Exactly. Who wants to live in a society that, no matter how much you work, how hard you work, how much of an expert you are, you are still worth the same as a lazy idiot with no skills?
But none of them is addressing the real issue: Why is being topless in USA illegal for women but legal for men. First fix that inequality, then move to those less important. Priorities!!
@@ayush4460 well, by the law you have to hide the equipment. For women it's easier. For men... well there are 3 parts sticking out, so it's harder. But it's possible. Remember Borat's swimsuit?
@@cinegraphics your last comment proves yet again that men and women are not the same, so it’s illogical to make them both equal (if that’s the argument). The goal isn’t gender equity. The goal is equal or fair opportunity. Know what I mean?
@@DanielKolbin I like the fact that men and women are different. That's how the nature made it. And we shouldn't change it. But if someone is pushing the agenda of making everything equal, against the nature, then they should for a start make male and female nipples equal by law.
Here's something where equality fails. In USA men can freely show their nipples in public, while for women it's illegal. There, an openly discrimin. law and none of the feminist groups are complaining. Topless against inequality!!
Wrong!! Equality = being treated the same regardless of differences Equity = Being provided with what’s needed to succeed. IE being treated fairly with impartiality
As long as you are consistent. Men have significantly worse outcomes in multiple domains today, for example, so are we to employ equity to produce equal outcomes there? For example, 63% of postgraduate students in the US are female. Do we then implement policies to achieve equal graduation rates? Perhaps male-only scholarships? Correcting female-centrism in curricula and recruitment? Making sure faculty in programmes like psychology, education and gender studies are 50-50 male/female, instead or around 80% female, as found in many such programmes today?
Nonsense. Everyone should get equal oppurtanity, but outcome depends on the indivisuals. And this fact is irrespective of the gender. If you give $1million each to 100 people to grow that money. After 10years you will get variety of outcome. So do you want to say, that we need to give more money to the bad invester so that at end each have same money ?😅
Heck no. Let the market decide who is to get more money. Or tax women higher, if they need special laws and prevelages that make their life’s better and easier.
Society needs kids to be born and raised. If we want that to happen, we have to make it feasible for women to do those things without falling behind economically.
@@ivan11h well if it's not happening in your country it happens in mine 😕and yes,absent fathers are in fact not a rare species. Before u argue just pick up ur phone and Google it's just that simple. You don't even have to do alot🙄
You can have liberty or you can have equality of outcome. You can’t have both. I choose liberty. Give me liberty or give me death is American. The equity philosophy is not possible without a huge governmental bureaucracy. I know I don’t want that.
Equity is a supremacist movement, I believe in sex equality however I highly disagree with gender equity, in order to achieve equity you have to sink high-ranking/working people down to a lower level and settle for mediocrity.
“And i heard from the people i was working with…Liz i want an opportunity not a handout” 😂 sounds like they want equal opportunity which is the antithesis to “equity”. This concept they describe as equity is exactly that…giving handouts and special privileges to those deemed to belong to “marginalized” groups. It would require an unsupportable amount of government oversight to operationalize and would amount to government sanctioned discrimination against those groups deemed to be of a “privileged” class. As if thats not bad enough, it would foster a culture of victimhood; as thats the only way you could avoid being discriminated against based on whatever “privileged” status they deem you to possess.
There's a difference between equality and equity. An example would be equality makes sure every family gets a gallon milk per week. (aka Communism) Equity is making sure every family gets the proper amount of milk needed. Think about a family of one person vs a family with two newborn babies. The family with babies would require more milk. Equality is not always fair. Equity is.
In this question we need to introduce another dimension: RESPONSIBILITY. Let's make a scenario: We are building a new plant for the local society. We hire 50% women and 50% male to meet the modern criterias for gender equality. Next we inform the local citizens that it's a Nuclear Plant and that qualifications and experience for running the Nuclear-Plant is second to gender equality. Is that a responsible decision ? and how do you think the citizens in the local society will react ? The scenario is equal to managing a company. If education, experience and quality is second to gender equality - this could end up in disasters ..
The goal should not be to create equality of outcome. Using FDRs poker examle in defense of his New Deal policies. Our goal is not to make sure everyone gets the same cards but that everyone gets cards off the top of the deck.
I think common-sense people see a need for equity like they see a need for "welfare" - it has to be in uncommon circumstances and used in sparing amounts... e.g. giving admission to the the poor, really smart kid from minority community in Alabama who studied his ass off and scored in the top 5% on the entrance exam to Caltech VS. the rich kid (also a really smart and studious kid) from Saddle River, NJ who scored a top 3% on the same test, and whose father is a professor at Princeton - this I can see but not too much more.
why should we give equal outcome for all when not every individual has the smae level of skill for a job... It would be best to let people be given enough opportunity to develope skills but ultimately allow for the selection process to select based on skill... Face it we are not all equally skilled and thus we wont all get the same outcome, you forcing the same outcome even when people are different in skill will make a corrupt and inefficient system where people don't Excell based on skill but nothing at all...
People should not have the same outcome become some people work harder than others, and the hard truth wether you like it or not is that men tend to take on higher paying roles and provide more value (not all but most)
In case you come across the idiotic fence meme that people like to use: This is a false representation of equality. Equality means equality of opportunity. If everyone on the left was not able to access the game because of the short box, then that isn’t true equality. Re-draw the left with everyone having access with a tall box, with their heads being varying natural heights above the fence. THAT is true equality. Everyone can see the game, and some will have a naturally better view due to their natural abilities, but everyone can watch. On the other hand, notice how on the equity side all the heads are at the same short height. This means we stunt the natural ability of some for the benefit of those who don’t have it. We equalize an outcome, in an effort to remove nature. It will never truly work because there’s too many factors to be accounted for. Also, “Justice” is an impossible political fantasy. Making the fence a chain link means everyone has a worse view than they did in true equality…now everyone has to look through bars. Removing the fence means taking away essential systems in our community (in the metaphor it means safety). The fence is there for a reason, and needs to stay there. Just like we have laws to protect our right to equality.
Removing the fence is removing the inequity that caused the disparity in the first place. The fence is the antiquated system that’s run it’s course. It either needs to be removed or updated to be a better fit for the world it’s in now. You don’t conform to the fence, you conform to the demand.
Why do you want equal outcome? Not everybody is equal, and therefore the outcomes will naturally differ.
Exactly. Who wants to live in a society that, no matter how much you work, how hard you work, how much of an expert you are, you are still worth the same as a lazy idiot with no skills?
💯 agree
As a woman i agree.
FAX
The market will find a way
"but women require more than just the even playing field"
RED FLAG
But none of them is addressing the real issue: Why is being topless in USA illegal for women but legal for men. First fix that inequality, then move to those less important. Priorities!!
@@ayush4460 well, by the law you have to hide the equipment. For women it's easier. For men... well there are 3 parts sticking out, so it's harder. But it's possible. Remember Borat's swimsuit?
@@cinegraphics your last comment proves yet again that men and women are not the same, so it’s illogical to make them both equal (if that’s the argument). The goal isn’t gender equity. The goal is equal or fair opportunity. Know what I mean?
@@DanielKolbin I like the fact that men and women are different. That's how the nature made it. And we shouldn't change it. But if someone is pushing the agenda of making everything equal, against the nature, then they should for a start make male and female nipples equal by law.
@@cinegraphicsPeople are fighting and struggling to make two ends meet and that's what you're concerned about??
Equality means everyone gets the same test. Equity means everyone gets the same grad.
I see a fairness problem.
Truly sir.
Yessir
That's an illiterate level understanding.
From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs .
Equality= sameness
Equity=fairness
@@descartes_8696 It's actually exactly the other way around.
At first it was "we want equality", now it is "women need special laws and support" , what the . ?
Here's something where equality fails. In USA men can freely show their nipples in public, while for women it's illegal. There, an openly discrimin. law and none of the feminist groups are complaining. Topless against inequality!!
Why are only women "diverse"?
A more fashionable way to say "preferential treatment". 😂😂.
Equality = equality of opportunity
Equity = equality if outcome aka communism.
Females are the biggest supporters of authoritarianism and the least likely to question or stand up to authority
Think you got that one backwards
Wrong!!
Equality = being treated the same regardless of differences
Equity = Being provided with what’s needed to succeed. IE being treated fairly with impartiality
then why women have more income in onlyfans than men
Equality and equity both are needed just at the right place. And it must be for both the genders.
As long as you are consistent. Men have significantly worse outcomes in multiple domains today, for example, so are we to employ equity to produce equal outcomes there? For example, 63% of postgraduate students in the US are female. Do we then implement policies to achieve equal graduation rates? Perhaps male-only scholarships? Correcting female-centrism in curricula and recruitment? Making sure faculty in programmes like psychology, education and gender studies are 50-50 male/female, instead or around 80% female, as found in many such programmes today?
Nonsense.
Everyone should get equal oppurtanity, but outcome depends on the indivisuals.
And this fact is irrespective of the gender.
If you give $1million each to 100 people to grow that money.
After 10years you will get variety of outcome.
So do you want to say, that we need to give more money to the bad invester so that at end each have same money ?😅
I highly agree with you, even as a women like me, her saying these stuff kinda ticks me off
Heck no. Let the market decide who is to get more money. Or tax women higher, if they need special laws and prevelages that make their life’s better and easier.
Society needs kids to be born and raised. If we want that to happen, we have to make it feasible for women to do those things without falling behind economically.
@@terry9238 what about those women who don’t give birth? We already help women out financially when they deliver babies.
@@ivan11h and absent fathers? What should be done to them?
@@zenya9620 absent fathers - what a joke!
@@ivan11h well if it's not happening in your country it happens in mine 😕and yes,absent fathers are in fact not a rare species. Before u argue just pick up ur phone and Google it's just that simple. You don't even have to do alot🙄
"Equity" alias "no matter what you do you will get the same result so working hard doesn't make sense"
The feminist movement lost its credibility the moment their goal went from equal rights, to equal outcome
Of course, these are the things that will fuel other types of inequality, so there will never be peace.
Got equality. Now want inequality? I’m Confucius
Embracing gynocentric supremacy in the open, I guess?
Each person or only girls?
In conclusion, equity means I should have the same net worth as Elon Musk.
You can have liberty or you can have equality of outcome. You can’t have both. I choose liberty. Give me liberty or give me death is American. The equity philosophy is not possible without a huge governmental bureaucracy. I know I don’t want that.
Equity is a supremacist movement, I believe in sex equality however I highly disagree with gender equity, in order to achieve equity you have to sink high-ranking/working people down to a lower level and settle for mediocrity.
“And i heard from the people i was working with…Liz i want an opportunity not a handout” 😂 sounds like they want equal opportunity which is the antithesis to “equity”. This concept they describe as equity is exactly that…giving handouts and special privileges to those deemed to belong to “marginalized” groups. It would require an unsupportable amount of government oversight to operationalize and would amount to government sanctioned discrimination against those groups deemed to be of a “privileged” class. As if thats not bad enough, it would foster a culture of victimhood; as thats the only way you could avoid being discriminated against based on whatever “privileged” status they deem you to possess.
There's a difference between equality and equity. An example would be equality makes sure every family gets a gallon milk per week. (aka Communism) Equity is making sure every family gets the proper amount of milk needed. Think about a family of one person vs a family with two newborn babies. The family with babies would require more milk. Equality is not always fair. Equity is.
cue soviet anthem
Lol the empathetic gender
Equal rights equal fights
Please stop spamming our feed with these Shorts!!! There’s TikTok or instagram for that.
WOKE NONESENSE
So, communism. Got it.
Some people are more equal then others.
Who determines rules for creating equity and measuring the outcome? because that’s one powerful group.
How was Jordan Peterson's makeup comment problematic?
In this question we need to introduce another dimension: RESPONSIBILITY. Let's make a scenario: We are building a new plant for the local society. We hire 50% women and 50% male to meet the modern criterias for gender equality. Next we inform the local citizens that it's a Nuclear Plant and that qualifications and experience for running the Nuclear-Plant is second to gender equality. Is that a responsible decision ? and how do you think the citizens in the local society will react ? The scenario is equal to managing a company. If education, experience and quality is second to gender equality - this could end up in disasters ..
we still need to uphold meritocracy as our moto
Sorry.. equal conditions are all anyone rates. Anything else, in either direction, is by definition, sexism.
Equality or equity. It depends.
let the women rule the world ones....🤔🙄
Given by whom ? Where do they get the resources they give out ?
The goal should not be to create equality of outcome. Using FDRs poker examle in defense of his New Deal policies. Our goal is not to make sure everyone gets the same cards but that everyone gets cards off the top of the deck.
After the drama of Equality, new drama is going starts with bell ' Equity '
Socialism™️ yay
Worse, it's communism.
They not teaching this tho…got the new gen thinking they can beat up men and live as Men
The feminists are liking this video for sure
Equalize the labor force... Construction worker for example...
I think common-sense people see a need for equity like they see a need for "welfare" - it has to be in uncommon circumstances and used in sparing amounts...
e.g. giving admission to the the poor, really smart kid from minority community in Alabama who studied his ass off and scored in the top 5% on the entrance exam to Caltech VS. the rich kid (also a really smart and studious kid) from Saddle River, NJ who scored a top 3% on the same test, and whose father is a professor at Princeton - this I can see but not too much more.
I’m a business
why should we give equal outcome for all when not every individual has the smae level of skill for a job... It would be best to let people be given enough opportunity to develope skills but ultimately allow for the selection process to select based on skill... Face it we are not all equally skilled and thus we wont all get the same outcome, you forcing the same outcome even when people are different in skill will make a corrupt and inefficient system where people don't Excell based on skill but nothing at all...
People should not have the same outcome become some people work harder than others, and the hard truth wether you like it or not is that men tend to take on higher paying roles and provide more value (not all but most)
So there will be advantages for someone who are less capable? Rubbish
In case you come across the idiotic fence meme that people like to use:
This is a false representation of equality. Equality means equality of opportunity. If everyone on the left was not able to access the game because of the short box, then that isn’t true equality. Re-draw the left with everyone having access with a tall box, with their heads being varying natural heights above the fence. THAT is true equality. Everyone can see the game, and some will have a naturally better view due to their natural abilities, but everyone can watch.
On the other hand, notice how on the equity side all the heads are at the same short height. This means we stunt the natural ability of some for the benefit of those who don’t have it. We equalize an outcome, in an effort to remove nature. It will never truly work because there’s too many factors to be accounted for.
Also, “Justice” is an impossible political fantasy. Making the fence a chain link means everyone has a worse view than they did in true equality…now everyone has to look through bars. Removing the fence means taking away essential systems in our community (in the metaphor it means safety). The fence is there for a reason, and needs to stay there. Just like we have laws to protect our right to equality.
Removing the fence is removing the inequity that caused the disparity in the first place. The fence is the antiquated system that’s run it’s course. It either needs to be removed or updated to be a better fit for the world it’s in now. You don’t conform to the fence, you conform to the demand.
So according to this you will have to spend extra resources for the one parkinson patient that wants to become a surgeon