This story seems to be a metaphor for the lost innocence of soldiers. Given the time it was written, it seems a reflection on WW2. A story about a young kid who thinks they know what they want, indoctrinated by rigid cruelty, experiencing death and blood, ending up miserable and completely exiled from their society. I'm not the only one who sees this, right?
that is for sure true, the author Takashi Yanase was drafted into the army under the 6th Field Heavy Artillery Reserve Company stationed in China, also His younger brother was killed in action during the Pacific Campaign.
Chirin is basically a soldier who goes off to avenge his country only to be turned into something hard & violent, unable to integrate back with the general population.
28:14 sheep really don't like to adopt other sheep's babies sadly. Modern sheep farmers have to make makeshift birthing corrals to separate all pregnant sheep when giving birth, and if a lamb slips out of a corral into an adjacent one, the other mother will attack it as an intruder trying to steal her baby's milk. Not sure if it's only certain kinds of sheep, but that is an issue with them, and so if a baby loses its mother it's very hard to find a foster mother who won't ignore or attack it.
Pretty sure that's only certain types of sheep or certain situations. As I've seen farmers relocate lambs to different nursing mothers and it worked fine. It mostly works with very young ones though. They cover the lamb in the same birth scent and give it to the sheep.
There's a sheep farm channel on youtube and sheep are stealing each other's babies all the time. And there was a mother who started headbutting one of its own babies and the farmer picked it up and put it in another pen right next to it and it got adopted no problem. She raises Rideau Arcott.
I will say, not an anime purest or anything, but the subbed version is better. The translation is a lot more accurate, a lot of people that only know the English dub get confused as to why Chirin immediately changes his tune from wanting to avenge his mom to wanting to train with the wolf. The subtitled version makes it a lot more clear that Chirin still wants to kill the wolf, hes just training under him in the hopes of surpassing him. Different iterations of "student eventually beats master and kills him" is a Japanese story telling troupe. Including in revenge plot lines like this, in these the reason the master takes the student hell bent on killing them is either out of callousness and boredom, guilt and atonement, or to corrupt and groom the student to be their replacement in death (this is the one Chirins Bell most resembles). For whatever reason they changed the translation of the subtitled version and left out a decent chunk of the context behind both Chirin's and the Wolf's decisions and reactions. On top of that, the wolf actually has a name, its Woe. Also don't forget to watch It Was A Dark And Stormy Night.
@@blueflare3848 Saber has mentioned it's on his list, I haven't seen it in awhile either but I remember it being very good. It's actually something where most people say the Dub is kind of better because of the slight recontextualizing they do. In original Japanese the wolf is male and the goat is female, with MUCH stronger romantic Romeo and Juliet vibes. However the English dub made the goat male and shifted the relationship to a strong friendship which a lot of people agree is actually better done.
@@kaylawoodbury2308 Is that uh... Arashi no Yoru ni (One Stormy Night, it's translated as on Wikipedia)? There's a couple of versions of it. As far as the Wikipedia article is concerned, the goat was never given a gender in the original books, and a 2005 film (by Group TAC, the same studio that I believe also made all the Happy Science movies) cast the goat as male, but in the 2012 series (made by Sparky Animation), the goat was female. I have not seen either adaptation, or read the books. Seen a lot of fan work about it though.
@@kaylawoodbury2308 That's not true. The goat is male in the Japanese version too. Strong gay vibes in the movie for sure. Platonic friends usually don't abandon their families to be together lol
55:45 Used to Be a Sweet Kid: Used to chilling effect in this book and film. In the English version, the sheep reject Chirin because they apparently do not remember him and they are convinced that no fearsome beast like him could have come from their farm. In the Japanese version, the sheep reject Chirin because they recognized the bell he still wore around his neck and they could not reconcile the fact that the lamb they used to play with had grown up to become such a fearsome beast, which makes no difference either way, as it still conveys the same message.
Oh Saber, I’m a zookeeper, and I’ve had to go against a reindeer in rut. They’re way stronger than you might expect, and they’ll toss you and stomp on you.
Male deer are just awful man, saw a video of a guy who had to chase off a young buck and protect a doe because he was literally trying to mate her to death. She had collapsed from exhaustion and had a few gouges from the buck prodding her to stand back up. Ducks too, they're well known for gang r---ing and maiming females. Nature is brutal
@@ClownHoundII It's not, it's just the downside of natural selection for some species. The biggest, most aggressive males get to mate which makes bigger and even more aggressive males. The aggression is reward and based down, in the case of the deer the guy filming suspected from the size of the buck that it was his first rut. Ie. It was a hormonal teenager that didn't have the tiniest amount of self control which just made the aggressive behavior worse. As for ducks, they're just the spawn of Satan. If you ever get asked "Would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses or one horse sized duck" , pick the horses.
The story of Chirin is one that shows what happens when you let hate and revenge drive and develop you. Chirin's adult design was meant to reflect that. No ungulate of this modern day grows horns like Chirin's. Antlers and horns of ungulates generally grow with a back wards curl or a curvature that aims to grab and wrestle. Yes, horns and antlers can gore, but their main purpose is to rack and wrestle. Chirin's horns were designed for only one thing. To kill. And he utilized them well. He achieved his goal, and in the end lost his purpose, and was left all alone with nothing and no one to turn to. The price of living a life focused on revenge.
What's also amusing about this story is the storybook it was based on was literally about teaching children that conformity is good, don't be like Chirin. I love the animtion and I've been watching it since I was young when my mom found it in a library in late 80s/early 90s.
That is such a wild thing to teach kids. Like I do understand kids shouldn't be doing things too crazy ti stand out but at the same time what's considered normal isn't always right.
@@ClownHoundII Japanese culture is very much about/into conformity. Keep your head down, follow the rules, etc. Not sure if you know about/seen/read anything by Junji Itou, but many of his works contain subtle digs/critiques of his own culture, and while wildly popular outside Japan (I mean, as a horror fan, I love this guy's stuff too) he's actually not all that popular in his home country
The original book by Felix Salten was SUPER dark. I wonder if they would include anymore, or go the opposite direction and remove his mother's death. In the book, there's a tame deer who says he'll greet Man as a friend. Bambi and Faline flee the meadow and hear him scream and scream.
Don't even get me started on Ghibli. Same with 'Howl's Moving Castle', 'Nausiacaa: Of Valley of the Wind' and 'Castle in the Sky.' What can I say? I like flying fortresses.
The Cat Returns at least has plenty of characters, a trip into another world, and some humor. I found Whisper of the Heart boring. I guess if you like romance and don't need any action, excitement or unexpected twists in a story you might enjoy it.
@@roachmorphine8018 The Whisper of the Heart is a more literal venture through the same story as The Cat Returns, finding your spark and purpose. It makes me appreciate the cat returns more because the main character in WotH is writing The Cat Returns. All the names are reused from her life and it helps give author context to the story. Fictional author context but context nevertheless. lol It is a tandem film though, to help enrich TCR. if you focused on action over characterization, then you won't enjoy it.
One thing I want to point out with the live action Cruella is that they made Pongo and Perdita siblings. Which doesn’t bode well with me given what will happen when they meet “for the first time”.
@@blueflare3848 they weren’t thinking, that’s the problem. I bet it was all just a callback to the original that unintentionally made a new plot hole. Anyway, that was one small detail that I noticed.
If Disney does decide to do a live action Bambi movie, they gotta do it in the style of the live action Jungle Book. The animals in that movie have great facial expressions, and it seemed like Disney actually tried.
Fun fact the creator of Chirin is the same person who made Anpanman. There is a compilation of his animated works on UA-cam that you can watcg for free. One of my favorite Joe to Bara no Hana, most of his works will make you cry and will stuck to you.
The voice actor for young Chirin in this English dub, was also the voice actor for Unico in the English dub of “Unico in the Island of Magic”…defo a must watch!
I dug it. Even though the songs were cheesy, they worked. Plus the animation was great. It's nice morality tale that shows that life isn't always fair, but not in an overly depressing way, and explores consequences of choosing a darker path... Good, good, Chirin was the apprentice, but he became the master.
While Tezuka was a fan of Bambi, he has stated his main inspiration for his animation was early Chinese animation and early manga artists like Suihō Tagawa. His later work in particular also showed a lot of influence from Soviet animation.
What I find interesting is that this was made by Sanrio, but I highly doubt most of the characters would be made into marketable plushies anytime soon.
@@MegaOrwell1984 Yes, remember that the movie was made by Sanrio. static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/chirindoll.jpg i.imgur.com/nVsZ269.jpeg This even extends to the film's official cell sheets. i.imgur.com/Lc0Cjsv.png
Chirin is pretty aspirational. Even in his grief he was able to work hard for what he wanted and achieved his goal of killing the wolf when the cards were stacked against him! Ya I get it, everyone feared him at the end, but they were sheep and would’ve been sheepish over anything anyways. Chirin was such a boss that he literally became a new sheep species that could kill a wolf! Chirin = life goals.
He ends up alone and forever broken. His life is hell and mostly wasted. His story is more a warning against a life definened by violence and revenge, I think.
@@youcanthandlethetruth8873absolutely that is the conclusion. one mustn’t live solely for revenge and nothing else, because in the end when it’s done, what do you have left? are you going to find the next thing to hate to destroy too?
Sheep wanting to become wolves -even if it’s by means of the one that caused such defining suffering- tells us that, to a soul in despair, strength/power becomes the only thing that matters, the only truth in a cruel world, and in the pursue of it one looses their very being. Very anime.
I would've recommended subs for this. It's an old dub, so there's quite a bit added noise and talking that wasn't in the original. Like some scenes/moments are meant to be silent.
Ohhhh boy! This is one of my favorite anime of all time, precisely because it's so bloody dark and out there, despite starting off like the blandest kiddie fodder! This was released on VHS originally sometime in the late 80s, and my friend who first sent me a tape copy back then imagined a parent renting this to put on and babysit the kids while they went shopping, and coming home and asking, "So what did you learn from the cute cartoon?" Then having their mind blown when their innocent darling says, "Mommy I learned that life is HELL and you have to grow sharp fangs and horns to be able to survive!" 🙂
The sound effects and voice acting give me a lot of Unico Vibes. I'm pretty sure the voice actor of the little lamb is the same English VA for Unico in those movies too. Tbh, Unico should get its own let's watch series, it's bonkers.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 personally, I'm waiting for the sequel; They should make Tigger to be made into an Ash Williams knockoff, who hunts Heffalumps and Woozels. Roo is his sidekick, avenging the death of Kanga.
The person in chat that kept saying the sheep was voiced by Ash from Pokemon was really annoying. The film came out in 1983 in the US and little Chirin was voiced by Barbara Goodson, who sounds nothing like Veronica Taylor or Sarah Natochenny.
18:15 Wolfes often attack sheep without killing them, just leaving them unable to move. That way they create a living food storage. But killing a sheep and leaving it is probably not very common.
Well it is actually Wolves when they enter a barn with sheep will indeed Slaughter every sheep they see, it's often called sport killing oe killing for fun, but there is a reason for that. Once it kills sheep, they think others will migrate somewhere far, so they kill every sheep to store their food supply, same goes for foxes, jackals and coyotes. But irl wolves would run away from large livestock guardian dogs such as kangal, Caucasian shepherd, sarplaninac, tornjak, great pyrenese and many other, wolf doesn't want to engage in any fight, and even if dog wants to, they don't stand a chance
Barbara Goodson (AKA Baby Chirin) has been in a lot of dubs, but Pokemon is not one of them. She has, however, been in Dragonball Z, Naruto, and Akira.
The voice of adult Chirin sounded so familiar to me. Turns out it's Gregg Berger. (Grimlock & Jetfire from Transformers, Cornfed from Duckman, among others)
Telling you all. Saberspark is going to have that deer right where he wants them. About to win then BAM! The goose shows up and ruins his day. Just double teaming the poor man.
I know the plot needed him to be angsty n shite......but to be 100% practical... .Chirrin could have just chilled at the farm for a bit. Its the Farmer that would have the final say. And all he would see is a big strong Ram that is completely fine with being near humans. And also in need of a shear........because sheep and Rams cant get rid of their wool themselves and it can be VERY DANGEROUS for them to have it on for over two years. Add in the fact that he would eventually find that the bell wold tip him off that he escaped A pen.......or better yet.....it wpuld be marked with his own mark and boom. New Ram to have around the farm. Bonus......he does the job of all his dogs by being a badass Ram that would ward off other Wolves, coyotes, foxes and other predators. I mean......hell.....donkeys they say are better than dogs anyway for protecting herds because they can graze with the herd, they are physically stronger than wolves, and have a massive hate boner for canines. Chirrin would be a happy surprise and a blessing for the farmer that keeps having to deal with Wolf attacks.
Kinda interesting to me is the way this sounds with the music and sounds in it. It reminds me of Rankin Bass movies like The Hobbit and The Last Unicorn.
i swear the voice for this baby sheep is the same for UNICO. very similar animation too. and it's seriously an anime. it's not super dark or a furry fest, Saber. but i think you'd like it. it's cute and wholesome.
Kinda feel bad for the wolf tbh. Just out here trying to eat. Decide to adopt one of your prey's offspring. Then he betrays and kills you, for a bunch of ungrateful sheep who never lifted a hoof to help him after his mom died.
7:41 - On the topic of that embarrassing, cringe-worthy Cruella live-make: even "justifying" her hatred of Dalmatians, she specifically targets puppies, so it's like if someone lost a family member to the Germans in WWII, and in revenge, they don't go after the people that did it, but German babies. Anyway, let's not forget, it is now canon that Cruella was the match-maker for Roger and Anita, not Pongo (which, admittedly, was silly, but it was for a way more fun fantasy-ish story). Also, I guess Cruella ages 50 years in one, apparently.
"One night, during a terrible blizzard" is in Japanese (at-least in the book, film might have rephrased it) exactly the same phrase as the title of One Stormy Night.
Imagine thinking you could win against a deer, a buck especially lmao. Any animal for the most part. Even a CAT could fuck up a person. A CHICKEN would gore tf out of you.
Sephiroth (Wolf) vs cloud (Chirin) The wolf was his enemy since he killed his mother but he was also his mentor. The wolf knew that only Chirin was able to him him... ;)
I know there no way in hell. But if they do a live action Bambi movie. It would be great to make it more accurate to the felix falten novel it's base on.
This story seems to be a metaphor for the lost innocence of soldiers. Given the time it was written, it seems a reflection on WW2. A story about a young kid who thinks they know what they want, indoctrinated by rigid cruelty, experiencing death and blood, ending up miserable and completely exiled from their society.
I'm not the only one who sees this, right?
Damn. That’s an amazing interpretation actually. That makes a lot of sense.
There's this guy that thinks this is a tribute to some Star Wars character.
@@evancredeur7498Me and I am not wrong. I just think that Chirin and Anakin are very similar. Anyone else think so?
@@puterboy2
I'm not saying you are. I just have different opinions on it.
that is for sure true, the author Takashi Yanase was drafted into the army under the 6th Field Heavy Artillery Reserve Company stationed in China, also His younger brother was killed in action during the Pacific Campaign.
Poor Chirin he became the monster he wanted to destroy.
“You became the same thing swore to destroy” -Obi Wan Kendoi
True and your the same as him
An unfortunate ending but a lesson to be learned nonetheless
He became sand
I agree
Mufasa: Circle of life.
Scar Wolf: *KILL OR BE KILLED.*
Thats what predators do 😂
Undertale quote
Chirin is basically a soldier who goes off to avenge his country only to be turned into something hard & violent, unable to integrate back with the general population.
28:14 sheep really don't like to adopt other sheep's babies sadly. Modern sheep farmers have to make makeshift birthing corrals to separate all pregnant sheep when giving birth, and if a lamb slips out of a corral into an adjacent one, the other mother will attack it as an intruder trying to steal her baby's milk. Not sure if it's only certain kinds of sheep, but that is an issue with them, and so if a baby loses its mother it's very hard to find a foster mother who won't ignore or attack it.
Pretty sure that's only certain types of sheep or certain situations. As I've seen farmers relocate lambs to different nursing mothers and it worked fine. It mostly works with very young ones though. They cover the lamb in the same birth scent and give it to the sheep.
There's a sheep farm channel on youtube and sheep are stealing each other's babies all the time. And there was a mother who started headbutting one of its own babies and the farmer picked it up and put it in another pen right next to it and it got adopted no problem. She raises Rideau Arcott.
I will say, not an anime purest or anything, but the subbed version is better. The translation is a lot more accurate, a lot of people that only know the English dub get confused as to why Chirin immediately changes his tune from wanting to avenge his mom to wanting to train with the wolf. The subtitled version makes it a lot more clear that Chirin still wants to kill the wolf, hes just training under him in the hopes of surpassing him. Different iterations of "student eventually beats master and kills him" is a Japanese story telling troupe. Including in revenge plot lines like this, in these the reason the master takes the student hell bent on killing them is either out of callousness and boredom, guilt and atonement, or to corrupt and groom the student to be their replacement in death (this is the one Chirins Bell most resembles).
For whatever reason they changed the translation of the subtitled version and left out a decent chunk of the context behind both Chirin's and the Wolf's decisions and reactions. On top of that, the wolf actually has a name, its Woe.
Also don't forget to watch It Was A Dark And Stormy Night.
Damn, I haven't watched It Was a Dark and Stormy Night in forever. I remember watching the whole thing on UA-cam.
@@blueflare3848 Saber has mentioned it's on his list, I haven't seen it in awhile either but I remember it being very good. It's actually something where most people say the Dub is kind of better because of the slight recontextualizing they do. In original Japanese the wolf is male and the goat is female, with MUCH stronger romantic Romeo and Juliet vibes. However the English dub made the goat male and shifted the relationship to a strong friendship which a lot of people agree is actually better done.
@@kaylawoodbury2308 Is that uh... Arashi no Yoru ni (One Stormy Night, it's translated as on Wikipedia)? There's a couple of versions of it. As far as the Wikipedia article is concerned, the goat was never given a gender in the original books, and a 2005 film (by Group TAC, the same studio that I believe also made all the Happy Science movies) cast the goat as male, but in the 2012 series (made by Sparky Animation), the goat was female.
I have not seen either adaptation, or read the books. Seen a lot of fan work about it though.
spending more then two seconds more to figure out what the Ram wants is not enough to say one Dub is better really XD
@@kaylawoodbury2308 That's not true. The goat is male in the Japanese version too. Strong gay vibes in the movie for sure. Platonic friends usually don't abandon their families to be together lol
55:45 Used to Be a Sweet Kid: Used to chilling effect in this book and film. In the English version, the sheep reject Chirin because they apparently do not remember him and they are convinced that no fearsome beast like him could have come from their farm. In the Japanese version, the sheep reject Chirin because they recognized the bell he still wore around his neck and they could not reconcile the fact that the lamb they used to play with had grown up to become such a fearsome beast, which makes no difference either way, as it still conveys the same message.
Oh Saber, I’m a zookeeper, and I’ve had to go against a reindeer in rut. They’re way stronger than you might expect, and they’ll toss you and stomp on you.
Never forget that at the cervine family BBQ the moose shows up, nature's ultimate litnes test for common sense.
Male deer are just awful man, saw a video of a guy who had to chase off a young buck and protect a doe because he was literally trying to mate her to death. She had collapsed from exhaustion and had a few gouges from the buck prodding her to stand back up. Ducks too, they're well known for gang r---ing and maiming females. Nature is brutal
@@kaylawoodbury2308I always wondered why that happens? What about mating to death or causing pain to either partner would be beneficial?
@@ClownHoundII It's not, it's just the downside of natural selection for some species. The biggest, most aggressive males get to mate which makes bigger and even more aggressive males. The aggression is reward and based down, in the case of the deer the guy filming suspected from the size of the buck that it was his first rut. Ie. It was a hormonal teenager that didn't have the tiniest amount of self control which just made the aggressive behavior worse. As for ducks, they're just the spawn of Satan. If you ever get asked "Would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses or one horse sized duck" , pick the horses.
The story of Chirin is one that shows what happens when you let hate and revenge drive and develop you. Chirin's adult design was meant to reflect that. No ungulate of this modern day grows horns like Chirin's. Antlers and horns of ungulates generally grow with a back wards curl or a curvature that aims to grab and wrestle. Yes, horns and antlers can gore, but their main purpose is to rack and wrestle. Chirin's horns were designed for only one thing. To kill. And he utilized them well. He achieved his goal, and in the end lost his purpose, and was left all alone with nothing and no one to turn to. The price of living a life focused on revenge.
He had actually given up on revenge by the time he grew up. It wasn't until the wolf was about to kill the sheep when he had it all come rushing back.
What's also amusing about this story is the storybook it was based on was literally about teaching children that conformity is good, don't be like Chirin.
I love the animtion and I've been watching it since I was young when my mom found it in a library in late 80s/early 90s.
That is such a wild thing to teach kids. Like I do understand kids shouldn't be doing things too crazy ti stand out but at the same time what's considered normal isn't always right.
@@ClownHoundII Japanese culture is very much about/into conformity. Keep your head down, follow the rules, etc. Not sure if you know about/seen/read anything by Junji Itou, but many of his works contain subtle digs/critiques of his own culture, and while wildly popular outside Japan (I mean, as a horror fan, I love this guy's stuff too) he's actually not all that popular in his home country
There are plenty of other versions of the story just so you know.
Do we need a live action Bambi? God no.
Will Disney do it anyway to keep the IP and possibly spite what's left of the fandom? Obviously.
Although, Saber got my attention when he said from the hunter's perspective. That could be hilarious.
We got Lion king, Little Mermaid and Beauty and the beast live action so there might be a chance for Bambi at this point
Would Bambi have enough market interest for them to greenlight a remake?
It’s happening. Just announced
The original book by Felix Salten was SUPER dark. I wonder if they would include anymore, or go the opposite direction and remove his mother's death.
In the book, there's a tame deer who says he'll greet Man as a friend. Bambi and Faline flee the meadow and hear him scream and scream.
Later on the news: "UA-camr killed by a deer ... and a canadian goose was there too"
When you watch Whisper of the Heart you always have to follow it up with watching The Cat Returns.
Then fallow that with A Night on the Galactic Railroad.
Don't even get me started on Ghibli. Same with 'Howl's Moving Castle', 'Nausiacaa: Of Valley of the Wind' and 'Castle in the Sky.' What can I say? I like flying fortresses.
The Cat Returns at least has plenty of characters, a trip into another world, and some humor. I found Whisper of the Heart boring. I guess if you like romance and don't need any action, excitement or unexpected twists in a story you might enjoy it.
@@roachmorphine8018 The Whisper of the Heart is a more literal venture through the same story as The Cat Returns, finding your spark and purpose. It makes me appreciate the cat returns more because the main character in WotH is writing The Cat Returns. All the names are reused from her life and it helps give author context to the story. Fictional author context but context nevertheless. lol It is a tandem film though, to help enrich TCR. if you focused on action over characterization, then you won't enjoy it.
A Whisker Away is a new one too.
The English voice for young Chirin was Barbara Goodson, the voice of Rita Repulsa from Power Rangers.
“Alpha, Chirin has returned! Recruit a group of lambs with attitude!”
@@henryfanforever1414Go Go, Baa Baa Rangers!
Rishi was in full coyote mode wanting to eat Chirin the whole movie
I'm SO happy you guys watched this. Hopefully this brings more attention to older Sanrio films because everyong just thinks it's all Hello Kitty
Saber needs to talk about Unico.
Sea Prince and the Fire Child, anyone?
One thing I want to point out with the live action Cruella is that they made Pongo and Perdita siblings. Which doesn’t bode well with me given what will happen when they meet “for the first time”.
I don't know what they were thinking with that.
@@blueflare3848 they weren’t thinking, that’s the problem. I bet it was all just a callback to the original that unintentionally made a new plot hole. Anyway, that was one small detail that I noticed.
If Disney does decide to do a live action Bambi movie, they gotta do it in the style of the live action Jungle Book. The animals in that movie have great facial expressions, and it seemed like Disney actually tried.
Fun fact the creator of Chirin is the same person who made Anpanman. There is a compilation of his animated works on UA-cam that you can watcg for free. One of my favorite Joe to Bara no Hana, most of his works will make you cry and will stuck to you.
The voice actor for young Chirin in this English dub, was also the voice actor for Unico in the English dub of “Unico in the Island of Magic”…defo a must watch!
Barbara Goodson will always be Unico to me. :)
I dug it. Even though the songs were cheesy, they worked. Plus the animation was great. It's nice morality tale that shows that life isn't always fair, but not in an overly depressing way, and explores consequences of choosing a darker path... Good, good, Chirin was the apprentice, but he became the master.
While Tezuka was a fan of Bambi, he has stated his main inspiration for his animation was early Chinese animation and early manga artists like Suihō Tagawa. His later work in particular also showed a lot of influence from Soviet animation.
What I find interesting is that this was made by Sanrio, but I highly doubt most of the characters would be made into marketable plushies anytime soon.
Sanrio actually made merchandise for the film between 1976 and 1978.
@@nyanpirethecat2257 oh shit for real?
@@MegaOrwell1984 Yes, remember that the movie was made by Sanrio.
static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/chirindoll.jpg
i.imgur.com/nVsZ269.jpeg
This even extends to the film's official cell sheets.
i.imgur.com/Lc0Cjsv.png
Those other sheep seeing the dead mom like “damn, well, thank god it wasn’t me, let’s head back to bed kiddos.”
Chirin is pretty aspirational. Even in his grief he was able to work hard for what he wanted and achieved his goal of killing the wolf when the cards were stacked against him! Ya I get it, everyone feared him at the end, but they were sheep and would’ve been sheepish over anything anyways. Chirin was such a boss that he literally became a new sheep species that could kill a wolf! Chirin = life goals.
Technically he just grew into a Ram.
There's a reason Dodge and St. Louis uses them as masculine icons.
He ends up alone and forever broken. His life is hell and mostly wasted. His story is more a warning against a life definened by violence and revenge, I think.
@@youcanthandlethetruth8873absolutely that is the conclusion. one mustn’t live solely for revenge and nothing else, because in the end when it’s done, what do you have left? are you going to find the next thing to hate to destroy too?
Sheep wanting to become wolves -even if it’s by means of the one that caused such defining suffering- tells us that, to a soul in despair, strength/power becomes the only thing that matters, the only truth in a cruel world, and in the pursue of it one looses their very being.
Very anime.
Very faustian bargain like if you ask me. 😎
The story of a kid who was adopted by his mom's murderer
Imagine if Anakin got adopted by the Tuskin Raiders and his mom got killed when he was little?
fanfic fanfic fanfic @@puterboy2
15:32 the ladybug was the real victim this whole time
I would've recommended subs for this. It's an old dub, so there's quite a bit added noise and talking that wasn't in the original. Like some scenes/moments are meant to be silent.
I get that but credit where credit is due, the dub voices are not bad at all, and they do a pretty nice job for its time
Ohhhh boy! This is one of my favorite anime of all time, precisely because it's so bloody dark and out there, despite starting off like the blandest kiddie fodder! This was released on VHS originally sometime in the late 80s, and my friend who first sent me a tape copy back then imagined a parent renting this to put on and babysit the kids while they went shopping, and coming home and asking, "So what did you learn from the cute cartoon?" Then having their mind blown when their innocent darling says, "Mommy I learned that life is HELL and you have to grow sharp fangs and horns to be able to survive!" 🙂
"Lambert the sheepish lion" 1952 is more traumatic
The sound effects and voice acting give me a lot of Unico Vibes. I'm pretty sure the voice actor of the little lamb is the same English VA for Unico in those movies too. Tbh, Unico should get its own let's watch series, it's bonkers.
Your right, Barbara Goodson actually voiced Unico and Chriin in the English Dubs. Both made by Sanrio Animation.
IIRC Tezuka (and the "cutesy" style) was directly inspired by Bambi.
Never knew this was by Sanrio, that's interesting
Don't become the thing you hate. Also Watership Down was amazing. I miss when people realised children can handle heavy topics to some degree.
Live Action Bambi will have Mother live, and go psycho on the hunters
You just gave a pitch for a Cocaine Bear spinoff sequel: Meth Deer
Actually that will be for the plot for “Bambi the reckoning.” The horror movie that be made the people that gave us Winnie the Pooh blood and honey.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 personally, I'm waiting for the sequel; They should make Tigger to be made into an Ash Williams knockoff, who hunts Heffalumps and Woozels. Roo is his sidekick, avenging the death of Kanga.
It'd be more like Zombi from Mad.
Bambo: First Blood.
The person in chat that kept saying the sheep was voiced by Ash from Pokemon was really annoying. The film came out in 1983 in the US and little Chirin was voiced by Barbara Goodson, who sounds nothing like Veronica Taylor or Sarah Natochenny.
The voice of Chirin is Barbara Goodson. She played Laharl from Disgaea and Rita Repulsa from Power Rangers, among many others.
And Unico the Unicorn.
If you want something devastatingly saddest anime movie, watch Barefoot Gen.
It's an anti-war flick but lots of devastation because of WW2.
18:15 Wolfes often attack sheep without killing them, just leaving them unable to move. That way they create a living food storage. But killing a sheep and leaving it is probably not very common.
Censorship is a bitch.
Well it is actually
Wolves when they enter a barn with sheep will indeed Slaughter every sheep they see, it's often called sport killing oe killing for fun, but there is a reason for that. Once it kills sheep, they think others will migrate somewhere far, so they kill every sheep to store their food supply, same goes for foxes, jackals and coyotes. But irl wolves would run away from large livestock guardian dogs such as kangal, Caucasian shepherd, sarplaninac, tornjak, great pyrenese and many other, wolf doesn't want to engage in any fight, and even if dog wants to, they don't stand a chance
Barbara Goodson (AKA Baby Chirin) has been in a lot of dubs, but Pokemon is not one of them. She has, however, been in Dragonball Z, Naruto, and Akira.
i really like this movie, glad you guys reacted to it! :D
honestly watching this gave me strong gohan and piccolo vibes and the little lamb even sounded like young gohan
The voice of adult Chirin sounded so familiar to me. Turns out it's Gregg Berger. (Grimlock & Jetfire from Transformers, Cornfed from Duckman, among others)
LOVE YOU GUYS
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Bruh
Telling you all. Saberspark is going to have that deer right where he wants them. About to win then BAM! The goose shows up and ruins his day. Just double teaming the poor man.
Little known fact
Ringing Bell takes place in the same universe as Animal Farm
I know the plot needed him to be angsty n shite......but to be 100% practical...
.Chirrin could have just chilled at the farm for a bit. Its the Farmer that would have the final say.
And all he would see is a big strong Ram that is completely fine with being near humans.
And also in need of a shear........because sheep and Rams cant get rid of their wool themselves and it can be VERY DANGEROUS for them to have it on for over two years.
Add in the fact that he would eventually find that the bell wold tip him off that he escaped A pen.......or better yet.....it wpuld be marked with his own mark and boom.
New Ram to have around the farm.
Bonus......he does the job of all his dogs by being a badass Ram that would ward off other Wolves, coyotes, foxes and other predators. I mean......hell.....donkeys they say are better than dogs anyway for protecting herds because they can graze with the herd, they are physically stronger than wolves, and have a massive hate boner for canines.
Chirrin would be a happy surprise and a blessing for the farmer that keeps having to deal with Wolf attacks.
I'd recommend The Fantastic Adventures of Unico. It's a fever dream
Perfect timing since there's a new Unico Manga in the works.
i have to thank you, without your 2 vids on this old animation i would never have found it, this animation is beautiful, thank you saber
excelent movie!
Saber had some ADHD this session god damn.
Kinda interesting to me is the way this sounds with the music and sounds in it. It reminds me of Rankin Bass movies like The Hobbit and The Last Unicorn.
Omg yes!!!
The view on wolves in this is so boomer.
When was this made again? 🤔
I love this movie
Her complaining about there being a hunter and kids in a live action Bambi, while the book has that. 😂
Chirin soon learned the price of vengeance. He became lost as a result & he became a monster
Ringing Bell walked so Vinland Saga can run
I have this on VHS. A friend showed it to me. I will always be indebted to her for that.
I remember watching this on someone's tv waaaay back on the 80's. I couldn't remember the name of it till now. Was not expecting this lol
i swear the voice for this baby sheep is the same for UNICO. very similar animation too. and it's seriously an anime. it's not super dark or a furry fest, Saber. but i think you'd like it. it's cute and wholesome.
It is the same voice actor! :D
That's because Baby Chirin's English voice actress is Barbara Goodson who also voiced Unico in both Unico Movies.
I watched this sooo long ago in high school. I LOVED THIS SAD MOVIE :)
0:05 fun fact, sanrio studios made hello kitty 😂
19:15 this scene was oh my god so dark…..
Imagine if her stomach was ripped open, then it would be WAYYY darker.
Oh I fucking LOVE Ringing Bell!
Pretty much Vinland Saga if Thorfinn successfully killed Askeladd. It be interesting to see how the story would proceed with this dark side ending.
Bambi: A Hunters Tale
I can't believe this was made by sanrio
Also, Adult Chirin gives me Behemoth vibes for some reason
So it's Vinland saga
The death scene kinda reminds me of some sad stories of my OCs
I’ve never heard someone laugh the way rishi does 😂
Saber.......just do what most other people do.....call them Hydra Agents.
Kinda feel bad for the wolf tbh. Just out here trying to eat. Decide to adopt one of your prey's offspring. Then he betrays and kills you, for a bunch of ungrateful sheep who never lifted a hoof to help him after his mom died.
I like how you talked about the voice actor/actress... It is RITA REPULISIVE!
Yes, please do a stream for anebelles wish. That was my childhood.
there's a lot of sound effects that I feel are unique to early anime, no idea how they work
7:41 - On the topic of that embarrassing, cringe-worthy Cruella live-make: even "justifying" her hatred of Dalmatians, she specifically targets puppies, so it's like if someone lost a family member to the Germans in WWII, and in revenge, they don't go after the people that did it, but German babies.
Anyway, let's not forget, it is now canon that Cruella was the match-maker for Roger and Anita, not Pongo (which, admittedly, was silly, but it was for a way more fun fantasy-ish story). Also, I guess Cruella ages 50 years in one, apparently.
And Pongo and Perdita are siblings in this version, which means all of their puppies are horrifically inbred.
Thanks for that one Disney
What a sad story 😢
Love this! Anyone else is getting Vinland Saga vibes?
"One night, during a terrible blizzard" is in Japanese (at-least in the book, film might have rephrased it) exactly the same phrase as the title of One Stormy Night.
10:44 uikioe which influenced early 20th century manga and animation is what inspired Tezuka.
Oooh please do Annabelle's Wish! I watched it a few times as a kid and forgot about it for sooo long and haven't heard anyone else bring it up.
Imagine thinking you could win against a deer, a buck especially lmao. Any animal for the most part. Even a CAT could fuck up a person. A CHICKEN would gore tf out of you.
I do have to say old animated movies always have done a good way of using color to feel the emotions.
This movie, i watched this as a kid and its really crazy.
Sephiroth (Wolf) vs cloud (Chirin)
The wolf was his enemy since he killed his mother but he was also his mentor. The wolf knew that only Chirin was able to him him... ;)
Man, when did I miss this movie night?? Movie night is the highlight of my week…or was. 😂 When we gonna do it again? ❤
What is this? I actually have no idea if I've ever seen this. It feels crazy nostalgic but I don't remember any of this. What weird limbo to be in.
18:59 the fact I almost fucking cried 😭🙏🏽
I've never actually seen the English dub. I love this movie though. Such a good movie.
Not Ash Ketchum, but it turns out the English voice of young Chirin is the voice of Naota in FLCL!
Yeah Barbara Goodson who also voiced Unico.
After the short you mentioned
I watch this on UA-cam and it cool
Is Saber a little hard to hear for anyone else or is it just my speaker?
And 30 seconds later it was addressed nevermind lol
I saw it and it was so sad
I thought Chirin sounded familiar. It's Barbra Goodson. AKA Rita Repulsa or Pazu in the original English dub of Castle in the Sky
I just wanted to scream RULES OF NATURE!!
I know there no way in hell. But if they do a live action Bambi movie. It would be great to make it more accurate to the felix falten novel it's base on.
This reminds me of Lambert from that one Disney short
What in the Vinland Saga is this!?😂