Setting Supercar Lap Times at Laguna Seca in 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance

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  • @FromWhereICharge
    @FromWhereICharge 4 місяці тому +13

    It was great to make progress! Thanks for having me along for the ride UP!

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      I want Dark Knight version of Tesla model 3P.

  • @goosedizon
    @goosedizon 4 місяці тому +30

    Insane, both driver and 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance. Such tremendous value!!!

  • @blanejr1
    @blanejr1 4 місяці тому +36

    I would have thought slicks would be more then a 1 second difference. Interesting!

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 4 місяці тому +11

      Shows how very well balanced evs are factory and how good the stock traction control is. 👍🏻
      Even in drag racing lighter/smaller wheels&stickier tires don't really make them any quicker/faster! 😀

    • @larrystalica4037
      @larrystalica4037 4 місяці тому +19

      Cup 2 R is probably the closest street tire to a slick there is.

    • @samiryouarebreakingthecar
      @samiryouarebreakingthecar 4 місяці тому +10

      porsche slow him down a bit after corkscrew

    • @apex107lrp
      @apex107lrp 4 місяці тому +3

      They would be...but who knows how consistent the driver is, or how many laps were run. The handling balance...and the driving technique...add up to huge understeer...not the fast way around.

    • @apex107lrp
      @apex107lrp 4 місяці тому +5

      @@4literv6 Traction control has nothing to do with handling balance. That thing is understeering in every corner...and from the tire sounds it seems the power is being applied too early at times, just chewing up the fronts and plowing wide.

  • @guslevy3506
    @guslevy3506 3 місяці тому +1

    I grew up on the other side of the hills from Laguna Seca and could often hear the cars and bikes as they screamed and screeched. Watching these videos takes me back home a bit…

  • @deanmcmanis9398
    @deanmcmanis9398 4 місяці тому +8

    I remember when Dodge came out with their Viper ACR 1.33 Edition, which was named after setting a Laguna Seca production car track record in 2009. This was a special, 3400lb, 600HP American Club Racer version of the Dodge Viper. So it makes this run in a Tesla M3P very impressive! Kudos, UP team!

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      DODGE is Irrelevant in 2024.

    • @garosama4517
      @garosama4517 4 місяці тому +1

      So what. Its a 15 year old manual dodge versus a modified brandnew Tesla. Lmfao the Tesla isnt the impressive car here.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому +4

      @@garosama4517 - TESLA is the NEW BENCHMARK , nobody benchmarks DODGE anymore, even MUNRO doesn't tear down ICE car anymore.

    • @avis1978
      @avis1978 2 місяці тому

      ​@@markplott4820bench mark for what? The new ioniq6N will make that tesla looks like a joke. Even the ioniq 5 N on cup 2 and no back seats will do better and it's a 4800 lbs suv.

  • @2phonesbabyken
    @2phonesbabyken 4 місяці тому +19

    this is one of those videos you nod & say "hell yeah" after watching

    • @LarsAgerbk
      @LarsAgerbk 4 місяці тому +1

      No engine sound.
      No "hell yeah"

    • @Drift_Potato402
      @Drift_Potato402 2 місяці тому

      ​@@LarsAgerbkget a grip and learn to appreciate all kinds of technological development.

  • @cokyrobes
    @cokyrobes 4 місяці тому +3

    Incredible work guys - this is awesome

  • @RobertLeclercq
    @RobertLeclercq 4 місяці тому +13

    More time to be had if the driver can get the fronts to hook up on that final corner. A tad slower and later on entry would probably cure that understeer and set up a killer front straight.

    • @apex107lrp
      @apex107lrp 4 місяці тому +5

      More time to be had in every corner. That thing understeers everywhere. Sawing at the wheel doesn't help either.

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA 4 місяці тому +4

      @@apex107lrp Vic Elford used to preach "smooth, smooth, smooth" on steering

    • @apex107lrp
      @apex107lrp 4 місяці тому +1

      @@aussie2uGA ...and Jackie Stewart...and any competent driver or instructor I ever worked with.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому +1

      Tesla FSD track mode.

    • @johnross6314
      @johnross6314 4 місяці тому +1

      @@aussie2uGA, especially helpful for AWD, let alone Tesla EV. Get Probst in the 3.

  • @chriscrosby3582
    @chriscrosby3582 4 місяці тому +5

    Great job Craig and team! 👏 😎

  • @apex107lrp
    @apex107lrp 4 місяці тому +6

    Even with all the massive understeer, the lap times are impressive. It would be interesting to see the sector times vs high dollar stuff...see where the gains and losses are.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      even FASTER w/ OHLINS.

    • @J.e.f.f.r.e.y
      @J.e.f.f.r.e.y 4 місяці тому

      Yeah the understeer is a real worry.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      @@J.e.f.f.r.e.y - BLAKE FULLER & RANDY PROBST dont seem CONCERNED at all.

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq 3 місяці тому +1

      This just proves these cars get their laptimes mostly from the acceleration, and not handling I think? Also the laptime difference between street legal and slicks are kind of small

  • @apekatt2007
    @apekatt2007 4 місяці тому +4

    Congratulations!🎉

  • @darkhorse6949
    @darkhorse6949 4 місяці тому +6

    Hopefully battery tech will improve soon to lower the weight

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      4680 Cybercell f/ model 3 soon, Structural battery pack.

  • @TeslaOwnersSV
    @TeslaOwnersSV 4 місяці тому +4

    Sweet

  • @Tiger-pu4oz
    @Tiger-pu4oz 3 місяці тому

    Great improvements!

  • @matthiasgrunwald895
    @matthiasgrunwald895 3 місяці тому

    Awesome racing!

  • @5cylinders580
    @5cylinders580 4 місяці тому +3

    good thing about model3 is that I can hear other racecars very well

  • @AcceleratingTech
    @AcceleratingTech 4 місяці тому +3

    Very cool! 😎 Congrats! 🎉

  • @s13dad82
    @s13dad82 4 місяці тому +1

    Pretty many attempts have been made to set those times. There is a big gap from 9:00AM to 4:25PM

  • @Yachtzeee
    @Yachtzeee 4 місяці тому +1

    What Race Pro Coilovers are these? Ohlins, External Reservoir, or normal Race spec Coilovers?

  • @logtec1162
    @logtec1162 4 місяці тому

    Do you have anything how to make the cooling better?

  • @rui569
    @rui569 4 місяці тому +1

    How's the cooling holding up?

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому +1

      TESLA has the octovalve & HEAT pump.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      it can't handle it, cooling is everything in ev racing, managing heat is a key part of every eve racing strategy.

  • @snopunk2
    @snopunk2 3 місяці тому

    Damn that FoMoCo is ripping

  • @chuck2200
    @chuck2200 3 місяці тому +1

    hopefully someone is able to unlock the software on these Tesla's one day and tweak the motor performance.

  • @4literv6
    @4literv6 4 місяці тому +15

    1:32 is fkn flying around seca for a st weight 4,050# awd stock powertrain 500+hp 55k American made badass ride! 👍🏻😎
    Imagine this powertrain in a 2dr sleeker coupe 300# or so lighter and turned up to 650hp for 10-15s at a time.
    Shame tesla didn't take the now fairly well developed m3/Y chassis&powertrain Put it in a lighter 2dr 4 passenger coupe.
    With f&r castings structural 4680 gen2 cybercell pack. Then shame all the camaros/mustangs/chargers/challengers/400zs etc for 45-55k. 😀

    • @dukedunac
      @dukedunac 4 місяці тому +4

      In 2035 when we have the roadster it will be insane

    • @patrickryan2614
      @patrickryan2614 4 місяці тому +1

      They need to get into more profitable markets first, like vans would be good, the Model 3 does everything so well that its unnecessary except for us hardcore track guys haha

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dukedunac In 2040 when the cold air thrusters are added, now we're talkin!

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      that would not change much, weight is not such a thing in ev's really

    • @bob-qi4nr
      @bob-qi4nr 27 днів тому

      @@dukedunac In 2025? Try 20never

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 4 місяці тому +2

    I would love to see how this car does against a stock Hyundai Ioniq 5N. They are roughly the same price probably. I know the 5N could do many more hot laps but for a single all out lap I would be surprised if the 800+ lbs heavier 5N could keep up with this car.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      5N batteries dont last 35+ years.

    • @uptoolayte1
      @uptoolayte1 3 місяці тому +1

      5N are 15k+ more expensive

    • @patatr4943
      @patatr4943 3 місяці тому

      @@markplott4820 you sincerelly believe tesla batteries last more than 10 years?

  • @ZagoDj
    @ZagoDj 3 місяці тому

    What brakes are you using?

  • @jezza6575
    @jezza6575 4 місяці тому +9

    Knocking on the Taycan GT’s doors for a third the price!

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      VW cant even SELL the Taycan anymore , DEMAND has fallen.

    • @BeyondTheApexMotorsport
      @BeyondTheApexMotorsport 3 місяці тому

      No.. not only have these cars been modified to no longer be a third of the price, suspension alone would make these track times much faster out of a Porsche.

  • @markbackeris7215
    @markbackeris7215 3 місяці тому +3

    Congrats on finding a setup and achieving great performance, the silence just saps all of the visceral emotion of driving a fast car around a world class track.

    • @1xty773
      @1xty773 3 місяці тому +2

      I get plenty of emotion hearing the sounds of the cars that the TESLA passes. Like running a race and getting more energy hearing other people breathing hard.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      not when you are in the car

    • @markbackeris7215
      @markbackeris7215 3 місяці тому +2

      @@1xty773 I could understand that I guess. Such a huge piece for me is the sound of my s2k revving out and how it matches with the flow of the track. I also enjoy the gt350s and gt3s blowing me by on the straights so the other cars add to it.

    • @markbackeris7215
      @markbackeris7215 3 місяці тому

      @@JohnSmith-pn2vl I'm sure the torque push adds something that will never be communicated in video. Heck, no track video ever represents what we feel in the car. No way getting around the loss of emotion from the lack of an ICE though.

  • @unknownname7731
    @unknownname7731 3 місяці тому

    Cool! How many laps can the car do?

  • @vermontsownboy6957
    @vermontsownboy6957 4 місяці тому +3

    Yeah....impressive. But you can easily see the effect of the extra weight from battery pack compared to the ICE car; M3P constantly going wide in corners; no surprise.

  • @BFArch0n
    @BFArch0n 4 місяці тому +1

    Only 1 sec diff on slicks, crazy

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      that's an eternity on such a tiny track ;)

  • @Leander311
    @Leander311 4 місяці тому +9

    “First, our street setup…”
    …cuts to full roll cage. 😂👌🏻

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 4 місяці тому +2

      Bolt in cage SMH, those are often required to run tracks like the green hell. And for setups like this it's likely for running as a harness bar&to attach a hans device to for driver safety. 👍🏻

    • @apex107lrp
      @apex107lrp 4 місяці тому +2

      @@4literv6 That's a half-cage...sort of a heavy duty "harness bar" really...and hardly a "stripped out" interior. The rear seats are missing. Not exactly weight saving in a 4000 or whatever pound car.

  • @toymaker3474
    @toymaker3474 4 місяці тому +4

    im still waiting for someone to reduce the battery pack by 50% ... how much charge does 1 lap use?

    • @patrickryan2614
      @patrickryan2614 4 місяці тому +1

      They should make a 2dr track car with 75% removable battery you just drop down on a jack and switch over to a high performance lightweight track pack! Drive to the track on the other 75% and back home no problem, but your droping like 800lbs off of it! Those 80kw packs weight in around 1000lbs. 20KW would be enough to get you a couple of laps. Just increase the cooling a bit to make up for higher discharge speeds and temps.

    • @DzeiEidz
      @DzeiEidz 4 місяці тому

      The problem would be the discharge rate of the half-pack. It would be like taking a megawatt out of a full pack. They can do it, but very risky. Of course in record attempts it doesn't matter if the pack dies doing it.

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA 4 місяці тому

      There's a business opportunity if NIO ever comes to the states with their removable/swappable battery packs. An entrepreneur could rent race ready / off road use only packs.

    • @EwanM11
      @EwanM11 4 місяці тому +2

      ​​@@patrickryan2614batteries don't work like a petrol tank. Power scales with pack size, all else being equal. 25% pack size = 25% power. This is why hybrids have 100hp electric motors. M3P is already battery limited.

    • @solarguy4850
      @solarguy4850 4 місяці тому +1

      @@DzeiEidz Just use a different chemistry for race .. fast discharge / low kWh would be fine.

  • @justinkase1360
    @justinkase1360 Місяць тому

    Imagine if this car had plaid motors...I wish it was possible or that someone had already done it.

  • @tobycyril780
    @tobycyril780 4 місяці тому +2

    1:33 is good laptime but not supercar laptime.
    sub30 is supercar laptime territory (GT3RS and Mclaren LT)

    • @georgepelton5645
      @georgepelton5645 4 місяці тому +1

      How do the older supercars compare? Greats like Lamborghini Miura, Ferrari F50, Porsche 959, etc?

    • @tobycyril780
      @tobycyril780 4 місяці тому +2

      @@georgepelton5645 they are slower.

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 3 місяці тому +1

      I don't know anything about the Mclaren, but in all fairness, the GT3 is an out and out racing car. You'd expect it to be faster, regardless of the power deficit.

  • @aussiegruber86
    @aussiegruber86 3 місяці тому

    Need the Plaid

  • @24ecko
    @24ecko 3 місяці тому

    Its so amusing seeing a toaster going around the track 😂

  • @drewanderson427
    @drewanderson427 3 місяці тому

    Drop fronts by 2 psi

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 3 місяці тому

      And add an inch or two of rubber, if it can be done. It just pushes so hard, even late into the exit.

  • @Fitforacting
    @Fitforacting 3 місяці тому

    This VS Hyundai Ioniq 5N! 😮

  • @BeyondTheApexMotorsport
    @BeyondTheApexMotorsport 3 місяці тому

    Yeah this honestly is not a very ideal car to drive on a track unless you can figure out some way to fix that oversteer. This dude put down a really solid time but it's clear in the video there is a lot to be gained with a better setup. He just needed way more turn in but I don't know how trailbreaking works in a Tesla

  • @deathandtaxes8949
    @deathandtaxes8949 4 місяці тому +2

    Try running Sonoma where the power can't save you :)

    • @mikaelvellmun7228
      @mikaelvellmun7228 4 місяці тому +3

      cope

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      there are plenty videos of sonoma model 3 P, ev wins everything hands down, it's just a matter of time now.
      check out the taycan turbo GT as porsche said they have no ICE car able to beat that thing.

  • @redvivid
    @redvivid 3 місяці тому +1

    Freaky ah tesla is a Understeer god..

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      no you can change to your liking in either direction, treack mode allows all kinds of settings like this.

    • @redvivid
      @redvivid 3 місяці тому

      @@JohnSmith-pn2vl doesn't really matter when it's weight is it's downfall.

  • @rarelyaccurate6252
    @rarelyaccurate6252 4 місяці тому +1

    It's amazing how capable this car is at that price point

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      BMW M3 who ?

    • @garosama4517
      @garosama4517 4 місяці тому

      ​@@markplott4820Faster.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      @@garosama4517 - SUPERIOR in every way.
      ICE is the PAST paradigm .
      TESLA is the NEW Benchmark.

    • @garosama4517
      @garosama4517 3 місяці тому

      @@markplott4820 Tesla doesnt hold a single production record lol. Tesla is slow.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 3 місяці тому

      @@garosama4517 - Tesla since model S , outproduce everyone in EV market.
      and with revenue & profits.
      Tesla sells the most EV on EARTH. w/ record profits & revenue.
      no one else is making profits & revenue on EVs.
      and many even have massive losses on FCF - free cash flow.....lol.

  • @kjwong4730
    @kjwong4730 3 місяці тому +1

    lol I didn’t realize how fast gas cars were until I watched this

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому +1

      you mean like 10 seconds slower than this like the BMW M3 for example ? :)

  • @bigscreenadz8225
    @bigscreenadz8225 3 місяці тому

    Yum,... And have you seen this?... Seduction Of Democracy book,... Whoa,... It basically tells you who is going to win and why,...

  • @bearlemley
    @bearlemley 4 місяці тому

    still 10 seconds slower than the Model S

  • @dpie4859
    @dpie4859 4 місяці тому +2

    Anticlimactic see how it got crushed by the green car.

  • @mikapeltokorpi7671
    @mikapeltokorpi7671 3 місяці тому

    When you start to compare to yourself, you are screwed. This was nowhere near Taycan GT lap record.

    • @zackfeldstein4140
      @zackfeldstein4140 3 місяці тому

      Because maybe the Taycan Turbo GT costs 6x as much you bafoon.
      This is a $47,000 car, not a $250,000 one.

  • @w1llizm
    @w1llizm 3 місяці тому

    So annoying that Camaro was holding you up. And you were in the dirty air.

  • @NasaRacer
    @NasaRacer 4 місяці тому +1

    Now run at least 9 more laps in a row and give us an average time.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      it can't handle that, this car is not made for the track but sporty legal street driving.
      cooling is the problem in ev's, while normal car's need like little to no cooling, a racing ev has so much power it is all about cooling.
      taycan turbo gt is made for the track, it can handle it, check it out.

  • @patatr4943
    @patatr4943 3 місяці тому

    🤣

  • @muffnxman
    @muffnxman 4 місяці тому +2

    Your racing line is not so great

  • @nabushdinosaure
    @nabushdinosaure 4 місяці тому +1

    That Camaro absolutely destroyed you on the first lap on CUP2R though ^^. He was probably sub 30's...

    • @FromWhereICharge
      @FromWhereICharge 4 місяці тому +14

      That was a full spec race car on slicks with much more power. It was fast no doubt.

    • @cardonman
      @cardonman 4 місяці тому +4

      Well he was in a hurry to get his oil changed!🤦🏽

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому

      the Camaro is outdated and UNSUSTAINABLE.

    • @nabushdinosaure
      @nabushdinosaure 4 місяці тому +1

      @@markplott4820 For the purpose of going fast around a track it's a way better car though... The Tesla is less unsustainable, but still unsustainable anyway. Tesla (Plaid) and Corvette owner here, doing AutoX and roadcourse with both...

  • @jagpilotohio
    @jagpilotohio 3 місяці тому

    Tesla doesn’t exist to me as long as Elmo is in charge of the company. Boycott Tesla.

  • @zooker7507
    @zooker7507 4 місяці тому +1

    I gotta bail this run, because I gotta charge it again. Ugh, 3 laps and then I gotta charge it I should have bought a gas car. ;(

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 4 місяці тому +1

      TESLA can do 5 laps .
      Tesla completed PIKES PEAK 2024, and WON.

    • @zooker7507
      @zooker7507 4 місяці тому +2

      @@markplott4820 yep, 12 miles that's about all you get when the charge anxiety kicks in. haha

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      @@zooker7507 this is not true at all, batteries last longer than tires, this car is not made for the track anyway.

    • @zooker7507
      @zooker7507 3 місяці тому

      none of the battery powered cars are made for the track. Their as good as their charge range and that's it. No one is going to sit in the pit lane while they charge and be competitive. It's a joke really when you imply that there is a EV that is made for track racing.

  • @believein1
    @believein1 3 місяці тому

    Compare EV to EV and ICE engine cars to ICE engine cars.
    Don’t be simple headed and act like you can’t understand the difference between the two.
    I would love to see it go against a Lucid or Mercedes One.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl 3 місяці тому

      ev wins all the time on everything, that is as obvious as it get's.

    • @Felipe_2008_Mclaren
      @Felipe_2008_Mclaren 26 днів тому

      ​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Amg One 😂 Is a Joke.
      Amg one>Rimac Nevera in Trackday