I have learned so much from all your 5D videos. All great points! I have been shooting with it for about a year and a half. I love my 5D. I have used it for just about everything (portraits, events, sports, landscapes). It does have limitations but a great 1st camera to learn! All the points you described is how I use the camera. Can’t wait for the next 5d video!
Excellent video, the lens that I have glued to my 5D is the 40mm 2.8 which is awesome and highly recommended, value for money is unbeatable. Along with the 6D I just bought, also got the 28mm f1.8, can't wait to receive them 👍🏼
28 1.8 is a magic lens with the 5D classic. I have Been so amazed by this combo. I had bought the 2.8 version, but the 1.8 version has unbelievable Color in combo with the 5d classic
Great vid! My daughter wanted to start photography. when i started it was film!! SO i got her the 5D - the guy at the shop was like get a cheap "new" one and i said NO!! anyone can take a pic with a mobile phone even BUT the 5D with it's rich colour and "back to basics" whether you like it or not will teach her. i did a quick crash course in manual mode, that's what she shoots on - using speed, aperture and ISO - she is actually, in 2 days, coming out with some pretty good pics. Now i am trying to get her to pay attention to the histogram and the light meter through the view finder. oh and i picked up the 5D that was MINT and the count, when we started was 5100 shots. yeah it could have been zero'd but this was like it was in a bag in a cupboard and hardly ever used.
Any video about 5D Classic deserves thumb up and a comment! *My two cents:* install Magic Lantern and set screen saturation to "high" (not "very high") it makes colours pretty close to real (unlike the original pale look). There are more advantages ML adds: fast zoom on playback, intervalometer, workaround to get 2sec timer without locking the mirror, etc. Moreover, I was lucky to find and installed EE-D focusing screen with grid on it. Helps enormously with horizon and composition. There's also another one (EE-S) for fast lenses, showing smaller DoF (kit EE-A only shows about f/2.8 DoF in viewfinder), which makes it easier and joyful for manual focusing.
I started to get a bit bored with photography after buying my 5D Mark IV. But my interest has been rekindled again since buying one of these classics a week ago. Thanks for making your videos!
Great videos about the Canon 5D Classic.... I was wondering... Could you make a video as a buying guide for the Canon 5D Classic... what should we look for? What possible problems can we find? what should we ask the seller? What possible hidden defects can we find? Etc. Thank you very much in advance
Here's something I've done with almost all of my digital EF cameras: get a different focus screen than the default that has split-image focusing where the center AF point is. With that, you can easily and precisely adjust any back- or front-focus issues with fast primes, depending on how accurate your actual eye sight is. I wear strong prescription glasses and I have issues focusing the 50mm f1.2 L on any of my EF cameras with a split-image focus screen. It's not as easy, elegant and fast as using a rangefinder patch, but it can be as precise. I also use a chipped adapter to mount Olympus OM lenses on my EF cameras, I manually focus them using the split-image screen and I get focus confirmation on the center point when manually nailing focus. The longer Olympus OM lenses with fast apertures make EXCELLENT portrait lenses on the 5D.
Thanks. I like your no nonsense, pragmatic, down-to-earth and un-snobbish approach. It's helpful to me as a novice. I've enjoyed watching quite a few of your videos, especially about the Canon 5D.
As someone who has mostly shot medium format film with occasional forays into 4x5 over the past 40 years, and with cameras from the 70s and earlier, I'm always amazed at the features on the newest cameras. I think it's the Sony A7RIV that even has "Insect eye focusing". Wow! My "beginner" T3i was the only digital camera I've had until now, though it served me very well once I pitched its awful kit lens, and I even did some product photography with it that was quite successful. I'm now playing with a 5D Classic and loving it so far. I tend to like things that focus on the _essence_ of what the thing is supposed to be, and for that the 5D Classic is in the same category as my RB67 and 500C, IMHO. Your videos were instrumental in getting me to pull the trigger on the 5D, so thank you! Sent you a coffee. 🙂
I have other newer and more expensive full frames from Nikon and Sony, however for some reason the old 5D’s are just so rewarding to photograph with, and I always want to bring.
I agree about the noise in the photos. which is especially noticeable in modern cameras with a small sensor. In "not noisy" photos at high ISOs, especially, a clear "watercolor" effect appears, with the contours of details outlined. This can be clearly seen when magnified. Moreover, such functions come by default in a raw file. I was able to find original batteries that have been in storage for ten or more years. Surprisingly, they actually kept the capacity.
Just found your channel and I have to say you are great breath of fresh air with your honest views on camera gear and what you do and don't need. I have a 5D classic and a 60D and 70D (70D has a focus issue where it says focused but misses quiet often) I have shot weddings with these bodies for friends and a couple of paid weddings. But watching your channel im looking to get a 6D and a 24-105 F4 L to go with my 70-200 F4 L and the nifty fifty. But again many thanks for your fantastic work, looking forward to more content.
Ten years ago I started on the 650D, which at the time was incredible for the articulating touch screen and from that I began very spoilt for the tech. Last year I upgraded to the 90D and was even more spoilt for all the bells and whistles Then I bought a 6D which took me back a bit and after I got used to it I am really enjoying the process of less distraction and more photo. It turns out the touch screen, while "easy", is very rarely a deal breaker in the ability to take a photo. It never crossed my mind before that I could take a photo without it since that it what I started with. Then I found a deal on a 5DsR and after I started using the two full frame cameras together, I gave the 90D to my girlfriend to replace her 70D and I haven't looked back. The only time I really miss the touch screen is for tripod photos to zoom in and move around to check focus and details, but I use the 6D for that and the smartphone app. Very long story to get to the end point, thank you for the detailed talk about noise and the benefits on it. I was a little disappointed by the 5DsR in non-ideal conditions with the noise it produces in darks, but now I am reconsidering it and realising that perhaps the 5DsR is instead simply NOT removing it for me in camera as opposed to what I was used to in the 90D. I think I am starting to appreciate having the choice of what to do with the noise.
Thats good Dave, noise isnt an issue unless it really degrades the picture. People are far too concerned with it in a way that doesnt help their photography. Enjoy your 5dsr! I had the 5ds and it doesnt have much in the way of built in noise reduction on the RAW files it is very very sharp and detailed even when there is noise.
I was photographing an outside event at a City Park last Sunday. It was a very bright, unusually sunny day, and I couldn't review the images on the rear screen of my 6D's (I use two). But I could see the histograms. I didn't overexpose a single image and underexposed very few. So, I didn't know exactly which of my s😮hots had been successful - but I was confident that enough of them would work out. I didn't even think about substituting my 5D for one of the 6D's. But it would have worked well. Not being able to see either screen would have leveled the playing field with all that glare from the bright sun that is low in the sky this late in the year.
Finally pulled the trigger on getting one and just put in an order. Now I have to decide on a lens. Leaning towards 24-105 F4, as a walkaround lens (a lot of landscape etc). I tend to fall back on those kinds of lenses I notice (I have recently also purchased the Pentax K10D, Nikon D200, Konica Minolta 5D, Olympus E-500, all with CCD sensors. (Plus Sigma SD14). The 5D will be my first old cmos camera, but since everyone says it is as close to CCD you get with CMOS, I wanted to try it...
Recent new subscriber. Love your content Martin. You have a great down to earth style. I've been an Olympus and Nikon shooter until now but am waiting for a new old 5D with a 50mm 1.8 to be delivered. Can't wait to start out on my 5D. learning.
In my experience, the “high iso sweet spot” of the 5D is 1250, just one step lower than the maximum 1600 (without using extended range). from 50 to 1250 any exposure and iso combination is Ok. The real downside of the 5D for me is the lack of sensor cleaning nor AF micro adjustment. I had 9mm of back focus using the 50 f 1.8 STM which I corrected by trimming the inner screws near the shutter, but that is not the best solution because it will affect any other lenses slightly. Its ok by me because I use the 50 all the time and i still getting decent shots with the 70-300 f 4-5.6 IS USM but I don’t recommend doing it unless you know what you’re doing. I also want to mention that your 5D vs 6D is very useful for the 5D lovers who would like to update their classics. Cheers from Argentina.
My 5D the grain at any ISO is very pleasing. I like it. Also, even if I use center point I do have to sometimes take more than one shot to get eyes in focus. Other than that, it produces beautiful detail images.
''I am the Photographer'' - Love it Martin. I agree with you, the tech is amazing; and welcome, but too many young 'photographers' are being led up the technological garden path...at considerable cost, and that not only financial.
I love my classic, I got back into photography after a big break from the Canon AE Program, and bought a 70D. I found it made me lazy and I was losing some skills. The 5D took me back somewhat to those AE days. Agree with you about the focus points. I always use the central point to focus and recompose, much more reliable. One lens that I love with the classic, is the 85mm f1.8. Tried the L lens, but the focussing is too slow, the f1.8 works superbly.
I just picked one of these up after watching some of your vids. At 400 ISO and above, there is some noise but I generally run my RAW files through DXO RAW before I bring them into ACR for processing. The DXO preprocessing does a phenomenal job of smoothing out the noise and actually adding more contrast and detail into the images from my eye. A huge improvement to the files. I like them both ways though depending on the final look I’m trying to achieve with the subject matter. For monochrome images, I think the digital noise renders quite well and has a nice filmic look, which is really why I purchased it to begin with.
Hi Tim, one thing id say is worry less about noise, youtube is teaching everyone its bad, unless its damaging the picture I would not worry about it, the only times i worry with high iso is if the camera is doing in camera noise reduction on the raw file reducing detail or you want to increase dynamic range in editing but not have the colour noise that can come with that. There are so many beautiful but grainy photos.
Thats a good idea John, they are always around but i should pick up another one or two, i do wonder if there will come a point where they are hard to get hold of. thanks for watching!
Damn it!!!! I just bought (again) a 5D Classic. (MPB £200). I owned one 7 years ago but found myself reaching for my 6D all the time. However I've spent the last 7 years wishing I hadn't sold it. My 40mm f/2.8 lived on it (What a superb bargain this lens is). I'm awaiting delivery and can't wait to hear that shutter and see those colours again. I traded my 1D mk2N against it. Another real classic I think, but I never realised it wasn't full-frame (Doh .. do your research), and 8Mp was never enough to justify carrying that tank around. I just can't bear seeing these fabulous cameras, for around 200 quid, going unowned.
I have a pair of 5D bodies, one for colour, the other converted for infrared. Regarding focus, I don’t have any Canon auto focus lenses, so I use a hot shoe mounted optical rangefinder from the 1950’s - works for me. I too, have a set of Hahnel batteries - very good. I also have the battery grip along with two AA battery trays fitted with rechargeable Eneloop batteries - works well, and future proof. I alway keep a lookout for 5D bodies in mint condition, they are out there. A great video about a great camera, and oh yes, the noise at high ISO is very attractive in B&W.
All excellent points! Especially the focus and recompose, and "noise". Well said!! Your advice applies to all cameras. I have a 250D with the same issues. Looking for a 5d2 to compliment it!
Looking forward to your above mentioned video "working with image grain to keep smoother gradations and 3d look" that will be extremely helpful. Thank you so much. You have been a God send.
Another thing about wanting the best equipment is what do you want to do with it, and what to you expect to achieve. The 5d is fantastic but you have to use one to know it's limitations but also it's strengths, they are quite inexpensive now, so don't think spending tons of money on the next best thing will make you a better photographer, using older equipment sometimes makes you better by making you use your brain to make the equipment you have work for you. I'm not a great or technical type of photographer but watching this I realised I am doing some things right, I use the techniques you mention and didn't even know it. Another thing is stop chasing the rainbow because whatever you buy will be out of date quicker than you think, it's the way camera makers work.
Great tip of the focus and recompose, I’ve done that for years and it’s nice to hear it coming from you. I was wondering on your recommendations for an early Canon 1-Ds mkii. I got it as a beginning studio camera and it has just given me stellar results every time I use it. I’d love to see it in your videos. Keep the great videos coming, and cheers from Texas!
I use the 5D indoors with ttl flash. 1600 and even 3200 ISO is not a problem for the most part. People need to understand that noise isnt caused by just high ISO. Noise is caused low signal:noise ratio & underexposure.
As usual great information. As for third party glass, you are correct, I have a Sigma 50mm that works well on some Canon bodies and not others, focus is accurate on one DSLR body and off on another. I have seen this on a Sigma zoom as well, it needed a lot of micro adjustments on the body I used it on, very annoying. So, moral of the story I guess is be careful and maybe go manual lenses here and there, depending if going third party. Although, one would think, that mirrorless bodies might not have as much of a likelihood of a focus issue, at least for single non-tracking shots? Maybe? Yes that screen sucks and I have an early one, I hear they did a slight upgrade on later serial numbers? Basically useful mostly for histogram and the blinkies as you say. I am pondering some m42 ideas, which may bring more pain along with possibilities, worse case I have other bodies with live view. Besides, I find landscapes pretty much don't move, except maybe in California. Good information all along. Best wishes, keep up the good work. God bless!
Mirrorless is much better for focus in general, thats is real benefit. There seems to have been a slight change to some of the 5d bodies on the later ones but im not sure how much of a difference that made. would be interested to see what m42 options you are looking at. Thanks again John!
@@MartinCastein As for m42 lenses I am still very much up in the air for specific lenses per se, however I will definitely be looking for a 50mm and probably something wider as well. I am still researching things. They made some EF mount Zeiss stuff as I recall but I also recall they may be pricey, although Zeiss has a nice look.
Theirs a lot of talk about the importance of learning to read histograms, the only problem is how do you learn to read it? Maybe a short video dedicated to this with examples using a canon 5d would be really useful, I say the 5d only because that’s my main camera.
The remark about the histogram is actually universal, I think. Modern displays are much better in rendering the images on the card, but we should always know that even then they only show us the jpeg image, never the raw file. Also the display will never have the quality of a dedicated and calibrated monitor that can show us a wide gamut. Aside from that, the histogram always shows what is captured and is the most reliable tool on any digital camera. I also think that the display of my Canon 5D (classic) is small and off colour compared to the one on my D750, but in both cases I only rely on the histogram for moving on to the next shot(s). Even when the display of the D750 is roughly comparable to my calibrated monitor. I always had the impression that everyone using a digital camera would read the histogram, but apparently I'm wrong. That's surprisingly because coming from analog photography I would rely on my wonderful Sekonic light meter to give me the perfectly exposed slides. A histogram is so much more convenient and reliable than any light meter because the histogram on a camera tells us exactly what is captured, while any external light meter is not that precisely matched to the camera. Regarding the focusing I can confirm that the 17-40 f/4L works flawless and gives magnificent images on the 5D. I have mentioned before that I bought the 5D mainly because the flange distance allows me to use old and very old lenses. These are all manual focus and in that regard I can say that using the focusing screen works great and very precise. I have a magnifier for the Canon that makes focusing easier, but it also restricts the viewfinder's field, especially with glasses on. Therefor I do not use it often. About noise, I agree one hundred percent with you. A grainy image does look sharper also because of the noise in it. In the analog days (should I name it that?) we used to apply a noise mask to unsharp images to make them appear sharper. Also, I have waited to buy my first digital camera until those who produce raw images became affordable for me because I did absolutely not like the jpegs. Grass was a blob of green, instead of sprites and I disliked it so much. It's also the problem with cellphones these days. One thing also, is what I came to see is about printing. I had to print a noisy, small photo and after I removed the noise and sharpened it up a little, I printed it and could clearly see posterising artifacts. What you describe that noise helps to smoothen out the transitions, is what I thought at that moment and applied noise to the photo, which lead to a very good print with excellent gradation. The Canon 5D is indeed a camera that makes a photographer's heart beat. To me it reminds me a lot of the analog photography and that is a real pleasure for this hobby to me. Having the benefit of digital, makes it a lot more cheaper too. Regarding the battery, I think there is nothing to complain about. Taking photos a whole day, it never let me down once. Also it once happened that I put the camera on the shelf without switching it off and a week later I noticed my mistake but did not have to recharge.
I know a couple of photographers that have been with the 28-135, i havent used it myself though. you could like at primes as well such as 40 and 85 maybe.
I like to torture myself and using manual lense on 5dc. 😂 Hard to nail focus but i enjoy shooting zeiss 50 1.4 with 5dc so much when it gives result , its so efing wonderful.
I came across your channel just yesterday and now I have watched almost all your videos. I find them very insightful. I started my photographic journey with Canon 7D (mark I). Also kind of classic, isn't it ? Are you planning to make videos on this camera ? That would be really awesome. Greetings !
Wow thank you, im glad you are finding them useful thats really nice to hear. Ive heard very good things about the 7d ive never used one though, sorry its unlikely that I will ever make a video about it because of that im afraid.
I'm so glad I came across your channel. I've owned a Canon 5d for a while now, but I haven't used it that much or gotten to know it. I am very grateful for your advice and suggestions on how to use this camera and in what way. I haven't watched all of your videos about the Canon 5D yet, but I intend to watch them all several times. What is your opinion on manual lenses, m42 for this camera? Would they work with the 5d?
I have tried many M42 lenses on the 5D with an adaptor that has a focus confirm chip. Just needs the release without lens option enabled. Some work better than others or work better at smaller apertures. The images generally need post processing. Much trial and error in my limited experience so far but it is definitely possible
Regarding third-party lenses, I’ve been loving the Sigma 50mm Art on this camera. I actually need to stop it down by a stop because I came from the Nifty Fifty and there’s a marked difference in exposure. But I love that. Except I haven’t perhaps looked to see if the focus hits correctly. I’m just generally bad with focus…
you may well have got lucky and have one that focuses on your camera the sigma lenses are very good though. just to add sounds like you are doing just fine with focus!
I've just bought a 5D classic, and apart from a couple of minor scratches, it looks like it's never been used. I'm excited to start using it. The camera is on firmware 1.1.0. Would you recommend installing the latest version, and do you happen to know where a good place to download it is? Thanks.
When I was a teen in the 2000's I had a 10D with a few decent lenses. I got lots of good shots in focus and even took pictures of myself with a tripod (how??). When I got back into photography I re-started on a t8i and when I got the 5D mark II, I struggled so bad I thought there was something wrong with the camera and almost sent it back!! Spoiler alert: the problem was me. We really are spoiled with modern technology.
Wow the usb battery charger was neat. As for lenses I've had little to no issues with the 35/1.4, 50/1.2 apart from the inherent issue of working with such a shallow DOF, which makes it (near) impossible to focus recompose wide open, but you wouldn't be able to do that on any other camera. What has disappointed me though is that it's also near impossible to manually focus these lenses wide open (I even got the matt focus screen) . It's as if the focusing screen is fooling your eye (and the cameras focusing sensor has no clue so you can't listen to that) and wants you to focus slightly in front. Pretty disheartening as manually focusing the 5d is much more joyous than using the AF due to hunting and so on; also it gives you that sense of control, and you can become pretty quick at it as well. Is there a qualitative difference to AF over MF, as in: does one shift the inner elements more radically than the other? I find AF creates more movement inside the lens and manages to catch a fuller focus than the MF - even if I manage to hit it. Any ideas?
I think with wide aperture lenses you are always going to be better off with AF on anything that can move at all. I think the fuller focus you describe is simply its more accurate than manual focus.
Great content as per.. you can’t compare the 5D with new cameras other than they take pictures. If you drive a vintage car you wouldn’t complain about not having power steering.. you’d just drive it!! Also agree that the 5D is great to learn on.. everything you said is bang on.. I would like to know your thoughts on exposing to the right? … keep going mate your work is class
Thanks John! I should have spoken about exposing to the right, I think i will make a video just about that though so i can have more time to show some examples maybe. But yes, expose to the right as far as possible under most circumstances helps as the dynamic range on the 5d is loaded in the highlights more.
Thanks for these tricks and tips for the 5dc. One thing is to check the exposure on the back screen, another thing is to check, whether the shot is in focus. You cannot really tell on the LCD screen of the 5dc. This is why I am looking at a 6d which seems to have a better screen and WIFI. I know, you have recently compared both cameras. Do still have a 6d and use it on a regular basis?
I dont have the 6D any more, i will probably get one again the future. I highly recommend the 6D and regret selling it. With checking focus on the 5d classic you should set your sharpening to max in your picture profile it helps to see when you zoom in but also you just need to work out over time which lenses are reliable with it.
@@MartinCastein thanks for your swift response. Much appreciated. Following your recommendation, I bought a fairly used copy of the 17-40, 4.0 lens and have been enjoying it so far. I think the focus works good enough with this lens. The seller had put a Skylight filter on the lens for protection, until I found out that this kind of filter actually give the image a certain tint. I picked up a used 30d, which gives the 17-40 focal length so to speak...
This was a real help Martin! Bought my classic a few weeks ago and enjoying it but having trouble getting the photos onto the computer! The compact flash card reader will not read it and have bought a cable but it’s very touch and go. Should it be this hard? Which reader would you recommend or which cable please? It’s spoiling the use of the camera. Should Raw pictures take longer/ be more difficult to transfer? Help?? Thanks again!
Your videos gave me the confidence to start using the 5D classic for model shoots. Regarding exposure, do you have any preference for a particular metering mode and do you recommend “exposing to the right” with this sensor? Your histogram tip saved me from worrying about checking the screen (except when a model asked to look lol)
I personally use evaluative metering. You can, once you get used to it, guess how much you need to over or under expose by. I definitely recommend exposing to the right, should probably have included that in this video, duh, but yes as far to the right as you can get even to the point of having small amount of blinking highlights really.
I have a question: the 5D has great colours and rendering, but why does that matter if someone shoots raw, lets Lightroom or ACR (for instance) interpret the data their own way, then edit and tweak the colours anyway?Surely this makes the colour and rendering moot? What am I missing? I mainly shoot JPEG btw. I do shoot raw on occasion, but only in specific circumstances.
I'm having an interesting issue on my 5D classic. I'm using some older BP-511 batteries ... but what i could recognize is that using that battery in grip of my 5D classic it runs out of power very quickly. Comparing same (old) battery in grip on my EOS 50D it last nearly forever and even on my EOS 10D it lasts much longer comparing to my 5D classic. I've cleaned all contacts to ensure there is no loss of contact on grip-pins. Is there anything wrong with my 5D power-management ? ... or is there a problem with my ORIGINAL Canon BP-E4 grip I'm using ?
@@MartinCastein Thank you for replying. I'm looking for general purpose zoom lens for my 5d classic, but on a tight budget. I found some reviews later for that lens after I left you my comment. I guess i'll be avoiding it.
you said the 5d class has the best colours & d600 best tonal gradations. ok. what is your take on the leica m8 m8 cameras in terms of looks, images, monochrome digital noise, tonal gradations in black & white & colour & how well they give a ‘filmesc’ or classic look.
Well ive not found battery life to be all that great, youll want a a few batteries if you want to shoot a wedding for example, i found the hahnel batteries to be pretty good and a reasonable price but you should try to replicate the shooting style you will do in the same volume and length as the even you want to photograph because you can run out of battery life quicker than you might think.
Hello! Has anyone tried the EF 35mm f1.4 L mk i with the 5D Classic? Does the autofocus (at least centre focus) work decently well? (relative to some of the other lenses that Martin lists as working well eg 50mm1.8 40mm2.8, 24-70, 70-200 or not well eg 50mm1.2, 85mm1.2, 50mm1.4). Thanks!
Update! I received my 5D (mpb). Before getting to the negatives (there are a few, and you mention them) let's talk about the positives: (1) It's 200 quid !!! It takes images your £1,000 Smartphone can only dream of. Actual bokeh, not that dreadful software bokeh that Smartphones generate. (2) That sensor. 13Mp of beautiful pixels. OK you can't crop too much but you can crop fine. Just get the shot right in the first place. (3) That shutter sound. OMG ... it makes you want to take photos just to hear that shutter (I swear there's a 35mm film motor-drive in there). (4) The purity of it. It doesn't have many options but it has enough. I have an EOS 500 35mm film camera. It was one of Canon's final rolls of the 35mm dice and has a lot of tech for a film camera. The 5D is soooo much better. If you think film is good ... you really need to try a 5D. (5) The handling. I prefer my 6D handling but the simplicity of the 5D makes up for that. It puts me in more of a point & shoot frame of mind. I've started using it as my daily carry, with a 40mm f/2.8. I shoot Monochrome jpegs + RAW. I love the images and rarely resort to editing RAW files. I don't know why, at £200, everyone doesn't buy one. Buy one now before the Hipsters suddenly jump on it. Buy one as an office ornament. It's a bona fide historical photographical classic.
Hey! Im so happy you got a 5d classic, well done! im glad you like it too. Its a great camera and the 40mm is the perfect lens to go with it. The 5d classic does better with canons best glass really and id put the 40mm 2.8 in that category. I know the camera has some downsides too but its and old camera so you have to consider that. I hope you enjoy using it!
Canon have what they call cross hair AF sensors in lenses and some more than others. Canon’s af was always rubbish for the cameras in question outside of the centre point. But film cameras never really went much beyond centre points. As you point out, to gain function or ease of use you sacrifice image rendering & colours. I dare anyone to use a Contax iia & then find something to complain about on the 5dmk i.
My 5D shows the pictures ALLWAYS too bright on the screen. You think they are well exposed, but they are too dark. That's why I always need to check the histogram. Is there a way to get the JPGs OOC sharper? The raw has a nice sharp image, nothing to complain about, but the JPG is a little softer. Sometimes too soft for faces.
@@MartinCastein But I want to use the JPG OOC. F.E. at a family gathering. I usually edit my photos in Lightroom but for this I don't need, or better, I don't want to. The OOC JPG looks pretty good and I like the colors. But with the unsharpness, it's not usuable for me
@@MartinCastein I use the standard profile. Even if I up the sharpness from 4 to 7, it's noticeably softer. Not as dramatic as with standard 4 but still not perfect. I use the Yongnuo 35mm f2 which is not the sharpest anyway but it has enough sharpness for my taste and for portraits. For text it is too soft. The Canon equivalent is definitely sharper. Maybe with the increased sharpness from that lens the standard profile might work. Time will tell. ;) Looking forward to your next Canon 5D Classic video. 💪🏻
I have learned so much from all your 5D videos. All great points! I have been shooting with it for about a year and a half. I love my 5D. I have used it for just about everything (portraits, events, sports, landscapes). It does have limitations but a great 1st camera to learn! All the points you described is how I use the camera. Can’t wait for the next 5d video!
Thanks Clay, glad you are enjoying the videos will have some soon out and about with me shooting with it.
Excellent video, the lens that I have glued to my 5D is the 40mm 2.8 which is awesome and highly recommended, value for money is unbeatable. Along with the 6D I just bought, also got the 28mm f1.8, can't wait to receive them 👍🏼
Thanks Ricardo, I think youll be happy with that setup for sure!
28 1.8 is a magic lens with the 5D classic. I have Been so amazed by this combo. I had bought the 2.8 version, but the 1.8 version has unbelievable Color in combo with the 5d classic
Great vid! My daughter wanted to start photography. when i started it was film!! SO i got her the 5D - the guy at the shop was like get a cheap "new" one and i said NO!! anyone can take a pic with a mobile phone even BUT the 5D with it's rich colour and "back to basics" whether you like it or not will teach her. i did a quick crash course in manual mode, that's what she shoots on - using speed, aperture and ISO - she is actually, in 2 days, coming out with some pretty good pics. Now i am trying to get her to pay attention to the histogram and the light meter through the view finder. oh and i picked up the 5D that was MINT and the count, when we started was 5100 shots. yeah it could have been zero'd but this was like it was in a bag in a cupboard and hardly ever used.
That’s great to hear!
I have a 5D and I often use it with a Nikkor 28mm f2.8 Ais. The colours are stunning!
Excellent! thanks for sharing Ian.
i agree nikkor lenses capture great color on canon sensors
Any video about 5D Classic deserves thumb up and a comment! *My two cents:* install Magic Lantern and set screen saturation to "high" (not "very high") it makes colours pretty close to real (unlike the original pale look). There are more advantages ML adds: fast zoom on playback, intervalometer, workaround to get 2sec timer without locking the mirror, etc. Moreover, I was lucky to find and installed EE-D focusing screen with grid on it. Helps enormously with horizon and composition. There's also another one (EE-S) for fast lenses, showing smaller DoF (kit EE-A only shows about f/2.8 DoF in viewfinder), which makes it easier and joyful for manual focusing.
I started to get a bit bored with photography after buying my 5D Mark IV. But my interest has been rekindled again since buying one of these classics a week ago. Thanks for making your videos!
Thants good to hear Matthew glad it has worked out for you!
Great videos about the Canon 5D Classic.... I was wondering... Could you make a video as a buying guide for the Canon 5D Classic... what should we look for? What possible problems can we find? what should we ask the seller? What possible hidden defects can we find? Etc. Thank you very much in advance
Here's something I've done with almost all of my digital EF cameras: get a different focus screen than the default that has split-image focusing where the center AF point is. With that, you can easily and precisely adjust any back- or front-focus issues with fast primes, depending on how accurate your actual eye sight is. I wear strong prescription glasses and I have issues focusing the 50mm f1.2 L on any of my EF cameras with a split-image focus screen. It's not as easy, elegant and fast as using a rangefinder patch, but it can be as precise.
I also use a chipped adapter to mount Olympus OM lenses on my EF cameras, I manually focus them using the split-image screen and I get focus confirmation on the center point when manually nailing focus. The longer Olympus OM lenses with fast apertures make EXCELLENT portrait lenses on the 5D.
Where you get a split focus screen for the 5D C ?
Thanks. I like your no nonsense, pragmatic, down-to-earth and un-snobbish approach. It's helpful to me as a novice. I've enjoyed watching quite a few of your videos, especially about the Canon 5D.
Thank you, im glad its all useful for you, thanks for the super thanks!!!
As someone who has mostly shot medium format film with occasional forays into 4x5 over the past 40 years, and with cameras from the 70s and earlier, I'm always amazed at the features on the newest cameras. I think it's the Sony A7RIV that even has "Insect eye focusing". Wow!
My "beginner" T3i was the only digital camera I've had until now, though it served me very well once I pitched its awful kit lens, and I even did some product photography with it that was quite successful. I'm now playing with a 5D Classic and loving it so far. I tend to like things that focus on the _essence_ of what the thing is supposed to be, and for that the 5D Classic is in the same category as my RB67 and 500C, IMHO.
Your videos were instrumental in getting me to pull the trigger on the 5D, so thank you! Sent you a coffee. 🙂
Thanks so much glad you are enjoying your 5d! And thank you for the coffee!
I have other newer and more expensive full frames from Nikon and Sony, however for some reason the old 5D’s are just so rewarding to photograph with, and I always want to bring.
I think keep them all, the newer cameras have obvious advantages but the older bodies have their benefits too!
I agree about the noise in the photos. which is especially noticeable in modern cameras with a small sensor. In "not noisy" photos at high ISOs, especially, a clear "watercolor" effect appears, with the contours of details outlined. This can be clearly seen when magnified. Moreover, such functions come by default in a raw file.
I was able to find original batteries that have been in storage for ten or more years. Surprisingly, they actually kept the capacity.
They do keep their charge well! You did well to find them.
Just found your channel and I have to say you are great breath of fresh air with your honest views on camera gear and what you do and don't need. I have a 5D classic and a 60D and 70D (70D has a focus issue where it says focused but misses quiet often) I have shot weddings with these bodies for friends and a couple of paid weddings. But watching your channel im looking to get a 6D and a 24-105 F4 L to go with my 70-200 F4 L and the nifty fifty. But again many thanks for your fantastic work, looking forward to more content.
Thanks Jon!
Ten years ago I started on the 650D, which at the time was incredible for the articulating touch screen and from that I began very spoilt for the tech. Last year I upgraded to the 90D and was even more spoilt for all the bells and whistles
Then I bought a 6D which took me back a bit and after I got used to it I am really enjoying the process of less distraction and more photo. It turns out the touch screen, while "easy", is very rarely a deal breaker in the ability to take a photo. It never crossed my mind before that I could take a photo without it since that it what I started with.
Then I found a deal on a 5DsR and after I started using the two full frame cameras together, I gave the 90D to my girlfriend to replace her 70D and I haven't looked back.
The only time I really miss the touch screen is for tripod photos to zoom in and move around to check focus and details, but I use the 6D for that and the smartphone app.
Very long story to get to the end point, thank you for the detailed talk about noise and the benefits on it. I was a little disappointed by the 5DsR in non-ideal conditions with the noise it produces in darks, but now I am reconsidering it and realising that perhaps the 5DsR is instead simply NOT removing it for me in camera as opposed to what I was used to in the 90D. I think I am starting to appreciate having the choice of what to do with the noise.
Thats good Dave, noise isnt an issue unless it really degrades the picture. People are far too concerned with it in a way that doesnt help their photography. Enjoy your 5dsr! I had the 5ds and it doesnt have much in the way of built in noise reduction on the RAW files it is very very sharp and detailed even when there is noise.
I was photographing an outside event at a City Park last Sunday. It was a very bright, unusually sunny day, and I couldn't review the images on the rear screen of my 6D's (I use two). But I could see the histograms. I didn't overexpose a single image and underexposed very few. So, I didn't know exactly which of my s😮hots had been successful - but I was confident that enough of them would work out. I didn't even think about substituting my 5D for one of the 6D's. But it would have worked well. Not being able to see either screen would have leveled the playing field with all that glare from the bright sun that is low in the sky this late in the year.
Thanks Martain. Going to take my 5D out tomorrow in Tokyo with some of that fine advice, especially the words of wisdom at the end.
ohhhh sounds good!
Finally pulled the trigger on getting one and just put in an order. Now I have to decide on a lens. Leaning towards 24-105 F4, as a walkaround lens (a lot of landscape etc). I tend to fall back on those kinds of lenses I notice (I have recently also purchased the Pentax K10D, Nikon D200, Konica Minolta 5D, Olympus E-500, all with CCD sensors. (Plus Sigma SD14). The 5D will be my first old cmos camera, but since everyone says it is as close to CCD you get with CMOS, I wanted to try it...
How's it going with the Pentax? Was my first camera and upgraded to the 6D but it's still old reliable bulletproof for me.
Recent new subscriber. Love your content Martin. You have a great down to earth style. I've been an Olympus and Nikon shooter until now but am waiting for a new old 5D with a 50mm 1.8 to be delivered. Can't wait to start out on my 5D. learning.
Thanks for subscribing! there will be some videos with me shooting with it soon enough too.
In my experience, the “high iso sweet spot” of the 5D is 1250, just one step lower than the maximum 1600 (without using extended range). from 50 to 1250 any exposure and iso combination is Ok. The real downside of the 5D for me is the lack of sensor cleaning nor AF micro adjustment. I had 9mm of back focus using the 50 f 1.8 STM which I corrected by trimming the inner screws near the shutter, but that is not the best solution because it will affect any other lenses slightly. Its ok by me because I use the 50 all the time and i still getting decent shots with the 70-300 f 4-5.6 IS USM but I don’t recommend doing it unless you know what you’re doing. I also want to mention that your 5D vs 6D is very useful for the 5D lovers who would like to update their classics. Cheers from Argentina.
thank you for sharing this!
My 5D the grain at any ISO is very pleasing. I like it. Also, even if I use center point I do have to sometimes take more than one shot to get eyes in focus. Other than that, it produces beautiful detail images.
''I am the Photographer'' - Love it Martin.
I agree with you, the tech is amazing; and welcome, but too many young 'photographers' are being led up the technological garden path...at considerable cost, and that not only financial.
I think it was inevitable really. Im going to try and teach more on my channel as well later to try and give something to the photography community.
I love my classic, I got back into photography after a big break from the Canon AE Program, and bought a 70D. I found it made me lazy and I was losing some skills. The 5D took me back somewhat to those AE days. Agree with you about the focus points. I always use the central point to focus and recompose, much more reliable. One lens that I love with the classic, is the 85mm f1.8. Tried the L lens, but the focussing is too slow, the f1.8 works superbly.
I just picked one of these up after watching some of your vids. At 400 ISO and above, there is some noise but I generally run my RAW files through DXO RAW before I bring them into ACR for processing. The DXO preprocessing does a phenomenal job of smoothing out the noise and actually adding more contrast and detail into the images from my eye. A huge improvement to the files. I like them both ways though depending on the final look I’m trying to achieve with the subject matter. For monochrome images, I think the digital noise renders quite well and has a nice filmic look, which is really why I purchased it to begin with.
Hi Tim, one thing id say is worry less about noise, youtube is teaching everyone its bad, unless its damaging the picture I would not worry about it, the only times i worry with high iso is if the camera is doing in camera noise reduction on the raw file reducing detail or you want to increase dynamic range in editing but not have the colour noise that can come with that. There are so many beautiful but grainy photos.
Always had a soft spot for the 5D to the point I can't stop picking up good copies when they turn up. Great advice Martin.
Thats a good idea John, they are always around but i should pick up another one or two, i do wonder if there will come a point where they are hard to get hold of. thanks for watching!
Damn it!!!! I just bought (again) a 5D Classic. (MPB £200). I owned one 7 years ago but found myself reaching for my 6D all the time. However I've spent the last 7 years wishing I hadn't sold it.
My 40mm f/2.8 lived on it (What a superb bargain this lens is). I'm awaiting delivery and can't wait to hear that shutter and see those colours again.
I traded my 1D mk2N against it. Another real classic I think, but I never realised it wasn't full-frame (Doh .. do your research), and 8Mp was never enough to justify carrying that tank around.
I just can't bear seeing these fabulous cameras, for around 200 quid, going unowned.
Very informative ... I use Nikon but this is one camera I will buy sooner or later with the 40mm pancake. Thank you and God bless you 💐💐💐
I have a pair of 5D bodies, one for colour, the other converted for infrared. Regarding focus, I don’t have any Canon auto focus lenses, so I use a hot shoe mounted optical rangefinder from the 1950’s - works for me. I too, have a set of Hahnel batteries - very good. I also have the battery grip along with two AA battery trays fitted with rechargeable Eneloop batteries - works well, and future proof. I alway keep a lookout for 5D bodies in mint condition, they are out there. A great video about a great camera, and oh yes, the noise at high ISO is very attractive in B&W.
Thanks for this I might look at the grip that takes aa batteries as well at some point!
All excellent points! Especially the focus and recompose, and "noise". Well said!! Your advice applies to all cameras. I have a 250D with the same issues. Looking for a 5d2 to compliment it!
Looking forward to your above mentioned video "working with image grain to keep smoother gradations and 3d look" that will be extremely helpful. Thank you so much. You have been a God send.
I do often wonder if people will watch a video like that but i think i should make it as i feel these days this kind of knowledge is being lost.
Another thing about wanting the best equipment is what do you want to do with it, and what to you expect to achieve. The 5d is fantastic but you have to use one to know it's limitations but also it's strengths, they are quite inexpensive now, so don't think spending tons of money on the next best thing will make you a better photographer, using older equipment sometimes makes you better by making you use your brain to make the equipment you have work for you. I'm not a great or technical type of photographer but watching this I realised I am doing some things right, I use the techniques you mention and didn't even know it. Another thing is stop chasing the rainbow because whatever you buy will be out of date quicker than you think, it's the way camera makers work.
100%
Great tip of the focus and recompose, I’ve done that for years and it’s nice to hear it coming from you. I was wondering on your recommendations for an early Canon 1-Ds mkii. I got it as a beginning studio camera and it has just given me stellar results every time I use it. I’d love to see it in your videos. Keep the great videos coming, and cheers from Texas!
Hi Allen! thanks for that and thank you from London, just across the pond from you :D
Spot on
Awesome
I had a 5d1 sold it got 5d2
Went back to the 5d1
Colors was the magic
Both are excellent the 5d 1 has the best colour though
I use the 5D indoors with ttl flash. 1600 and even 3200 ISO is not a problem for the most part. People need to understand that noise isnt caused by just high ISO. Noise is caused low signal:noise ratio & underexposure.
absolutely, good point, length of exposure affects noise etc good point
As usual great information. As for third party glass, you are correct, I have a Sigma 50mm that works well on some Canon bodies and not others, focus is accurate on one DSLR body and off on another. I have seen this on a Sigma zoom as well, it needed a lot of micro adjustments on the body I used it on, very annoying. So, moral of the story I guess is be careful and maybe go manual lenses here and there, depending if going third party. Although, one would think, that mirrorless bodies might not have as much of a likelihood of a focus issue, at least for single non-tracking shots? Maybe?
Yes that screen sucks and I have an early one, I hear they did a slight upgrade on later serial numbers? Basically useful mostly for histogram and the blinkies as you say. I am pondering some m42 ideas, which may bring more pain along with possibilities, worse case I have other bodies with live view. Besides, I find landscapes pretty much don't move, except maybe in California.
Good information all along. Best wishes, keep up the good work. God bless!
Mirrorless is much better for focus in general, thats is real benefit. There seems to have been a slight change to some of the 5d bodies on the later ones but im not sure how much of a difference that made. would be interested to see what m42 options you are looking at. Thanks again John!
@@MartinCastein As for m42 lenses I am still very much up in the air for specific lenses per se, however I will definitely be looking for a 50mm and probably something wider as well. I am still researching things. They made some EF mount Zeiss stuff as I recall but I also recall they may be pricey, although Zeiss has a nice look.
Great video. You mention the importance of reading your histogram. Have you done a video on that?
not yet, would that help?
@@MartinCastein I’d find that very useful. You have a great way of cutting through the jargon.
im on it.
Yes please!
28mm f/1.8 USM focuses great on my 5D classic and 5Dmkii
Isn't the 28mm for crop sensor cameras? If that's so, how well does it fare on a FF body?
Hi Nick thanks for mentioning that, i had wondered if that lens would work well and its not surprising that it does, thanks for sharing that
@@AbbasBinYounas the 28mm is an EF lens so it works great on both crop sensor and FF
@@campbells0ups oh ok, my bad; I got it mixed up with the 24mm f2.8 pancake lens... I think that's the EF-S one. Thanks for the correction.
I have a 28mm 2.8 is. I’ll have to check that combo out. Nice small lens
Theirs a lot of talk about the importance of learning to read histograms, the only problem is how do you learn to read it? Maybe a short video dedicated to this with examples using a canon 5d would be really useful, I say the 5d only because that’s my main camera.
Ok Ben I’m on it I will make this.
The remark about the histogram is actually universal, I think.
Modern displays are much better in rendering the images on the card, but we should always know that even then they only show us the jpeg image, never the raw file. Also the display will never have the quality of a dedicated and calibrated monitor that can show us a wide gamut.
Aside from that, the histogram always shows what is captured and is the most reliable tool on any digital camera.
I also think that the display of my Canon 5D (classic) is small and off colour compared to the one on my D750, but in both cases I only rely on the histogram for moving on to the next shot(s). Even when the display of the D750 is roughly comparable to my calibrated monitor.
I always had the impression that everyone using a digital camera would read the histogram, but apparently I'm wrong. That's surprisingly because coming from analog photography I would rely on my wonderful Sekonic light meter to give me the perfectly exposed slides. A histogram is so much more convenient and reliable than any light meter because the histogram on a camera tells us exactly what is captured, while any external light meter is not that precisely matched to the camera.
Regarding the focusing I can confirm that the 17-40 f/4L works flawless and gives magnificent images on the 5D.
I have mentioned before that I bought the 5D mainly because the flange distance allows me to use old and very old lenses.
These are all manual focus and in that regard I can say that using the focusing screen works great and very precise. I have a magnifier for the Canon that makes focusing easier, but it also restricts the viewfinder's field, especially with glasses on. Therefor I do not use it often.
About noise, I agree one hundred percent with you. A grainy image does look sharper also because of the noise in it. In the analog days (should I name it that?) we used to apply a noise mask to unsharp images to make them appear sharper.
Also, I have waited to buy my first digital camera until those who produce raw images became affordable for me because I did absolutely not like the jpegs. Grass was a blob of green, instead of sprites and I disliked it so much. It's also the problem with cellphones these days.
One thing also, is what I came to see is about printing. I had to print a noisy, small photo and after I removed the noise and sharpened it up a little, I printed it and could clearly see posterising artifacts. What you describe that noise helps to smoothen out the transitions, is what I thought at that moment and applied noise to the photo, which lead to a very good print with excellent gradation.
The Canon 5D is indeed a camera that makes a photographer's heart beat. To me it reminds me a lot of the analog photography and that is a real pleasure for this hobby to me. Having the benefit of digital, makes it a lot more cheaper too.
Regarding the battery, I think there is nothing to complain about. Taking photos a whole day, it never let me down once. Also it once happened that I put the camera on the shelf without switching it off and a week later I noticed my mistake but did not have to recharge.
Martin moves things on - have learnt a lot…!
Hi Don! thanks!
The 24 to 70 is expensive investment for an amateur. What about the 28 to 135 or a suggestion for two lenses set that will offer wide range
I know a couple of photographers that have been with the 28-135, i havent used it myself though. you could like at primes as well such as 40 and 85 maybe.
“A setting for the back screen to just display the histogram”. I’ve been thinking that for years on all my cameras, that would be brilliant!!!!
Im not alone then!
I like to torture myself and using manual lense on 5dc. 😂
Hard to nail focus but i enjoy shooting zeiss 50 1.4 with 5dc so much when it gives result , its so efing wonderful.
I came across your channel just yesterday and now I have watched almost all your videos. I find them very insightful. I started my photographic journey with Canon 7D (mark I). Also kind of classic, isn't it ? Are you planning to make videos on this camera ? That would be really awesome. Greetings !
Wow thank you, im glad you are finding them useful thats really nice to hear. Ive heard very good things about the 7d ive never used one though, sorry its unlikely that I will ever make a video about it because of that im afraid.
I'm so glad I came across your channel. I've owned a Canon 5d for a while now, but I haven't used it that much or gotten to know it. I am very grateful for your advice and suggestions on how to use this camera and in what way. I haven't watched all of your videos about the Canon 5D yet, but I intend to watch them all several times. What is your opinion on manual lenses, m42 for this camera? Would they work with the 5d?
I dont have experience with the m42 lenses really im afraid, i hope you find my other 5D classic videos useful though!
I have tried many M42 lenses on the 5D with an adaptor that has a focus confirm chip. Just needs the release without lens option enabled. Some work better than others or work better at smaller apertures. The images generally need post processing. Much trial and error in my limited experience so far but it is definitely possible
Regarding third-party lenses, I’ve been loving the Sigma 50mm Art on this camera. I actually need to stop it down by a stop because I came from the Nifty Fifty and there’s a marked difference in exposure. But I love that.
Except I haven’t perhaps looked to see if the focus hits correctly. I’m just generally bad with focus…
you may well have got lucky and have one that focuses on your camera the sigma lenses are very good though. just to add sounds like you are doing just fine with focus!
I've just bought a 5D classic, and apart from a couple of minor scratches, it looks like it's never been used. I'm excited to start using it. The camera is on firmware 1.1.0. Would you recommend installing the latest version, and do you happen to know where a good place to download it is? Thanks.
When I was a teen in the 2000's I had a 10D with a few decent lenses. I got lots of good shots in focus and even took pictures of myself with a tripod (how??).
When I got back into photography I re-started on a t8i and when I got the 5D mark II, I struggled so bad I thought there was something wrong with the camera and almost sent it back!! Spoiler alert: the problem was me. We really are spoiled with modern technology.
Wow the usb battery charger was neat. As for lenses I've had little to no issues with the 35/1.4, 50/1.2 apart from the inherent issue of working with such a shallow DOF, which makes it (near) impossible to focus recompose wide open, but you wouldn't be able to do that on any other camera. What has disappointed me though is that it's also near impossible to manually focus these lenses wide open (I even got the matt focus screen) . It's as if the focusing screen is fooling your eye (and the cameras focusing sensor has no clue so you can't listen to that) and wants you to focus slightly in front. Pretty disheartening as manually focusing the 5d is much more joyous than using the AF due to hunting and so on; also it gives you that sense of control, and you can become pretty quick at it as well.
Is there a qualitative difference to AF over MF, as in: does one shift the inner elements more radically than the other? I find AF creates more movement inside the lens and manages to catch a fuller focus than the MF - even if I manage to hit it. Any ideas?
I think with wide aperture lenses you are always going to be better off with AF on anything that can move at all. I think the fuller focus you describe is simply its more accurate than manual focus.
Hi iso is very good in 5D classic if you shot in raw
Great content as per.. you can’t compare the 5D with new cameras other than they take pictures. If you drive a vintage car you wouldn’t complain about not having power steering.. you’d just drive it!! Also agree that the 5D is great to learn on.. everything you said is bang on.. I would like to know your thoughts on exposing to the right? … keep going mate your work is class
Thanks John! I should have spoken about exposing to the right, I think i will make a video just about that though so i can have more time to show some examples maybe. But yes, expose to the right as far as possible under most circumstances helps as the dynamic range on the 5d is loaded in the highlights more.
Small add on to exposing to the right.. would like to know how you actually do it as a technique in the field . Cheers
@@johnstaples1606 I have this written down in my list of videos to make John so wont be too long :)
Hi Martin, I bought a used 5D classic and the FW is Ver 1.1.0. Where can I get a genuine Ver 1.1.1 to upgrade? Canon site no longer has them. Regards
Thanks for these tricks and tips for the 5dc. One thing is to check the exposure on the back screen, another thing is to check, whether the shot is in focus. You cannot really tell on the LCD screen of the 5dc. This is why I am looking at a 6d which seems to have a better screen and WIFI. I know, you have recently compared both cameras. Do still have a 6d and use it on a regular basis?
I dont have the 6D any more, i will probably get one again the future. I highly recommend the 6D and regret selling it. With checking focus on the 5d classic you should set your sharpening to max in your picture profile it helps to see when you zoom in but also you just need to work out over time which lenses are reliable with it.
@@MartinCastein thanks for your swift response. Much appreciated. Following your recommendation, I bought a fairly used copy of the 17-40, 4.0 lens and have been enjoying it so far. I think the focus works good enough with this lens. The seller had put a Skylight filter on the lens for protection, until I found out that this kind of filter actually give the image a certain tint. I picked up a used 30d, which gives the 17-40 focal length so to speak...
30d is a good camera and extremely good value for money. 6d is obviously much more modern too
This was a real help Martin! Bought my classic a few weeks ago and enjoying it but having trouble getting the photos onto the computer! The compact flash card reader will not read it and have bought a cable but it’s very touch and go. Should it be this hard? Which reader would you recommend or which cable please? It’s spoiling the use of the camera. Should Raw pictures take longer/ be more difficult to transfer? Help?? Thanks again!
Hi Pamela, should be straight forward, it seems the card reader is faulty so I’d get the sandisk one or any branded one that reads cf cards.
@@MartinCastein thanks so much…will do! 👍
Your videos gave me the confidence to start using the 5D classic for model shoots. Regarding exposure, do you have any preference for a particular metering mode and do you recommend “exposing to the right” with this sensor? Your histogram tip saved me from worrying about checking the screen (except when a model asked to look lol)
I personally use evaluative metering. You can, once you get used to it, guess how much you need to over or under expose by. I definitely recommend exposing to the right, should probably have included that in this video, duh, but yes as far to the right as you can get even to the point of having small amount of blinking highlights really.
@@MartinCastein thank you so much! I will incorporate these pointers!
Great Master...
I have a question: the 5D has great colours and rendering, but why does that matter if someone shoots raw, lets Lightroom or ACR (for instance) interpret the data their own way, then edit and tweak the colours anyway?Surely this makes the colour and rendering moot? What am I missing?
I mainly shoot JPEG btw. I do shoot raw on occasion, but only in specific circumstances.
I'm having an interesting issue on my 5D classic.
I'm using some older BP-511 batteries ... but what i could recognize is that using that battery in grip of my 5D classic it runs out of power very quickly.
Comparing same (old) battery in grip on my EOS 50D it last nearly forever and even on my EOS 10D it lasts much longer comparing to my 5D classic.
I've cleaned all contacts to ensure there is no loss of contact on grip-pins.
Is there anything wrong with my 5D power-management ? ... or is there a problem with my ORIGINAL Canon BP-E4 grip I'm using ?
I found a Canon EF 35-105mm USM Ultrasonic for 40e. I'm not sure if I should go for it. Please help.
what are you photographing?
that lens doesnt have a particularly good reputation.
@@MartinCastein Thank you for replying. I'm looking for general purpose zoom lens for my 5d classic, but on a tight budget. I found some reviews later for that lens after I left you my comment. I guess i'll be avoiding it.
If I were you I’d save for a 24-105 f4 or get a 50mm 1.8 and get on with that
@@MartinCastein that sounds good, especially the 24-105. Keep up the great work, your channel is my go to 5d classic content
Thank you
You're welcome
you said the 5d class has the best colours & d600 best tonal gradations. ok. what is your take on the leica m8 m8 cameras in terms of looks, images, monochrome digital noise, tonal gradations in black & white & colour & how well they give a ‘filmesc’ or classic look.
I’ve never used one so can’t comment I’m afraid. I try to only talk about things I’ve used.
3:28 My copy of the 50mm f1.2 L back focuses on my 5D copy. Not usable wide open. Confirmed.
can you share the battery specs? i recently bought 2000mAh battery and have not yet tested it on actual event
Well ive not found battery life to be all that great, youll want a a few batteries if you want to shoot a wedding for example, i found the hahnel batteries to be pretty good and a reasonable price but you should try to replicate the shooting style you will do in the same volume and length as the even you want to photograph because you can run out of battery life quicker than you might think.
Hello! Has anyone tried the EF 35mm f1.4 L mk i with the 5D Classic? Does the autofocus (at least centre focus) work decently well? (relative to some of the other lenses that Martin lists as working well eg 50mm1.8 40mm2.8, 24-70, 70-200 or not well eg 50mm1.2, 85mm1.2, 50mm1.4). Thanks!
Update! I received my 5D (mpb). Before getting to the negatives (there are a few, and you mention them) let's talk about the positives:
(1) It's 200 quid !!! It takes images your £1,000 Smartphone can only dream of. Actual bokeh, not that dreadful software bokeh that Smartphones generate.
(2) That sensor. 13Mp of beautiful pixels. OK you can't crop too much but you can crop fine. Just get the shot right in the first place.
(3) That shutter sound. OMG ... it makes you want to take photos just to hear that shutter (I swear there's a 35mm film motor-drive in there).
(4) The purity of it. It doesn't have many options but it has enough. I have an EOS 500 35mm film camera. It was one of Canon's final rolls of the 35mm dice and has a lot of tech for a film camera. The 5D is soooo much better. If you think film is good ... you really need to try a 5D.
(5) The handling. I prefer my 6D handling but the simplicity of the 5D makes up for that. It puts me in more of a point & shoot frame of mind.
I've started using it as my daily carry, with a 40mm f/2.8. I shoot Monochrome jpegs + RAW. I love the images and rarely resort to editing RAW files.
I don't know why, at £200, everyone doesn't buy one. Buy one now before the Hipsters suddenly jump on it. Buy one as an office ornament. It's a bona fide historical photographical classic.
Hey! Im so happy you got a 5d classic, well done! im glad you like it too. Its a great camera and the 40mm is the perfect lens to go with it. The 5d classic does better with canons best glass really and id put the 40mm 2.8 in that category. I know the camera has some downsides too but its and old camera so you have to consider that. I hope you enjoy using it!
Canon have what they call cross hair AF sensors in lenses and some more than others. Canon’s af was always rubbish for the cameras in question outside of the centre point. But film cameras never really went much beyond centre points. As you point out, to gain function or ease of use you sacrifice image rendering & colours. I dare anyone to use a Contax iia & then find something to complain about on the 5dmk i.
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And what's the name of those German batteries for the 5dc?
They are made by Hahnel. They are more expensive than the random brand batteries though.
My 5D shows the pictures ALLWAYS too bright on the screen. You think they are well exposed, but they are too dark. That's why I always need to check the histogram.
Is there a way to get the JPGs OOC sharper? The raw has a nice sharp image, nothing to complain about, but the JPG is a little softer. Sometimes too soft for faces.
its better to sharpen your jpegs after, the in camera sharpening isnt very nice.
@@MartinCastein But I want to use the JPG OOC. F.E. at a family gathering. I usually edit my photos in Lightroom but for this I don't need, or better, I don't want to.
The OOC JPG looks pretty good and I like the colors. But with the unsharpness, it's not usuable for me
the only way to get the jpegs sharper is to up the sharpness settings in camera.
@@MartinCastein I use the standard profile. Even if I up the sharpness from 4 to 7, it's noticeably softer. Not as dramatic as with standard 4 but still not perfect.
I use the Yongnuo 35mm f2 which is not the sharpest anyway but it has enough sharpness for my taste and for portraits. For text it is too soft. The Canon equivalent is definitely sharper. Maybe with the increased sharpness from that lens the standard profile might work. Time will tell. ;)
Looking forward to your next Canon 5D Classic video. 💪🏻
i think you should consider other lenses as well, getting sharpness straight from the lens will help, there isnt much else you can do im afraid.
Has anyone tried the Canon 50 mm 1.4 on the 5d?
I have, it’s hard going with the focus on that lens really.
I recompose from 2000 till now i never just shot and i never missed a shot
My 5d m4 has this no power issue pfft.
Use the camera enough and you won't need a histogram.