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Seriously, what is it with fathers and their daughters' sexuality. Boys can become mashers, but women must be chaste? Makes me wish guys understood how it feels.
A friend grew up religious and so I talked about these movies with her, cause we tend to watch channels that will review them. I sent a few that they had recognized and many were just from having to watch them in church.
"divorce is like cancer, taking from us the people that we love." If your dad stops talking to you after the divorce, that's not him being taken from you, that's him being a shitty dad who can't even bother to call or text once you aren't in his immediate vicinity anymore. Your parents don't die when they divorce, they just stop hanging out. And if you've reached the point where you're divorcing your partner, clearly you don't really love them that much anymore (or you do in an unhealthy co-dependent way because everything else is just so bad you can't take it anymore despite how much you love them) That is such a stupid take. Did a fourteen year old write this movie?
yeah, that line... is heinous. in so many ways. somehow manages to be insulting towards people who choose divorce, people who have divorced parents, people who suffer from cancer or know someone who does... it's just not in any way a fair or comporable comparison. not just bc the divorced are NOT dead, but also bc the divorced did choose to do it, mayhaps for the better of their entire family, whereas cancer very much happens to you. divorced parents could remarry, which may be for the better or worse. that doesn't exactly work with cancer that's taken someone you loved.
That‘s exactly it. This idea that divorce is bad cause you are breaking a love bond is ridiculous. Divorce happens when love is out the door. Not the other way around. And as a person who had my parent run off basically and go non contact after not really trying, I can also say that it is unrealistic af to put blame on the divorce. My dad chose to take my parent away from me by cutting off contact after I didn‘t do it the way he wanted to and asked for more patience from him. We all make our own choices. And if it‘s that easy to abandon your child for the sake of being with another woman and her kids, and also you refuse to pay a dime of child support as well, you‘re the problem. Not the fact divorce exists. Ppl need to stop protecting bad ppl and bad parents. Cause everyone is reaponsible for the way they treat others. And throwing your kid away the moment you are not living with them anymore and them asking you for just a fraction if patience, you are just a terrible parent. It‘s as easy as that.
wild that they tried to use a girl getting attacked as an argument against sex when the reason she got attacked was because she refused. like, are they trying to say that if the girl was a virgin and refused, she wouldnt have gotten attacked? cuz i have literally been in that exact position before and me being a virgin def didnt make any difference. the dude still punched me when i didnt respond to his advances
@@oakleyves they must not know very many women cuz any woman can tell you, men will target you no matter where you are, your age, your clothes, your body type, and without knowing a single thing about your sexual history. if that was their logic, it's based on a delusion that women and girls somehow call violence upon themselves
Also if you wanna make divorce look bad, maybe don't make the guy whose wife left him the worst character in the movie, he wasn't a great argument for sticking together.
The way she said “I can’t imagine sex being any better than this” while embraced in the most awkward hug ever sent me 😭☠️ are we sure this isn’t a comedy?
As dumb as it is, I can absolutely see it. I'm just crushing on a guy super hard right now as a long-distance thing, and I literally don't think we'd be able to hug without me blushing and fangirling out like a mother-fucker. There's times where I lose it just talking to him, lol! Better than sex? Probably not. But when some people are down bad, they get SUPER down bad! Never underestimate just how nuts non-horny romantic attraction can be!
I kinda hate that, for all the awkwardness of it, I resonated with that feeling. A nice, conforting and warm hug can often be better tan having muffins.
@@misteraskman3668 I agree, the actors' chemistry definitely didn't sell the sentiment, but a good hug from someone you feel safe with is a lot better than awkward sex. Granted, it probably wouldn't be awkward with a person you enjoy hugging so much, but out of the entire movie this was the scene that felt most realistic since these two characters are obviously not ready for sexual intimacy, so seeing them enjoy a hug so much was very sweet
Something I just love is when these kinds of religious people are like "Don't have sex!" but then when they find out someone is asexual they get pissed about that. You're only allowed to not have sex if not having it makes you feel bad.
"You're gonna feel A LOT of temptation as you get older, but it's important to abstain from-" "Wow, I must be an uber Christian because I've never been tempted in my life! "... What do mean you don't think so? It's basically biblical law. You HAVE TO." "I thought the whole point was to not have sex." "No, the whole point to bottle up your urges until you jump into an unhappy marriage just for a chance to finally have sex." "... And this is a good thing?" "Be fruitful and multiply, baby 😎"
Absolutely! I can't believe how much trouble I got in when I came out as ace to my parents as a teenager! It's a good thing I had already disowned my entire family by the time I realized I was trans, and before HRT changed my sexuality to bisexual. 😅
@@illithiddynobolt5613istg every trans person says HRT made them bisexual, what happens if you're already bi and you go on HRT, do you become extra bi???
Yeah, it's very very covert incesty. Super upsetting. I guess I do kind of have to give the movie points for making it a father and his child usually it's the mother and her child where covert incest happens in media.... Still super gross and uncomfortable but yeah points for originality, I guess 🤷♀️😫
tbh I've had that exact moment with my dad way too many times. When I was 14-18, I had to cook him a hot meal 3x per day. I don't usually have trouble with religious trauma from these types of videos, but that really hit me hard. But it's really reassuring to hear that this is an unreasonable way for a parent to act.
Ya, my mom was disabled, so she didn’t have much ability to do housework. So, it was up to me and my brothers. I’m 47 and I hate cooking because I was expected to prepare dinner most of the time after I turned 11. My older brother did sometimes but he moved out when I was 12, and then it was up to me until I moved out. I definitely relate to that scene. And my dad didn’t even have a 9-5 job, but he basically told my mom when they married that he wasn’t going to help with cooking.
How seemlessly you kept the muffin thing going with "muffinality" and "homomuffinality" and "muffinalize" SENT me 😂 For real though, there was a lot of disturbing stuff that you talked about here, so thank you for bringing humor to it while discussing the dangers this kind of rhetoric brings! (And also just how WEIRD some of the rhetoric is!)
Willie definitely knows how to handle these topics walking a fine line of sincerity and humor. If I were still teaching Human Sexuality, I would definitely assign this video.
So bully girl does what the movie considers the right and moral thing by refusing to have muffins, and instead of being rewarded for making the right choice, she is permanently disfigured? I know inconsistent morality is standard operating procedure for Evangelicals but I really feel like they didn't think that one through.
In a better film, that story - combined with the bf coercing the teacher story - could have started a discussion on misogyny, and women facing a double-bind. Like, damned if you say yes, and damned if you say no.
I believe the movie's logic is that it happened to her because she had already lost her virginity. In religious circles like these, any negative thing that happens after you do a "bad" thing gets pinned as cosmic retribution. Fear/shame tactics. The movie is saying because she hooked up already, her spending time with guys alone made her vulnerable to attack. Religion doing some victim blaming. But you're also correct that they still write it in a way where the message is muddled and counter intuitive. Meant this in the spirit of expanding, not in any way a "correction" X-D
The youth group leader saying she got rid of her baby because she felt like she had no other choice because she couldn't tell her mom is really them telling on themselves. If she had muffin-positive parents and education, she would probably have felt more comfortable talking to her parents and would have had other options
Not to mention she was pressured into muffins to begin with, which is arguably the r-word. But it’s treated as if she “sinned” and was punished by a medical accident, after also being pressured into that. Yet the point was she’d been punished for her so called sin. Yuck.
you get over the not being allowed to date, it's the "When will you give me grandchildren and when will you marry?" once your over 25 and still socially awkward and had zero serious relationships that's just diabolical.
@@Zzz-ff1np Thankfully I don't get it from my family but I live in a religious area and I know so many people who got married and had a kid the second they turned 18.
It's wild that this movie thinks girls losing their virginity at 14 is so widespread. It really is not. Average age of first muffin is 17 according to Planned Parenthood.
The creators are just making up a problem to get their target audience more scared than they need to be. They get more money out of the audience that way.
44:40 that poor girl being attacked after refusing sex is really giving "you *can* change your ways but you're already a wretched creature who deserves suffering so get it now"
weird that this film actually used teenagers for its teenagers but then said they were 14 when they all look 17-18. just make them that age, 14 year olds don't care about muffins anyway, but I can definitely believe some sort of small-town ritual of "first muffin before graduating high school" or some nonsense like that
Honestly the age is kinda accurate to my experiences as a teen. I mean, I had convos like the church group scene at my youth groups at that age. And I also knew ppl who were active at that age. In fact, I remember being in a youth group “sex-ed” convo like that and someone asking what they can say to a non Christian friend who is thinking about being active to convince them not to, and telling my story about how I was trying to convince my friend not to have sex yet by telling him that he was better than that & some speal about self respect 😅 Yes, it’s less common than 16/17, but it’s definitely happening at 14 and sometimes earlier. I know ppl who’s first times were 11 or 12. I do think that’s too young for kids to make that choice but that being said, that’s exactly why the education is important from younger than many ppl want to think.
I knew a couple kids already doing it at 14, and my ex wife and her friends also were well before 14. It tends to be the kids that had nothing else to do and no one home
The labor laws about 14 year olds working are a bit stricter than 16 and 17 year olds. And I also, think they felt the topic was too adult to actually discuss around real 14 year olds. There is a strong belief that if you never mention something around a child they will never have curiosity about it. As if biology just disappears if you don't talk about it.
17:55 It's creepy that he's referring to her as the "Woman of the House". It's creepy we have gendered roles for kids when a parent is away or dead. 17:56 Can't the guy cook for himself and his daughter? He's the adult, not his daughter! 30:31 I blame the overbearing, "sex on the couch" dad for getting his daughter involved with the neighbor who just seems like a cult leader.
Right, it's SO creepy. It's on the same line as those movies/shows that call the 12 year old son the man of the house when his dad goes off to war and the mother starts asking his opinions on adult matters and acting as if his input is the most important and the last word on the matter while at the same time putting pressure on him to take care of the family.
"To resist those temptations when they come. And believe me, they will come." Me, an asexual, waiting twenty seven years for those temptations to come.
I’m convinced that saint Peter was completely ace, his writings make me think that there was no temptation to avoid so a vow of celibacy was like a vow to breathe
@@johnbrewington2539lmao I always wonder if the majority of nuns or monks in the olden days were just ace and were able to give up "muffins" for life because they genuinely didn't desire it.
@@queencleopatra007 or, in some instances, gay and very much engaging in it behind closed doors "men love men, women women; so if I move into a house with 50 guys, there won't be any temptation. *wink*"
In my 20s i was apart of a group comprised of actors and med students that would go to middle and high schools and educate them about STDs and sex in general. All the while having to continuously say that abstinence was the only surefire way to prevent STDs and pregnancy. I will never forget about the high school group that asked me and my med student partner if we were virgins since we kept harping on abstinence. My counterpart was and openly admitted it.... Then he looked at me. All I could say was "let's move on.." abstinence only education is so frustrating but I'm thankful the program I was apart of was able to fully educate the kids so long as we harped on abstinence being the BEST!!! The toughest part came when a little girl approached me in a middle school to essentially tell me she had been being harmed by her father and she was scared to death about being sick. That was a day I will never forget. I refused to leave until I knew for certain she felt safe with the teacher and school adminstrator that got involved right after I convinced her to allow me to help her approach her most trusted teacher about it.... It was an extremely heavy situation.... Abstinence only education made it so my hands were completely tied as far as telling these kids resources or educating them fully on contraception. It also won't allow you to do anything but act as though STDs are the worst thing that you could ever have... The program was amazing and did everything it possibly could and it was full of extremely clever and slick actors and med students who made the absolute most of it and I'm proud i was apart of it .... I just wish abstinence only education was done away with.....
That poor girl. That's awful and I'm sure it hangs over you, but I'm glad you were able to be there for her in a time when she'd been scared to talk to anyone else about it.
This is just another reason why age-appropriate sex ed is so important! People hear "sex ed for kindergarteners" and freak out, but if it's age appropriate, it would explain what "private" or "bathing suit" areas are and who is allowed to touch them and why (guardians and doctors to make sure you are healthy or if you need help getting clean) and if you ever feel uncomfortable about being touched, tell a trusted adult, and then another (preferably a teacher) until someone listens and helps you. It also touches on the difference between a secret and a surprise, and if someone threatens you to keep a secret, it's probably bad and you should tell someone. This is a super important message for littles!! They might not know what is happening to them is wrong, or be too scared to tell anyone without an outside adult giving them insight. But, not shocking that people who want to marry (or at least completely control their kids) want to hide this info from them...
@@HoneyBeeFlanzman I would add that using the proper words for things is EXTREMELY important. People can cry and whine about "robbing children of their innocence" by educating them, but I'd argue that nothing robs children like being SAed and not even having the words to accurately tell anyone and ask for help, or understand what was done to them.
@@katharineeavan9705 We only use the proper words for body parts and sex with our boys, so when they use other words we automatically know to ask who they heard that from. It’s extremely helpful to weed out misinformation!
@@katharineeavan9705yes! This happened in a school my mum was teaching at but a child kept complaining to his teacher that his uncle took his banana, and the teacher initially laughed it off being like "oh what a silly uncle" and after a few more times of this happening, the kid got more and more distressed so the teacher asked for more details and eventually realized his uncle was touching him, but the poor kid had never been equipped with even just the basic words to describe it and that poor kid had to suffer for longer bc of that :( My mum is a physiotherapist so she's always been a big advocate for using proper terminology for everything bc it's just biology. They aren't bad words, just the scientific ones, and teaching wrong words isn't doing any favours to anyone.
'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing'.... "Okay, genuinely, if they tried, I don't think that it's possible for them to have chosen a Worse quote to use...in order to preach abstinence." 😐🤣💀 Love you Willie
The funny thing is the story they wrote for that woman who was teaching abstinence is actually a perfect example of why comprehensive sex education is so important. Pretty much everything that went wrong in her story was from her lack of understanding about sex, pregnancy and abortion. Like she got pressured into sex because she wasn't actually taught about how it's a bad thing to do that and how important consent is, she got pregnant because they didn't know how to have safe sex, she didn't take the morning after pill because she didn't know about it. The abortion would literally be the only thing she did with full knowledge of what it meant because even if the boyfriend actually arranged everything, they discuss the procedure including the risks with the person getting it despite how the movie is trying to pretend. Imagine how completely differently her story would have turned out if she had been taught about sex properly, like protection, or how what her boyfriend was doing to try and pressure her into sex actually violates consent. It's infuriating.
Yeah, middle of the road walking kind of disqualifies them from humanity, but just for reference, in Sweden we are taught to walk on the left side of the road (into oncoming traffic) if there is no sidewalk, with the point being you can make eye contact with traffic and see if they've spotted you or not.
Here's another question - in sweden do kids have a rough idea what their parents car looks like? Because in this movie, she didn't know that was her dad until he put down the window X-D
Yes, same in the US. Bicycling is done with traffic because it's a vehicle and needs to follow the same rules of the road and walking is done against traffic so you can see incoming cars and at least attempt to get out of the way should they swerve to the shoulder.
@@Itmustbe_bunniesI assume that Willie never was taught how to walk on a road that didn't have sidewalks? because that would be a good explanation for why you would expect the standard side of the road
Not everyone needs to join their school band but I do believe everyone should try an instrument or two on their own to at least see if they've got an affinity for music of any kind.
The church lady both saying “would you want to have to tell god on judgement day why you didn’t help fight? I wouldn’t” in regard to fornication as a sin, AND telling a sob story about how she gave in to temptation as a teenager is bizarre. Ma’am, if you think fornicators are damned, that means you believe *you* are damned. So there’s no “I wouldn’t” about it, because you *will* whether you want to or not. …I don’t think this is a very well-written movie, is what I’m saying.
Oh, but if she cries enough crocodile tears at teenagers, then obviously, she's redeemed! Just like how Karen is doing the lord's work and garunteeing her spot in heaven for yelling at a pair of same-sex teenagers for flaunting their homosexual (they're just friends) ways in a family restaurant (McDonald's).
@@Neku628 it's such a goofy argument too. Like, if you are perma-damned the very first time you yield to temptation, there's no reason not to just sin if you want to, because there's nothing you can do to recover. So the answer to that is that you can be absolved.... but if you can be cleansed or absolved, then what's the impetus to not do the sin in the first place? In fact, it's probably best to wait until you're at the end of your life to get forgiven of all your sins, so you can enjoy them through the course of your life. All they have is "you should feel guilty"
@@Romanticoutlaw I think the goal is to have people constantly be sinning (because everything is a sin) and then constantly begging for forgiveness because you never know when you're gonna die. And the best way to beg for forgiveness is to give the church money.
"When detractors say that abstinence doesn't really work, what they're saying is people have a hard time from abstaining" No, people don't say abstinence doesn't work. It's abstinence-only education that doesn't work. There is a key difference in those two things. Detractors to abstinence-only education criticize it because it is ineffective at discouraging kids from having sex and only serves to deny them actual education to make smart and informed decisions. They aren't criticizing the idea of being abstinent. To put it another way, it's like saying... water is healthy. Yeah, it is. No one would say water is inherently problematic. But if you tried forcing people to go on a water-only diet, people would rightfully point out that you can't live off ONLY water. That doesn't mean water is not healthy for you, it means that it's not the end-all be-all to dietary needs. In the same sense, abstinence can work for some people, but if you deny them all forms of education because you insist this is the ONLY one they need, you find out real quick that it doesn't work like that. Maybe some kids will listen but most will slip through your fingers. Actual comprehensive sex ed is more of a deterrent than just saying 'abstinence is the best birth control'.
Willie! 1. Thank you for the new video and 2. I got two ribbons for knitting from the MN State Fair this year! You should enter some of your stuff in your state/county fair too!
9:52 I think he means that messed-up teenaged girls aren't an endangered species. I think he was written to not be very articulate and then miscast, so his lines make less sense than they should.
Willie in a beard pretending to be god listening to an overly enthusiastic follower talking about saying no to sex is the content I didn't know I needed 😂😂
A childhood friend pulled the switcharoo on me once, invited me to a kids event when it was really to watch one of these types of movies with her church. I’ll never not look at pinewood derby cars and not feel betrayal. And boredom.
I listened to 93% of this video before I realized you're up there just knitting away. If I wasn't already sold on subscribing for the dry yet witty humor (I was, can't lie), it was the knitting that did it for me as I was crocheting at the time of listening. Subscribed 🖤
As a missionary/ pastors kid, i have lots of religious trauma and videos like yours are a big help in my deconstruction. Never stop! Also, i love your speaking voice. You have such a fun cadence
I can’t tell you how many youth conventions and lock ins and Bible studies and campfire messages were like that meeting of the abstinence club when I was a teenager in the 90’s. And I went to a Christian high school, too, so I also heard it in chapel services and Bible classes. And yes, I’m still unpacking it in therapy.
43:42 All I hear when someone says, "There are consequences" or "There will be consequences!" is nothing but fearmongering and me shutting myself up like a nun at some convent.
I was surprised church lady had that kind of complication because Id imagine if she was that early she'd choose a medicine abortion over a surgical one? And the risk of infertility after a medicinal abortion is basically nonexistent. Surgical abortions carry a teeny tiny risk of complications like uterine perforation, which is of course awful. Childbirth carries a much larger risk of complications resulting in infertility
"Hal, it's about muffins." I'm told that in my middle school, there was a lot of talk about fourteen year olds having muffins. (I wouldn't know, I've always been a recluse and that's when my depression really kicked in (mostly unrelated).) My main concern has always been for their safety. We did have classes about safe sex, but those were locked behind parental consent; my parents were down with it, but I already knew all of that stuff because they'd told me. You're right that if kids aren't taught how to do it safely, they'll do it unsafely instead, especially when their puberties kick in. I'm demisexual, so I wasn't really concerned with it, but man did I play solos a lot. I was raised atheist. My parents were mostly concerned with keeping me safe and my curiosity sated, so when I asked something, they'd tell me. I still remember one time when I was reading a Calvin & Hobbes collection, looked up, and asked my dad what fingering was. He told me. I was very confused. Context: Calvin blamed something on Susie, and she got sent to the principle's office. He was thinking, "what if she squeals? What if she fingers me??" Initially, I didn't know what 'fingering' meant. Then I didn't know why Susie would do that or why Calvin wouldn't want it. After a minute, my mom asked me why I asked and I showed her, and she and dad laughed and explained that in that context it meant implicating Calvin in the thing he did. When I had my first girlfriend over, my dad took me aside to make sure that I had condoms and knew I could say no, particularly given that she was trans. (Long story short, we're still living together to this day.) I thought I had a point in all of that, but I've lost it. Oh well.
These characters would implode at the fact that I'm never getting married and not abstaining from muffins Actually the father would implode from the fact that my dad is able to cook
15:15 I like to imagine this as all metaphors. "This is harder than even a solo". So, harder than doing muffins alone by himself. But also he plays the flute, so you were right, he is gay. Cos you know, he blows the stick
Thank you Willie! I tried very hard to be a straight Christian woman at 14, and am now none of those things. I appreciate a look back at the type of stuff I was shown in evangelical youth group and health class with added commentary from a gay man with an outside perspective. Wow none of that shit was normal! I’m glad I’m not there anymore!
Another thing that creeps me out is the way some people treat any sort of erotic interaction as something that taints the romance. "I like ketchup and I like fries, but I don't want to taint my fries with the ketchup, so I keep my bottle of ketchup in a cooler with a padlock on it and only ever drink it when I absolutely crave it, that way my fries won't get tainted with the pleasant addition of another flavor that's intended to complement them."
I live near a military base and they happened to start playing Taps very loudly exactly aligned with the hand gesture @6:05. For a split second, I thought Willie had put it in the video on purpose and was cackling. Highly recommend recreating the experience.
I fully respect when people need to skip your Christian videos due to trauma. I have healed a lot and some things that used to trigger me don't anymore. Other things randomly do out of nowhere when they don't typically. Some things still do. That being said, when you make videos, personally I can always handle it. Your video essay rants are magnificent to me. I feel like I'm listening to a dear friend who is absolutely hilarious and filled with depth, kindness, and nuance. You're a comforting person, Willie. You make me feel safe enough to come to find healing for places that I still might need it, places that I definitely will always need community support regarding such topics. ❤ I appreciate you! You're funny and I appreciate how much time and energy you put into your videos. Thanks, internet stranger friend!
A friend of mine had that saw surgery you mentioned in college. He literally had his jaw wired shut and could only "eat" through a straw for WEEKS. Imagine putting Taco Bell burritos in the blender so you can consume something with a familiar taste. 😳 And I didn't even know how in the heck he brushed his teeth. 😭
That whole meeting scene was so bizarre. This adult woman asking children the questions they should be asking her, and her expecting them to just have the textbook answers. Is this a test? Is she quizzing them after weeks of study so she can send them to the abstinence competition?
Of course it doesn't, you stop being a person and become a servant to your husband, and whatever he wants you want too. So if he hits you you must have wanted it. And that's completely different from 24/7 slaveplay. Because slaveplay requires consent.
45:29 Not only didn't muffins do it but following their advice to not get muffins contributed to it. They're acting like it was her fault because she told the ah no, she didn't want muffins, that she got hurt. So the consequence of her not wanting muffins was getting hurt? The writer lost the plot here.
I went to Catholic school growing up, and they had a "purity conference" we all had to attend in 8th grade. It was one of only two "field trips" that year, the other was a bunch of Christian high schools advertising. But I remember there was this couple. The woman went through a bunch of trauma and "slept around" with a bunch of guys because her life sucked. And the guy waited until he married her. And while she was telling her story, he had the most condescending disappointed look on his face, and she was so clearly feeling guilty. I remember how many times she said she regretted her past and how glad she was that God and her husband had "forgiven" her. It was gross. They then ended the conference by handing out literal V-Cards we were supposed to sign. I remember thinking "what's the big deal, it's just sex" and "I know kind religious relatives have had premarital sex, so I don't think God actually cares." I still believed I would wait until marriage for the sheer reason that I didn't care. Luckily the Catholic High School ads didn't work, because I should have realized I was asexual sooner based on that alone 😂
So as soon as you said new t-shirt idea I paused the video, found your shop to see if the shirt was there and am now going to buy it. Thank you for all you do
31:24 also very important that the woman will not always be down for vanilla muffins either. matter of fact, there may be situations where an element of sprinkles, however small, may be the exact thing that would spur her interest, and without it she rather wouldn't have muffins at all. or where she simply isn't in the mood either which way. or your partner is ace and disinterested in all muffins or disinterested in muffins unless it happens under very specific circumstances. But nevermind that. Of course having only vanilla muffins is totally protecting the woman and stops her from having muffins she doesn't want...
it feels scary that one part of what is communicated to evangelical kids watching this is the idea that a malicious guy with a knife wouldn't cut you up for saying no to him so long as you said no for the reason the movie thinks is righteous
20:42 totally agree. My parents never forbid us from dating, made sure we knew the medical side of things, and there was always condoms in the hallway closet. It still was a big deal, but not a forbidden thing
Unironically, the best way to prevent teenage pregnancy/the spread of STIs is to teach kids/people about it as early as possible, and make it something NORMAL, not something forbidden or sinful. Not to mention providing free contraceptives/condoms/etc in many available locations. Any parents reading this comment: Teach Your Kids About Sex Before They "Learn" By Themselves.
I made the shirt:
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The T-shirt design this episode made me want is "MUFFINALITY" in the Mortal Kombat "Fatality" text.
Seriously, what is it with fathers and their daughters' sexuality. Boys can become mashers, but women must be chaste? Makes me wish guys understood how it feels.
I scrolled down specifically to leave a comment encouraging the creation of the shirt but Willie beat me to it, lets goooooo
Pour one out for the youth group that was 100% forced to watch this
*groups
poor little (gender neutral) dudes
A friend grew up religious and so I talked about these movies with her, cause we tend to watch channels that will review them. I sent a few that they had recognized and many were just from having to watch them in church.
Hopefully they had muffins to enjoy while watching.
"divorce is like cancer, taking from us the people that we love."
If your dad stops talking to you after the divorce, that's not him being taken from you, that's him being a shitty dad who can't even bother to call or text once you aren't in his immediate vicinity anymore. Your parents don't die when they divorce, they just stop hanging out. And if you've reached the point where you're divorcing your partner, clearly you don't really love them that much anymore (or you do in an unhealthy co-dependent way because everything else is just so bad you can't take it anymore despite how much you love them)
That is such a stupid take. Did a fourteen year old write this movie?
yeah, that line... is heinous. in so many ways. somehow manages to be insulting towards people who choose divorce, people who have divorced parents, people who suffer from cancer or know someone who does... it's just not in any way a fair or comporable comparison. not just bc the divorced are NOT dead, but also bc the divorced did choose to do it, mayhaps for the better of their entire family, whereas cancer very much happens to you. divorced parents could remarry, which may be for the better or worse. that doesn't exactly work with cancer that's taken someone you loved.
A fourteen year old with divorced parents
That‘s exactly it. This idea that divorce is bad cause you are breaking a love bond is ridiculous. Divorce happens when love is out the door. Not the other way around. And as a person who had my parent run off basically and go non contact after not really trying, I can also say that it is unrealistic af to put blame on the divorce. My dad chose to take my parent away from me by cutting off contact after I didn‘t do it the way he wanted to and asked for more patience from him. We all make our own choices. And if it‘s that easy to abandon your child for the sake of being with another woman and her kids, and also you refuse to pay a dime of child support as well, you‘re the problem. Not the fact divorce exists.
Ppl need to stop protecting bad ppl and bad parents. Cause everyone is reaponsible for the way they treat others. And throwing your kid away the moment you are not living with them anymore and them asking you for just a fraction if patience, you are just a terrible parent. It‘s as easy as that.
I laughed out loud when you said "presumably you believe at least one person got pregnant from abstaining"
for me it was "muffinality"
Tbh I think that shows how much it isn't about Jesus but controlling people
wild that they tried to use a girl getting attacked as an argument against sex when the reason she got attacked was because she refused. like, are they trying to say that if the girl was a virgin and refused, she wouldnt have gotten attacked? cuz i have literally been in that exact position before and me being a virgin def didnt make any difference. the dude still punched me when i didnt respond to his advances
i think their logic is that she was known to be easy which is why she was targeted by the guy
@@oakleyves they must not know very many women cuz any woman can tell you, men will target you no matter where you are, your age, your clothes, your body type, and without knowing a single thing about your sexual history. if that was their logic, it's based on a delusion that women and girls somehow call violence upon themselves
How is divorce like cancer you don’t fucking die when you get divorced LMAO 😭
I did... inside...
Something something your eternal soul
dont you know? everything that Christians say Is Bad will Lead To Death. Everything.
They sure love to catastrophize.
Also if you wanna make divorce look bad, maybe don't make the guy whose wife left him the worst character in the movie, he wasn't a great argument for sticking together.
They said that because they want people considering divorcing their spouse to associate that with cancer. It's fear-mongering, plain and simple.
The way she said “I can’t imagine sex being any better than this” while embraced in the most awkward hug ever sent me 😭☠️ are we sure this isn’t a comedy?
That moment gives such Heartstopper energy 😂
😂😂
As dumb as it is, I can absolutely see it. I'm just crushing on a guy super hard right now as a long-distance thing, and I literally don't think we'd be able to hug without me blushing and fangirling out like a mother-fucker. There's times where I lose it just talking to him, lol!
Better than sex? Probably not. But when some people are down bad, they get SUPER down bad! Never underestimate just how nuts non-horny romantic attraction can be!
I kinda hate that, for all the awkwardness of it, I resonated with that feeling.
A nice, conforting and warm hug can often be better tan having muffins.
@@misteraskman3668 I agree, the actors' chemistry definitely didn't sell the sentiment, but a good hug from someone you feel safe with is a lot better than awkward sex. Granted, it probably wouldn't be awkward with a person you enjoy hugging so much, but out of the entire movie this was the scene that felt most realistic since these two characters are obviously not ready for sexual intimacy, so seeing them enjoy a hug so much was very sweet
Something I just love is when these kinds of religious people are like "Don't have sex!" but then when they find out someone is asexual they get pissed about that. You're only allowed to not have sex if not having it makes you feel bad.
"You're gonna feel A LOT of temptation as you get older, but it's important to abstain from-"
"Wow, I must be an uber Christian because I've never been tempted in my life!
"... What do mean you don't think so? It's basically biblical law. You HAVE TO."
"I thought the whole point was to not have sex."
"No, the whole point to bottle up your urges until you jump into an unhappy marriage just for a chance to finally have sex."
"... And this is a good thing?"
"Be fruitful and multiply, baby 😎"
Absolutely! I can't believe how much trouble I got in when I came out as ace to my parents as a teenager!
It's a good thing I had already disowned my entire family by the time I realized I was trans, and before HRT changed my sexuality to bisexual. 😅
@@illithiddynobolt5613istg every trans person says HRT made them bisexual, what happens if you're already bi and you go on HRT, do you become extra bi???
@theflyingspaget I think so, yeah. I think you'd stay bi, but the newfound love of your body probably makes you a disaster bisexual. XD
HRT turned me from an asexual to a weirdly kinked asexual 🙏
So thats a yes
Can't even bdsm with my husband without God being pissed
The "Wheres my dinner" scene was genuinely really upsetting what the hell do you mean your 14 year old daughter needs to be your pseudo wife???
Seriously, part of my genuine reaction was “you are insane and a bad parent.”
Yeah, it's very very covert incesty. Super upsetting. I guess I do kind of have to give the movie points for making it a father and his child usually it's the mother and her child where covert incest happens in media.... Still super gross and uncomfortable but yeah points for originality, I guess 🤷♀️😫
tbh I've had that exact moment with my dad way too many times. When I was 14-18, I had to cook him a hot meal 3x per day. I don't usually have trouble with religious trauma from these types of videos, but that really hit me hard. But it's really reassuring to hear that this is an unreasonable way for a parent to act.
Ya, my mom was disabled, so she didn’t have much ability to do housework. So, it was up to me and my brothers. I’m 47 and I hate cooking because I was expected to prepare dinner most of the time after I turned 11. My older brother did sometimes but he moved out when I was 12, and then it was up to me until I moved out. I definitely relate to that scene. And my dad didn’t even have a 9-5 job, but he basically told my mom when they married that he wasn’t going to help with cooking.
How seemlessly you kept the muffin thing going with "muffinality" and "homomuffinality" and "muffinalize" SENT me 😂 For real though, there was a lot of disturbing stuff that you talked about here, so thank you for bringing humor to it while discussing the dangers this kind of rhetoric brings! (And also just how WEIRD some of the rhetoric is!)
...and then there was muffin-trafficking... 💣
Willie definitely knows how to handle these topics walking a fine line of sincerity and humor. If I were still teaching Human Sexuality, I would definitely assign this video.
So bully girl does what the movie considers the right and moral thing by refusing to have muffins, and instead of being rewarded for making the right choice, she is permanently disfigured? I know inconsistent morality is standard operating procedure for Evangelicals but I really feel like they didn't think that one through.
I scrolled down to check if someone mentioned this, it made my head spin and also I became insane
In a better film, that story - combined with the bf coercing the teacher story - could have started a discussion on misogyny, and women facing a double-bind. Like, damned if you say yes, and damned if you say no.
I believe the movie's logic is that it happened to her because she had already lost her virginity. In religious circles like these, any negative thing that happens after you do a "bad" thing gets pinned as cosmic retribution. Fear/shame tactics.
The movie is saying because she hooked up already, her spending time with guys alone made her vulnerable to attack. Religion doing some victim blaming.
But you're also correct that they still write it in a way where the message is muddled and counter intuitive. Meant this in the spirit of expanding, not in any way a "correction" X-D
@@brutalbeard9441I was looking for this comment
"What if you get crumbs everywhere" 23:10
Ooof great metaphor.... Terrible but great
Agreed lol, I laughed and then cringed 😅😅
It was such a mortifying analogy.
The Willie Face he makes after that just became my number 1 favourite. And there are a lot of excellent Willie Faces
The youth group leader saying she got rid of her baby because she felt like she had no other choice because she couldn't tell her mom is really them telling on themselves. If she had muffin-positive parents and education, she would probably have felt more comfortable talking to her parents and would have had other options
Not to mention she was pressured into muffins to begin with, which is arguably the r-word. But it’s treated as if she “sinned” and was punished by a medical accident, after also being pressured into that. Yet the point was she’d been punished for her so called sin. Yuck.
Fair warning: This video will make you crave actual muffins with how many times they're mentioned.
For real. I'm this close -->
@@tophers3756 I put them in my grocery order for this week.
Oh no! I was not expecting the muffins to start so early. A few minutes in, and I'm already in muffin time.
Oh no Willy said it so many times I thought you meant actual sex
I went to the comments before watching and just assumed that this video would be about baked goods without batting an eye
you get over the not being allowed to date, it's the "When will you give me grandchildren and when will you marry?" once your over 25 and still socially awkward and had zero serious relationships that's just diabolical.
25? Try 18.
@@deen7530 oh nooooo that's diabolical
@@Zzz-ff1np Thankfully I don't get it from my family but I live in a religious area and I know so many people who got married and had a kid the second they turned 18.
Yes!!! It's like expecting someone to suddenly be sexually active as soon as they get married. Just wild.
It's wild that this movie thinks girls losing their virginity at 14 is so widespread. It really is not. Average age of first muffin is 17 according to Planned Parenthood.
hell I was 20. this movie is gross 🤢
That's what I was thinking... after realizing I'm bi then I'd say that I was 17 but the stupid actual penetration is all that counts, then I was 19.
The creators are just making up a problem to get their target audience more scared than they need to be. They get more money out of the audience that way.
That’s young to have sex.
Yeah I was 17. And I’ve definitely heard of 14 before but honestly I’ve heard of early 20s much more commonly
44:40 that poor girl being attacked after refusing sex is really giving "you *can* change your ways but you're already a wretched creature who deserves suffering so get it now"
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weird that this film actually used teenagers for its teenagers but then said they were 14 when they all look 17-18. just make them that age, 14 year olds don't care about muffins anyway, but I can definitely believe some sort of small-town ritual of "first muffin before graduating high school" or some nonsense like that
You should've seen me at the bake sale when I was younger.
14 year olds don't care about muffins....you wild.
Ooooh......thats what it meant
Honestly the age is kinda accurate to my experiences as a teen. I mean, I had convos like the church group scene at my youth groups at that age. And I also knew ppl who were active at that age. In fact, I remember being in a youth group “sex-ed” convo like that and someone asking what they can say to a non Christian friend who is thinking about being active to convince them not to, and telling my story about how I was trying to convince my friend not to have sex yet by telling him that he was better than that & some speal about self respect 😅
Yes, it’s less common than 16/17, but it’s definitely happening at 14 and sometimes earlier. I know ppl who’s first times were 11 or 12. I do think that’s too young for kids to make that choice but that being said, that’s exactly why the education is important from younger than many ppl want to think.
I knew a couple kids already doing it at 14, and my ex wife and her friends also were well before 14. It tends to be the kids that had nothing else to do and no one home
The labor laws about 14 year olds working are a bit stricter than 16 and 17 year olds. And I also, think they felt the topic was too adult to actually discuss around real 14 year olds. There is a strong belief that if you never mention something around a child they will never have curiosity about it. As if biology just disappears if you don't talk about it.
“Maybe I’m just a horrible heathen sl*t” me too Willy. Me too. 😂❤
Same! Lol
I'm a horrible ace heathen but would 100% wear the suggested t-shirt because of the awesomeness of the sentiment.
I need that shirt
“They’re not an endangered species” probably just means “there’s no shortage of them”
This did clear it up a lot for me but I’m still hung up on how insane the whole exchange is.
dammit. I don't like that that makes sense
Absolutely this. It was poorly communicated, but I think this is the intent.
(I didn't intend to write an essay but I started thinking about grammar and it just kinda happened)
@WillieMuse2 still awful and confusing dialogue tbf
17:55 It's creepy that he's referring to her as the "Woman of the House". It's creepy we have gendered roles for kids when a parent is away or dead. 17:56 Can't the guy cook for himself and his daughter? He's the adult, not his daughter!
30:31 I blame the overbearing, "sex on the couch" dad for getting his daughter involved with the neighbor who just seems like a cult leader.
God forbid he eat a damn sandwich by himself or something. What is he? Four years old? Does she need to cut up his food into bite-size pieces too?
I'm pretty sure Doordash/Uber Eats/ Skip The Dishes exist 😂
Right, it's SO creepy. It's on the same line as those movies/shows that call the 12 year old son the man of the house when his dad goes off to war and the mother starts asking his opinions on adult matters and acting as if his input is the most important and the last word on the matter while at the same time putting pressure on him to take care of the family.
If she had a younger sibling he would totally expect her to do almost all of the childcare
"To resist those temptations when they come. And believe me, they will come."
Me, an asexual, waiting twenty seven years for those temptations to come.
I’m convinced that saint Peter was completely ace, his writings make me think that there was no temptation to avoid so a vow of celibacy was like a vow to breathe
@@johnbrewington2539lmao I always wonder if the majority of nuns or monks in the olden days were just ace and were able to give up "muffins" for life because they genuinely didn't desire it.
@@queencleopatra007 or, in some instances, gay and very much engaging in it behind closed doors
"men love men, women women; so if I move into a house with 50 guys, there won't be any temptation. *wink*"
In my 20s i was apart of a group comprised of actors and med students that would go to middle and high schools and educate them about STDs and sex in general. All the while having to continuously say that abstinence was the only surefire way to prevent STDs and pregnancy. I will never forget about the high school group that asked me and my med student partner if we were virgins since we kept harping on abstinence. My counterpart was and openly admitted it.... Then he looked at me. All I could say was "let's move on.." abstinence only education is so frustrating but I'm thankful the program I was apart of was able to fully educate the kids so long as we harped on abstinence being the BEST!!! The toughest part came when a little girl approached me in a middle school to essentially tell me she had been being harmed by her father and she was scared to death about being sick. That was a day I will never forget. I refused to leave until I knew for certain she felt safe with the teacher and school adminstrator that got involved right after I convinced her to allow me to help her approach her most trusted teacher about it.... It was an extremely heavy situation.... Abstinence only education made it so my hands were completely tied as far as telling these kids resources or educating them fully on contraception. It also won't allow you to do anything but act as though STDs are the worst thing that you could ever have... The program was amazing and did everything it possibly could and it was full of extremely clever and slick actors and med students who made the absolute most of it and I'm proud i was apart of it .... I just wish abstinence only education was done away with.....
That poor girl. That's awful and I'm sure it hangs over you, but I'm glad you were able to be there for her in a time when she'd been scared to talk to anyone else about it.
This is just another reason why age-appropriate sex ed is so important! People hear "sex ed for kindergarteners" and freak out, but if it's age appropriate, it would explain what "private" or "bathing suit" areas are and who is allowed to touch them and why (guardians and doctors to make sure you are healthy or if you need help getting clean) and if you ever feel uncomfortable about being touched, tell a trusted adult, and then another (preferably a teacher) until someone listens and helps you. It also touches on the difference between a secret and a surprise, and if someone threatens you to keep a secret, it's probably bad and you should tell someone.
This is a super important message for littles!! They might not know what is happening to them is wrong, or be too scared to tell anyone without an outside adult giving them insight. But, not shocking that people who want to marry (or at least completely control their kids) want to hide this info from them...
@@HoneyBeeFlanzman I would add that using the proper words for things is EXTREMELY important. People can cry and whine about "robbing children of their innocence" by educating them, but I'd argue that nothing robs children like being SAed and not even having the words to accurately tell anyone and ask for help, or understand what was done to them.
@@katharineeavan9705 We only use the proper words for body parts and sex with our boys, so when they use other words we automatically know to ask who they heard that from. It’s extremely helpful to weed out misinformation!
@@katharineeavan9705yes! This happened in a school my mum was teaching at but a child kept complaining to his teacher that his uncle took his banana, and the teacher initially laughed it off being like "oh what a silly uncle" and after a few more times of this happening, the kid got more and more distressed so the teacher asked for more details and eventually realized his uncle was touching him, but the poor kid had never been equipped with even just the basic words to describe it and that poor kid had to suffer for longer bc of that :( My mum is a physiotherapist so she's always been a big advocate for using proper terminology for everything bc it's just biology. They aren't bad words, just the scientific ones, and teaching wrong words isn't doing any favours to anyone.
'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing'....
"Okay, genuinely, if they tried, I don't think that it's possible for them to have chosen a Worse quote to use...in order to preach abstinence." 😐🤣💀
Love you Willie
The funny thing is the story they wrote for that woman who was teaching abstinence is actually a perfect example of why comprehensive sex education is so important. Pretty much everything that went wrong in her story was from her lack of understanding about sex, pregnancy and abortion. Like she got pressured into sex because she wasn't actually taught about how it's a bad thing to do that and how important consent is, she got pregnant because they didn't know how to have safe sex, she didn't take the morning after pill because she didn't know about it.
The abortion would literally be the only thing she did with full knowledge of what it meant because even if the boyfriend actually arranged everything, they discuss the procedure including the risks with the person getting it despite how the movie is trying to pretend.
Imagine how completely differently her story would have turned out if she had been taught about sex properly, like protection, or how what her boyfriend was doing to try and pressure her into sex actually violates consent. It's infuriating.
Yeah, middle of the road walking kind of disqualifies them from humanity, but just for reference, in Sweden we are taught to walk on the left side of the road (into oncoming traffic) if there is no sidewalk, with the point being you can make eye contact with traffic and see if they've spotted you or not.
It's the same in the US, or at least it is where I'm from in the Midwest. Maybe Willie grew up in a more urban area where that didn't happen?
Roads are meant for people. Killing machines are given 'right' to use them because people who make them bribed politicians and world leaders.
Here's another question - in sweden do kids have a rough idea what their parents car looks like? Because in this movie, she didn't know that was her dad until he put down the window X-D
Yes, same in the US. Bicycling is done with traffic because it's a vehicle and needs to follow the same rules of the road and walking is done against traffic so you can see incoming cars and at least attempt to get out of the way should they swerve to the shoulder.
@@Itmustbe_bunniesI assume that Willie never was taught how to walk on a road that didn't have sidewalks? because that would be a good explanation for why you would expect the standard side of the road
i don't see why i should abstain from saxophone personally. learning early can help you develop important musical skills
Not everyone needs to join their school band but I do believe everyone should try an instrument or two on their own to at least see if they've got an affinity for music of any kind.
how else would they know if they're a alto, tenor, or baritone in band? some people play multiple, and some dont like to play saxophone at all
I'm asexual, so I've always been more of a violins guy myself
@@theflyingspaget how will you know if you're a woodwind or brass if you never experiment?
The church lady both saying “would you want to have to tell god on judgement day why you didn’t help fight? I wouldn’t” in regard to fornication as a sin, AND telling a sob story about how she gave in to temptation as a teenager is bizarre. Ma’am, if you think fornicators are damned, that means you believe *you* are damned. So there’s no “I wouldn’t” about it, because you *will* whether you want to or not.
…I don’t think this is a very well-written movie, is what I’m saying.
But she will counter like every other dogmatic person that, "Well, I was cleansed in the blood of the lamb. So, I'm no longer a fornicator." bs.
Oh, but if she cries enough crocodile tears at teenagers, then obviously, she's redeemed! Just like how Karen is doing the lord's work and garunteeing her spot in heaven for yelling at a pair of same-sex teenagers for flaunting their homosexual (they're just friends) ways in a family restaurant (McDonald's).
@@Neku628 All I can think of is Trixie Mattel saying, "I've been bathed in the blood."
@@Neku628 it's such a goofy argument too. Like, if you are perma-damned the very first time you yield to temptation, there's no reason not to just sin if you want to, because there's nothing you can do to recover. So the answer to that is that you can be absolved.... but if you can be cleansed or absolved, then what's the impetus to not do the sin in the first place? In fact, it's probably best to wait until you're at the end of your life to get forgiven of all your sins, so you can enjoy them through the course of your life. All they have is "you should feel guilty"
@@Romanticoutlaw I think the goal is to have people constantly be sinning (because everything is a sin) and then constantly begging for forgiveness because you never know when you're gonna die. And the best way to beg for forgiveness is to give the church money.
Best line in the video, hands down: "What if you get crumbs everywhere?" America's weird, stupid relationship with muffins produces some great comedy.
"When detractors say that abstinence doesn't really work, what they're saying is people have a hard time from abstaining"
No, people don't say abstinence doesn't work. It's abstinence-only education that doesn't work. There is a key difference in those two things. Detractors to abstinence-only education criticize it because it is ineffective at discouraging kids from having sex and only serves to deny them actual education to make smart and informed decisions. They aren't criticizing the idea of being abstinent.
To put it another way, it's like saying... water is healthy. Yeah, it is. No one would say water is inherently problematic. But if you tried forcing people to go on a water-only diet, people would rightfully point out that you can't live off ONLY water. That doesn't mean water is not healthy for you, it means that it's not the end-all be-all to dietary needs. In the same sense, abstinence can work for some people, but if you deny them all forms of education because you insist this is the ONLY one they need, you find out real quick that it doesn't work like that. Maybe some kids will listen but most will slip through your fingers. Actual comprehensive sex ed is more of a deterrent than just saying 'abstinence is the best birth control'.
Can Jesus Willie please be a recurring character? Because that 2 second cutaway killed me
Agreeeed!!!
One of my black grand cats is named Muffin. Before she was spayed, boy did she want muffins. Maybe that was why my daughter named her that.
Willie! 1. Thank you for the new video and 2. I got two ribbons for knitting from the MN State Fair this year! You should enter some of your stuff in your state/county fair too!
yay county fairs! such an awesome source of validation for all sorts of craftiness!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately I grew up in DC so I don't believe in states or their fairs
@@WillieMuse2 lmao
@@WillieMuse2 I get it, BUT it's a really nice way to pad a resume with strange, useless accolades. Just in case you're ever in the need 😆
Omg didn’t make it to the fair this year but congrats fellow minnesotan ☺️
9:52 I think he means that messed-up teenaged girls aren't an endangered species. I think he was written to not be very articulate and then miscast, so his lines make less sense than they should.
"What if you get crumbs everywhere" had me in stitches
[Glares into the middle distance] ... "muffins took everything from me..."
Me during post nut clarity
Willie in a beard pretending to be god listening to an overly enthusiastic follower talking about saying no to sex is the content I didn't know I needed 😂😂
A childhood friend pulled the switcharoo on me once, invited me to a kids event when it was really to watch one of these types of movies with her church. I’ll never not look at pinewood derby cars and not feel betrayal. And boredom.
28:24 you know he’s excited that his only line in this movie is “sex”😂
I listened to 93% of this video before I realized you're up there just knitting away.
If I wasn't already sold on subscribing for the dry yet witty humor (I was, can't lie), it was the knitting that did it for me as I was crocheting at the time of listening.
Subscribed 🖤
As a missionary/ pastors kid, i have lots of religious trauma and videos like yours are a big help in my deconstruction. Never stop! Also, i love your speaking voice. You have such a fun cadence
I can’t tell you how many youth conventions and lock ins and Bible studies and campfire messages were like that meeting of the abstinence club when I was a teenager in the 90’s. And I went to a Christian high school, too, so I also heard it in chapel services and Bible classes. And yes, I’m still unpacking it in therapy.
33:15 What the ACTUAL FUCK??? That is so insanely evil to have that exchange happen. Your face really sums it up.
RIGHT
43:42 All I hear when someone says, "There are consequences" or "There will be consequences!" is nothing but fearmongering and me shutting myself up like a nun at some convent.
I was surprised church lady had that kind of complication because Id imagine if she was that early she'd choose a medicine abortion over a surgical one? And the risk of infertility after a medicinal abortion is basically nonexistent. Surgical abortions carry a teeny tiny risk of complications like uterine perforation, which is of course awful. Childbirth carries a much larger risk of complications resulting in infertility
Wouldn't want facts to get in the way of moralising.
"Hal, it's about muffins."
I'm told that in my middle school, there was a lot of talk about fourteen year olds having muffins. (I wouldn't know, I've always been a recluse and that's when my depression really kicked in (mostly unrelated).) My main concern has always been for their safety. We did have classes about safe sex, but those were locked behind parental consent; my parents were down with it, but I already knew all of that stuff because they'd told me. You're right that if kids aren't taught how to do it safely, they'll do it unsafely instead, especially when their puberties kick in. I'm demisexual, so I wasn't really concerned with it, but man did I play solos a lot.
I was raised atheist. My parents were mostly concerned with keeping me safe and my curiosity sated, so when I asked something, they'd tell me. I still remember one time when I was reading a Calvin & Hobbes collection, looked up, and asked my dad what fingering was. He told me. I was very confused. Context: Calvin blamed something on Susie, and she got sent to the principle's office. He was thinking, "what if she squeals? What if she fingers me??" Initially, I didn't know what 'fingering' meant. Then I didn't know why Susie would do that or why Calvin wouldn't want it. After a minute, my mom asked me why I asked and I showed her, and she and dad laughed and explained that in that context it meant implicating Calvin in the thing he did. When I had my first girlfriend over, my dad took me aside to make sure that I had condoms and knew I could say no, particularly given that she was trans. (Long story short, we're still living together to this day.) I thought I had a point in all of that, but I've lost it. Oh well.
These characters would implode at the fact that I'm never getting married and not abstaining from muffins
Actually the father would implode from the fact that my dad is able to cook
I kinda wanna never marry now and just have pre-marital muffins out of spite
15:15 I like to imagine this as all metaphors. "This is harder than even a solo". So, harder than doing muffins alone by himself. But also he plays the flute, so you were right, he is gay. Cos you know, he blows the stick
I hate you for this because I got to the end and now I have sweet tea in my sinuses
Or perhaps he's not gay but extremely flexible
I love how they compare BDSM to beastiality. Turns out bondege is as bad as muffining a dog.
Thank you Willie! I tried very hard to be a straight Christian woman at 14, and am now none of those things. I appreciate a look back at the type of stuff I was shown in evangelical youth group and health class with added commentary from a gay man with an outside perspective. Wow none of that shit was normal! I’m glad I’m not there anymore!
PLEASE LOOK UP THE SILVER RING THING!!!! Even when I stopped agreeing with their ideals, their video series was still COMEDY GOLD.
I'll check them out! Also THANK YOU!!!
Another thing that creeps me out is the way some people treat any sort of erotic interaction as something that taints the romance. "I like ketchup and I like fries, but I don't want to taint my fries with the ketchup, so I keep my bottle of ketchup in a cooler with a padlock on it and only ever drink it when I absolutely crave it, that way my fries won't get tainted with the pleasant addition of another flavor that's intended to complement them."
I have religious trauma and I find videos like this comforting and super validating of the mess I had to grow up with.
Same here!
Same
Saaaamee
Lol. The neighbor who watches the girl when she's HOME ALONE is named Mrs. McAllister
I live near a military base and they happened to start playing Taps very loudly exactly aligned with the hand gesture @6:05. For a split second, I thought Willie had put it in the video on purpose and was cackling. Highly recommend recreating the experience.
I am slowly slowly slipping behind the couch. One day I will be on the floor. That is going to be wonderful ❤
I fully respect when people need to skip your Christian videos due to trauma. I have healed a lot and some things that used to trigger me don't anymore. Other things randomly do out of nowhere when they don't typically. Some things still do.
That being said, when you make videos, personally I can always handle it. Your video essay rants are magnificent to me. I feel like I'm listening to a dear friend who is absolutely hilarious and filled with depth, kindness, and nuance. You're a comforting person, Willie. You make me feel safe enough to come to find healing for places that I still might need it, places that I definitely will always need community support regarding such topics. ❤ I appreciate you! You're funny and I appreciate how much time and energy you put into your videos.
Thanks, internet stranger friend!
I am a brazilian 14 years old. I can asure you, not even 5% of my class has had their first muffin.
A friend of mine had that saw surgery you mentioned in college. He literally had his jaw wired shut and could only "eat" through a straw for WEEKS. Imagine putting Taco Bell burritos in the blender so you can consume something with a familiar taste. 😳
And I didn't even know how in the heck he brushed his teeth. 😭
Thank you for the sweet message, HP!
Can someone who is good at making gifs make me a gif of Wille as Jesus saying, "Oh..... neat." Please and thank you.
I have to assume this was shot on an iPhone 1.
Addendum: lol, "latchkey arrangement"
"Basis of your entire religion" took me out!!!
30:55 That would imply they believe a woman has a right to not consent. Sadly, that is not what they usually teach.
🌻💐 Happy Willie Day, friends! 💐🌻
I see no flaws in this video. I'm so proud of you. You've perfected your art. Go on queen.
That whole meeting scene was so bizarre. This adult woman asking children the questions they should be asking her, and her expecting them to just have the textbook answers. Is this a test? Is she quizzing them after weeks of study so she can send them to the abstinence competition?
Ty for the religious trauma warning. Unfortunately, there was no warning about the acting. I am STRUGGLING
god this movie look like someone shot it on a digital camera from 2002
holy fuck that meeting was the craziest shit I've ever heard
This whole thing is a fever dream
3:16 Don't say it! My virgin ears! 😭
Willie talking about his future kids is oddly heartwarming.
Kink in marriage is wrong, but apparently grape is not. Wait, I forgot that grape can’t exist in marriage according to these people.
Exactly.
Of course it doesn't, you stop being a person and become a servant to your husband, and whatever he wants you want too. So if he hits you you must have wanted it. And that's completely different from 24/7 slaveplay. Because slaveplay requires consent.
45:29 Not only didn't muffins do it but following their advice to not get muffins contributed to it. They're acting like it was her fault because she told the ah no, she didn't want muffins, that she got hurt. So the consequence of her not wanting muffins was getting hurt? The writer lost the plot here.
I went to Catholic school growing up, and they had a "purity conference" we all had to attend in 8th grade. It was one of only two "field trips" that year, the other was a bunch of Christian high schools advertising.
But I remember there was this couple. The woman went through a bunch of trauma and "slept around" with a bunch of guys because her life sucked. And the guy waited until he married her. And while she was telling her story, he had the most condescending disappointed look on his face, and she was so clearly feeling guilty. I remember how many times she said she regretted her past and how glad she was that God and her husband had "forgiven" her. It was gross.
They then ended the conference by handing out literal V-Cards we were supposed to sign. I remember thinking "what's the big deal, it's just sex" and "I know kind religious relatives have had premarital sex, so I don't think God actually cares." I still believed I would wait until marriage for the sheer reason that I didn't care.
Luckily the Catholic High School ads didn't work, because I should have realized I was asexual sooner based on that alone 😂
So as soon as you said new t-shirt idea I paused the video, found your shop to see if the shirt was there and am now going to buy it. Thank you for all you do
"can marital segx be wrong?"
My immediate answer: yes, marital grape is very wrong
movie answer: kinky stuff is icky...
Mood
'Thank you Willie', we all say in unison
31:24 also very important that the woman will not always be down for vanilla muffins either. matter of fact, there may be situations where an element of sprinkles, however small, may be the exact thing that would spur her interest, and without it she rather wouldn't have muffins at all. or where she simply isn't in the mood either which way. or your partner is ace and disinterested in all muffins or disinterested in muffins unless it happens under very specific circumstances. But nevermind that. Of course having only vanilla muffins is totally protecting the woman and stops her from having muffins she doesn't want...
I'm late for the premiere that's going on, but I'm here in spirit
it feels scary that one part of what is communicated to evangelical kids watching this is the idea that a malicious guy with a knife wouldn't cut you up for saying no to him so long as you said no for the reason the movie thinks is righteous
6:53 off topic but THE UNICORN PILLOW PET 😭😭😭
"talks like Patty Mayonnaise on quaaludes" LMAO the jokes are so good
I feel like whoever wrote and made this movie needs to be investigated ASAP
that hug was salacious 😂😂😂😂
35:34 "good men stand[ing] by and do[ing] nothing" is literally the definition of abstinence.
😭😂
Commenting to help Willie feel better
20:42 totally agree. My parents never forbid us from dating, made sure we knew the medical side of things, and there was always condoms in the hallway closet. It still was a big deal, but not a forbidden thing
Unironically, the best way to prevent teenage pregnancy/the spread of STIs is to teach kids/people about it as early as possible, and make it something NORMAL, not something forbidden or sinful. Not to mention providing free contraceptives/condoms/etc in many available locations. Any parents reading this comment: Teach Your Kids About Sex Before They "Learn" By Themselves.
willie has a talent for making what would otherwise be a deeply upsetting film entertaining and funny lol
Just what I needed on a Monday! You make these movies bearable to sit through
I find it hilarious your channel was recommended to me after my phone heard me complaining about the writing of a TV show I was watching 😂❤
opened YT to watch moomin but then I saw that there was a new Willie vid !
"Look at... ALL of human history" is the line that got my sub XDD
Excellent video, thank you!!
Deep and funny. Best underrated channel on UA-cam
☺️☺️☺️THANK YOU!
commenting for engagement! thank u for the video Willie!!
This is one of the funniest videos on this channel.
WILLIE!!! You make me legit so so happy :3
Willie, you got Hewlett Packard as a sponsor? That's great. *5 seconds later* Oh....