31. How can I bend copper tubing
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2016
- This is the way I've been bending copper tubing since I've been doing machine repair work, it's a process that I've never seen anyone do before and the few people I've told about it have never heard of it or seen it done. So if you need any help, instructions, or a little confidence send me an email at jimsfixshop@gmail.com or jandrwoodworking2@gmail.com and I'll help you out if I can, and remember as always work safe and have fun Jim
Please ask questions in the comments. I am transitioning away from email. This way, people can get help from others' questions. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. I’m over 80 years old and I still remember my father showing me this technique when I was a teenager.
The soft copper I made from 10 foot 3/4" hard copper was 4 X cheaper. Hardware didn't offer soft coil past 3/8" and even that was expansive😃
I used to do these kind of things. When I served my apprenticeship I worked with some very skillful older guys, and I just wanted to learn and they were happy to teach.
I got asked a question in an interview once, basically how to bend a plastic pipe into an unorthodox 'set'. I wasn't long out of my time and the 2 guys interviewing me gave each other that 'glance' when I answered, I don't think they were expecting me to know. I didn't get the job, but out of 75 people invited in for an initial skills test, I was down to the final 3, the other 2 were contractors already working in the plant and one of those got the job. I realised my value early on, thanks those guys to took an interest in teaching me things the right way as opposed to the fast way.
I'm one of those older guys now, and I love showing/sharing these type of things to anyone who wants to learn.
Every days a school day, and even the 1st year apprentice can teach an old dog something if he's worked on a particular bit of kit you haven't come across yet.
Interesting video 👍
As soon as you showed the ends were crimped, I knew the secret, in fact I paused to make this comment. It is genius, pure genius. I love it!
Well I’m glad you like it and I can’t take all the credit in the old boy Showed me that over 40 years ago, keep watching and hopefully I can talk you into subscribing. Jim
Just in case no one has informed your wife yet, you ARE the smartest man on the internet for this little gem... There's actually a skill to looking at existing solutions, abstracting out the principles involved, and then realizing there's a simpler, cheaper, and better way to apply them to get the same, or better, result. This is a perfect example of it. Good stuff.
Fantastic! 👌🏼
This is what UA-cam is ment to be.
I saw another guy use water 👍 will be trying that this week and will let the group know
Very cool, thanks for the info! Those "worthless tools" are still useful for installing a run of refrigeration tubing though. I just put a mini split system with a 25' run of copper refrigeration tubing, had 4 90 degree bends at various locations on its journey between the evaporator coil and condenser coil. I was grateful for my $10 tube bender from Harbor Freight, worth every penny. I would want to put sand in a 25' run of refrigeration tubing, wouldn't really be practical and would be a pain to evacuate when it comes time to pull a vacuum. But for other applications, this is a very nice technique.
Jim, Neat trick and you had me hanging on the edge of my seat. I need to bend some 5/8” for a new gas furnace and unfortunately it’s 50’ long and overhead but great idea for small projects. Now I know how to make a moonshine still, lol
You know where I first learned this trick? Watching the Jimmy Stewart movie, Flight of the Phoenix. The designer of the plane they were recreating was making a water distiller for potable water. In order to cool the steam from the distiller, he needed a coil of copper pipe. When someone asked why he was putting desert sand in the copper pipe, he replied it was needed to prevent kinks. I was just a kid, but that little trick stuck with me.
Man I miss people like you. So helpful, thanks very much!
I didn't expect that idea. That is pretty cool way to do it.
That's how I make cooling tubes for rc boat motors, dad and grandfather were plumbers and showed me how 40 years ago
Why not pass on your secrets instead of taking them with you when you go??? I don't think I've ever heard anybody say something that made more sense to me than that. Very nicely put sir, if only the world had more people that thought the way you do.....👍👍👍👍👍
rick dalton
Hi Rick, I guess that's exactly why I started this channel to pass things on and help people out. Oh yeah don't forget to subscribe, talk to you soon Jim
Jim Jackson hey I watched your video a couple times and what really caught my attention was you telling the story about the guy that used a lathe to make his coils. I had never heard of that before nor had I heard of the sand technique so what I ended up doing was kind of a mixture of both. I didn't have any scrap Diamond blast so I took some regular play sand from Home Depot and sifted it twice until it was very fine. After that I put it in the oven I have out in the shop for about 3 hours to make sure all the moisture was out of it. I have a granite 3 in 1 so I chucked up a scrap piece of 1 inch steel gas pipe and I coiled a 50 foot box of 3/8 copper tubing into an unbelievably tight Helix style double coil with no crimps anywhere. Your method Works flawlessly. Thanks again for taking the time to make this video and I will definitely be subscribing to your channel
Jim Jackson this is exactly what I was looking for Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Does this method require soft coil tubing? because I need to bend up obsolete 5/8 coolant tubes for old car. thanks
The younger generation hates us. They are going to park us all in old folks homes and a robot is going to periodically roll by and throw slop at us daily and point a fire hose at us weekly until they use us as fertilizer to grow kale. Our generation will have set it all up for them.
at first it was kind of boring bcoz you talk so much but at the end it was awesome. very nice technique. thank you.
Wow.... this is an amazingly simple and effective technique. I was looking exactly for something like this because rather than use copper tubing for mechanical applications, I am using it for artistic reasons. Artists often do not give up their secrets so nobody that did copper tubing work would share with me how they made such amazingly elaborate designs. Now I know how they did it. So wow, I am extremely thankful that you shared this technique as I thought I would need to get a butane torch or something. This saves HOURS if not Days of work to do what I had in mind. I plan on getting to work right away after I buy some tubing and a bag of sand from the hardware store. :)
This video is appreciated for a younger guy like me.
great skill set to pass down, Thank you!
I just found your video while looking for some sort of review on what tool to buy to bend copper break pipe into decorative shapes, you just solved all my problems in one, thank you so much for that, but most of all I admire your attitude towards giving people help.
David Pearson
Hi David it's Jim
Glad you like my idea I hope it works out for you I hope your subscriber as I've got a few more tips I'm going to be putting on line soon. Talk to you later Jim
Good info, wonder if my ancestors used this technique back in the hills when they built their distillery equipment.
Thank you Jim, very helpful.
I really appreciate what your doing.
Makes all the sense in the world, thank you for sharing
That is so good to know . I thank you and the "old man" who showed you. God bless.
James P Bergeron
Hi James
Yes it is great that some people enjoy sharing their knowledge with others. Jim
Mr.Jim you are the best thanks for you insight
Well you’re welcome if there’s anything else I can help you with just let me know. Jim
That's absolutely brilliant!
Pretty cool, just a great thing to know, thanks for that old timer knowledge!
@Jim Jackson
Thank you very much sir
This is what I'm looking for
God bless you!
I thought this was going to be a This Old House episode. The thumbnail picture looks just like Norm Abrams. Good video sir. Thanks
I just came across your channel & saw this copper bending trick & I wanted to say thank you!! 😊
I just subscribed & I am looking to see what other words of wisdom you're sharing in your other videos!!
Thanks again!! ❤
Theresa
I just told a friend of mine who makes miniature railway and boat steam engines. He was blown away....
Great tip Jim, Thanks!
Great Video. I tried it and it worked perfect.
Thank you very much you've answered a lot of questions and your advice helped me.
Well thanks for being a viewer and I hope your subscriber. Jim
This is Jim... winner of the "Norm Abram" lookalike contest 30 years in a row.
HeavySetSouthernGentleman
Actually he’s just a distant cousin. Jim
@@jimjackson9381 Awesome! Been watching him since '79 on This Old House. Big fan... take care.
That is freakin' brilliant. Thanks, mate.
Thanks Jim, only needed to bend a piece of 10mm pipe,it was to small for the bending spring that I borrowed,I just robbed some sand from my dogs sandpit and it worked a treat, cheers 👍💯
Thank you sir...I will use this idea tomorrow.
Brilliant! Thanks, Jim!
Thanks Jim, you just saved me a pile of $ and time.
Thank you - so easy and effective - great
Good advice, thanks for sharing. My thoughts are that once you get your tubing bent to whatever desired shape that you want, if it’s really tight bends then it may be almost impossible to get all of the sand particles out of the tubing.
That’s why I also like the idea of filling it with water and freezing it and then do your bends. Once you are finished, you simply let the water inside melt and then you just pour it out. Then you just blow it out with air or you can use some alcohol to completely dry it out if your doing brake lines. So with your advice and different ideas from other sources eventually we will really master all these little tricks of doing things
Wow awesome trick, just subscribed. Love this, thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thanks Jiim, another great tip.
Thank you for sharing this video Jim. I really appreciate craftsman such as yourself who post this type of useful information. I was attempting to bend 1/4" OD copper tubing today using a handheld tubing bender and it kept kinking. I was considering crimping the end, filling it with lead, then bending it but I ran out of time. At work we order stainless tubing lines with compound bends that are 3/8" and 1/2" OD. The company who makes these for us fills the tubing with a fusible alloy before bending the melts out the alloy afterward. Jim, I have a background in tool and die; both as a machinist and the as a tooling designer. I look forward to more of your videos. God bless,
E.PLUMBUS UNUM
Well thank you for watching and I hope your subscriber I could use your help in that department, and if you have any other issues or questions please let me know. Jim
@@jimjackson9381is there a best sand to use for this job?
@@vincegray996 no any clean dry sand will work Beach sand works good. Jim
I was apprenticed in 1977, was taught how to do this on a foundry with mild steel pipe. You would turn the ends into a screw and cap each end once filled with sand, (the same I think as yours but can't recall exactly). Best days of my life, never finished my apprenticeship the recession ensured that. I never thought to use it for copper, I am doing a stovepipe heat exchanger and this will work very well, thank you. You can also use water as a filler but its fiddly.
Hello Jim, super thanks from Singapore!
Danny Tan
Hi Danny
Well I’ve certainly never reached anybody that far away before are you actually in Singapore and how did I help you In what you were doing. I would like to know thanks Jim
I love listening to your old schoolers if I could say it that way awesome can't wait to use it
I really like your ideas. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
wilibaldo sierra
Well you’re welcome I hope you Get some good use from it. I hope your subscriber I need your help. Jim
Did it the way you s@id and it worked perfect. I am making a mosquito foggier and it looks great.. Thanks....
Fantastic sharing! Thank you.
Thank you kindly. I read about using sand to bend steel about 50 years ago in a Popular Mechanics magazine, but that was with heat. This has solved a problem for me - the secret is in the fine garnet from the sandblaster.
No not really you can use beach sand as long as it’s clean and dry it doesn’t have to be from a sandblaster I use that because it’s available we throw it away every day. Jim
Amazing ! I'll try this out ! I'm building a heater for my pool and I needed to know how to coil copper tubing ! Thankx for th trick dude ! 😀
Thanks for the video and the technique.
Thank you, this is great skill.
Very cool sir, thank you so much.
Thank you Mr. Jackson !!! I am a Union Pipefitter and will use your technique in my future.
Gerald Velasco
Well I’m glad I can help you thanks for watching hope your subscriber talk to you soon Jim
I learned this trick from an old Jimmy Stewart movie about an air crash in the desert, it was called "Flight Of The Phoenix". They used this trick to bend up metal hydraulics line into a still coil. I always wondered how well it worked outside of Hollywood, now I know!
PS: don't even think about watching the newer remake of that movie, it was awful.
@@keithklassen5320 Well thanks for the tip on the movie, and it does work. Jim
I just spend $150 dls on some tool that didn't work, WHY I DIDNT SEE THIS BEFORE ????? THANK YOU FOR PASSING YOUR SECRET FROM THAT OLD MAN....I WILLL DO THE SAME ....THANK YOU SO MUCH SR GOD BLESS YOU!!
avdiablo
Sorry about that I hope my idea works out for you. Jim
Sir, I really enjoyed your video. Wished I seen it sooner because just today I ordered one of those coiling tools with 5 different sized springs to use to coil the common 5 copper tube sizes. I can see that your way is better and I could have saved my money. Would like to learn more, so when you have time, keep the videos coming. Thank you.
Nice trick. I've heared that this works, but never tried myself.
You look a lot like Norm Abram. Probably just as smart as him too. Thanks for the tip.
Well thanks for watching and glad I can help hope your a subscriber it helps me. Jim
God bless you! Many blessings to you!
Excellent, just what I needed. Thanks.
You’re welcome and thanks for watching don’t forget to subscribe. Jim
This must have been an eye-opener where you went to work. There are those who know things or figure things out that most of us never think about, and they stand out. The 2% crowd. I think this fits that category. My Dad always impressed me that way. He was born in 1915 and grew up fixing things. He loved model A's and T's. If it was mechanical he could figure out how it worked and fix it. He knew how to build with concrete blocks, pour concrete floors and walks, build houses ( he built the house I grew up in), was a really good auto mechanic. I learned a lot from him even though I wasn't trying to.
Charlie Wilson
My dad was born in 1907 and he has like yours he grew up repairing things went to work for a company and then quit and went on his own and started his own heating and air-conditioning business, he passed away when I was 10 so I couldn’t take the business over like I planned on but I got my work ethics from him, I worked for him for about 4 1/2 years yup I said 4 1/2 years I started when I was 5 1/2 and when I got out of school he would swing around and pick me up I guess I was his gopher he would tell me what he needed in a line of tools and parts and I would run out to the truck and get them I guess that’s why I enjoy fixing things today, looking back on that experience I guess I should’ve paid a little more attention to school and not as much running parts but I think I probably learn more working with him that I missed from school. I guess if I could do it over again I wouldn’t change a thing, the things I have learned from him I try to pass on to others but the kids today don’t seem to want to fix anything they would just rather buy new so I turn to UA-cam at least I hope I am helping some and rest well I guess I just hope I’m entertaining them a little bit. Jim
@@jimjackson9381 Sounds like your Dad and mine were in the same category. My only regret is that I wish I would have been more interested in the things he was doing and would have paid more attention to learning what he could teach me.
Thanks jim. Now u will help people forever n your old friend too!
Well all my subscribers and viewers are my friends and I always ask them to send me a picture of themselves sitting on their snapper to hang on my wall of friends. Jim
@@jimjackson9381 my sand was regular sand because i didn't have sand blast sand and i failed :( but one of these days i will succeed. Thank you
@@goddessofkratos Regular sand will work fine as long as it’s clean and dry if it’s kinking then you don’t have the sand packed tight enough in the tube. Jim
Thank-you for posting. I appreciate it
Andrew Lloyd
Hi Andrew
Well thank you for watching and that’s why I’m doing this is to try to help people, I hope your subscriber it is free to subscribe I wouldn’t want you to miss any upcoming tips or tricks. Talk to you soon Jim
thanks for the video
Thank you this helped a bunch!!!
Fantastic tips!
In a few words, you are great. Thank you
Well thank you and so is all of my viewers. Jim
Thank you. Great tip
Been doing it that way for 51 years,works well
This is a very cool a trick! Here's another: Anneal the tube first for super easy bending.
this was great thank you
Very honest straight to point thank you sir
This is great Thanks Jim
thanks so much mr jems
Can’t wait to try this
GAH LEE He did not have to flex on us that hard!! Absolutely awesome video thanks for sharing will definitely practice
Great video
I remember using this technique 50 years ago when building model airplanes and bending fuel lines. These days we still use it in the hobby to bend tubing when required. These days there's some vendors selling what appears to be nylon or teflon rod that the dimensioned for the most popular I.D.'s used for tubing and the rod is slid into the tubing and after bending can be pulled out, however, I'm not sure it would work for making a coil.
You are a genius. Thanks.
Great tips.. thanks!
Thank you for this tip!
You’re welcome let me know how it works out for you. Jim
Great tip thank you
Thank You, great tip
Thanks good man it is fantastic ideas
We did this with all our steel pipes back 60 years. Now we have " soft" copper.
This is such a great video. 😆
Awesome video!!!! Thanks for sharing. Im ready to bend some complex curves now. I love old-timer tricks and the old-timer who taught this to you certainly knew how do to things without all the fancy tools we have at our disposal today.
On a side note, has anyone ever told you that you slightly resemble Norm Abrahm from This Old House (especially with the classic Plaid shirt LOL)? I thought Norm was posting a video and confused that he was doing plumbing work. ha-ha
I think I’ve heard that a timer too especially when I have my flannels on. Jim
Thanks! I have to bend a 10ft half inch copper pipe and I was not sure how but I’m going to try this awesome trick thank you
Well let me know how it works out for you. Jim
It worked very well no kinks! I did have some cracks because of the size pipe so I ended up using a torch to heat it up at the place I was bending it. That worked to fix the cracks. Thanks again.
Nice Jim ! Thanks for these vids and the tips and trade secrets. I wonder if paving sand would work?
Thank you sir very helpful
Great tip! Could you use fine salt or fine sand instead of used sandblast sand? Thanks for taking the time to make this video and share this idea!
Yea! Learning to coil to make a rain chain, thank you!
Ada Holmes
Hi it’s Jim
You’re going to have to show me what a rain chain is. Thanks Jim
Great video. Worked great for a few bends I needed in 1/4 copper.
Hi it’s Jim
What size of copper tubing are you or were you trying to bend when you only got a few coils. Thanks Jim
@@jimjackson9381 1/4 copper for an RV propane furnace. Thanks again for the tips.
mark babcock
Hi Mark
So you’re all set and got it bent or do you need help. Jim
@@jimjackson9381 Got it taken care of. Thanks Jim.
Also useful for condenser coils in moonshining. My tube was 10 mm outer diameter and was coiled without flattening around a bottle. But my still is not finished (intended for grapes).
Hey when you get it done send me some pictures I’d like to see it my email is Jimsfixitshop@gmail.com
Thanks. Jim
Thank you.
This is helpful thx
That's what it's about! Wisdom. Thank you!
You’re welcome, thank for watching. Jim
brilliant mate