor correction. "The K20 provides plenty enough power to push a lightweight Honda around...". As the overwhelming majority of Hondas are front wheel drive, you're actually pulling it around, not pushing it.

    • @LemonSix
      @LemonSix 5 років тому +1

      wtf dude

    • @nb1223
      @nb1223 2 роки тому

      @@LemonSix 🤣

  • @danbrooks7
    @danbrooks7 5 років тому +3

    I can't watch this because I have to study right now. But I liked your video because I love this substantiative conversation. 😃😃😃

  • @bw1583
    @bw1583 5 років тому +5

    I just picked up a k24a2 for my del sol, cant wait to swap it in!

    • @MikeKollin
      @MikeKollin 4 місяці тому

      How did it go? I have a Del Sol and was wondering which engine would be best to put in it!
      How much horse power?

  • @williamanthony3739
    @williamanthony3739 5 років тому +8

    On a hp per litre ratio only the latest and top tier Type R, K series engines beat the older B series engines B16a, b16b and B18c (Gsr and Type R) versions.
    Goes to show the B is still formidable and relevant as what they lose in total power they gain by being the more economical engines.

    • @TheShift1313
      @TheShift1313 2 роки тому +1

      Back in 01 a buddy had a black type r that he turboed. It was a great car before the turbo but mental after. The b18c was a great motor but cars got heavier and needed the tq numbers.

  • @gherbers
    @gherbers 5 років тому +7

    Fantastic video. I’ve spent 15 years around K-series Hondas, and I still learned some things. Well organized and concise information. Nice job!

  • @chrissikora8097
    @chrissikora8097 5 років тому +4

    As an old-school EF guy, I'm much more fond of the B-series for these reasons: - Rod linkage shifter. - cable clutch - more simple & practical layout for service - more noticable v-tec changeover!!! K series dont have the same "driver feedback" feel!!!!!

    • @jimbojims
      @jimbojims 5 років тому

      Chris Sikora
      That’s cause you’ve never driven a K20A, probably only the North American spec k20’s. I assure the k29A shits on any North American K20A2,Z3 etc

    • @chrissikora8097
      @chrissikora8097 5 років тому +1

      Im not trying to say that a B series "out-performs" a K series. im saying that I strongly prefer the rod & clevis B series shift linkage, as opposed to the 2 cable K-series linkage. you can feel the sychro's in the tranny! you feel like a "part" of the machine rather than just the operator.

    • @jesselee4405
      @jesselee4405 3 роки тому +1

      @@chrissikora8097 I run a k24 frank motor in my rsx with bolt-ons. The cross over is pretty stout; I'd say on par with a B. Anyway, I love Honda.

  • @dangusprime
    @dangusprime 5 років тому +2

    K24!! I swapped my 2nd TSX K24 into my 8th gen Civic SI (FG2), replacing the stock K20z3, and it is a completely different animal. It is the engine that should've come with the car.

    • @dangusprime
      @dangusprime 5 років тому

      I would say though that I feel as though the K24 would have too much low end power for a lighter Honda, like an EG or EK, in which I would opt for a K20

  • @EASTNSIM9454
    @EASTNSIM9454 5 років тому +4

    loved the K24 I had in my 17 accord, but the CVT ruined the entire experience. also noted that the intake manifold was on the fire wall side while the block had the 4 exhaust exits built into it and lead to a singular exhaust exit. it was kind of odd.
    just switched to a 19 civic sport 6MT. couldn't be happier with my decision to get the K20 instead of the 1.5T, especially with soflo weather.

  • @kailexx1962
    @kailexx1962 4 роки тому +1

    I remember that a tuner in Greece swapped a K20 into an Austin Mini. That was a sweet build.

  • @gabrielblair9989
    @gabrielblair9989 5 років тому +14

    I owned an 04 K24a2 with a Jackson Racing Supercharger 6-7psi before owning my two K20's. The blown K24 was in a 2600lb EP3. I didnt use a k20 head it was fast and tuned well. However the K24 does not have the same rev matching raise hell feel a K20 does. I was jelly over my boy's blown K20a2 then...
    I went to a EG K20a2 swap and did IPS K2 cams, Eibach VS, handported head, RRC 87mm pistons, ported RBC, maxbore TB, RCrew header, 3" E, 3" ram air intake, kpro...just a bit over 250whp. Hybrid Racing cables too...Turned it into a downpayment on a home.
    Now I got a DC5-S. The K20 can be rev matched and driven like a cheap whore just a pounding away on a road course. The K24 likes it slow and ruff getting the job done. The K20 is like a really tiny hot piece of ass that like to be thrown around the bedroom and doesn't break under pounding. Just free up the mid-range and top end. Or do a 2.2L stroker with cams forged internals boom

    • @luissoto413
      @luissoto413 3 роки тому

      bro.... i need help with my build... you in cali??

  • @SATO_FD2R
    @SATO_FD2R 5 років тому +39

    *_I like my FD2’s K20 better!_*

    • @Coin_Strategist
      @Coin_Strategist 5 років тому +3

      JDM versions always better

    • @cyberrr9489
      @cyberrr9489 5 років тому

      Haha me too, JDM ftw

    • @RACESPECLICKY
      @RACESPECLICKY 5 років тому

      I’ve just got back my fn2 with new cams and fd2 pump it is slightly noisy but my gosh the engine spins up nice now.

    • @ricardok2097
      @ricardok2097 5 років тому

      And my Ep3 K20a2 better

    • @kseriesdan9722
      @kseriesdan9722 4 роки тому

      Pretty happy with my base model ek hatch with jdm dc5 r engine but I just now want the rrc manifold and I'd be happy

  • @jumbie4972
    @jumbie4972 5 років тому +9

    J32 gang!!! I'm older so I love the h22 and f20. When h22 came out people were hyped about it like the k series.

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 років тому

      Nice, thanks for watching!

    • @bear420allday3
      @bear420allday3 5 років тому +1

      Yup I'm old school Honda had a jdm h22 in my four door Integra blowing doors off mustangs and eclipse oh the 90s so much fun

    • @cityborncountrybred
      @cityborncountrybred 5 років тому +1

      I still have a f20b vtec in my cb7 one of my favorite dailies

    • @IND4GR0V3
      @IND4GR0V3 5 років тому +1

      j32a2 and j32a3 are my favorites, that j37a4 and a5 tho, had a 03 cls6spd

    • @jumbie4972
      @jumbie4972 5 років тому +1

      @@IND4GR0V3 nice it's rare to find a CL types in my area. Great engine my fav.

  • @Questchaun
    @Questchaun 5 років тому +5

    A k24 bottom and a k20 head. Best combo ever.

  • @antrinh5525
    @antrinh5525 5 років тому +5

    k24 all the way, i like the low end useable torque and throttle respond from the k24.

    • @great4ever845
      @great4ever845 3 роки тому

      Is that the one that revs to 9.2 rpm?

  • @TheGerbsteve
    @TheGerbsteve 5 років тому +1

    Just picked up a JDM k24a for $700.00. Currently ripping my k20z3 fg2, but I can’t wait to feel the 2.4L tq 🤘🏼.. Will always love the k20 revs

  • @mikef2492
    @mikef2492 4 роки тому +6

    Being a guy who loves his dads DC5 great video. You need to do a video on EJ vs FA engines in the Subaru ! Your break downs are concise and straight to the point awesome stuff

  • @silenthaiku5092
    @silenthaiku5092 5 років тому +2

    My sleeper accord k24 turbo suprises all them V8 bios! Love it!

  • @garybulwinkle82
    @garybulwinkle82 5 років тому +6

    We used to put 396 heads on 454s back in the day, to increase the compression ratio (CR). Sounds like what your doing putting the k20 heads on the k24. For supercharged engines, it may be beneficial to put the k24 heads on the k20 to LOWER the CR. With lower CR, you can run more boost before having to deal with detonation issues!

    • @AcuraLvR82
      @AcuraLvR82 Рік тому

      Some people have actually done this with pretty good results.

    • @trailerparkcryptoking5213
      @trailerparkcryptoking5213 Рік тому

      As long as the 396 heads were closed chamber 98 cc and not open chamber 118 cc. But the closed chamber heads shrouded the intake valve and decreased head flow. To solve this you can plunge cut the chamber wall to unshroud the intake valve. Ask me how I know...I have a set of closed chamber oval port 702’s (396/427) on my 454 with proper quench distance 0.038” and running flat top pistons. It has massive torque in my C10 and will outrun those supercharged dodge TRX trucks with 700 HP. They get pissed....😂

  • @bobbybandz9194
    @bobbybandz9194 4 роки тому +1

    24 for street,20 for road course etc the better rod ratio gives a motor longevity(potentially/in theory) in those conditions.

  • @AS-fm6iw
    @AS-fm6iw 5 років тому +270

    K24 is way cheeper then k20 man

    • @freestyleskyline
      @freestyleskyline 5 років тому +10

      No actually they're about the same. I sell both.

    • @christopherrogers8316
      @christopherrogers8316 5 років тому +9

      @@freestyleskyline k24a1 i see all the time for 3-400. only k20s for that price are usually k20a3, which arnt prized :c

    • @freestyleskyline
      @freestyleskyline 5 років тому +5

      @@christopherrogers8316 I've sold JDM engines for awhile. They're about the same. K20 bout 400-500 - k24 500-1000 and then the few performance k20s that pop up 1k to like 2500

    • @AS-fm6iw
      @AS-fm6iw 5 років тому +4

      Im talking jdm top performance. Theres way more k24 engines out there that your mama drives but not even close to enough when it comes to k20 type r thats why k20 is more money and harder to find

    • @Jamxknife
      @Jamxknife 5 років тому +5

      @@AS-fm6iw In the US there's the k20a2, k20z1 and k20z3 that are virtually identical. Between those 3 I'd say that z3 is the most common, and the most advanced. The a3 is a joke

  • @YZYE
    @YZYE 3 місяці тому

    My current daily is a JDM EP3 pre-facelift in Champ White; I’ve just bought an EG5 with a B16 Turbo pushing 230-240 - I’m about to pay a proper brilliant guy to K24 Frank it, hopefully I’ll push 280 NA, then it’ll be all done haha. Great video.

  • @lunafreyanightingale81
    @lunafreyanightingale81 5 років тому +6

    I'm tooling around in my 02 crv with k24a1, precision turbo. Only thing that sucks is there is no aftermarket for 2nd gen Crvs.

  • @timetowakeup6302
    @timetowakeup6302 4 роки тому +1

    My 2010 Accord has the K24 engine and it's served me very well. 225K miles later and I've never done anything to her except for 1 new pair of spark plugs. The rest is all original. Full Synthetic Oil changes every 10K and she runs clean. Hoping to take her well over the 300K mark.

  • @ransackmaori5725
    @ransackmaori5725 5 років тому +18

    I'll stay with my k20a.

    • @TheYakkis
      @TheYakkis 5 років тому +2

      The best one is the one you already have

    • @ransackmaori5725
      @ransackmaori5725 5 років тому +1

      @@TheYakkis it's only the euroR though but I still Love it :)

    • @ryanvtec3885
      @ryanvtec3885 5 років тому

      K20a2 would be a nice upgrade to my rsx

  • @Freaki91
    @Freaki91 3 роки тому +1

    I tryed an eg5 hatchback with a k24 swap. The hood was raised just so the engine could fit in.
    When the car was idling and you look at it from the ousite you could see the entire chasis where shaking because of the big engine :)
    For me the eg civic with k24 swap was more fun than a mk4 supra tt.

  • @aaronp9835
    @aaronp9835 5 років тому +16

    K24 all damn day. More displacement and much more torque.

    • @highspeedenthusiast6628
      @highspeedenthusiast6628 5 років тому

      My Z3 poops all over your 24's

    • @manccarguy
      @manccarguy 4 роки тому

      Aaron P but I like High revving Hondas.

    • @thatonecarguydirk4803
      @thatonecarguydirk4803 4 роки тому +2

      HighSpeedEnthusiast Joining NASA's new team of space engineers to have a great view of earth so we can easily see who tf asked

  • @TheVQed
    @TheVQed 3 роки тому +1

    K20A because of rod lenght ratio. But I reall love my K24/20A 12:1comp fully built at 274.9/213wheel

  • @KappaCow
    @KappaCow 5 років тому +3

    thanks for the educational video. Love my 05' TSX! My only complaint is I just wish they sounded better :/ k20 sounds way better

    • @amirparvez5415
      @amirparvez5415 3 роки тому

      Funny how I have 03 rsx type s and I think the k24a2 sounds better 🤣 , sounds more deep and mean (at least when modded)

    • @bernieg7355
      @bernieg7355 2 роки тому

      @@amirparvez5415 06 and up tsx sound mean af. 04-05 not so much.

  • @morreracingteam6004
    @morreracingteam6004 5 років тому +1

    Got Crx with D16 dohc engine, blew a head gasket, going to rebuild it with better camshafts and adjustable timing wheels Got allready head ported and arp bolts ect, planning push 8500rpm and around 180-200whp. Novtec kicks in. 😉

    • @danielbrookes2938
      @danielbrookes2938 5 років тому +1

      MorreRacing Team thats sounds like it'll be a lot of fun. I've also got a d16a9 powered crx. And a spare engine which I am planning on building up at some point. Certainly never swapping a k series into mine. Great engines but not a fan of k swaps in crx's

  • @TerranceINKEmoses
    @TerranceINKEmoses 5 років тому +4

    Very good! Lots of info! I have the k24/k20, and its boss

  • @Flyingdutchy33
    @Flyingdutchy33 10 місяців тому +1

    Having owned a B16A2 for 10+ years and driven half a million kms and redlining it wherever I go without fail, I'm inclined to go with the K20 because it has less stroke. I'm firmly convinced my B16 lasted this long precisely because of that short stroke, bringing down the mean piston speed considerably. With that said, I'm keen to hear how well the K24 stands up to serious abuse. Anybody with experience on this front?

    • @jasonpoletta1797
      @jasonpoletta1797 10 місяців тому

      100%
      When an engine has a square bore/stroke ratio it is superior

  • @bman409
    @bman409 5 років тому +3

    I still got me a B18B1, non-VTEC and I still love it.

  • @crxk20r59
    @crxk20r59 5 років тому +7

    Great video! K24 block definitely has more “potential.” Remember the old saying “there’s no replacement for displacement.” Well people, the law of physics says this will always be true.

  • @JustAwesome2020
    @JustAwesome2020 5 років тому +5

    I love my K20C4 👌🏼

  • @joeygonzalez2601
    @joeygonzalez2601 5 років тому +1

    K24a2 is my engine of choice when it comes to power, availability and price. You can put a oil pump from a type s and it will be able to rev to 8300, I've seen people run the limiter higher than that but I don't have that much confidence in the rod bolts

    • @brunomanco7529
      @brunomanco7529 5 років тому

      U shouldnt rev a k24 higher than 7800. All the ones here that rev up to 8500 have blown up in 2 or 3 track days. But theres 2 from the shop i take my car that have made countless track days revying just to 8000 for the past 2 years, only with frequent oil change and valve lash check

    • @keithcannon3682
      @keithcannon3682 3 роки тому

      Put a ported k20 oil pump and build the engine right you can rev to over 9k all day long. Leave that stock k24 oil pump with balance shafts in there and your engine will be toast!
      K24a2....best 4 cyl ever made.
      Honda is going backwards with this "earth dreams" crap!

  • @jimbojims
    @jimbojims 5 років тому +6

    Proud owner of a JDM EP3 Type R,
    K20A motor revs to 9k, matched with the type R gears and helical LSD makes an absolutely amazing all around car.
    JDM k20A shits on all other k series. Trust me

    • @lukeyboy01
      @lukeyboy01 5 років тому

      Still slow

    • @hauntedhillsgaming2265
      @hauntedhillsgaming2265 5 років тому

      truth. proud owner of a DC5 Type-R. such an amazing performing car. mine revs all the way out to 9500rpms. yeah a k24 would be nice for the low end but the high end of 9500rpms is some magic added to the driving experience. reminds me of a sport bike lol

  • @jtotheace1
    @jtotheace1 Рік тому

    I picked a K24A2 with ported head and Precision 5858 turbo. It revs to 7k RPM and makes an easy ~500whp. There are some reported issues using a K20 head and K24 block.

  • @2_2_4_3
    @2_2_4_3 5 років тому +10

    K20 higher revving.... I'll go with that. K20 bore up . Now only if I had $10 K laying around. .

    • @SR22VET-S15
      @SR22VET-S15 5 років тому

      @Anonymous k24 with k20 valve train (still k24 head) and k20 oil pump will see 8500rpm

    • @SR22VET-S15
      @SR22VET-S15 5 років тому

      @Anonymous with stock oil pump and stock valve train 8200 is possible with a tune its still fairly high considering it has a very long stroke, if you want to see higher revs (8500) need k20a valve train and oil pump, i agree with you though, you wont be seeing more than 8200 with just a tune

  • @vicenteesquer1227
    @vicenteesquer1227 3 роки тому

    My 89 CRX HF only weighs 2600lbs.... so with a K24 and K20 head it will be flying basically! Good video and information!

  • @manololucas9951
    @manololucas9951 5 років тому +5

    Thinking of the k20/k24
    Any thoughts of my current setup. K24A2 engine
    TSX camshafts
    VTC camgear
    RBC intake manifold
    Civic Si ECU

    • @TylerBonenfant
      @TylerBonenfant 5 років тому

      i have an 07 tsx, trying to slowly save up money and buy stuff. i have a dc header and flp test pipe, 50 degree vtc, and rbc manifold just sitting around rn. have a pin set coming in for my vtc, hoping to do a custom single exit exhaust, and trying to save money for some skunk2 cams and hondata so i have a reason to put it all together. should really wake it the fuck up lmao

    • @jesselee4405
      @jesselee4405 3 роки тому

      Sounds great!

  • @chadwickwicky67
    @chadwickwicky67 Місяць тому

    Had both , still have a k series, gotta love both but the K series fun factor is what tips the scale for me.

  • @tajlewis1064
    @tajlewis1064 5 років тому +4

    Sorry still can’t go wrong with a b20v and for those who don’t know what that is it’s a b20 block from a crv with a b16 head from a Honda Civic Si 👍 cheaper and plenty easy to work with

    • @JAWZPB
      @JAWZPB 5 років тому

      Until your timing belt snaps then you have to replace pistons and valves. Timing chain is more secure

    • @morreracingteam6004
      @morreracingteam6004 5 років тому

      Use kevlar timingbelt.

    • @Lej206
      @Lej206 5 років тому

      You could use a b18c1/5 head also but don’t be surprised when you crack a sleeve on a mildly modded b20v

  • @FyvX5
    @FyvX5 4 роки тому

    Ive had B20s, F22, D15, a D17- which is now a D18.... And now a K24. I absolutely Love how much torque there is and the higher revs. But i still want a K20! Nothing beats the sound of that Square motor revving up to 8k’s!! Oh yeah.... I will have it! Swap or Stock, either way.

  • @mechanicandi1064
    @mechanicandi1064 5 років тому +7

    K24 is better 💯💯💯🙏

  • @rockon163
    @rockon163 5 років тому +1

    I just installed a kraftwerks supercharger to my 9th gen civic, shit is insane, so far pulled on every v8 I've come across (mustangs and comaros, still haven't gone against a Corvette) and still have room for improvement if I go e85, k series is by far the best bang for buck 4 banger

  • @masonscott2341
    @masonscott2341 5 років тому +31

    i bought a 07 k24a2 engine for 350 you cant find a k20a2 for less than 1000.. your backwards on your prices

    • @salimkhanjm1457
      @salimkhanjm1457 5 років тому

      U can get a whole car i.e accord with k25 with MT in India about 1000 dollars infact u can do bargaining as well

    • @oldsklteg
      @oldsklteg 5 років тому

      Exactly 👍

    • @vastaire81
      @vastaire81 4 роки тому

      thought I was the only one who noticed that.... k20s are harder to find and more expensive than k24s. You can find a k24 at almost any salvage yard for cheap, meaning less than 1000 easy.

    • @speedfuzion1
      @speedfuzion1 4 роки тому

      @@vastaire81 only the eco vtec k24 is easy to find and cheap, but k24a2 which the cost double in price, I'm lucky to have one seating in my garage

  • @stevekeenan9673
    @stevekeenan9673 3 роки тому

    I was eyeballing a $500 longblock k24a2 swap for my carbd 86 crx hardtop...but only saw a k20z1 installed 1st gen... Thx for the vid

  • @ibntariq4457
    @ibntariq4457 5 років тому +3

    So can you explain why people do a k20/k24 frank build? With combining the k20/k24 can you still rev high on it?

    • @Ephem13
      @Ephem13 5 років тому

      K20 heads are everywhere and fairly cheap and easy to work with, good k24 heads are hard to find and require more work, it was covered briefly in the video.

  • @angrut
    @angrut 5 років тому +1

    It's 2019, those engines give me so much memories, thank you for making this video I'm thinking about it again

  • @l337l0gan
    @l337l0gan 5 років тому +5

    K series, in general, is the best designed inline 4 cylinder engine of all time so far....

  • @Drake5153
    @Drake5153 5 років тому +2

    You should cover the newer k series heads and how their limiting in every application including turbocharging.

  • @hammerhome7879
    @hammerhome7879 5 років тому +3

    Whats a realistic HP number for a K24/K20 head swap with a tune?

  • @trueno76
    @trueno76 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this, I need to get rid of my b16a and I’ve been looking at k20 and k24’s but wondered why there was such a price difference. I don’t know what I’m doing so a k20a sounds like the better choice for me.

  • @CaptainCaveManz
    @CaptainCaveManz 5 років тому +59

    Where are you finding the k20 cheaper than the k24???

    • @rolandoroquefl2836
      @rolandoroquefl2836 5 років тому +7

      K20 is actually more expensive than a K24 you should do a video how to use the internals of a K20 to a k24 head

    • @balistict0fu842
      @balistict0fu842 5 років тому +2

      Sad to say that the k24 I've seen up over 2000+ hp and it's cheaper lol

    • @musshwins412
      @musshwins412 5 років тому +9

      @@balistict0fu842 link to this 2000 hp k24?
      JDM k20a type r will be the most expensive k on the market. usdm k20a3 will be the cheapest k20. K24a2 will be the most expensive k24. it will still be at least a thousand less than the jdm k20a type r. k24a4 will be the cheapest k24 on the market.

    • @michaeldeadwyler4034
      @michaeldeadwyler4034 5 років тому +1

      Becauze you can find a k24 element full block all over the place and swap internals

    • @johnathanrollings109
      @johnathanrollings109 5 років тому +2

      I think hes referring to the total swap price when using a k24. I'm putting a k24 in my 91 civic atm and some things I've had to buy, I wouldnt have to if I would have went with a k20.

  • @2old666
    @2old666 Рік тому

    Thank you for making this video. I still have so many questions about what my choice will be but this really helps break it down into a better decision making model. Thanks again!!

  • @rudysalas9138
    @rudysalas9138 5 років тому +5

    K24 TSX for the win!

  • @kylewilliamson6228
    @kylewilliamson6228 5 років тому

    Finishing up my k20z1 turbo swap in my dc2 today. Nice video

    • @kylewilliamson6228
      @kylewilliamson6228 5 років тому

      Arthur Wall I plan to hurt all feelings precision 6765 controlled by an AEM Infinity

  • @maddog063
    @maddog063 5 років тому +9

    K20Z3 says hi.

    • @NormalMonkey
      @NormalMonkey 5 років тому +1

      @Bryce Czirr Actually i made 157 torques with just and header's and a Tune with my Si

    • @christopherrogers8316
      @christopherrogers8316 5 років тому +2

      @Bryce Czirr you comment some of the dumbest shit. i seen you comment on a 300 hp NA k series build and you said" thats not even hard to do since most turbo 4 bangers these days make that already" lol

    • @tripleemce5003
      @tripleemce5003 5 років тому +1

      K20a2 says bye

  • @codysmith5905
    @codysmith5905 11 місяців тому

    I would definitely not miss out on the k series .I will have both engine in my possession ❤🎉🎉

  • @georgeboyd4619
    @georgeboyd4619 5 років тому +7

    I know the k is awesome.. But I'll take an f20! 😆

    • @jNA5t33
      @jNA5t33 5 років тому

      s2k all day!

  • @Lxzandr
    @Lxzandr 5 років тому

    Awesome video man. So much to learn and knowledge to gain about cars, engines etc. Keep up the good work. Cheers from New Zealand.

  • @fastingmedia1205
    @fastingmedia1205 5 років тому +3

    F20 from s2k is the real strong 4 banger

  • @akinjohnson4615
    @akinjohnson4615 5 років тому

    Need a k20 vs f20 vs k24 vid next. Loved the video.

    • @Dustrunnersauto
      @Dustrunnersauto  5 років тому

      Thanks! More videos to come in the future 👏🏻

  • @ericarntson2035
    @ericarntson2035 5 років тому +3

    Looking to swap a K24 into my Miata, making it lighter than an S2000 and torquier (is that a word?) too.

  • @MickyMouseLimited
    @MickyMouseLimited 5 років тому +2

    Nice video. K20 will be my choice because it is a complete engine and fully supported by Honda and after market. K24 will make more power but it will require greater understanding, more money and bigger chance of a failure due to human error during assembly since it will be a (k20 head K24 bottom end). Also in order to make more power it will need to reach RPM close to K20 this will cause higher pistons speed and potential of an earlier failure with heavy foot (abusive) driving.

    • @chesterm1306
      @chesterm1306 5 років тому +1

      a K24 doesnt need to rev up to 9k to make the same power as a K20 lol...

  • @aacc2216
    @aacc2216 5 років тому +3

    You're so eloquently articulate. 👍

  • @uperdd
    @uperdd 4 роки тому

    K20 in my opinion... I’ve had a civic si 2008, 2015 and now a 2017 and the most fun was my k20 08 all day long!! I’m even looking for one as a project car at the moment...

  • @siyandazikhali5677
    @siyandazikhali5677 5 років тому +4

    Honda fan

  • @christianobrien4465
    @christianobrien4465 5 років тому +1

    I subscribed..because it's an excellent video. I do not own a honda but have always wondered about this. I'm a b14 nissan and L30 altima owner. But love the video.

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi 5 років тому +4

    2 Jay zee 4 lyfe bro!!!

  • @peterzivcic
    @peterzivcic 5 років тому +2

    I personally drive my European Accord 2006 with stock K24A3, which is fenomenal, 190hp from stock engine is very good and enough for 1500kgs of car. After 2 years of owning it now, I will have a very big problem to switch to another naturally aspirated engine without VTEC - sorry mazda your 2.5 is not enough for my VTEC soul 😂

    • @zomgz932
      @zomgz932 5 років тому

      Hopefully the sky-x engines can muscle up some excitement. But i agree my rsx-s will be hard to part with expessially when i do a k24 franken build