Eddie Van Halen Gets Discovered | Documentary - "Edward Van Halen: A Musician" (Part 5)
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2024
- An unofficial, fan-made documentary on the life and career of Eddie Van Halen.
This fifth part covers Van Halen starting to play in Hollywood, how Gene Simmons of Kiss initially discovered the band and was captivated by Eddie's playing, as well as how Ted Templeman and Mo Ostin of Warner Bros. Records ended up signing them.
Music by Luke Richards (under license from Audio Network)
Thanks (in no particular order) to:
Alan Berry
Daniel Sullivan
Jan Velasco Kosharek
Jas Obrecht
Dave & Dave Unchained Podcast
Adam Roach
Steve Rosen
Recommended reading:
Buy Greg Renoff's Van Halen Rising bitly.ws/3aG7h
Buy Steve Rosen's Tonechaser (3rd Edition) bitly.ws/3aG8b
Buy Elizabeth Wiley's Could This Be Magic bitly.ws/3aG7q
Buy Brad Tolinski and Chris Gill's Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen bit.ly/43nkIOj
Buy Noel Monk's Runnin' With The Devil bit.ly/3OCElxW
Buy Paul Brannigan's Eruption: The Eddie Van Halen Story bitly.ws/3aLcP
I still remember sitting in the audience the very first time I saw Van Halen live in 1980 and saying to myself “I regret that I wasn’t old enough to see legendary bands like Cream, Led Zeppelin or the Jimi Hendrix Experience but seeing this band tonight makes up for it.” And here we are now in 2024 and I feel so grateful to have seen them early on.
You should be! I'm very envious - never got to see them live, as they didn't once play a headline gig in Ireland, where I'm from. The one and only time was opening for Bon Jovi in 1995, and even that was before I was into music.
I can't even imagine how awesome it must've been to see the band in 1980. You're very lucky 🍀
@@iconsremembered I guess I took it for granted because I live in LA. At that time, there obviously was no internet, no MTV as of yet so I had never seen any live footage of Van Halen before that first show. I was amazed how Eddie made it look so effortless. I had this preconceived notion of a guy with a really serious look on his face and sweating profusely to play as he did but it was the complete opposite. Hopefully someday, Alex will release some concert footage from that period so you can see it.
Saw them 33 times i was addicted 😅@@scottrap
❤😂😮😅😢😊😊😊
70 80s n 90s was blessed to have lived and herd all the great bands was a great time ❤
My sister just passed away, and Van Halen was her favorite band.
I'm really sorry to hear that... Condolences to you and your family for your loss. I hope that the band will remind you of the good times ❤️
There will never be times like this again
No, unfortunately not. But let's be happy that it happened, and not sad that it's gone 🙂
The Mighty VAN HALEN.....greatest American Hard Rock band....period. 1978-1984 absolutely untouchable.
No arguments there 👍🏻
Tbh, half Dutch hard rock band.
They never would have succeeded in the Netherlands. @hendrikheemels8615
@@mojodojo5533 They for sure would have succeeded in our country, but very probably not worldwide. And I think they couldn't have done it without Roth and Anthony.
A juggernaut of pure raw talent...untouchable
I'm feel so lucky and honored that I was on this earth when Van Halen reigned! RIP Edward Van Halen The King of Guitarists 👑🎸🕯🌹🕊❤️
The new king of Van Halen documentaries has risen. 🤘🔥🎥
Haha, way too kind, but no way man - just a pretender to the throne 😊
Looking forward to checking out all of the Point Blank documentary later 👍🏻
I have been fortunate enough to see Van Halen live in concert eight times. The first was in 1984 and the last was in 2015.
The greatest shows I’ve ever been to, without a doubt. 😎
So envious. They never came to Ireland, where I'm from, aside from opening for Bon Jovi in 1995 😕 Had to make do with seeing DLR solo a couple of times, which was still great but not the same.
"Long way to the top if you wanna rock 'n' roll," is very applicble to Van Halen. Dave has stated countless times that their individual and collective talent just didn't fall on them like Mana from Heaven. It was tens of thousands of hours of practicing and performing. When Van Halen went on tour in 1978, they were a seasoned live band that the headliners could not match. Renoff's book "Van Halen Rising" is a great work and details just how long and drawn out the process was to fianlly record and go on tour.
Yeah Dave especially has mentioned it a lot in recent years. There was a good conversation he had with Joe Rogan where they talked about how they were so tight and battle-hardened from playing for years. The book 'Outliers' was brought up. A bit like the Beatles before they made it - so many hours and years of practice making for some serious playing and brilliant chemistry.
@@iconsremembered and yet they didn't seem jaded or filled with disdain or seeking pity, they just channeled that into their attitude music and performances
@@robhasenwinkle Exactly. Van Halen had many strengths, but one of the biggest ones was pure energy. Despite having taken years to make it, they still blew absolutely everyone away as a live group through to at least the late 80s. The athleticism and power is unreal when you look back at the clips. They could only do that by absolutely loving what they did.
@@iconsremembered yah, funny you mention athleticism, as not only are they athletes on their instruments or vocals, they actually look like fit cardio athletes, I mean not only DLR but EVH too, man. Eddie was chiseled and ripped and had a magazine ready 6 pack on their first album. He looked like he coulda been an athletic coach for a team with long hair. Al and Mikey looked more like they were on a wrestling team, or what not. But the term athleticism, to me, applies in several ways with DLR era VH.
@@robhasenwinkle Yeah I have to admit I have an unhealthy fascination with Ed's physique. It's just baffling to me. I mean, Dave did train and do a lot of stuff, so it's more understandable that he looked ripped and muscly. But Ed drank like a fish, smoked non-stop, ate crap (you hear him on the way out to McDonald's in Steve Rosen's interview with Alex!) and yet still looked like he worked out every day. I guess he did get his cardio every day on stage and the drugs and booze mean he didn't eat much. Still doesn't seem fair though 😁
This series is awesome. You cover the whole band so well and the pictures and audio is so good. Thank you whoever is responsible
You're very welcome and your comments are truly appreciated. It's a tricky balancing act with covering the whole band - of course Ed's story is also the band's story. I'm always trying to walk the line of including everyone, but still having the focus on EVH more than the others. Not always easy to pull off! Great that you comment on it though.
Excellent job. Even seeing the photos which I think we’ve all seen, you’re putting them in context along with the interviews and that’s the sweet spot. The 5 minutes feels like 15 and that’s a good thing. Man even digging up audio do Dave saying 200 songs, Alex said 300, and Michael 400…That’s going the distance.
Love comments like this - thank you! Yeah one of the tasks that takes the most time is going through all the interviews looking for anything that might be useful. Sometimes it really pays off and it's nice when you can then have little moments like the "200...300...400 songs".
Also, thanks for saying that about how the material is used, even when it isn't necessarily new. I'd love to find stuff that hasn't been seen/heard before (I've had a couple of examples of this, but it's very difficult to do), but more than anything, I just wanted to construct something that puts everything together in a good way. Really glad you think I've done that 👍🏻
Wonderful! Long Live King Edward! ❤🤍🖤🎸👑
Thank you! And yes - I can only hope these videos do their small part in keeping him in people's minds.
Thank you so very much for this. So professionally done. Very polished. Brought tears to my eyes seeing/hearing the guys speaking and playing as one again. Greatest band ever. I will die on that hill.
That's fantastic to hear, thank you very much. I couldn't hope for a better reaction than that. "Greatest band ever" is a big call, but they really are up there. I was just doing another video project about them (more of a montage than these videos) and when you put all the best clips together, it's very clear how special they were.
Tremendous job for the Ultimate Band! A great big thank you from everyone who grew up with this band being the soundtrack of our lives. As Gene said sounded like an orchestra of guitars all by himself. There will never be another band like The Mighty Van Halen!
Thank you! And you're right - there won't ever be anything quite like them again.
Loving the series!
Thank you for saying and glad to hear!
I very much enjoyed that. Thank you for making it!
Thank you for saying! Great to hear when people are getting something out of it.
Absolutely amazing series! Thanks for making this
Thanks a lot for saying so, and you're very welcome. Worth it when people say things like this 👍🏻
These videos are so touching. Just amazing how you pulled everything together to provide information and evoke such emotion. These make me happy remembering and sad that VH is gone forever. Thanks for this amazing work you have done. Bravo!
Thanks a lot for taking the time to say that and I'm really glad to hear. Of course I want to tell the story first and foremost, but if it can then also move people, then there's no better comment I could receive 🙏🏻
I wish they would make a movie about Van Halen.
I think they're trying to, though not an official one. Greg Renoff's book "Van Halen Rising", which covers the same 'pre-fame' period as these episodes I've made, has been optioned and a film script has been written. Whether a studio goes for it or not is another matter though.
Well done! Love these! ❤
Glad to hear - thanks for saying, and not for the first time 😊
Love it! Hope you keep going with these! Incredibly well done!
Thank you once again! I'll try to do more, but just want to take a break - these have ended up more time-consuming than I imagined! But I really want to cover the 1978-84 era of course, so hopefully I'll get back to these before too long.
Great work on this series. Bravo.
Thanks again! Still love that username 😁
Awesome series!
Thanks a lot for saying, and tell your friends! Hopefully I'll have more out later this year 👍🏻
I really would love to hear Jacki Fox and Lita Fords version of telling how Paul and Gene went together to see Van Halen . Jacki and Lita were the conduit that put VH in the spotlight and interest of Both gene and Paul to start with
Really nice with the film reel layout of the video. Its really well done, not distracting or hard to keep up with - a cool way to present the videos and pictures. I found the disco/punk emergence fascinating. One could imagine VH pivoting to punk and try and ride that wave - particularly when they were grinding it out in the clubs. I guess they knew what they were good at, and why should they blunt their talent for the chance at a short cut to fame. Great job as ever on the video
Thanks again for the kind words Kav! Interesting you say that about playing punk stuff - the VH brothers were way too musical to really want to play anything that basic, but Ed has said numerous times that a song like "Ain't Talkin Bout Love" was sort of his version of writing a punk song. So it did have some vague influence on what their were doing.
I wonder if we can get our hands on copies of their play list for the clubs? That would be gold! Hearing Eddie talk about playing other band's tunes has me very interested.
I did have a look, but couldn't see any photos of anything unfortunately.
Really well done videos. I think once you finish the last one it would be smart to release a full video of them all combines as it seems long documentary videos get the most engagement on yt.
Thanks a lot for the comments and suggestion. You're not the first person who's mentioned that about putting them together as a full video. I have already put them together in a playlist, but do you mean more like actually re-editing them, so that they play as one video file? I'd like to make more video covering after Van Halen become well-known, but maybe it is a good idea as a starting point to edit these first five together as a longer "early years" documentary.
@@iconsremembered It seems that longer form content is easier for people to submit themselves to watching than short chunks. We humans are freaky creatures and we like simplicity and lack of effort so someone would rather just choose a long video with all of the info than search for a playlist with a bunch of parts or click on each subsequent part. I'm guilty of taking video series on yt and stitching them together myself in editing software to watch in one sitting. Your scripting and editing is superb and I can tell it takes a lot of time but it may be more fruitful to allow yourself to make one large and easily consumable product. I'll still stay tuned for your individual episodes but other people may not so its really just all about human mental engineering
@@joem2457 Thanks a lot for this - really appreciate the feedback. It shouldn't be too difficult to make, so I'll look into it the next few days and see if I can make something longer-form that flows well.
@@iconsremembered Best of luck to you. You've got A+ passion and skill so it wouldnt surpirse me to see this channel blow up soon enough
Thats nice
SWEET JESUS!!!!! AWESOME!!! TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!
Thanks for being so positive about it. So glad to hear when people enjoy it!
Brilliant work Simon😊. Great video to finish the series!
Can you do a version with all 5 parts back to back or all together or something like that?
Congrats on the making 1k subs btw!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
When and what is the next series gonna be?
Thanks Dan 🙏🏻 I'll at least look at putting them together in a playlist - have to figure out how to do that!
I don't have plans for a different series, though there are a couple of ideas. I'd like to do more of EVH, but just need a break first!
Absolutely LOVE this series!
All hail - King Edward!! 👑🎸
Thank you for saying 😊
Can only hope it does the king justice 🎸
Can. You. Even. Imagine.... Van Halen playing in a club... with NO ONE THERE.... Mind blowing. I mean... the FIRST time I heard Van Halen's debut album--back in 1979... it literally changed my life. How ANYONE could hear them playing live back then and not be converted to fans is beyond me.
It's actually crazy to imagine. But I love the idea that they kept playing the same regardless of how many or how few were watching. Stadium-sized energy and performance in an empty club. That's part of why they were so awesome.
@@iconsremembered It's a nice thought... but since nobody was there to see that... sounds more like a myth than reality. And also sounds like mental illness if it were true. :)
@@Big_Island_Boithat's funny because you're the one that sounds mentally ill with your comment😂
@@jmm1817 Takes one to know one! :)
@Big_Island_Boi what is this middle school? I know you are, but what am i?
Wauuuuuu❤eddie
King of kings....
❤
Thank you!
I've read about "the" demo that Gene paid for thinking it's like the Holy Grail of their music . After hearing it , it doesn't sound any better than any other demo that you can find . Ive read Gene said that they can keep the demo and tore up the contract he had with them . The Electric Ladyland demo should be free somewhere on UA-cam and the official Van Halen site .
That would be nice if they were just made officially available. Whatever you think of the quality of the demo, it's a really interesting snapshot of where the band and those songs were in 1976. I still didn't want to go near the demos for this video though - even if those aren't the released versions of those songs, I could imagine I'll get lots of trouble using them.
@@iconsremembered I don't think you'll get in trouble . I do know Gene didn't want them to profit off the demo . The Van Halen offers you to hear it for free . And it's contrary to what the big liar Captain Candyass Scammy said that the brothers only cares about money . He's said some very hurtful things about Edward that just isn't true . Wait til Alex's book comes out . Then we'll hear the truth .
👑EVH
Gene didn't discover Van Halen....Everyone that ever heard them play before that did...😂🍻
To be fair to Gene, in the later interview shown (from 2020 after EVH had passed away), he said that he didn't really discover them: "I didn't discover Superman... He was always there". The only reason I didn't use that quote now was because I wanted to use it later instead.
EVH
Used to love Eddie and Van Halen.
Then he fired Dave. I forgave him because Dave and they need more range to expand their music.
Then he fired Sammy. Mind blown. The guy who lifted Van Halen to superstar status is tossed like yesterday's trash. Couldn't forgive him for that.
Then he fires Mikey and replaces him with his teenage son. WTF? The harmonies that gave Van Halen that sound FIRED for what again?
Eddie is a horrible human being. He read too much of his own press I guess. You don't just sh*tcan the core of the band, the very band that made the music that the audience embrace your sound, and expect people to just shrug it off. Besides, Buckethead would blow him off the stage. Don't think so?
Go here: ua-cam.com/video/UyA93RbBndM/v-deo.html and watch till the end.
Or just watch the solos he pulled while fronting for Guns & Roses. The guy isn't human.
Thank you!
"Besides, Buckethead would blow him off the stage." LOLOL.
Thanks for your time and effort in creating this, @iconsremembered
You're very welcome. It takes a lot of time, but it's also a labour of love. Feels worth it when people like it 👍🏻