Sadly youtube has become a place where dumb bimbos with the big breasts that talk about nothing but nothing gets more subs than interesting content creators such as David. in order for his channel to grow passed the 100K point, David would either have too start wearing a bra or train a hot blond to host the show for him lmaoooo I vote for the Bra haha
@@patprop74 I hope Dave doesn't take your advice. The implants might get in the way when leaning over a live chassis. I do agree that most social media and content has gone the easy option though. How many videos do we really need of people dropping things on trampolines or regurgitating other peoples car crash videos? I like Dave for his workmanship and information. If I want to see an explosion I watch Big Clive. If I want modern tech I watch Explaining Computers If I want brackets I wait a month for Project Binky
@@1974UTuber Nor do I, I landed on a video that does something like I just have suggested and it's not pretty hahaha click and watch if you dare but I'm warning you it's not for the faint of heart. ua-cam.com/video/ppj3gqUTt9E/v-deo.html
You're ability to come up with innovative ways to resolve those problems always amaze me. Your videos are greatly entertaining as well as educational. Gotta find an emotion meter like you have. Keep up the great work. You certainly take the "covid" worry out of covid19 over here in the States.
I just informed the manager of the Clayton Hotel about the missing pencil. You can expect the police smashing your front door any minute now...Thanks again David for this wonderful video, really enjoyed it.
The best thing i like in your videos that you dont only restrore the radio but also explain the way to restore and also give detail information about the process and equipment and material used. That make your videos much interesting and informative..😀👍
as an ETECH for 40 years you are truly worth watching these antique repairs ,,,Never worked on any tube products ,,,,,much more difficult than solid state
David, I really enjoyed watching you trouble shoot the phono. Loved the tachometer on the phone. It's so great to be able to watch a fellow hobbyist solve problems with old technology. UA-cam has made it possible for a Yank to watch an Aussie fix our toys. Keep it up!
All I can say Dave is you are brave taking on that record player. Kudos for not giving up on it (yet) and pressing on. A restoration project like this would involve 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration along with a truck-load of patience and persistence. * respect *
These kind of mechanical gizmos always fascinate me. So simple but still so complicated. Imagine starting with an empty paper and just make this thing up. Great video as always!
Wow! I can't beleive I'm watching the same guy. You jumped out of your own element, experimented, failed, tried again and again and sucsceeded. That was exciting to watch. Thats very daring. Bravo!
Whoopee! Dave's back! That rpm counter is terrific, it makes me laugh out loud, but it also makes me a bit seasick, even thinking of it... oh, excuse me a minute...
Each week i look forward to your restorations, and this week i'm not disappointed, is there anything you can not repair or replace. As usual another great video. Keep up the good work.
Another great project and video. The epilogue was VERY funny. Funny thing: In the 21st Century where computerized devices can perform all manner of miraculous feats, I have more and more been getting deeper satisfaction from using mechanical devices. Mechanical engineering makes me FEEL better. Perhaps that is because I can see how it works. There's something more human and organic about levers, cams, pivots and mercury switches.
This record player is a great big mechanical puzzle. The technology they had then was surpassed by their inventiveness for sure! Like the flocking powder color! Very 1950s. You have quite a bit of patience in restoring the old girl. I like your sense of humor mate! EmotionOmeter indeed! LOL😆🤣😂
Hi Steve, mechanically it's pretty simple but it's a fine balancing act to get it to work properly I found out. Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the little video at the end 😄
Fabulous work as always. Fantastic 😁. I can't wait until the case gets your treatment. That's my favorite part. Except that the series is almost over 😅
What a beautiful job Dave, the mechanical ingenuity that was used back then.is simply amazing, and your working through it and restoration of it was first class. Loved the flocking too. I did my first flocking earlier this year on the Mantola dial back face. Great work!
Hi Gregg, thank you. I have to do a bit more to it in part 3 and it's working quite well now. I had never heard of flocking powder before this and went off looking for spray on felt paint, it doesn't exist, but I found some guys on UA-cam flocking a cars dashboard. I bought some burgundy flocking powder on eBay for next time. Thanks mate 😃
For the small rubber tip I immediately thought of bungee straps that have a hook on the end they usually have rubber tips on, but you did well with the pencil rubber. I used to put rubber parts in the freezer before drilling or machining, but you did very well. All in all another great piece of work. People will be flocking to see how to restore the platter! Cheers Lynton
Hi Lynton, I think the bungee hook ends would be too small. I racked my brain and the internet trying to come up with something, then wife said pencil eraser 🤦♂️ I should try a bit of round rubber to make a more robust tip, freezing is a good idea 👍 Sooo many flocking jokes 😣🙂
Record Players are one of the most finicky items to work on and you make it babies play! Well done my friend! Can't wait to see it completed.. Always get a smile on my face when I see one of your videos come up.
Excellent going Mr Tipton!! Watching this video made me realise how challenging it can be to figure out the function of some of these ancient technical marvels :-) BTW the rubber cap you were seeking is one of those used to cap off a bleeder nipple on a vehicle brake wheel cylinder or clutch slave. They stay nice and soft, erasers tend to harden. I appreciated the comprehensive pump repair tutorial, very good..
@@DavidTipton101 I have loads of all sizes and can gladly send you some as a donation. Also I have something else I would like to donate, is there any way to contact you apart from YT?
Jeez, a great restoration as usual, and that Rageometer at the end was a real...gusher. I'm looking forward to the case restoration. Keep up the good work!
Nice job as always Dave...I remember those 78 records as a Kid not like the vinyl of recent years ..Drop them and they would shatter.. Anxious to see part 3 finishing on the chassis..thanks and be Safe keep up the good work...
What a whacky sense of humour, but I love it. lol. I am in awe of how you worked out how it all worked. I think my patience would have run out. However, they will all come back when it is dinner time and they get hungry! lol
Someone else suggested that but the auto shop didn't have any, I will try another tomorrow. I am thinking a piece of rubber tube might do the job, it doesn't have to be filled on the top to work 👍🙂
Hi Dave, Hope you, your wife, and family are keeping safe and well during these uncertain times. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this episode of seeing you feel your way as you figured out the operation of the record deck. You are a brave man working out what goes where, and what does what on camera. I would be somewhat shy from working out the unknown on camera as I always come up with several hundred air-brain ideas, and be somewhat self-conscious that everyone would be laughing at me, before finally figuring out how things actually operate LOL. I’d say you are well on to achieving a fully functional record deck. You will remember, I did say you are the right man for doing that job. That deck looks the same, or very similar to the end feed deck incorporated into the 1948 Philco, model 46-1201 table-top radiogram. I took the liberty to pass on your UA-cam Channel to Ron C. Ron is currently restoring the electronics part of a Philco, model 46-1201 for some he knows. See his channel, and his episodes featuring the Philco table-top radiogram: ua-cam.com/video/82lzedrvBrE/v-deo.html (I think I’ve copied this correctly) I’m sure you will find it will make interesting viewing ...perhaps you could compare notes with him. Cheers my friend, Phil.
Hi Phil, I was wondering when I would hear from you. Thank you, we are all well down here and Covid free at the moment. I was very eager to work out the player part and it's only right I share my incompetence on camera. It took a while but I got there... eventually. Having no experience with 78s didn't help 🙂 I mentioned in the video that it was a Philco deck but I think it was produced locally but can't be sure. I looked at Ron's channel and the Philco. It's ironic that he is doing one the same time as me, if he did his a few weeks ago I wouldn't have had to guess so much with my deck. I searched the internet before I started on the deck but found little info on the Philco and none on my KK Astor. Thanks Phil and keep safe in Old Blighty 🙂
Really enjoyed watching this and I was absolutely amazed it was possible to put new flock on the platter. I always learn something from watching your videos.
I never leave remarks but I just felt it would be rude not too after being so engaged with what your doing. You explain everything so well and made me think of remedies along the way with you and in a relaxed way. Thanks for inspiring me. Ps the only thing I cringed over was leaving silicon on that beautiful mercury switch. Thanks again
Thanks for your comment John. That was a big project, sorry I left silicon on the switch 😄 I still use that gram today and it works and sound so good. 78 records play perfectly and sound terrific 🙂
Thee flocking powder is greet stuff makes it look the part ,i also was intrigued with the turn table mechanism designed been well thought out ,Great work David i always learn something watching your talent.Many thanks and of to watch part 3 iam all behind lol.
Hi Dave, Thanks. The flocking power was surprise to me, I hadn't heard of it until the night before I did it, the player mechanism was intriguing. Thank you, I hope you enjoy part 3 👍
Really enjoying the Astor KK resto. Thanks. Many Moons ago I was given a Phillips under dash 45rpm record player, one side at a time. Annoying device really records everywhere sliding around the car. Seeing you balancing the pick up arm reminded me of the Phillips I think the pressure on that arm must have bee around half a pound, never jumped but was hard on my beloved 45s. Bob.
Haha... thanks Bob. I can imagine a car filled with 45s sliding around at each turn, how far we've come 😄 I'm sure the tracking weight would have been no more than 1/4 pound, cheers 😀
The scary moment in this video; soldering wires to the mercury switch. But as always it came out perfect, as well as the rest of the record player. Good job!
For anyone used to later machinery (1958-onwards) like me, this deck needs a complete un-learning of conventional wisdom! I spent much of this video shaking my head slighly as I marvelled at its overall weirdness. You did well to figure it out! I might have to check out your son's channel, looks pretty good!
Hi Paul, it's an oddity of a deck, that's why I wanted one to see how it worked. It's crude but gets the job done. Do you think my son-in-law should have his own channel making fun of me, that would go viral 😄
Thats a neatly designed mechanism. Glad you got that working. This thing is actually coming together. I must admit I didn’t see that happen when you started. This is pretty good..😃
Wonderful work Dave, loved the ending. I think every female should come with one of these displays on their forehead. That way you can make an adjustment to your tone of speech and that way you'll never be up to your neck in whatever it was Sam was pumping out.
Hi Brian, thanks. Most females I have encountered have a display already, it's pretty easy to read when you are in trouble, the rolling pin backs it up 😄
Some of your videos I just sit at my screen and watch in amazement. Some I watch and I think: Wait, doesn't it look like that doohickey on the back of the record player will make it work for 10 inch... Oh okay you figured it out. But let me just comment that the original cartridge stuck out much more than... Oh never mind you got it. Oh and that stopper thingybob looks like the little stoppers on the sprinkler system that I have and... Okay an eraser works too I guess... 😄 LOL at the end sequence by the way. Patent pending I presume? 😄 Thanks for posting. Always great fun to watch your projects.
Haha... thanks Jac, I get there eventually, most times. The eraser solution is a stopgap, I will come up with something else, erasers have the life expectancy of a moth but it proved the operation of the mechanism. My emotion meter was a complete failure, it exploded on the shake down test 😏 Thanks for watching, I appreciate it 😀
WOW What a piece of work that was. Not a pretty piece but in engineering terms it was a real wonder to behold. There would be a way to build a circuit into the existing mechanism that slows the motor down to 33 when a 12" record goes in. That would be a marvellous addition to the engineering of the unit. Really great job Dave. Thanks again for sharing that. I will probably never see another one of these in my life but I would love the chance to work on one
Hi 1974UTuber, thank you. You can imagine the design leader coming in and telling the team "we need to make a record player that loads from the front" ... say what now!!! The motor may be able to be slowed but it would lack any torque without some fancy circuitry, a good idea though. I don't know where you are but there are Astor KKs in Oz or look for the Philco version in the US. Philco 46-1201 and 48-1200 👍🙂
Amazing work as usual. As a note, that original cartridge was a crystal cartridge that probably had an output of around 3 volts, not 300mv. If you find it a bit quiet when you put it back together, thats why
Hi Shock Hazard, Yes you are absolutely correct, I couldn't find any info on the original cartridge but have come to understand it was about 3 volts, (I knew it had a 3 in there somewhere) I fix it in part 3 👍😉
The clothes-pin pulse/ox clip was a perfect touch! Thanks for great videos! That original pickup may have put out as much as 3 volts, so if your output is low it might be that might be the problem, FWIW.
Great job on the record player. I believe I have one of those around somewhere in the Philco version. That player is known as the "Bing Crosby" here in the U.S. due to the commercials he did for it.
Lovely restoration as usual. I've not done this myself so only relying on what I've read but I believe when using a stereo cartridge to play mono records you may need to reverse the phase of one of the cartridge outputs otherwise the outputs cancel or just use one output only. Worth a shot.
Hi Ian, someone else said something similar but I can't reverse the phase as there is nothing to reverse it with. I will play around with it and see if I can discover something, thanks 👍🙂
DARN you Dave! Here I was all set to go to bed here on the west coast of the U.S. of A. and I just refreshed my sub tab and up pops this video so of course I had to stay up and watch it! As to the 2 sizes of 78 RPM records, I saw it line up with the 10 inch no problem but then you stuck in the 12 and that worked too. Good bit of detective work there! There is a reason our wives are called the BETTER HALF, very often some of the best ideas come from them and if they are really skilled.... they make us think it was OUR idea! :P :P For flocking I am sure you saw the "flocking gun" in the craft stroe. It is just 2 card board tubes that sldie tightly on each other. A hole in the end of one tube and you put the powder between the tubes, pump them in and out then PRESTO little bits of flocking are forced onto your project! Last week I looked at the turn table and let out a groan. I am not sure I would have gone after repairing but you just jumped in and did it! BRAVO!!! Going with the adjustable counterweight was the right way to go, it is much less of a fuss to get correct pressure at the Cart. I hope you have a nice display space for all your restorations, they are starting to pile up! I am looking into making a few AM transmitters, nothing fancy just something to get some period correct music on the sets here. AM radio here has gong from THE format with the best music that we listened to in the early 70s here when I was in High School to now, mostly the onnly thing you can get on AM is sprots, talk radio religous stations and languages I do not speak. A small traansmitter can over power or at least fill in blank dial space with programming that I want to listen to. It just seems wrong to have a wooden case radio from the 30s or 40s playing modern musiic. Perhaps it is just me. Anyway, GREAT video as always :D
Hello Wayne, sorry to be a nuisance keeping you up and all 😉 It's a pity UA-cam cant's sync the release time to the time zones. The 12" record had me stumped there then the 10" did the same 😄 I looked at the flocking pump, maybe I should get one. I wouldn't have used it on this video as it was a spur of the moment thing. I have an AM transmitter but I live in a steel framed house and I won't travel from one room to another, I don't know why Faraday had to invent electromagnetic field blocking 🙄 Bluetooth is an option and much easier to implement 🙂
@@DavidTipton101 Fariday, darn him and his inventions :P Yes a small bluetooth receiver tied in at the volume pot with a switch is not hard, and will work much like the record player on this radio but one low powered transmitter "converts" all the sets. I don't know, still thinking about it.
@@wayneparris3439 Yep, if you want to service multiple sets a transmitter is the way to go. If you are in the US have a look at the Talking House transmitter, The sound quality is a bit poor but people improve it with some mods.
@@DavidTipton101 Thank you. Yes I have looked at them. I am indeed in the U.S. near Riverside Cal. about 100 miles south of Los Angles. There are several schematics for them also and they are only a handful of parts. I am looking for the last part to make one. A variable cap from roughly 20 to 350 mf. At the moment the only place I can find it is online from Russia.
Hey David!!! So wonderful to see another video from you!!! I always enjoy your videos. One of the many reasons I love your videos is that when a challenge crops up, instead of making excuses like so many people do, you find inventive, creative, ingenious ways to solve the problem! Love the pencil eraser solution. Though a part of me never wants this particular project to end, I am so eager to see the finished product as well. I have never seen a front-loading turntable before. Do you know of other brands that used them? Stay Safe, Stay Healthy, and Stay Happy!!! And tell that wife of yours that she is MUCH APPRECIATED!
Hey Wayne! I admit I like an engineering challenge and producing a solution, must be a missing gene or something. This is the only radiogram that I have seen with the front loader and it intrigued me and have been looking for one. I think Philco in the US had a similar unit and Astor copied it, stole it or bought it from them. Mine has similar components on it as the Philco but may be locally produced with local parts. Google Philco 46-1201 and 48-1200. I try not to give my wife too much credit but she comes up with some good stuff and she gets a kick out of it when I mention her 🥰 Thanks Wayne 👍🙂
Great restoration, every time I learn something new, I love to repair old tube stuff too. P.S. Greetings from Poland! Because this 'pipe mud shot' video comes from Poland :D
Hi David. I have just discovered your channel and am completely addicted. Amazing stuff you are doing! Apologies if this has already bean mentioned but... 78s can actually sound excellent but it is imperative that you have the correct stylus. The groove of a shellac 78 is about 3 mils (thousands of an inch) or 0.0762mm. While the width of the groove in a microgroove vinyl record is only 1 mil or 0.0254mm. All of the best quality sonic information in a record groove is in the walls of the groove so if you use a modern vinyl stylus on a 78, the stylus just rides along the bottom of the groove avoiding the waveforms and instead reading the dust and grime that resides at the bottom of the groove. If a suitable 3 mils 78 stylus (preferably mono) is used, it sits snugly in the groove and gets all the nice fat sound waves!! I have some 50s 78s that sound fantastic. Thanks again for all your great work.
Hello @Bizzle65, thank you and welcome to my channel. I'm glad you are enjoying it. I part 3 I get a proper mono 78 cartridge for it. The stylus I am using here is a for 78 rpm records and has the correct tip, angles etc. I still have the radio here and was listening to some 78s I picked up on the weekend. They sound great on this Astor, it's a very good radio/gram and is one of my favorites. I was asked to give a talk about it at a radio club function recently and it attracted quite a bit of interest. Cheers! 🙂
I've never imagined a record player like this, but the idea follows through to the modern CD arrangement. Its all been done before, Like 70 years ago. Crikey. Anyway Dave, thoroughly enjoyed your video as usual.
Hi David am watching your Aster KK deck video, as I'm in my late 60s I knew there were 12 inch 78s as we had an old gram when I was a boy, but what I didn't know till recently was that some ( what we know as 78s ) were actually produced to run at 80 RPM. I have a few which I got somewhere along the line with 80 RPM printed on the label so don't worry too much about the speed as I've never seen an 80 RPM deck. Regards John
Hi John, My experience with 78s is limited as you can see.= but I have never heard of an 80RPM, maybe they just rounded it out 🤔 the 1 RPM error is of little consequence at that speed. I'll have to look up 80RPM records now 😏😄
Terrific work and sleuthing as usual! If that rubber ever fails from wear (unlikely as you aren't going to use the player a lot) you can try to find one of those white plastic erasers, they provide just as much friction as the rubber ones but are considerably harder. Quite a few people recommend them as a replacement friction clutch material for Philips reel-to-reels from the 50s and early 60s. I think I'd have left the original wires on that mercury switch and put some heatshrink on, they look to be braided for a reason - providing free movement for the switch. 26 minutes in: the arm adjustment is probably fine but the player isn't designed for that kind of record. 1930s and later 78s had lead-in grooves just like 33s and 45s because they were designed to be used with automatic players and changers. Those should work fine. Yours is an older one that won't play on anything automatic. With newer records you shouldn't need that phenolic block.
Thank you Ragnar8504. That's a good idea with the white erasers, they would be better. Yes the braded wires on the switch were to allowing free movement of the switch, I used silicone covered wire which is very flexible and laid out the wire carefully so as not to influence the switch operation, it seems to work. I will assess the need for the block in part 3. I noticed it started the record a little into the music on some occasions. I have a few 78's that don't have the lead in groove and a lot of them have chips on the edges so I was keen to keep out of that area. I have some work to do regarding the cartridge so I will see what needs to be done regarding the block, Thanks for your feedback Ragnar8504 🙂
My Dad has a small collection of 78’s originally purchased. But you are a bit of a distance from North Carolina and I doubt my Sis would let us part with them. If I ever get hold of them I may be able to pay a visit.
David, 12" 78s were the standard size ... approx 4mins per side ... 10" were a bit like singles. LPs arrived in 1948 in the US (although various attempts at longer playing records had occurred before and the Vitaphone sound system for films used a 16" disk running at 33 1/3 rpm) ... My earliest 78 is a 12" single sided disk from 1904 of Madame (later Dame) Nellie Melba.
Hi Chris, I now have a 12" 78 from 1926 so they went back further than the article I read said and to 1904 as you pointed out. I have only ever seen the 10" records, I don't think we ever had a 78 player when I was young 🙂
I was surprised at your comments about not having seen 12" 78's. They were the norm in my childhood during the 50's and I inherited a large collection at the time from an uncle and a great uncle. I did also have some 10" discs and some of these were marked as 80rpm - the turntables of the time (the windup sort) could be varied up to 80rpm. So I guess maybe that the final 78rpm speed decision only came about a bit later but certainly very early on.
Hi John, don't be surprised, we didn't have a record player until 1960, so I didn't have any exposure to 78s, I don't remember anyone else having them either. Someone else commented on 80 RPM records too, I looked at mine and they are 78s or don't say 🙂
thats a lovely record player , hope you use it regularly. would have been so much better if it could have played 33 lp to, could be the main house record player althou suppose the stop switch would have needed to be replaced for microswitch. love your restorations and sense of humour :)
Dave's wife: " I've made some egg drop soup and spring rolls for lunch. Do you have one of my Chinese soup bowls? You better bring it up ASAP!" The ending was just hilarious. Sam seems like a swell guy.
I think you have more crackle than vocal from the new stereo cartridge because two of the wires on one channel have been reversed and it's cross phasing, one channel is cancelling out the other, you need to reverse two of the wires to bring back the sound.
Hi Bill, I don't get what you are saying, I have a mono input to the amp (radio) and I have divided each mono input into two and connected one to the L and R pins on the cartridge and the second mono to the two stereo ground pins. I tried reversing the two inputs to the radio but it makes no difference. If it was a stereo recording I could see a loss if bass but this is mono and the signal from the cartridge should be the same from both L and R pins 🤔
David Tipton not easy to explain to be honest but basically the two live wires need to be connected to the two left and right positive pins on the cartridge and the two ground wires to the left and right ground pins, if this is how you have done it I don’t know what the problem is. The effect you experienced is definitely two stereo inputs out of phase with each other and cancelling each other out when connected to a mono input.
You are correct Bill the stereo inputs are cancelling each other. I only have a mono input to the radio so with only two wires there is nothing to swap but... I disconnected one side of the stereo cartridge and it works perfectly so you were correct. Thanks Bill between you and others I managed to get it playing properly. I will go one step further in Part 3. Thanks and all the best 👍🙂
Dave you crack me up, Very funny, yah that was tricky one, but Super Dave handled it along with his Super Wife, she is an asset to you and your channel bless her, another great video loved it, and the jokes are just getting better, best regards Barry 😂
Hi Barry, it's all coming together at last, it could have gone either way. My wife is getting too much credit, I think I will just steal her ideas and represent them as my own from now on 👍🙂 The jokes can only get better, there was no other direction to go, Cheers 👍😀
OMG, the emometer is great, and the turntable! However, your luck may have run out.... I work security for Clayton Hotels. We have have been relentlessly searching for that pencil for a long time. Do you know what kind of trouble you're in? 🤪 Kudos to the real engineer of the outfit, the Mrs. of course! Thanks again David....
Hi John, thanks. I wish to point out that my wife procured the pencil and I had nothing to do with it, I'm pleading the 5th! I shell pass on your kudos to the wife as they cart her off 😄
Great job on the deck, I would not worry about the stylus pressure too much, I have a mid 30's radiogram that uses steel needles and the arm pressure is probably 3 times higher than your deck! I hope your new cartridge has a high enough output voltage, I have had a hard time trying to source high output carts for some of my record players. I have found it a lot cheaper to buy those cheap Chinese carts & make up a little preamp, works well and the replacement styli are very cheap.
Hi markpirateuk, yes I agree. The original tracking force was 40 grams, I was trying to set the force to the new cartridge. I have cheap Chinese cartridges but designed for 45 and 33 RPM. Do they work on 78s? 🤔
@@DavidTipton101 They do indeed, I have had a couple of those cheapo Chinese record players that had a 78 speed setting, I think you can get 78 stili for these, I think on Ebay.
Oh David where to begin! Loved seeing you fathom out the record player neat design lots of thought gone into it, really clever but simple mechanism. Couldn't stop laughing at the humourous interludes especially at the end. All in all another informative and entertaining episode, oh and thanks to Clayton Hotels (not a sponsor). Are the flock makers related to The Sullivan's, who were a feature of our UK TV lunchtimes last time I remember their son and uncle Norm were still fighting the Japanese in the Far East 😂😂
Hi Ken, thank you. Archaic design but works well enough. I hope Clayton hotel wasn't watching. I believe that Kitty Sullivan branched out into the flock supply business so there may be a connection 😄
the spring on the motor is prob 50 and 60 hz adjustment as motor will spin slightly different speed, they used to do that on old bsr turntables and have to taps on motor one for 120 and other 240
That's an interesting thought lookoutleo. Adding the spring would account for our lower frequency but the motor didn't have provision for different tappings. I'm not sure what to make of that 🤔
@@DavidTipton101 was their not 2 coils on that motor , both could be in paralell on 120 or maybe another coil used, checked out the make of the machine and think its american, looks like more modern changer with the same control for speed and reject on zenith consol machines of the 60s
@@lookoutleo I didn't notice anything about two coils but I wasn't looking. The record player is a Philco design but I think it was manufactured here. It has some differences to the Philco unit.
That is a pretty interesting mechanical arrangement they have for the record player. .Interesting how when you push the record in it opens until its all the way in then it closes on the record. You need to be somewhat of a mechanical engineer on this one.
You deserve 20x more subscribers. Amazing job as usual David!
Thanks André 😀
Sadly youtube has become a place where dumb bimbos with the big breasts that talk about nothing but nothing gets more subs than interesting content creators such as David. in order for his channel to grow passed the 100K point, David would either have too start wearing a bra or train a hot blond to host the show for him lmaoooo I vote for the Bra haha
The way to boost his viewers and subscribers is to link to his channel on forums and other forms of social media wherever possible.
@@patprop74 I hope Dave doesn't take your advice.
The implants might get in the way when leaning over a live chassis.
I do agree that most social media and content has gone the easy option though. How many videos do we really need of people dropping things on trampolines or regurgitating other peoples car crash videos?
I like Dave for his workmanship and information.
If I want to see an explosion I watch Big Clive.
If I want modern tech I watch Explaining Computers
If I want brackets I wait a month for Project Binky
@@1974UTuber Nor do I, I landed on a video that does something like I just have suggested and it's not pretty hahaha click and watch if you dare but I'm warning you it's not for the faint of heart. ua-cam.com/video/ppj3gqUTt9E/v-deo.html
That piece at the end was hilarious, David! Your patience with the turntable is commendable. You always manage to find the best solution. Kudos!
Thanks David, my wife is trying to broker a piece deal with my son-in-law, it's not looking good 😉😄 Cheers!
I can't imagine why there are three thumbs down. This video is brilliant! Great job David.
Aww... thanks Tim. One may be from my wife 😂
You're ability to come up with innovative ways to resolve those problems always amaze me. Your videos are greatly entertaining as well as educational. Gotta find an emotion meter like you have. Keep up the great work. You certainly take the "covid" worry out of covid19 over here in the States.
Ditto.
Thank you zorka. I could send you my old Emotonometer but it's in bits now 😏
I just informed the manager of the Clayton Hotel about the missing pencil. You can expect the police smashing your front door any minute now...Thanks again David for this wonderful video, really enjoyed it.
Thanks KW, Thanks for the heads up, the wife and I are going underground till this thing blows over 🏃♀️🏃♂️😯
The best thing i like in your videos that you dont only restrore the radio but also explain the way to restore and also give detail information about the process and equipment and material used. That make your videos much interesting and informative..😀👍
Thank you Manoj, my pleasure 🙂
as an ETECH for 40 years you are truly worth watching these antique repairs ,,,Never worked on any tube products ,,,,,much more difficult than solid state
Thank you Kenneth 😃
Great video, love that mechanism and thanks to your wife for keeping you honest and coming up the rubber tip idea.
Thanks Brian. Later on, I replaced the rubber tip for one out of a pinball machine, it's still working 🙂
David, I really enjoyed watching you trouble shoot the phono. Loved the tachometer on the phone. It's so great to be able to watch a fellow hobbyist solve problems with old technology. UA-cam has made it possible for a Yank to watch an Aussie fix our toys. Keep it up!
Hi Steve, thanks you, I was struggling there. UA-cam is amazing for sharing as long as it's used for goodness and not evil. All the best in the US 👍😀
All I can say is *WOW!* I couldn't go that far on a repair!! Nice job, David! *2* *Thumbs-UP* (if I could)!
Thank you pi-duino, I'll do it for you 👍👍😄
All I can say Dave is you are brave taking on that record player. Kudos for not giving up on it (yet) and pressing on.
A restoration project like this would involve 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration along with a truck-load of patience and persistence. * respect *
Thanks RoughJustice, you forgot the cussing... so much cussing 😯
These kind of mechanical gizmos always fascinate me. So simple but still so complicated. Imagine starting with an empty paper and just make this thing up.
Great video as always!
Hi Kristian, I could not imagine designing it, it would have been a lot of trial and error 😀
Wow! I can't beleive I'm watching the same guy. You jumped out of your own element, experimented, failed, tried again and again and sucsceeded. That was exciting to watch. Thats very daring. Bravo!
Thank you once again Tyrone 😃😃😃
I'm always amazed at the level of detail, the cabinet, as the saying goes "she'll be fine" :-)
Hi Paul, wish me luck with the cabinet although it looks pretty solid 🙂
Whoopee! Dave's back! That rpm counter is terrific, it makes me laugh out loud, but it also makes me a bit seasick, even thinking of it... oh, excuse me a minute...
Hi Mark, yeah, sorry about that 🤢
Each week i look forward to your restorations, and this week i'm not disappointed, is there anything you can not repair or replace. As usual another great video. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Stephen 😀
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Another great project and video. The epilogue was VERY funny. Funny thing: In the 21st Century where computerized devices can perform all manner of miraculous feats, I have more and more been getting deeper satisfaction from using mechanical devices. Mechanical engineering makes me FEEL better. Perhaps that is because I can see how it works. There's something more human and organic about levers, cams, pivots and mercury switches.
Thanks Stephen. I enjoy the convenience of modern devices but you can't beat mechanical for satisfaction 👍🙂
Amazing - anyone else would have ditched the record player!
Hi Kenneth, thanks. You probably mean anyone with any sense would have ditched it 😉😃
The quality and thoroughness of your work is very satisfying.
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Thank you Bill 🙂
This record player is a great big mechanical puzzle. The technology they had then was surpassed by their inventiveness for sure! Like the flocking powder color! Very 1950s.
You have quite a bit of patience in restoring the old girl. I like your sense of humor mate! EmotionOmeter indeed! LOL😆🤣😂
Hi Steve, mechanically it's pretty simple but it's a fine balancing act to get it to work properly I found out. Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the little video at the end 😄
Fabulous work as always. Fantastic 😁. I can't wait until the case gets your treatment. That's my favorite part. Except that the series is almost over 😅
Thanks 2 stroke Power, I'm working on the case now 😀
Nice 😁
What a beautiful job Dave, the mechanical ingenuity that was used back then.is simply amazing, and your working through it and restoration of it was first class. Loved the flocking too. I did my first flocking earlier this year on the Mantola dial back face. Great work!
Hi Gregg, thank you. I have to do a bit more to it in part 3 and it's working quite well now. I had never heard of flocking powder before this and went off looking for spray on felt paint, it doesn't exist, but I found some guys on UA-cam flocking a cars dashboard. I bought some burgundy flocking powder on eBay for next time. Thanks mate 😃
For the small rubber tip I immediately thought of bungee straps that have a hook on the end they usually have rubber tips on, but you did well with the pencil rubber. I used to put rubber parts in the freezer before drilling or machining, but you did very well. All in all another great piece of work. People will be flocking to see how to restore the platter!
Cheers
Lynton
Hi Lynton, I think the bungee hook ends would be too small. I racked my brain and the internet trying to come up with something, then wife said pencil eraser 🤦♂️ I should try a bit of round rubber to make a more robust tip, freezing is a good idea 👍 Sooo many flocking jokes 😣🙂
Record Players are one of the most finicky items to work on and you make it babies play! Well done my friend! Can't wait to see it completed.. Always get a smile on my face when I see one of your videos come up.
Thanks Le, this one was pretty easy once I worked out what the hell it was suppose to do 😄
Excellent going Mr Tipton!! Watching this video made me realise how challenging it can be to figure out the function of some of these ancient technical marvels :-) BTW the rubber cap you were seeking is one of those used to cap off a bleeder nipple on a vehicle brake wheel cylinder or clutch slave. They stay nice and soft, erasers tend to harden.
I appreciated the comprehensive pump repair tutorial, very good..
Hi Blitz, thank you. I looked for bleed nipple caps but the auto shops I visited didn't stock them, they would be about the right size too 🙂
@@DavidTipton101 I have loads of all sizes and can gladly send you some as a donation. Also I have something else I would like to donate, is there any way to contact you apart from YT?
@@blitzroehre1807 You can send an email to vintageradioaus@gmail.com 🙂
Jeez, a great restoration as usual, and that Rageometer at the end was a real...gusher. I'm looking forward to the case restoration. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Chris, I'm on the case now 🕵️♂️🙂
Where you find the patience, not to mention the skills to deal with these finicky Paleolithic mechanisms is a mystery to me, but a pleasure to watch!
I enjoy a challenge alpcns, sometimes it works sometimes not. Thank you 👍🙂
Nice job as always Dave...I remember those 78 records as a Kid not like the vinyl of recent years ..Drop them and they would shatter.. Anxious to see part 3 finishing on the chassis..thanks and be Safe keep up the good work...
Thank you Paul. It's hard to find a 78 that hasn't got a lump out of it. Part 3 coming up... next week 🙂
Kudos to the Mrs. again for the technical advice. That pump must habe been a b.s. pump; it did its job. 😝
Haha... she is the first person I turn to Wayne. I was a remarkable pump repair I'll give him that 😄
What a whacky sense of humour, but I love it. lol. I am in awe of how you worked out how it all worked. I think my patience would have run out. However, they will all come back when it is dinner time and they get hungry! lol
Hi Bob, thanks... I think 😉 They always come back 😄
Brilliant job David! I was thinking of an automotive rubber vacuum cap, they come in all sizes. Take care!
Someone else suggested that but the auto shop didn't have any, I will try another tomorrow. I am thinking a piece of rubber tube might do the job, it doesn't have to be filled on the top to work 👍🙂
Well done David, fascinating turntable mechanism, well done determining its operation. Excellent and sympathetic restoration.
Thank you Alan 👍🙂
Hi Dave,
Hope you, your wife, and family are keeping safe and well during these uncertain times.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this episode of seeing you feel your way as you figured out the operation of the record deck. You are a brave man working out what goes where, and what does what on camera. I would be somewhat shy from working out the unknown on camera as I always come up with several hundred air-brain ideas, and be somewhat self-conscious that everyone would be laughing at me, before finally figuring out how things actually operate LOL. I’d say you are well on to achieving a fully functional record deck. You will remember, I did say you are the right man for doing that job.
That deck looks the same, or very similar to the end feed deck incorporated into the 1948 Philco, model 46-1201 table-top radiogram. I took the liberty to pass on your UA-cam Channel to Ron C. Ron is currently restoring the electronics part of a Philco, model 46-1201 for some he knows. See his channel, and his episodes featuring the Philco table-top radiogram: ua-cam.com/video/82lzedrvBrE/v-deo.html (I think I’ve copied this correctly) I’m sure you will find it will make interesting viewing ...perhaps you could compare notes with him.
Cheers my friend, Phil.
Hi Phil, I was wondering when I would hear from you. Thank you, we are all well down here and Covid free at the moment. I was very eager to work out the player part and it's only right I share my incompetence on camera. It took a while but I got there... eventually. Having no experience with 78s didn't help 🙂 I mentioned in the video that it was a Philco deck but I think it was produced locally but can't be sure. I looked at Ron's channel and the Philco. It's ironic that he is doing one the same time as me, if he did his a few weeks ago I wouldn't have had to guess so much with my deck. I searched the internet before I started on the deck but found little info on the Philco and none on my KK Astor. Thanks Phil and keep safe in Old Blighty 🙂
Bravo, Dave! Great job!
If you can fix something made by Philco, you can fix ANYTHING! 😎
The Philco “close and play” was the 46-1201.
Thanks Super Het, sounds like Philco have a reputation. Thanks, I couldn't remember the last four digits 😀
Really enjoyed watching this and I was absolutely amazed it was possible to put new flock on the platter. I always learn something from watching your videos.
Hi Dave, it was a last minute decision to do it so I learned something too, it will be useful in the future 🙂
Another great video Dave - love the emotionometer, need to get myself on on those 😆
Hi Graeme, I hope you get a better one than mine 😟 Thanks Graeme 😀
I never leave remarks but I just felt it would be rude not too after being so engaged with what your doing. You explain everything so well and made me think of remedies along the way with you and in a relaxed way. Thanks for inspiring me. Ps the only thing I cringed over was leaving silicon on that beautiful mercury switch. Thanks again
Thanks for your comment John. That was a big project, sorry I left silicon on the switch 😄 I still use that gram today and it works and sound so good. 78 records play perfectly and sound terrific 🙂
Front loading...!! That’s super cool and modern for the era. As ever very interesting video.
Thanks My Messy Lab, it's pretty cool 😀
Excellent work and a great sense of humor. Enjoyed.
Thanks John and thanks for watching 👍
Superb again! I could watch these videos all day. Full marks to your wife on the eraser idea (and credit to you on the implementation :-) )
Thanks standishgeezer. I don't want my wife getting a swelled head 👍😀
Thee flocking powder is greet stuff makes it look the part ,i also was intrigued with the turn table mechanism designed been well thought out ,Great work David i always learn something watching your talent.Many thanks and of to watch part 3 iam all behind lol.
Hi Dave, Thanks. The flocking power was surprise to me, I hadn't heard of it until the night before I did it, the player mechanism was intriguing. Thank you, I hope you enjoy part 3 👍
Quality as always and the bonus video as always was a hoot. All the best from the UK hope you are well.
Thank you RSP. All the best in the UK 🍻👍🙂
i just saw and learned ingenious ideas in vintage radio repair....thanks a lot
Thanks mountainhawk, I assume you were watching another channel 😄
Great video Dave. Really enjoyed seeing how the record player worked. Great job with the turn table. Looking forward to the next installment.
Thanks Clive 😀
Really enjoying the Astor KK resto. Thanks. Many Moons ago I was given a Phillips under dash 45rpm record player, one side at a time. Annoying device really records everywhere sliding around the car. Seeing you balancing the pick up arm reminded me of the Phillips I think the pressure on that arm must have bee around half a pound, never jumped but was hard on my beloved 45s. Bob.
Haha... thanks Bob. I can imagine a car filled with 45s sliding around at each turn, how far we've come 😄 I'm sure the tracking weight would have been no more than 1/4 pound, cheers 😀
The scary moment in this video; soldering wires to the mercury switch. But as always it came out perfect, as well as the rest of the record player. Good job!
Thanks W Rex, it was a bit daunting but it worked in the end. 🙂
@H Higgins I´m sure David is aware of this. I meant the risk of cracking the glas by heating.
Kudos especially for he tonearm weighting design. Probably a piece of cake for an aircraft engineer!
Thanks Moshe, I just copied the weight design on real record players 😀
For anyone used to later machinery (1958-onwards) like me, this deck needs a complete un-learning of conventional wisdom! I spent much of this video shaking my head slighly as I marvelled at its overall weirdness. You did well to figure it out!
I might have to check out your son's channel, looks pretty good!
Hi Paul, it's an oddity of a deck, that's why I wanted one to see how it worked. It's crude but gets the job done. Do you think my son-in-law should have his own channel making fun of me, that would go viral 😄
SPOT ON DAVE......LOVE THE PUMP TOO ! cheers from across the ditch......
Thanks Philip, glad you enjoyed it 😃
Great job as always David! and the scene with the pump is a killer!!!
Thanks Moshe 😄
Ver precisely and systematic work.Great Sir . Adjust ment of record player arm and counter weight. Thanks sir.
Thank you Rakesh 😀
Great job on the record player! I enjoy picking up a old record player to work on,just to brake up my projects once in a while!
Thanks Robert. Really, I don't mind record players but would go looking for them for therapy 😄 Cheers!
Wow that flocking came out great, and looked so easy.
I was impressed with the flocking too, I had never heard of it before that day 😏🙂
Thats a neatly designed mechanism. Glad you got that working. This thing is actually coming together. I must admit I didn’t see that happen when you started. This is pretty good..😃
For what it is it's very clever Rene, it would have been quite an achievement in it's day. Thanks 🙂
Wonderful work Dave, loved the ending. I think every female should come with one of these displays on their forehead. That way you can make an adjustment to your tone of speech and that way you'll never be up to your neck in whatever it was Sam was pumping out.
Hi Brian, thanks. Most females I have encountered have a display already, it's pretty easy to read when you are in trouble, the rolling pin backs it up 😄
Talk about perfection there is not much you miss good stuff.
Thank you Michael 👍🙂
I think the bonus feature at the end was possibly even better than the restoration. 😂😂😂
Seriously though, great job on the platter!
Haha... maybe I'll just stick to bonus features Ola 😉 Thanks 😀
Interesting and clever record player mechanism David.
Absolutely Wenlocktvdx, it's ingenious and awful at the same time 😄
Some of your videos I just sit at my screen and watch in amazement. Some I watch and I think: Wait, doesn't it look like that doohickey on the back of the record player will make it work for 10 inch... Oh okay you figured it out. But let me just comment that the original cartridge stuck out much more than... Oh never mind you got it. Oh and that stopper thingybob looks like the little stoppers on the sprinkler system that I have and... Okay an eraser works too I guess... 😄
LOL at the end sequence by the way. Patent pending I presume? 😄
Thanks for posting. Always great fun to watch your projects.
Haha... thanks Jac, I get there eventually, most times. The eraser solution is a stopgap, I will come up with something else, erasers have the life expectancy of a moth but it proved the operation of the mechanism. My emotion meter was a complete failure, it exploded on the shake down test 😏 Thanks for watching, I appreciate it 😀
WOW What a piece of work that was.
Not a pretty piece but in engineering terms it was a real wonder to behold.
There would be a way to build a circuit into the existing mechanism that slows the motor down to 33 when a 12" record goes in. That would be a marvellous addition to the engineering of the unit.
Really great job Dave.
Thanks again for sharing that.
I will probably never see another one of these in my life but I would love the chance to work on one
Hi 1974UTuber, thank you. You can imagine the design leader coming in and telling the team "we need to make a record player that loads from the front" ... say what now!!! The motor may be able to be slowed but it would lack any torque without some fancy circuitry, a good idea though. I don't know where you are but there are Astor KKs in Oz or look for the Philco version in the US. Philco 46-1201 and 48-1200 👍🙂
@@DavidTipton101 I'm in Straya like you Dave.
Sydney's Western Burbs.
@@1974UTuber Then KKs the way 😀
Amazing work as usual. As a note, that original cartridge was a crystal cartridge that probably had an output of around 3 volts, not 300mv. If you find it a bit quiet when you put it back together, thats why
Hi Shock Hazard, Yes you are absolutely correct, I couldn't find any info on the original cartridge but have come to understand it was about 3 volts, (I knew it had a 3 in there somewhere) I fix it in part 3 👍😉
The B side of that Laine/Boyd 78 is a lot of fun too.
I don't think I've looked at the B side, I'll check it out, thanks 👍🙂
I have to say the micro video at the end really did get me laughing! The dog was concerned!
Thanks Ahtaimo, glad you enjoyed it 😄
The clothes-pin pulse/ox clip was a perfect touch! Thanks for great videos! That original pickup may have put out as much as 3 volts, so if your output is low it might be that might be the problem, FWIW.
Hi Glenn, I sort it out in Part 3... I hope. (you are correct BTY) 👍😉
Great job on the record player. I believe I have one of those around somewhere in the Philco version. That player is known as the "Bing Crosby" here in the U.S. due to the commercials he did for it.
Thanks Mr E, I hadn't heard about the Bing Crosby tag, thanks 😀
Lovely restoration as usual. I've not done this myself so only relying on what I've read but I believe when using a stereo cartridge to play mono records you may need to reverse the phase of one of the cartridge outputs otherwise the outputs cancel or just use one output only. Worth a shot.
Hi Ian, someone else said something similar but I can't reverse the phase as there is nothing to reverse it with. I will play around with it and see if I can discover something, thanks 👍🙂
You nailed it Ian with one disconnected Ian 🤫👍
DARN you Dave! Here I was all set to go to bed here on the west coast of the U.S. of A. and I just refreshed my sub tab and up pops this video so of course I had to stay up and watch it! As to the 2 sizes of 78 RPM records, I saw it line up with the 10 inch no problem but then you stuck in the 12 and that worked too. Good bit of detective work there! There is a reason our wives are called the BETTER HALF, very often some of the best ideas come from them and if they are really skilled.... they make us think it was OUR idea! :P :P For flocking I am sure you saw the "flocking gun" in the craft stroe. It is just 2 card board tubes that sldie tightly on each other. A hole in the end of one tube and you put the powder between the tubes, pump them in and out then PRESTO little bits of flocking are forced onto your project! Last week I looked at the turn table and let out a groan. I am not sure I would have gone after repairing but you just jumped in and did it! BRAVO!!! Going with the adjustable counterweight was the right way to go, it is much less of a fuss to get correct pressure at the Cart. I hope you have a nice display space for all your restorations, they are starting to pile up! I am looking into making a few AM transmitters, nothing fancy just something to get some period correct music on the sets here. AM radio here has gong from THE format with the best music that we listened to in the early 70s here when I was in High School to now, mostly the onnly thing you can get on AM is sprots, talk radio religous stations and languages I do not speak. A small traansmitter can over power or at least fill in blank dial space with programming that I want to listen to. It just seems wrong to have a wooden case radio from the 30s or 40s playing modern musiic. Perhaps it is just me. Anyway, GREAT video as always :D
Hello Wayne, sorry to be a nuisance keeping you up and all 😉 It's a pity UA-cam cant's sync the release time to the time zones. The 12" record had me stumped there then the 10" did the same 😄 I looked at the flocking pump, maybe I should get one. I wouldn't have used it on this video as it was a spur of the moment thing. I have an AM transmitter but I live in a steel framed house and I won't travel from one room to another, I don't know why Faraday had to invent electromagnetic field blocking 🙄 Bluetooth is an option and much easier to implement 🙂
@@DavidTipton101 Fariday, darn him and his inventions :P Yes a small bluetooth receiver tied in at the volume pot with a switch is not hard, and will work much like the record player on this radio but one low powered transmitter "converts" all the sets. I don't know, still thinking about it.
@@wayneparris3439 Yep, if you want to service multiple sets a transmitter is the way to go. If you are in the US have a look at the Talking House transmitter, The sound quality is a bit poor but people improve it with some mods.
@@DavidTipton101 Thank you. Yes I have looked at them. I am indeed in the U.S. near Riverside Cal. about 100 miles south of Los Angles. There are several schematics for them also and they are only a handful of parts. I am looking for the last part to make one. A variable cap from roughly 20 to 350 mf. At the moment the only place I can find it is online from Russia.
Hey David!!!
So wonderful to see another video from you!!! I always enjoy your videos. One of the many reasons I love your videos is that when a challenge crops up, instead of making excuses like so many people do, you find inventive, creative, ingenious ways to solve the problem! Love the pencil eraser solution. Though a part of me never wants this particular project to end, I am so eager to see the finished product as well.
I have never seen a front-loading turntable before. Do you know of other brands that used them?
Stay Safe, Stay Healthy, and Stay Happy!!! And tell that wife of yours that she is MUCH APPRECIATED!
Hey Wayne! I admit I like an engineering challenge and producing a solution, must be a missing gene or something. This is the only radiogram that I have seen with the front loader and it intrigued me and have been looking for one. I think Philco in the US had a similar unit and Astor copied it, stole it or bought it from them. Mine has similar components on it as the Philco but may be locally produced with local parts. Google Philco 46-1201 and 48-1200. I try not to give my wife too much credit but she comes up with some good stuff and she gets a kick out of it when I mention her 🥰 Thanks Wayne 👍🙂
Great restoration, every time I learn something new, I love to repair old tube stuff too.
P.S.
Greetings from Poland! Because this 'pipe mud shot' video comes from Poland :D
Thank you Sebastian. I didn't know the pump video was from Poland, it was very funny when it blasted the muddy water out 😄
@@DavidTipton101 I have to say that you got very good sense of humor :)
Hi David. I have just discovered your channel and am completely addicted. Amazing stuff you are doing!
Apologies if this has already bean mentioned but...
78s can actually sound excellent but it is imperative that you have the correct stylus. The groove of a shellac 78 is about 3 mils (thousands of an inch) or 0.0762mm. While the width of the groove in a microgroove vinyl record is only 1 mil or 0.0254mm. All of the best quality sonic information in a record groove is in the walls of the groove so if you use a modern vinyl stylus on a 78, the stylus just rides along the bottom of the groove avoiding the waveforms and instead reading the dust and grime that resides at the bottom of the groove. If a suitable 3 mils 78 stylus (preferably mono) is used, it sits snugly in the groove and gets all the nice fat sound waves!! I have some 50s 78s that sound fantastic. Thanks again for all your great work.
Hello @Bizzle65, thank you and welcome to my channel. I'm glad you are enjoying it.
I part 3 I get a proper mono 78 cartridge for it. The stylus I am using here is a for 78 rpm records and has the correct tip, angles etc.
I still have the radio here and was listening to some 78s I picked up on the weekend. They sound great on this Astor, it's a very good radio/gram and is one of my favorites. I was asked to give a talk about it at a radio club function recently and it attracted quite a bit of interest. Cheers! 🙂
I've never imagined a record player like this, but the idea follows through to the modern CD arrangement. Its all been done before, Like 70 years ago. Crikey. Anyway Dave, thoroughly enjoyed your video as usual.
Thanks John, it was 30 years ahead of it's time 😃
Hi David am watching your Aster KK deck video, as I'm in my late 60s I knew there were 12 inch 78s as we had an old gram when I was a boy, but what I didn't know till recently was that some ( what we know as 78s ) were actually produced to run at 80 RPM. I have a few which I got somewhere along the line with 80 RPM printed on the label so don't worry too much about the speed as I've never seen an 80 RPM deck.
Regards John
Hi John, My experience with 78s is limited as you can see.= but I have never heard of an 80RPM, maybe they just rounded it out 🤔 the 1 RPM error is of little consequence at that speed. I'll have to look up 80RPM records now 😏😄
I believe in the late 20's Columbia made some records that spun at 80 RPM.
Another fantastic job! The flocking is a great tip. Interesting way they created the bend in the tone arm for the cartridge angle.
hi James, thanks. It's straight from a tractor factory 😀
@@DavidTipton101 It's hard to believe it's a Philips mechanism. Strikes me as a prototype that got loose.
@@James_Bowie No... it's a Philco mech, sorry, my accent 😀
Terrific work and sleuthing as usual!
If that rubber ever fails from wear (unlikely as you aren't going to use the player a lot) you can try to find one of those white plastic erasers, they provide just as much friction as the rubber ones but are considerably harder. Quite a few people recommend them as a replacement friction clutch material for Philips reel-to-reels from the 50s and early 60s. I think I'd have left the original wires on that mercury switch and put some heatshrink on, they look to be braided for a reason - providing free movement for the switch.
26 minutes in: the arm adjustment is probably fine but the player isn't designed for that kind of record. 1930s and later 78s had lead-in grooves just like 33s and 45s because they were designed to be used with automatic players and changers. Those should work fine. Yours is an older one that won't play on anything automatic. With newer records you shouldn't need that phenolic block.
Thank you Ragnar8504. That's a good idea with the white erasers, they would be better. Yes the braded wires on the switch were to allowing free movement of the switch, I used silicone covered wire which is very flexible and laid out the wire carefully so as not to influence the switch operation, it seems to work. I will assess the need for the block in part 3. I noticed it started the record a little into the music on some occasions. I have a few 78's that don't have the lead in groove and a lot of them have chips on the edges so I was keen to keep out of that area. I have some work to do regarding the cartridge so I will see what needs to be done regarding the block, Thanks for your feedback Ragnar8504 🙂
Amazing never seen 78s played on a gram like that way before its time cool.
Me neither Peter, I have been looking for one of these radios for quite a while 🙂
Your dedication and attention to detail is amazing as ever, you ever thought of taking it up as a living 😇😂😂
Thanks waynio67, that's what I did for a living 😀
Another great video. Love watching you work. 👍
Thanks Phil, my pleasure 😀
A great bit of lateral thinking by your wife and wisdom by you for listening. Probably why she has kept you on.
Hi Bob, she keeps me out of pity I think 😄
My Dad has a small collection of 78’s originally purchased. But you are a bit of a distance from North Carolina and I doubt my Sis would let us part with them. If I ever get hold of them I may be able to pay a visit.
Sure, bring them down under HR, they will turn in the opposite direction here though 👍🙂
David, 12" 78s were the standard size ... approx 4mins per side ... 10" were a bit like singles. LPs arrived in 1948 in the US (although various attempts at longer playing records had occurred before and the Vitaphone sound system for films used a 16" disk running at 33 1/3 rpm) ... My earliest 78 is a 12" single sided disk from 1904 of Madame (later Dame) Nellie Melba.
Hi Chris, I now have a 12" 78 from 1926 so they went back further than the article I read said and to 1904 as you pointed out. I have only ever seen the 10" records, I don't think we ever had a 78 player when I was young 🙂
Lovely end and a super restoration job as always Dave. M y only concern is with the pencil rubber. They do not have much of a shelf life.
Hi Andy, I agree, I will use something else before I button it up, it did prove the mechanism though which was what I was after 🙂
Lol on the rageometer. He made a good job of the pump though!
Haha... it was so half arsed but it worked a treat 😄
I was surprised at your comments about not having seen 12" 78's. They were the norm in my childhood during the 50's and I inherited a large collection at the time from an uncle and a great uncle. I did also have some 10" discs and some of these were marked as 80rpm - the turntables of the time (the windup sort) could be varied up to 80rpm. So I guess maybe that the final 78rpm speed decision only came about a bit later but certainly very early on.
Hi John, don't be surprised, we didn't have a record player until 1960, so I didn't have any exposure to 78s, I don't remember anyone else having them either. Someone else commented on 80 RPM records too, I looked at mine and they are 78s or don't say 🙂
Como siempre muy buen trabajo, felicitaciones.
Muchas gracias Eduardo 😀
Excellent! Mercury Mechanical Magic!
It wacky but it works, thanks Neil 😀
thats a lovely record player , hope you use it regularly. would have been so much better if it could have played 33 lp to, could be the main house record player althou suppose the stop switch would have needed to be replaced for microswitch. love your restorations and sense of humour :)
Thanks lookoutleo, it sits beside me on a table at my desk, I have some 78s that I like and love showing guests how it works 😀
Superb video. I always look forward to your videos. They make my day. Thank you.
Thank you John 👍🙂
Dave's wife: " I've made some egg drop soup and spring rolls for lunch. Do you have one of my Chinese soup bowls? You better bring it up ASAP!"
The ending was just hilarious. Sam seems like a swell guy.
Haha... the bowl was a bit furry when I put it back 😄 The ending was a bit of fun thanks to Sam 🙂
Cheers Dave, we could use that pump to clear the muck in Washington DC. Would you send it over please? Great video!!
Haha... that would make short work of it 😄
I think you have more crackle than vocal from the new stereo cartridge because two of the wires on one channel have been reversed and it's cross phasing, one channel is cancelling out the other, you need to reverse two of the wires to bring back the sound.
Hi Bill, I don't get what you are saying, I have a mono input to the amp (radio) and I have divided each mono input into two and connected one to the L and R pins on the cartridge and the second mono to the two stereo ground pins. I tried reversing the two inputs to the radio but it makes no difference. If it was a stereo recording I could see a loss if bass but this is mono and the signal from the cartridge should be the same from both L and R pins 🤔
David Tipton not easy to explain to be honest but basically the two live wires need to be connected to the two left and right positive pins on the cartridge and the two ground wires to the left and right ground pins, if this is how you have done it I don’t know what the problem is. The effect you experienced is definitely two stereo inputs out of phase with each other and cancelling each other out when connected to a mono input.
You are correct Bill the stereo inputs are cancelling each other. I only have a mono input to the radio so with only two wires there is nothing to swap but... I disconnected one side of the stereo cartridge and it works perfectly so you were correct. Thanks Bill between you and others I managed to get it playing properly. I will go one step further in Part 3. Thanks and all the best 👍🙂
Dave you crack me up, Very funny, yah that was tricky one, but Super Dave handled it along with his Super Wife, she is an asset to you and your channel bless her, another great video loved it, and the jokes are just getting better, best regards Barry 😂
Hi Barry, it's all coming together at last, it could have gone either way. My wife is getting too much credit, I think I will just steal her ideas and represent them as my own from now on 👍🙂 The jokes can only get better, there was no other direction to go, Cheers 👍😀
OMG, the emometer is great, and the turntable! However, your luck may have run out.... I work security for Clayton Hotels. We have have been relentlessly searching for that pencil for a long time. Do you know what kind of trouble you're in? 🤪 Kudos to the real engineer of the outfit, the Mrs. of course! Thanks again David....
Hi John, thanks. I wish to point out that my wife procured the pencil and I had nothing to do with it, I'm pleading the 5th!
I shell pass on your kudos to the wife as they cart her off 😄
I bet Sam would actually reach 10 million subs with that channel. So funny, good job,
Don't encourage him Gaita, he might do better than me 😄 He's a very funny guy 🙂
Great job on the deck, I would not worry about the stylus pressure too much, I have a mid 30's radiogram that uses steel needles and the arm pressure is probably 3 times higher than your deck!
I hope your new cartridge has a high enough output voltage, I have had a hard time trying to source high output carts for some of my record players.
I have found it a lot cheaper to buy those cheap Chinese carts & make up a little preamp, works well and the replacement styli are very cheap.
Hi markpirateuk, yes I agree. The original tracking force was 40 grams, I was trying to set the force to the new cartridge. I have cheap Chinese cartridges but designed for 45 and 33 RPM. Do they work on 78s? 🤔
@@DavidTipton101 They do indeed, I have had a couple of those cheapo Chinese record players that had a 78 speed setting, I think you can get 78 stili for these, I think on Ebay.
@@markpirateuk I saw them on cheap players with 78 but figured it would just sound rubbish. Ok Thanks
Oh David where to begin! Loved seeing you fathom out the record player neat design lots of thought gone into it, really clever but simple mechanism. Couldn't stop laughing at the humourous interludes especially at the end. All in all another informative and entertaining episode, oh and thanks to Clayton Hotels (not a sponsor). Are the flock makers related to The Sullivan's, who were a feature of our UK TV lunchtimes last time I remember their son and uncle Norm were still fighting the Japanese in the Far East 😂😂
Hi Ken, thank you. Archaic design but works well enough. I hope Clayton hotel wasn't watching. I believe that Kitty Sullivan branched out into the flock supply business so there may be a connection 😄
_Well done doctor._
Thank you D. Ilic 😀
Can you give a detailed schematic and assembly video of the rage/inheritance meter?
Unfortunately the meter is in the bin HR, or what was left of it 👍😄
the spring on the motor is prob 50 and 60 hz adjustment as motor will spin slightly different speed, they used to do that on old bsr turntables and have to taps on motor one for 120 and other 240
That's an interesting thought lookoutleo. Adding the spring would account for our lower frequency but the motor didn't have provision for different tappings. I'm not sure what to make of that 🤔
@@DavidTipton101 was their not 2 coils on that motor , both could be in paralell on 120 or maybe another coil used, checked out the make of the machine and think its american, looks like more modern changer with the same control for speed and reject on zenith consol machines of the 60s
@@lookoutleo I didn't notice anything about two coils but I wasn't looking. The record player is a Philco design but I think it was manufactured here. It has some differences to the Philco unit.
hahaaha, CRAZY ,,, thank you David for the Video, looking forward to the next episode, big thumbs up!!!
Thanks Melissa 😄
That is a pretty interesting mechanical arrangement they have for the record player. .Interesting how when you push the record in it opens until its all the way in then it closes on the record. You need to be somewhat of a mechanical engineer on this one.
Hi Lucky, a very unique design and relatively simple too 😀