If I were Thumbelina’s mother my anxiety issues would be significantly worse than they are now. My blood pressure would skyrocket every time she left my line of sight
Seriously! Anytime we've had a new tiny kitten/puppy the first few weeks are spent in abject terror anytime I'm not 100% certain where they are. I can't imagine having a child that will never get taller than my thumb to worry about. Any time I stepped on ANYTHING. I would be about ready to die thinking I killed my tiny human.😂
According to Bluth, the screenwriter used all of their time writing the first script, and in the end, he decided to step in and only had a week to write the new script
Does it even matter though since they barely even strayed away from the original written story? Like there were some minor tweaks here and there especially with some designs but overall every single major plot point that's shown was how the book was written (and almost to the t might I add)
In Thumbelina's defense, how much interaction with other people could that girl have had her entire life? Also this is probably the first guy she met who wasn't the size of a small mountain in comparison. Of course she's going to be interested in him. Luckily he's a decent enough guy but what naïve young woman ISN'T going to lose her head in that sort of situation.
Also, she was already a fully grown woman when she was born from the flower, so we don't even know for how long she has been alive for. She very well could have been mere days old for all we know.
Ms. Frog: "Thumbelina you will be apart of our group and marry my son !" *Leaves Thumbelina on a lilly pad and takes off* *Cuts back to them later* "Looks like Thumblina gave you the slip lol" Did you really think she' just sit there for hours waiting for you to return ?
What’s strange to me about Thumbelina is that I kinda feel like she does have a character- and it’s that she’s extremely sheltered & naive. She wants to fit in somewhere and doesn’t really know how the world works, & all these different parties take advantage of that. I feel like the pieces are there for a pretty solid character arc, but the final result ended up being more unwittingly creepy than anything else.
Same even though their were confusing moments to not understand but this is still apart of my childhood but honestly the Barbie thumbelina movie was better than this
About her not having a character arc, I feel like she *almost* had one and that's even more frustrating. The entire time, she's learning about different types of love and marriage , all leading to that final scene where she rejects everyone's proposals, putting her foot down, and leaving. It would have made far more sense for her to look back on all that and tell the Prince "no, I'd like to take my time". But nah, instead it's as if she completely forgot the prior scene and any potential growth goes down the drain :/ Also wow, this movies' a lot more disjointed than I remember lol
Well the lesson she learn isn't really anything about waiting with marriage, it's about only about marring the guy she likes instead of who other people want her to marry. Also let's be honest, it's probably all another H. C. Andersen metaphor for his gay-angst. Like she is different from everyone else, then she finds somone who is like her and she want to be with, but she can't and then there are all these other people who are interested in her, but she isn't interested in, but everyone around her expects her to want to marry. And in the end she rejects society's demands and sticks with her love. And unlike The Little Mermaid Andersen gave his self-insert a happy ending this time.
The point of all the rejections was clearly to demonstrate that marrying for love is the right thing to do, not waiting an arbitrary amount of time. It's not like waiting had anything to do with her not marrying the others. She didn't love them and that was that.
@@Crygear Oh. You didn't know. Not knowing anything about H. C. Andersen is not a reason to project your ignorance about the man's life unto other people. Wait until you hear about Oscar Wilde's private life.
3:42 Apollo and Daphne ? JESUS yes that wonderful love story where a petty love god makes Apollo fall in love with a woman and when he tries to rape her she turns into a plant to avoid him. True Love 😂
18:54 "What if she was like, slightly taller than him" that would be hilarious; Thumby here wants to meet tiny people like her and ends up learning the actually-tiny people are small compared to her so she's still a freak. Side note we watched this movie 10,000,000 times as kids and probably would watch it again for pure nostalgia, I say "freak" out of love
I mean, apparently the winter was coming (super dangerous to fairies because of the cold) and because he's the ✨hero✨ he probably wouldn't want anyone else getting hurt.
To be fair if youve ever read the actual "Thumbelina" by Hans Christian Anderson, its pretty one for one. Kidnapped by a toad who wants her as the bride for her son, saved by friendly fish, escapes, drifts on a lilypad until found by a beetle who likes her until she is rejected by his friends,when winter comes she is found by a fieldmouse who tries to convince her to marry her neighbor the mole, injured swallow in the tunnel she saves, thumbelina escapes the mole with the swallow she saved before, meets a fairy prince and marries him....I mean other than the prince being at the end of the original story...
The most unintentionally funniest part of the film is: during the mid-song sequence with the swallow and the background singer birds he says "sing, my little chickadees!" The funniest part about that is there are NO chickadees in Europe...but we do have their sister bird the tit, meaning he should've said "sing, my little tits!" but yeah LOL
In defense of Jacquimo, at least he helped Thumbelina remind her that Cornelius still loves her for who she is. Yeah, that bird that is an optimistic idiot, had a tender moment with her in that one scene after Mr. Beetle called her "ugly" after that Broadway show incident.
On Romeo and Juliet: Yes, they did technically get married. It was a very subtle, old-timey thing where they held hands and said a couple words, and because they did it in a church in front of a priest and in the name of God they technically married themselves in that moment. Freaked out my English teacher with that fact because when I mentioned the part where they got married he was like, wait, no they didn't. Then I showed him the appendix notes for that passage and yeah. They did. English teacher didn't even know when it was right there in the appendix notes.
Yep, married, otherwise, their sex would have been (gasp!) A SIN!! Not that their being, like 12 and 14 wasn’t, nope, not in 15th century Fair Verona or wherever it was.
When I was very young I loved this movie and still do. It has a great message to not let someone push you into marrying someone you don't love and I like Thumbelina's character in general standing out from other heroines. A lot of people think the message was marry on your own terms for some reason when it's don't let someone push you into marrying someone you don't love. Maybe if people would actually pay attention to the movie or actually watching it instead of assuming what happens they would get it.
But doesn't "not letting yourself pushed to marry someone you don't love" and "marrying someone on your own terms" kinda go hand in hand? Like saying "I don't wanna marry this person" is another way to say that you wanna marry on your own terms rather than be forced into a marriage you don't want. Unless I'm misreading something here.
This movie felt like there were a lot of characters and therefore Thumbelina couldn't be fleshed out much (also Princey just showing up suddenly at the end to save her without any indication he finally got freed was kinda funny)- that said, she just keeps getting swept away by EVERYONE, and when she does get angry and put her foot down to tell the sparrow to stop, they still don't listen. Like half of the dialogue between her and others are people just disregarding everything she says and it's like she's talking to a brick wall lol it's not a bad movie, but you definitely have to just kinda shut your brain off for this one Also that weird... probably an adult frog... going after a teenager was the weirdest plotline of them all, this movie felt like a horror movie than an adventure romance lmao
Thumbelina's mother just lets her walk amongst the chickens like it's no big deal. Chickens are probably the worst thing besides a cat for a child that size to be around especially in a group. I've seen them fight over frogs and mice. The second one of those birds considers her food she is done.
"Are they in France?" Artists who took the time to do specific detail work on Notre Dame so it would be immediately recognizable to international audiences that was on screen mere seconds before: am I a joke to you?
I kinda knew a guy who worked on this movie, now my sister has an original drawing of the house in Thumbelina. Idk why I'm saying it, I just felt like sharing :D
This was my favourite movie as a kid. She's naive and sheltered. I was being SA by both men that were supposed to be my "dads" and this movie have me hope that one day I will find my prince, and I will overcome 😌 It actually helped give me standards LOL
The movie is enjoyable😁 Lots of nostalgia. I would absolutely show this to my kids.❤ Honestly I like the sparrow. He was the only one who really cared about her wellbeing. More so than the prince himself. He looks out for her and even aids her in finding the Vale. He really gives his all for her, risks his life,, and she kinda ditches him for a prince who can't keep it in his pants. The prince only like her for her looks. The sparrow saw so much more in her. He should have been the love interest, like a cursed fairy.
In response to Rishi's question about Romeo and Juliet, they were married at the end of the second act, right before the big fight between Romeo and Tybalt. Romeo was then kicked out of Verona because Tybalt ended up killed and before he left, Romeo and Juliet spent the night together. His leaving led to Juliet being betrothed to Paris, faking her death and then later Romeo and Juliet killing themselves in the Capulet crypt at the end of the play
Imagine being eight years old and listening to this movie everyday because your six year old sister is obsessed with it. The music isn't bad in this movie, but after about a year of constant playing even "Marry the Mole" gets old.
Honestly, thank you for the thumbnail. When I watched the movie as a 3rd grader, that frog was the BANE OF MY EXISTENCE!!!!!!!!! I hated everything about her. The fact you used a silly frame of that described how much I hated her. Thank you so much, it genuinely brought me a laugh 😂.
there's a lot of competent animators, actors, and musicians in the movie, but they're all let down by the lack of a real plot or point to link the whole movie together.
It was fine at the beginning of the stream but after a while I was like, my man, slow down. She kept having to tell him to stop making inappropriate comments
Had this on bhs as a kid and it came with a cheap bracelet I loved. My little sister swiped it one day and put it over the plug prongs of a nightlight and plugged it in. :( lost the bracelet and she learned a valuable lesson that day as well as getting launched across the room that day. My dad was so confused when the house had a brown out because of it he was in our basement cleaning something
1:14:36 I've found that painting my nails stops me from chewing on them (tastes too gross). also adding extra layers of paint makes the edge less sharp so that helps with my dermatillomania. I'd recommend it if you're into it, plus theres a gazillion pretty colors you can choose from :)
Very classic film. I have recently seen this on disney plus! It's funny how 20th century studios bought the rights to this movie even though it's actually a Warner bros picture! Plus the "always follow your heart" song kinda got stuck inside my head! I can't stop singing to it! 😅
56:48 SaberSpark: We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
Yay everything grondel and Mr beetle on screen I feel like I should be asking for an adult most the guy villains in this movie are some of the biggest incels I've seen 😢
Jacquimo is my fave character in this film, I will fight you (in minecraft)! lol The movie itself is harmless. It is remembered fondly for some of it's moments, but it really is just "middle of the road" as it were. Also, I still can't believe "Marry the Mole" was the first animated song to acquire a Razzie. It sincerely isn't that bad to deserve that award.
the teapot at 18:33 just unlocked a memory of a dream that I had... I was crawling in and around the teapot like Thumbelina did with the prince. Fun memory, was like 7 i think.
Man I may be on the minority here but Don Bluth’s rotoscopia has always weird me out, his human characters just move so weird, and have such weird/generic faces, that’s why I prefer the secret of nimh, not only for the dark tone but because they don’t use much rotoscopia there
Look I'm just going to say it, this movie is a guilty pleasure. There are some good things about it, like the song Let me be Your Wings(the amount UA-cam covers say it all), the animation(no, I don't care that it looks weird when you pause it on a certain shout even Beauty and the Beast had this going on. Plus its no were near as bad as that one Tom and Jerry movie), plus Jodie Benson basically kind of carrying this movie. Though if I'm being, honest, out of all the animated movies out there that could use the remake treatment, I don't think I would mind this getting one. What do you guys think?
isn't Alice in Wonderland a movie where a girl does nothing and things just happen to her? Isn't that movie better when it does that vs when its a war?
Honestly I feel like there were waaay too many pauses and tangents in this one. I like Saber’s tangents, but when there’s a new one every two minutes it’s way too much.
What I suspected from the beginning is that Thumbelina is a half fairy or a not fully fledged fairy which is why she's freakishly tiny and doesn't have wings, and I guess her new wings are proof. It might be a right of passage or something because her getting wings makes no sense if she is supposed to be just a bug sized human straight up.
Ah yes, another childhood film that I watched back then when I was a kid and I kind of forgot about until this video came out, so thanks for remembering me of this movie
I've been watching/listening to these in the background while I write. All night, can't sleep with the imps and goblins scratching at the inner walls of my mind. So I write. Meanwhile I've had these streams playing. I find myself snickering and squeaking out ugly giggles. I'm smiling. Thank you. I can't be okay, but. I can smile and that's really nice. It's okay to not be okay. Laughter is the best medicine anyway.
When Thumbelina sees the treasure, at the end of the film, and I heard you guys saying: "Money! A treasure! The true meaning of love! F**k you, fairy prince! I'm taking this money! I'm getting the f**k out of here!", I laughed so hard that I started my day in the best way possible! XD XD XD Thank you, Saber!
I love these movie night with these two she's so nice to watch it with them but I do wish there was a way to boost the sound for the movie because it's like you tried listening really hard to the sound of the movie and then you hear them just super loud laughing and it's like okay hello loud
I remember watching this when I was young, but my memory of the movie was so warped. I remembered that it looked more serious and the characters looked and acted less goofy. My memories of this movie vs the actual movie was so different that when I tried to watch it again a few months ago, I thought I was watching a different movie.
40:13 I find this so interesting, and I really admire artists that develop their own style. I'm a really self-conscious person, and I struggle with my art sometimes, but one thing that I'm happy about is that I eventually found my style when drawing cartoons. Everyone is unique in their own way and have their own style, which is really cool. 1:41:28 I loved this as well. I'm a huge fan of entomology, and I think insects are awesome! Especially wasps. Most people hate them, but they have a special place in my heart. And finally, looking back on this movie, it makes me quite uncomfortable to see Thumbelina get harassed by creepy men. That probably wasn't the intention of the movie, but it comes off that way. Especially when you say no to someone and they don't take no for an answer. I don't hate it, though. I used to watch it when I was little and enjoy it, but I was too young to fully understand. Interesting and hilarious commentary, as always!
Personally I love Thumbelina It may be a bit rocky, quality-wise but I still think there was still a lot of love and meaning in it. People interpret different themes in different movies, and the way I interpret Thumbelina is that it's a story about self-love and finding a good support system for yourself. Of course I could be wrong but an optimistic part of me wants to believe in that message ^^
1:32:50 Yes, absolutely! When I was a kid, I had a Megaman cross fusion 10in. figure with a longsword attachment. I can't tell you why, but I just looked to chew on... its nose. XD You'd think I'd have chewed on the sword, bring just the right size and shape for chewing, but I went straight for the teeny tiny nose. lol
I hope you're ready to throw hands Saber 😠 lol on a side note this is such a classic to me I always find comfort in it. To me it plays out like someone reading a storybook, nothing complex just a simple story of a girl and her prince.
Like most of the characters in this movie are creeps, but not really evil per se. The beetle was indeed a jerk for basically setting up Thumbelina for ridicule at his show and also smooching her arms and hands nonconsensually, the frog fell in love for barely a gesture, and Mr. Mole mainly was a snob but didn't seem absolutely like a total creep comparatively with the other two. Heck, the prince was creepier than Mr. Mole in the beginning. Weirdly enough Giacomo was probably the most chemistry we get from this movie, and he was entirely platonic. Which is great, but compared to the rest of these actual hookups he is way more suitable, which in turn is embarrassing. Heck, considering Thumbelina's only safe options for marrying someone are either another fairy or a bunch of small animals that are completely sentient and talk, it wouldn't be any weirder marrying a bird than a fairy considering before the ending she doesn't become a fairy yet at all, and for all anyone knows she is just a weird human. Either option would have been another species regardless.
I'd like to think the MAP community helped contribute to the transparency of who animated what in each project. When everyone is doing their own scenes following character color and patterns but will absolutely go off model and draw the characters in their own style, yet everyone can still easily follow along with what's going on even those who have no idea who these characters are. It's something very special. In the MAP community it's very normal for folks to post their roughs, storyboards, finished parts, and has been for the better part of a decade. Now more animators who even work on huge projects today feel a lot more comfortable sharing what they worked on. Even the MLP community, as much as I hate to give them any sort of clout, helped contribute to this when the artists were sharing the animatics of the scenes they worked on and giving people are glimpse of what it's like. You can so very clearly see who did what. From the early 2010s onward the trend of sharing what animations you worked on has just grown bigger and bigger to the point that we follow studio level content because we recognize animators and artists we adore. That sort of thing is something very recent and it's only getting bigger. More artists want to be seen, even if it's a few scenes in a minions movie or something on netflix. Keeping everything completely uniform, especially in the animation fandom, is just not something we look for as much anymore. We appreciate things on a whole different level than we ever did before, and yes that is very much thanks to social media.
As a kid I always wondered why her mom didn't just get her a dollhouse to live in like that other Thumbelina and Tom thumb movie
Because she treated her as her child like her baby she even sleeps in a crib.
Pretty sure the movie takes place in a time period before dollhouses were even a thing
@@jakubrockstein8980 Hm. Google says they existed by the 17th century...
Shrek 2 has them two together
Bruh frfr im sure the farmer down the road would love to make a dollhouse!
If I were Thumbelina’s mother my anxiety issues would be significantly worse than they are now. My blood pressure would skyrocket every time she left my line of sight
Seriously! Anytime we've had a new tiny kitten/puppy the first few weeks are spent in abject terror anytime I'm not 100% certain where they are. I can't imagine having a child that will never get taller than my thumb to worry about. Any time I stepped on ANYTHING. I would be about ready to die thinking I killed my tiny human.😂
Like just walking around the house would have me clenching my pearls
Same, I would especially be worried when she's around animals
If I ever couldn't find her, I would've just thought I accidentally stepped on her or knocked her out a window at some point
Movie itself: too quiet
Me: bumps up volume
Ad: *WHOPPER, WHOPPER, WHOPPER, WHOPPER*
😂😂😂😂😂
This comment killed me
This is the kind of movie your local dentist’s office would play for children waiting to get their cavities filled.
They should be thankful that they don't live in Germany and the only thing on the television is a Dingo Pictures movie.
According to Bluth, the screenwriter used all of their time writing the first script, and in the end, he decided to step in and only had a week to write the new script
That explains A LOT
Explains a lot about this plot 💀
What was the first script like? Like what did they change or better said why???
Does it even matter though since they barely even strayed away from the original written story? Like there were some minor tweaks here and there especially with some designs but overall every single major plot point that's shown was how the book was written (and almost to the t might I add)
Jaquobi: My work here is Le done.
Thumbelina: but you didn't do anything
Jaquobi: *flies away*
😂 Like a April Fool’s joke huh?
In Thumbelina's defense, how much interaction with other people could that girl have had her entire life? Also this is probably the first guy she met who wasn't the size of a small mountain in comparison. Of course she's going to be interested in him. Luckily he's a decent enough guy but what naïve young woman ISN'T going to lose her head in that sort of situation.
Also, she was already a fully grown woman when she was born from the flower, so we don't even know for how long she has been alive for. She very well could have been mere days old for all we know.
@@ArbitruaryLemon35 True, the song the barnyard animals were singing seemed to imply she hadn't been there for very long.
@@ArbitruaryLemon35 Also, I'm pretty sure her "mother" was already old when she was born so your theory stands.
An asexual one
@@ArbitruaryLemon35 I think she's 16??
Ms. Frog: "Thumbelina you will be apart of our group and marry my son !"
*Leaves Thumbelina on a lilly pad and takes off*
*Cuts back to them later*
"Looks like Thumblina gave you the slip lol"
Did you really think she' just sit there for hours waiting for you to return ?
R.I.P. Gilbert Gottfried
He will be missed and he will not be forgotten
He will be remember.
R.I.P. He was one of the most iconic voice actors ever!
He's probably doing the aristocratics joke in Heaven as we speak.
R.I.P., Mister Gottfried.
Yeah I'm gonna miss that Bastard so much
What’s strange to me about Thumbelina is that I kinda feel like she does have a character- and it’s that she’s extremely sheltered & naive. She wants to fit in somewhere and doesn’t really know how the world works, & all these different parties take advantage of that. I feel like the pieces are there for a pretty solid character arc, but the final result ended up being more unwittingly creepy than anything else.
Like most of Don Bluth's films Thumbelina may not be perfect, But it was still a fun movie to watch during childhood!
Agreed!!! I loved this movie growing up.
I still love this movie
Don has a variety of female characters over male characters
Same even though their were confusing moments to not understand but this is still apart of my childhood but honestly the Barbie thumbelina movie was better than this
I dunno, I think all his 1980s movies were perfect. The '90s is where they started varying in quality.
Even as a little kid when I watched this I thought, "Why the hell does that frog have boobs?"
Because is Charo's frogsona!! :D
I grew upbon Nick At Night & wondered why Frog Mom was Charro from Love Boat.
She's ugly and toxic AF!
Babs: Welcome to the 90s.
In my times, innuendos we’re the best because it can’t be too kid friendly. Lol!
@@adampellett4917 I grew up in the 90s. It's funny looking back at all the stuff that flew over our heads as kids
About her not having a character arc, I feel like she *almost* had one and that's even more frustrating. The entire time, she's learning about different types of love and marriage , all leading to that final scene where she rejects everyone's proposals, putting her foot down, and leaving. It would have made far more sense for her to look back on all that and tell the Prince "no, I'd like to take my time". But nah, instead it's as if she completely forgot the prior scene and any potential growth goes down the drain :/
Also wow, this movies' a lot more disjointed than I remember lol
Well the lesson she learn isn't really anything about waiting with marriage, it's about only about marring the guy she likes instead of who other people want her to marry. Also let's be honest, it's probably all another H. C. Andersen metaphor for his gay-angst. Like she is different from everyone else, then she finds somone who is like her and she want to be with, but she can't and then there are all these other people who are interested in her, but she isn't interested in, but everyone around her expects her to want to marry. And in the end she rejects society's demands and sticks with her love. And unlike The Little Mermaid Andersen gave his self-insert a happy ending this time.
@@Painocus kek you did read into the guy's works khahaha
The point of all the rejections was clearly to demonstrate that marrying for love is the right thing to do, not waiting an arbitrary amount of time. It's not like waiting had anything to do with her not marrying the others. She didn't love them and that was that.
@@Crygear Oh. You didn't know. Not knowing anything about H. C. Andersen is not a reason to project your ignorance about the man's life unto other people. Wait until you hear about Oscar Wilde's private life.
She kinda had this thing about finding other people like her in the beginning, and “earning her wings”, but in the most vague and unexplored way
3:42 Apollo and Daphne ? JESUS
yes that wonderful love story where a petty love god makes Apollo fall in love with a woman and when he tries to rape her she turns into a plant to avoid him. True Love 😂
18:54 "What if she was like, slightly taller than him" that would be hilarious; Thumby here wants to meet tiny people like her and ends up learning the actually-tiny people are small compared to her so she's still a freak. Side note we watched this movie 10,000,000 times as kids and probably would watch it again for pure nostalgia, I say "freak" out of love
The bumblebee is the best character in the entire film. Such a delightfully chubby boy.
I remember my little brother watching this with me and just saying "why doesn't the prince also send his servants to look for her"
Smart boy
I mean, apparently the winter was coming (super dangerous to fairies because of the cold) and because he's the ✨hero✨ he probably wouldn't want anyone else getting hurt.
To be fair if youve ever read the actual "Thumbelina" by Hans Christian Anderson, its pretty one for one. Kidnapped by a toad who wants her as the bride for her son, saved by friendly fish, escapes, drifts on a lilypad until found by a beetle who likes her until she is rejected by his friends,when winter comes she is found by a fieldmouse who tries to convince her to marry her neighbor the mole, injured swallow in the tunnel she saves, thumbelina escapes the mole with the swallow she saved before, meets a fairy prince and marries him....I mean other than the prince being at the end of the original story...
The most unintentionally funniest part of the film is: during the mid-song sequence with the swallow and the background singer birds he says "sing, my little chickadees!" The funniest part about that is there are NO chickadees in Europe...but we do have their sister bird the tit, meaning he should've said "sing, my little tits!" but yeah LOL
Swallow: "I, myself, am a swallow of great pleasure."
Archer: "Phrasing!"
In defense of Jacquimo, at least he helped Thumbelina remind her that Cornelius still loves her for who she is. Yeah, that bird that is an optimistic idiot, had a tender moment with her in that one scene after Mr. Beetle called her "ugly" after that Broadway show incident.
Weelll not really imo: That bird basically was like “No, he still loves you… because yer hawt”
@@Cajek2 Well, its a mixed message here.
@@pennysanchez7656 Not the most empowering story heh
I guess you can say he has a "bird brain" ;)
@@kevinyonan2147 GOT EM
On Romeo and Juliet:
Yes, they did technically get married. It was a very subtle, old-timey thing where they held hands and said a couple words, and because they did it in a church in front of a priest and in the name of God they technically married themselves in that moment. Freaked out my English teacher with that fact because when I mentioned the part where they got married he was like, wait, no they didn't. Then I showed him the appendix notes for that passage and yeah. They did. English teacher didn't even know when it was right there in the appendix notes.
Yep, married, otherwise, their sex would have been (gasp!) A SIN!! Not that their being, like 12 and 14 wasn’t, nope, not in 15th century Fair Verona or wherever it was.
My favourite part was when Saber referred to others with ADHD/autism as colleagues, like they work together at the Wonky Brain Factory.
That one don't hug me I'm scared office episode
When I was very young I loved this movie and still do. It has a great message to not let someone push you into marrying someone you don't love and I like Thumbelina's character in general standing out from other heroines. A lot of people think the message was marry on your own terms for some reason when it's don't let someone push you into marrying someone you don't love. Maybe if people would actually pay attention to the movie or actually watching it instead of assuming what happens they would get it.
But doesn't "not letting yourself pushed to marry someone you don't love" and "marrying someone on your own terms" kinda go hand in hand? Like saying "I don't wanna marry this person" is another way to say that you wanna marry on your own terms rather than be forced into a marriage you don't want.
Unless I'm misreading something here.
@@Account_Not_Applicable Girl it's 11 at night RN and this is from 5 months ago and I don't even remember LMAO
I laughed so hard at "Pedo ball" that my cat glared at me for interrupting his nap. It doesn't help that I'm extremely sick and super dizzy.
I'm revisiting this just for that line.
I like Thumbelina a lot even as an adult. As a kid I watched it countless times
Same!
Same!
This movie felt like there were a lot of characters and therefore Thumbelina couldn't be fleshed out much (also Princey just showing up suddenly at the end to save her without any indication he finally got freed was kinda funny)- that said, she just keeps getting swept away by EVERYONE, and when she does get angry and put her foot down to tell the sparrow to stop, they still don't listen. Like half of the dialogue between her and others are people just disregarding everything she says and it's like she's talking to a brick wall lol it's not a bad movie, but you definitely have to just kinda shut your brain off for this one
Also that weird... probably an adult frog... going after a teenager was the weirdest plotline of them all, this movie felt like a horror movie than an adventure romance lmao
Another big problem this movie has is there entirely too many songs numbers.
@@imlaughing2death hard agree. I skipped at least two because they tested my patience at the end lol
ok, but the bumblebee was adorable
Thumbelina's mother just lets her walk amongst the chickens like it's no big deal. Chickens are probably the worst thing besides a cat for a child that size to be around especially in a group. I've seen them fight over frogs and mice. The second one of those birds considers her food she is done.
"Are they in France?"
Artists who took the time to do specific detail work on Notre Dame so it would be immediately recognizable to international audiences that was on screen mere seconds before: am I a joke to you?
Weird to make the setting there considering Thumbelina’s original author Han’s Christian Andersen is from Denmark.
Ms. Toad awakened something in me! 😳
Frist boner😂?
same
Go back to sleep 😭
This movie along with the swan princess inspired me to make so many fashions for my paper dolls and drawings when I was younger
I kinda knew a guy who worked on this movie, now my sister has an original drawing of the house in Thumbelina. Idk why I'm saying it, I just felt like sharing :D
The fairy king's design is actually cool. Love the facial hair. The queen looks like Lois Griffin.
Surprised Family Guy hasn’t done a parody because of that. Maybe because this wasn’t a box office hit.
Oh, I've remembered this movie! Don Bluth's films are always a nostalgic hit.
This was my favourite movie as a kid. She's naive and sheltered. I was being SA by both men that were supposed to be my "dads" and this movie have me hope that one day I will find my prince, and I will overcome 😌
It actually helped give me standards LOL
Always read it that way as a child.
I remember watching the scene where the mouse mother sings to Thumbilina about marrying for money and power not love and I couldn’t agree more
I actually really liked this film when I was a kid. I watched it so many times. This brings back a whole world of nostalgia!
The movie is enjoyable😁 Lots of nostalgia. I would absolutely show this to my kids.❤ Honestly I like the sparrow. He was the only one who really cared about her wellbeing. More so than the prince himself. He looks out for her and even aids her in finding the Vale. He really gives his all for her, risks his life,, and she kinda ditches him for a prince who can't keep it in his pants. The prince only like her for her looks. The sparrow saw so much more in her. He should have been the love interest, like a cursed fairy.
REAL
Been hearing saber go "thumbalinaAaAaAaA!" For what feels like two weeks
Movie starts:... Holly shit! He was spot on! 👏
As odd as the design is the frog mom looks super fun to animate
In response to Rishi's question about Romeo and Juliet, they were married at the end of the second act, right before the big fight between Romeo and Tybalt. Romeo was then kicked out of Verona because Tybalt ended up killed and before he left, Romeo and Juliet spent the night together. His leaving led to Juliet being betrothed to Paris, faking her death and then later Romeo and Juliet killing themselves in the Capulet crypt at the end of the play
Saber speaks of knowing of insects, but questions how a little person, almost the size of most insects, can survive and live. xD
Insects don't have bones though they have exoskeletons
I think he's referring to what terrifying nightmare creatures called insects would decide she's food.
A bugs life. 😂
If you cant turn up the movie's volume try turning down your and her volume. The listeners can then turn up their overall volume
Imagine being eight years old and listening to this movie everyday because your six year old sister is obsessed with it. The music isn't bad in this movie, but after about a year of constant playing even "Marry the Mole" gets old.
Honestly, thank you for the thumbnail. When I watched the movie as a 3rd grader, that frog was the BANE OF MY EXISTENCE!!!!!!!!! I hated everything about her. The fact you used a silly frame of that described how much I hated her. Thank you so much, it genuinely brought me a laugh 😂.
I unironicly loved this movie growing up.
there's a lot of competent animators, actors, and musicians in the movie, but they're all let down by the lack of a real plot or point to link the whole movie together.
This movie is a guilty pleasure for me, I was obsessed with it as a little kid
Thumbalina was one of my favorite childhood movies. I used to replay that "Let me be your wings" song and the beetle ball.
The fact they used the voice of aerial from the original little mermaid had this on VHS and DVD
The fact that she agreed to this 😑
I don’t think Saber should drink, he seems to act too immature while intoxicated.
It was fine at the beginning of the stream but after a while I was like, my man, slow down. She kept having to tell him to stop making inappropriate comments
I think he is drunk just slightly annoying like many drunk People try to be funny
Man this, while looking back being one of the weirdest movies from don bluth I’ve watched, was my childhood, I absolutely loved it
Does anyone else notice this weird delay in the audio?
Yup
Absolutely
Yes!
Had this on bhs as a kid and it came with a cheap bracelet I loved. My little sister swiped it one day and put it over the plug prongs of a nightlight and plugged it in. :( lost the bracelet and she learned a valuable lesson that day as well as getting launched across the room that day. My dad was so confused when the house had a brown out because of it he was in our basement cleaning something
1:14:36 I've found that painting my nails stops me from chewing on them (tastes too gross). also adding extra layers of paint makes the edge less sharp so that helps with my dermatillomania. I'd recommend it if you're into it, plus theres a gazillion pretty colors you can choose from :)
Very classic film. I have recently seen this on disney plus! It's funny how 20th century studios bought the rights to this movie even though it's actually a Warner bros picture! Plus the "always follow your heart" song kinda got stuck inside my head! I can't stop singing to it! 😅
Charro Frog was my favourite when I was a kid. I wonder if Nicki Minage modelled her look on her.
56:48 SaberSpark: We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
Just wanted to give credit to Lindsay Ellis and Nostalgia Chick, not Nostalgia Critic, who reviewed this movie
as a kid these frogs made me feel very uncomfortable... and they still do
Yay everything grondel and Mr beetle on screen I feel like I should be asking for an adult most the guy villains in this movie are some of the biggest incels I've seen 😢
Jacquimo is my fave character in this film, I will fight you (in minecraft)! lol
The movie itself is harmless. It is remembered fondly for some of it's moments, but it really is just "middle of the road" as it were.
Also, I still can't believe "Marry the Mole" was the first animated song to acquire a Razzie. It sincerely isn't that bad to deserve that award.
the teapot at 18:33 just unlocked a memory of a dream that I had... I was crawling in and around the teapot like Thumbelina did with the prince. Fun memory, was like 7 i think.
Man I may be on the minority here but Don Bluth’s rotoscopia has always weird me out, his human characters just move so weird, and have such weird/generic faces, that’s why I prefer the secret of nimh, not only for the dark tone but because they don’t use much rotoscopia there
What if I told you this was more memorable than at least half of the disney movies from the 90s
Look I'm just going to say it, this movie is a guilty pleasure. There are some good things about it, like the song Let me be Your Wings(the amount UA-cam covers say it all), the animation(no, I don't care that it looks weird when you pause it on a certain shout even Beauty and the Beast had this going on. Plus its no were near as bad as that one Tom and Jerry movie), plus Jodie Benson basically kind of carrying this movie. Though if I'm being, honest, out of all the animated movies out there that could use the remake treatment, I don't think I would mind this getting one. What do you guys think?
isn't Alice in Wonderland a movie where a girl does nothing and things just happen to her? Isn't that movie better when it does that vs when its a war?
"Baby expert pedo ball" just sounds like a description of Stanley from Troll in Central Park".
Barry Manilow wrote the songs the same guy who would write the songs for Pebble in the Penguin.
Also screw the bird for not flying Thumbelina home.
Don bluth dint have it easy since disney allready grabbed all of the best fairy tales for itself
I love these uploads so much. So glad this channel exists lmao, I could watch these two watch dumb animated movies all day.
Honestly I feel like there were waaay too many pauses and tangents in this one. I like Saber’s tangents, but when there’s a new one every two minutes it’s way too much.
Indeed, i can live with talking OVER this Movie, but pausing every time its way to annoying
I absolutely love the Beetle Ball scene and her butterfly dress but those subtitles stole the show
Nostalgia for me as my old school played the ‘ugly bug ball’ after this and omg for me today the quality makes me feel old
What I suspected from the beginning is that Thumbelina is a half fairy or a not fully fledged fairy which is why she's freakishly tiny and doesn't have wings, and I guess her new wings are proof. It might be a right of passage or something because her getting wings makes no sense if she is supposed to be just a bug sized human straight up.
Ah yes, another childhood film that I watched back then when I was a kid and I kind of forgot about until this video came out, so thanks for remembering me of this movie
I've been watching/listening to these in the background while I write. All night, can't sleep with the imps and goblins scratching at the inner walls of my mind.
So I write. Meanwhile I've had these streams playing. I find myself snickering and squeaking out ugly giggles. I'm smiling.
Thank you.
I can't be okay, but. I can smile and that's really nice.
It's okay to not be okay. Laughter is the best medicine anyway.
Thumbelina is another one that still managed to entertain me.
When Thumbelina sees the treasure, at the end of the film, and I heard you guys saying: "Money! A treasure! The true meaning of love! F**k you, fairy prince! I'm taking this money! I'm getting the f**k out of here!", I laughed so hard that I started my day in the best way possible! XD XD XD Thank you, Saber!
Howard Ashman was the one who did the score for those early 90s Disney films and passed away in 1991
I love these movie night with these two she's so nice to watch it with them but I do wish there was a way to boost the sound for the movie because it's like you tried listening really hard to the sound of the movie and then you hear them just super loud laughing and it's like okay hello loud
I had the same thought, they really need some better audio mixing for these recordings 🥲
I remember watching this when I was young, but my memory of the movie was so warped. I remembered that it looked more serious and the characters looked and acted less goofy. My memories of this movie vs the actual movie was so different that when I tried to watch it again a few months ago, I thought I was watching a different movie.
My sister and I watched this again about a year ago. We started pointing out what laws they were braking :P
Kidnapping, breaking and entering, etc.
My fiance is literally to me like how the beetle first approaches Thumbalina every time I come home from work 😂❤
Fun Fact: Tony Jay also did voicework as Lord Dregg in the last 2 seasons of TMNT in the 90s!
NGL, the only times Bluth's style for human faces actually worked to me were Dragon's Lair and Anastasia. Kinda uncanny otherwise.
American Tale and sword in the stone was some of his best work, in my opinion
40:13 I find this so interesting, and I really admire artists that develop their own style. I'm a really self-conscious person, and I struggle with my art sometimes, but one thing that I'm happy about is that I eventually found my style when drawing cartoons. Everyone is unique in their own way and have their own style, which is really cool.
1:41:28 I loved this as well. I'm a huge fan of entomology, and I think insects are awesome! Especially wasps. Most people hate them, but they have a special place in my heart.
And finally, looking back on this movie, it makes me quite uncomfortable to see Thumbelina get harassed by creepy men. That probably wasn't the intention of the movie, but it comes off that way. Especially when you say no to someone and they don't take no for an answer. I don't hate it, though. I used to watch it when I was little and enjoy it, but I was too young to fully understand.
Interesting and hilarious commentary, as always!
16:18 I just realized the guy voicing the king sounds like littlefoot’s grandpa from the land before time sequels.
Same voice actor, Kenneth Mars
Personally I love Thumbelina
It may be a bit rocky, quality-wise but I still think there was still a lot of love and meaning in it.
People interpret different themes in different movies, and the way I interpret Thumbelina is that it's a story about self-love and finding a good support system for yourself.
Of course I could be wrong but an optimistic part of me wants to believe in that message ^^
Every time she laughs, I think of Banjo Kazooie.
1:32:50
Yes, absolutely! When I was a kid, I had a Megaman cross fusion 10in. figure with a longsword attachment. I can't tell you why, but I just looked to chew on... its nose. XD You'd think I'd have chewed on the sword, bring just the right size and shape for chewing, but I went straight for the teeny tiny nose. lol
Fun Fact: "Marry the Mole" is the only song from an animated film to win Worst Original Song at the Razzies
UA-cam auto subtitles really can’t understand Gilford Godfrey 😂
I hope you're ready to throw hands Saber 😠 lol on a side note this is such a classic to me I always find comfort in it. To me it plays out like someone reading a storybook, nothing complex just a simple story of a girl and her prince.
Like most of the characters in this movie are creeps, but not really evil per se. The beetle was indeed a jerk for basically setting up Thumbelina for ridicule at his show and also smooching her arms and hands nonconsensually, the frog fell in love for barely a gesture, and Mr. Mole mainly was a snob but didn't seem absolutely like a total creep comparatively with the other two. Heck, the prince was creepier than Mr. Mole in the beginning. Weirdly enough Giacomo was probably the most chemistry we get from this movie, and he was entirely platonic. Which is great, but compared to the rest of these actual hookups he is way more suitable, which in turn is embarrassing. Heck, considering Thumbelina's only safe options for marrying someone are either another fairy or a bunch of small animals that are completely sentient and talk, it wouldn't be any weirder marrying a bird than a fairy considering before the ending she doesn't become a fairy yet at all, and for all anyone knows she is just a weird human. Either option would have been another species regardless.
22:44 *Cornelius is like GIMME KISS😂😂*
The dude’s voice for Cornelius is just pure cheese especially in song form.
To be honest I only came here to see their reaction to them frogs
This was my absolute favorite movie as a tiny child
I'd like to think the MAP community helped contribute to the transparency of who animated what in each project. When everyone is doing their own scenes following character color and patterns but will absolutely go off model and draw the characters in their own style, yet everyone can still easily follow along with what's going on even those who have no idea who these characters are. It's something very special. In the MAP community it's very normal for folks to post their roughs, storyboards, finished parts, and has been for the better part of a decade. Now more animators who even work on huge projects today feel a lot more comfortable sharing what they worked on. Even the MLP community, as much as I hate to give them any sort of clout, helped contribute to this when the artists were sharing the animatics of the scenes they worked on and giving people are glimpse of what it's like. You can so very clearly see who did what. From the early 2010s onward the trend of sharing what animations you worked on has just grown bigger and bigger to the point that we follow studio level content because we recognize animators and artists we adore. That sort of thing is something very recent and it's only getting bigger. More artists want to be seen, even if it's a few scenes in a minions movie or something on netflix. Keeping everything completely uniform, especially in the animation fandom, is just not something we look for as much anymore. We appreciate things on a whole different level than we ever did before, and yes that is very much thanks to social media.