Fredi Washington refused to pass as white! The Tragic Mulatto Trope..

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  • @KarineAlourde
    @KarineAlourde  Рік тому +273

    “I don't want to pass because I can't stand insincerities and shams. I am just as much Negro as any of the others identified with the race.” -Fredi Washington.. Watch Hazel Scott, the bronze goddess of cafe society NEXT ua-cam.com/video/qNE8ecflB-g/v-deo.html

    • @inyangbassey722
      @inyangbassey722 Рік тому +4

      WOW! Can you do Ethel Waters??? _/\_

    • @tartefemme08
      @tartefemme08 Рік тому +5

      I would like to know, respectfully, what you mean by hated? It does seem she was rejected by black film industries, but hate seems strong . She could be killed or injured brutally if caught passing in films by white american society. However, it seems she would be allowed to live her life in relative peace in black american society. I can fathom in some black films they might have been scared to cast her because perhaps if people think she is white( she looks so at first glance), there might be or cause an issue between industies and or societies. Just a thought, and I would love to know more. Please recommend any books on her and / or this subject 😀 .

    • @appleopps4540
      @appleopps4540 Рік тому +6

      I would love a video on the reverse. How it’s been problematic for whites to play roles of people of color. Like Liz Taylor as Cleopatra or Natalie Wood in “West side story”

    • @robyndismon394
      @robyndismon394 Рік тому +5

      At what point will we STOP using derogatory, confederate terms to describe bi racial persons?

    • @tyronejones7341
      @tyronejones7341 Рік тому +3

      @appkopps4540; Natalie Wood also played the daughter of a white French woman in France married to a Black GI stationed there in a film also starring Frank Sinatra made in the late 50's which I cannot recall the title having accidently stumbling into it mid-screening.
      Regarding Cleopatra it is up in the air if she was "Black" having descended down the line in Egypt from Alexander the Great's Greek general Ptolemy whom he made his Satrap (viceroy) over conquered Egypt.

  • @moiv.3772
    @moiv.3772 Рік тому +184

    I am soooo happy to know that there were people who kept true to themselves like Ms. Fredi Washington. God Bless Her.

  • @Ohsnapitzann
    @Ohsnapitzann Рік тому +86

    As a mixed race person I deeply understand Fredi Washington's plight and struggles. She was an amazing actress.

    • @onelevel2346
      @onelevel2346 Рік тому

      I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU CAN, IN HER TIME THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS MIXXED RACE.. YOU WERE EITHER BLACK OR YOU OR NOT.
      REMEMBER THESE ARE PEOPLE COMING UP FROM SLAVERY AND MIXED VIA RAPE AND NOT BY CHOICE.

    • @gracegreen1859
      @gracegreen1859 11 місяців тому

      You could never fully understand that today. Stop it. She was truly dealing with racism during Jim Crow. She chose to support Black community because she is Black. Not mixed instead of supporting her oppressors.

    • @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192
      @abrahamisaacmuciusiii9192 9 місяців тому +2

      A documentary film should be made about Fredi Washington.

    • @poisonivyheart6621
      @poisonivyheart6621 8 місяців тому +1

      My daughter is mixed and looks like Billy but is proud to say the most inspirational, beautiful woman she knows is me “ her black mother” she doesn’t know much people though lol!

    • @sandramccollum284
      @sandramccollum284 5 місяців тому

      Freddie Washington was Black.

  • @veronicaelliott9582
    @veronicaelliott9582 Рік тому +54

    I am so proud of her. It was so easy to hate yourself at that time.

    • @CIWise
      @CIWise 12 днів тому

      At THAT time?!!

  • @purplelove010
    @purplelove010 Рік тому +655

    Media tried to do the same thing to Mariah Carey. She was labeled as "a White woman who can sing like a Black woman". However, Mariah stood up for who she was & denounced that label.

    • @jhondoe110
      @jhondoe110 Рік тому +6

      I'm knot sure if shh gave details of the journey of Hur Hue; don't have 2 bah et wood be an interesting read since we're in a positive/negative racist world...no fault of ours; it is what it is.

    • @LKCLifer
      @LKCLifer Рік тому +122

      Isn’t Mariah both black and white? She’s bi racial so she’s both. For her to denounce one or the other isn’t she denying who she truly is. Honestly I think biracial people deserve more respect because from my experience both races look down on a biracial child.

    • @DaReeGambles
      @DaReeGambles Рік тому +70

      ​@@LKCLifer The one drop of black blood still stands today..

    • @jhondoe110
      @jhondoe110 Рік тому

      @@LKCLifer l think Tiger Woods alleged to have had racial identity issues in the past, l believe, but the golf swinger accepted his mom's race instead.

    • @ShanyShannon
      @ShanyShannon Рік тому

      @L K.C.Lifer She isn't Biracial, lol. She is mixed race which is far past being Biracial. Look at her and Nick Cannon's children.

  • @DamnDemi
    @DamnDemi Рік тому +91

    I love that she refused to pass as white ❤

  • @asingleton5339
    @asingleton5339 Рік тому +75

    My son's Great Grandma had green eyes & very Lite but she never denied she was black. She was very beautiful ❤️. She always said the Plantation owner was her daddy.

    • @CaliforniaGirl1
      @CaliforniaGirl1 Рік тому +5

      My aunt is the same. Mixed is black. Period.

    • @teeteeme5752
      @teeteeme5752 Рік тому

      Your son meaning you are part of it

    • @KaseyBatesYoyo
      @KaseyBatesYoyo 10 місяців тому +4

      @@CaliforniaGirl1no it’s not it’s both and that’s ok

    • @ORISONTV
      @ORISONTV 10 місяців тому

      She's mixed race not black

    • @ORISONTV
      @ORISONTV 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@CaliforniaGirl1mixed is not black period 😅😅😅

  • @Dee_nyce
    @Dee_nyce Рік тому +19

    They didn't just risk rejection they risked death!

  • @TashaJewell
    @TashaJewell Рік тому +33

    I learned of her as a child and respected her resilience and strength!❤

  • @stacykeller3812
    @stacykeller3812 Рік тому +63

    Imitation of Life made a huge impact on me as an innocent child . It was so so sad. What a beautiful lady she was!

    • @Roseeeee11
      @Roseeeee11 11 місяців тому

      ❤loved that movie.

    • @AdrienSamuel-d7q
      @AdrienSamuel-d7q 10 місяців тому

      I. Know. A. Few. Black. Women. That. Have. Mixed. Baby. By. Causian. But. Those. Black. Women. We're. Demons. Too. Their. Kids. So. That. Movie. Was. Game. And. Trickery. Games. Money. Come. Up. Game. That. Movie. Is. Just. A. Stupid. Fairy tale. Too. Get. Money. N. Make. The. World. See. Mixed. People. As. The. Problem. And. A. Lot. Of. People. Played. The. Games. We. Lost. A. Lot. Of. Mix. People. Because. Of. The. Lies. Of. Movies. Like. That. God. Help. Us. All

  • @JukuduB
    @JukuduB Рік тому +33

    My great great grandmother could have easily passed. Her situation was because of rape. Our family dynamic would not be what it is today if she did not proudly claim her mother's side.❤

  • @xselaholiviax8593
    @xselaholiviax8593 Рік тому +138

    I’m a mulatto girl myself this makes me so sad 😓 glad she stood up for herself though. Never be ashamed of yourself it can be a challenge some days even for myself with feelings of belonging but I’m working on it! ❤️

    • @N_mindz_sightz
      @N_mindz_sightz Рік тому +4

      Peace and greetingz. What we survive help mode us 1way or another. Just continue2b ur best self and all else will find u. Believe the goodness that was born in u. U got it, u can and will overcome all that u were made2and ur beauty may sometimes b debated just remember the best part of beauty is its within that matter the most.

    • @shapiro9640
      @shapiro9640 Рік тому +12

      Be proud to be mulatto 💯❤️

    • @CaliforniaGirl1
      @CaliforniaGirl1 Рік тому

      If you are mixed, you are black.

    • @DemureDarlings
      @DemureDarlings Рік тому +8

      You belong to GOD!!! People may NEVER accept us, but we are HERE!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @xselaholiviax8593
      @xselaholiviax8593 Рік тому +1

      Thank you all for the kind words blessings to you! ❤️

  • @kandondooley89
    @kandondooley89 Рік тому +142

    Hey, Karine. I've always loved Fredi and how she affirmed her blackness in spite of being offered fame and fortune. Thank you for this! BTW, have u ever considered doing a video on Sanaa Lathan?I feel she's one of the most underrated true ladies of out time. Be blessed!

    • @KarineAlourde
      @KarineAlourde  Рік тому +31

      Thank you for tuning in Kandon! And yes she is on my list for 2023 🥰 I have just a few more people ahead of her on the list and then I will do a breakdown on her. She’s very underrated ❤

    • @purplelove3666
      @purplelove3666 Рік тому +5

      What blackness?

    • @career5690
      @career5690 Рік тому +1

      @@KarineAlourde Also her stepmother is Haitian.

    • @kathleenking47
      @kathleenking47 Рік тому

      Dinah Shore was able to pass

    • @fredica3032
      @fredica3032 Рік тому

      Sanaa had a great career ahead of her in the beginning. However, it's been said that she has proven to be difficult.

  • @BixbyLBC
    @BixbyLBC Рік тому +17

    I've seen Imitation of Life many times and I thought she was a white woman playing a biracial white passing woman. She was so beautiful and talented ❤

  • @mariejae
    @mariejae Рік тому +14

    So sad to deny the family that loves you because they are hated for their skin color.

  • @honeybee19892
    @honeybee19892 Рік тому +47

    She really could have passed but respect that she didn't.

    • @purplelove3666
      @purplelove3666 Рік тому +4

      So you respect that she didn't,yet you have biracial actresses and biracials ,who classify as black?. And are you ok with that?

    • @honeybee19892
      @honeybee19892 Рік тому +20

      Personally I am not for the one drop rule but it is still often promoted in society and in Fredi's time biracial identity was not a choice.. Black community has for long time been more welcoming to mulatto/mixed people than white people have been.

    • @debbiedavid3151
      @debbiedavid3151 Рік тому

      @@purplelove3666 Thank you for pointing this out. So many biracial people are happy to be black but don't want to pass as white especially the women, they love being the face of blackness all the while, erasing unambiguous BW image in the media, And if we comment on it, were being told that were hatful, and jealous.

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 місяців тому

      ​@@honeybee19892What a ignorant comment. Bi racial was a choice in her time. The racial integrity act didn't start until 1924 and only lasted 43 years. Fredi was born in 1903. She was listed on at list two census as MULATTO. The black community has not welcomed anything. The only thing the black community has been doing is claiming our wins. The majority of mulattos never wanted to be part of the black community. It was the 1924 racial integrity act which forced us to be part of the black community and forced us to share our advantages with them. Evidently you don't know your own history because mulattos has been documented since the early 1600s in the colonies. That's more than 300 years of firm history. I think you better dive into some books.

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 місяців тому

      ​@@purplelove3666in my opinion she did it for attention. To be the stand out amongst the black community. She was born in 1903. Atleast two census would have her as MULATTO on it not black.

  • @tatsf
    @tatsf Рік тому +75

    Thanks for posting this. As a mixed race older man who looks white I have always had a complicated relationship with my race. I always chose to say that I am mixed as opposed to letting folks assume I'm white. And I have always been clear on the privilege I have had in the society in general because of how I look. But it's always somewhat precarious. Some folks (of all races) say it doesn't matter that I'm mixed because people (who don't know me personally) see me as white. Other folks quote the one drop rule and say I'm Black regardless of shade. Just for the record, I'm not taking a poll here about how I should identify, just saying that I relate to the topic and thank you! In more recent years there has been a trend to call folks with my appearance "white-passing". Not a fan as I see "passing" as an action that you take purposefully, one I never wanted to engage in. I just say mixed.

    • @kristenb5177
      @kristenb5177 Рік тому

      It boils down to that you hate the white side . That is why I would never support having a mix child / children the child will always hate the white side .

    • @nicolewood7957
      @nicolewood7957 Рік тому +6

      My son is a very light skinned black boy. “White presenting” is a less demeaning way to describe his appearance. We jokingly refer to him as an undercover brother lol. My sister is white presenting as well and she says she gets to see a lot of folks true colors when they think there are no black people present 👀

    • @tatsf
      @tatsf Рік тому +3

      @@nicolewood7957 I have definitely heard/used "undercover brother"! LOL And I have also been able to see a lot of folks "true colors" around race when they presume that they are around only white/non-Black folks.

    • @JoeJoe-ng9qb
      @JoeJoe-ng9qb 11 місяців тому +1

      If I were in such a group of folks who were that low, I'd walk away. Not all people are this crude and mean and uneducated.

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 місяців тому

      White presenting and white passing are two different things. One drop rule is noting more than a tool weaponized by blacks to get advantage because it benefits them the most. The 1924 racial integrity act is what made one drop rule law for a measly 43 years (ended in 1967). Mulatto has been on the record books since the early 1600s starting in the original colonies. People's ignorance of US history is ridiculous

  • @floatingdon
    @floatingdon Рік тому +30

    Thank you, Karine, for your videos. As an old white man who was (happily) raised in California with no differentiation between races -- my 1st grade teacher was black, and we lived in a mixed neighborhood -- when I became old enough to realize the kind of discrimination that non-white people in my culture had been subjected to, it was shocking and saddening to me, and really difficult to take in. I'm happy that there were a number of non-white entertainers who were able to give us a legacy to enjoy for many decades to come, and I can only hope that things continue to improve until we won't even have to mention race at all when we talk about someone's achievements.

    • @stephenkeye2678
      @stephenkeye2678 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your candor. Unfortunately, white attacks on "woke" we are going backward. Look at DiSantistan. 75 million white people agree w him. We are doomed.

    • @deborahneal161
      @deborahneal161 Рік тому +1

      Me to, it's really sad, but so long as people teach hate from birth, unlikely, sad but true, if it comes to pass we will be long gone, if it wasn't for hope,faith and prayer, we wouldn't have gotten this far.

  • @rodb66
    @rodb66 Рік тому +179

    It's a shame that some people would deny their racial heritage because of what society has seemed the superior race.

    • @Joshua-re3xw
      @Joshua-re3xw Рік тому +23

      Back then they did it to get ahead and succeed so you can’t really blame them

    • @camillia8633
      @camillia8633 Рік тому +27

      It's a shame that they had to.

    • @shyredwall
      @shyredwall Рік тому +16

      They did it like gay people are passing as straight. Society love it that way. Shame is on society not the person passing.

    • @rodb66
      @rodb66 Рік тому +3

      @@shyredwall I didn't realize passing apply to being gay just trans. I do think society plays a huge part in people wanted to pass but I also think that it's up to the individual to make that choice to do so. Thanks for your response.

    • @jacquelinelowery5589
      @jacquelinelowery5589 Рік тому

      They're just as white as they are black. The one drop thing is just an evil rule set up by racists. That's what evil does, it confuses people and complicates everything.

  • @_haitian_barbie_
    @_haitian_barbie_ Рік тому +21

    You’re definitely one of my favorite UA-camrs. I love how classy and relaxing your channel is. I love how positive your videos are with your delivery.🤎

  • @jasonmcdonald3528
    @jasonmcdonald3528 Рік тому +47

    I did watch this film as a child and it did make me teary eyed especially towards the end.
    I’m so proud of her for being proud of who she is and paving the way for future generations to look back and honour her.
    Rest in Peace, Rest in Power 💯💯

    • @andreabrown4541
      @andreabrown4541 Рік тому +1

      I was first introduced to Ms. Fredi in the 1960s since my paternal grandmother carried the blue eyed gene herself. I also heard the book, as well as the tragic mulatto myth, was highly controversial at the time especially by black ppl.

  • @ladybugforest3687
    @ladybugforest3687 Рік тому +176

    Thank you for saying what you did. I'm mexican. My both parents are Mexican. I can pass as white. I get rejected among my own. My heart is brown it's Mexican. It hurts so much to get rejected. This has made me very shy with people in general. I wish people could just see me as a me. Thank you for presenting this beautiful woman's story.

    • @purplelove3666
      @purplelove3666 Рік тому +1

      But aren't you the beauty standard among Mexicans?

    • @NiKiMa023
      @NiKiMa023 Рік тому +36

      It’s one of those things…race, nationality and ethnicity. You can be both Mexican and white.

    • @mkg6640
      @mkg6640 Рік тому +15

      ​@@NiKiMa023 thankyou
      ... my brain hurts

    • @starlightrocks7
      @starlightrocks7 Рік тому +17

      You're Mexican, not black, so you never experience what Black. Americans go through.

    • @ladybugforest3687
      @ladybugforest3687 Рік тому +16

      @Starlight you're correct.. I'm over 50 percent Native American and my experience is different. Usually Mexicans are native most people do not understand our history. With that being said that doesn't mean I cannot identify with another humans pain. We need to see stop hear and listen hopefully one day we can just fully love. 🙏

  • @Lisabug2659
    @Lisabug2659 Рік тому +50

    I watched this movie when I was a kid, I had no idea what it was about but I would never forget it. By the end I was in tears, actually crying. It made a huge impression on me.

  • @tiffani5353
    @tiffani5353 Рік тому +16

    I never seen this version of "Imitation of life". The one that she's in must be the original. I got to see that. I never heard of her before, but I'm glad I do now.There have been so many amazing black artist in that time, that paved the way for us and they don't even get their flowers. Thank you Karine for making videos like this!

  • @traceylennon1204
    @traceylennon1204 Рік тому +21

    She lived a long life born 1903 to 1994!!

  • @KingLucy
    @KingLucy Рік тому +46

    She was beautiful and very intelligent. I love that she had so much pride in her blackness

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 місяців тому

      She isn't black she is mulatta

    • @ORISONTV
      @ORISONTV 10 місяців тому

      Not a black

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 10 місяців тому

      @@ORISONTV exactly. She was mixed race.

    • @ORISONTV
      @ORISONTV 10 місяців тому

      No black don't look like her

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 10 місяців тому

      @@ORISONTV Exactly. They have never liked us mulattos but they will CLAIM OUR WINS

  • @starrlara2599
    @starrlara2599 Рік тому +7

    So glad things have changed. So sad she had to go through that.

  • @honeybee19892
    @honeybee19892 Рік тому +10

    You should do a video of Carol Channing. She revealed later in life that she is mixed with black..

    • @nikkib7442
      @nikkib7442 Рік тому +3

      Yeah when she was younger , you could tell she was of mixed heritage. I believe that’s why she wore her hair blonde to try to hide her blackness

  • @pgk3052
    @pgk3052 Рік тому +10

    Thank you so much for honoring Fredi Washington with your informative video.
    I grew up watching old movies and remember grilling my parents about why more actors and actresses of color weren't featured more often in films.
    It certainly led to some interesting discussions.
    In the end, they agreed that many talented people deserved more opportunities.

  • @gloriaculberson3568
    @gloriaculberson3568 Рік тому +10

    We're standing on the shoulders of our ancestors, embrace your heritage, be proud of who you are, I've the upmost respect for Fredi Washington, for being true to herself.

  • @ThePerryda
    @ThePerryda Рік тому +34

    I learned about Fredi Washington as a young girl and loved her ever since ❤❤❤ What a beautiful soul

  • @anitarichmond8930
    @anitarichmond8930 Рік тому +16

    Growing up “Imitation of Life, along with “The Bad Seed “ were two of my family’s , favorite movies🍿🥤🍫

    • @yonaavraham9594
      @yonaavraham9594 Рік тому +3

      I remember The bad Seed! That was a heck of a movie!

    • @AriesEnergi
      @AriesEnergi Рік тому

      I loved both as well! 🍿 ❤

  • @delanosampson8544
    @delanosampson8544 Рік тому +22

    I love Fredi Washington! Thanks for this video! It sucks that there's not a lot of info on her or pictures. She's truly amazing ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @wildwaning9427
    @wildwaning9427 Рік тому +14

    Karine, Yahuah bless 🙏🏽 you mightily for your commentary on this subject. Something (the bigotry) I've been trying to highlight for years and consistently shot down. Having been aware of Freddie Washington for decades and her struggles in that industry, it's great to see she's getting the recognition she deserves. I recall the story of how the studios used dark makeup on her when she played opposite of Paul Robeson in 'The Emperor Jones,' because they panicked it would appear a yt woman was playing the love interest opposite a Blk man. Or that they completely removed her scenes with him when the movie played in southern states. Thank you!! 💕

  • @iangardiner
    @iangardiner Рік тому +15

    I'm so glad you are a deep-diving film and movie industry historian. I would know 0% of this valuable knowledge if you didn't publish. Thank you very much.

  • @Ann-ub4mf
    @Ann-ub4mf Рік тому +5

    What a Brave and Courageous Woman.❤🙏🏾 Thank You for doing this video. ❤

  • @Boop01013
    @Boop01013 Рік тому +2

    I deleted my old UA-cam and think about your content a lot! I’m so darn happy to have rediscovered your channel!

  • @katjagolden893
    @katjagolden893 Рік тому +102

    What a gorgeous lady. Could you fault her if she wanted to pass as white? So proud of her for standing up for who she was.
    I am a Polish Jew. I can’t say what it is like to grow up as an American Black or Jewish during WWII but I know what it’s like to be the “butt” of all jokes. I embraced it and can laugh at myself.
    Fredi was a beautiful human. Although humans always find something to tear people down, I look fwd to the day when race isn’t discussed as a negative.

    • @hashslingingslasher4214
      @hashslingingslasher4214 Рік тому +2

      yes we can.

    • @brittaniejones1623
      @brittaniejones1623 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, we could blame her. It would’ve been a betrayal to her black ancestors and family to pretend that she was something other than what she was.

    • @katjagolden893
      @katjagolden893 7 місяців тому +1

      @@brittaniejones1623 - very true

  • @gotosleep2876
    @gotosleep2876 Рік тому +25

    yess i remember requesting this months back i’m so glad you did it❤! she was such a brave person

  • @andreascott8817
    @andreascott8817 Рік тому +8

    Wow! I had no idea the 1959 version with Lana Turner and Juanita Moore was a remake. Now I have to watch the original ❤❤

  • @nancyedwards1920
    @nancyedwards1920 Рік тому +4

    You presented her story so poignantly, it's a story that has personal significance .ty hun❣❤❤

  • @divinedawson8825
    @divinedawson8825 Рік тому +6

    Thank you so much for this important history. I love your videos they are always so inspirational, informative and leave me feeling a scene of pride in my black history.

  • @appleopps4540
    @appleopps4540 Рік тому +25

    This was such a great breakdown! I had never heard of her nor have a seen the original “Imitation of Life.” I’ll need to check it out but I love that she chose not to pass! Too many people did that and are still doing it! I’ve never heard that Marilyn could be Mexican but it would not shock me at all!

    • @krazykaye8843
      @krazykaye8843 Рік тому +3

      I actually have seen the original version of "Imitation Of Life" when I was a teenager and I thought this was a white woman. 🤦 I guess maybe I assumed that she was actually white because in a lot of the Westerns my dad watched white actors would often play Native American characters. I guess I thought they allowed as few people of color on screen as possible back then. I'm not sure where my head was. 🤷😂

    • @appleopps4540
      @appleopps4540 Рік тому +4

      @@krazykaye8843 that’s such a good point, rarely we’re people of color actually played by people of color. Look at Angelina Jolie and how she played Mariane Pearl or Emma Stone playing an Asian woman in “Aloha” like, what???

    • @krazykaye8843
      @krazykaye8843 Рік тому +3

      @@appleopps4540 those are some great examples as well and they're not even from the old Hollywood era that I was thinking of, they're from years later! Goes to show how little has actually changed in some regards.

    • @themaggattack
      @themaggattack Рік тому

      ​@@krazykaye8843 RIGHT?! Even now Hollywood is STILL pulling this racist/ colorist BS! Another example was Zoe Saldana as Nina Simone. A huge part of Nina Simone's identity was her dark skin. To put Zoe Saldana in black face and focus salaciously only on Nina's flaws- what an absolute insult that movie was!
      The fact that Marilyn Monroe was Mexican makes so much sense. Explains why she did things like advocate for Ella Fitzgerald. Because she understood (at least to some extent) the racism Ella was up against and she wanted to help Ella get the recognition she deserved. The fact she's Mecican also explains why Cholos love Marilyn so much! ❤

    • @KawaiiStars
      @KawaiiStars Рік тому

      rita hayworth is also white passing south american if i remember correctly

  • @Sue611
    @Sue611 Рік тому +16

    Are we ever going to have a Karine Alourde breakdown video? It'll be fun to learn more about you and learn some of your beauty and skincare tips ❤️

    • @jhondoe110
      @jhondoe110 Рік тому

      *She is tha' beautiful, l agree, like a melody🎵she so Sweeet💗*

  • @RaiRaiBrown
    @RaiRaiBrown Рік тому +4

    What a beautiful intelligent woman, she was far far ahead of her time.

  • @michaelgilbert4310
    @michaelgilbert4310 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for this video. I have gone through the same thing as a preforming Artist. I have many of the same stories. So I have decided to do what I do best and that is to do my own thing in which God has given me the many gifts. No man can stop you from singing 😂.

  • @liyrocks
    @liyrocks Рік тому +4

    My Nana could pass for white. She would clear up any misconceptions by saying, "On my birth certificate it says Negro!" She went through a lot. I was very confused growing up because she would say racist things about both blacks and whites. It was weird, as if she had a conflicted soul. She used to tell me stories of her drinking from a "white only" fountain in the south as a little girl in the late 1930's. I can't even fathom life back then. You have very fascinating Old Hollywood content. I'm glad I found your channel..

    • @onelevel2346
      @onelevel2346 Рік тому

      I APPLAUD HER FOR BEING A STRONG BLACK SISTER IN THE STRUGGLE, HOWEVER, i DON'T SEE THE BIG DEAL ON NOT PASSING.. MANY MANY BLACKS COULD HAVE PASSED FOR WHITE AND OVER 80% DIDN'T, INCLUDING MY GRANDPARENTS, THIS WAS NEVER AN OPTION.. BUT STAYED WITH THEIR PEOPLE.. SHE SHOULD BE HONORED BUT NOT RECEIVE A MEDAL FOR NOT PASSING - SHE SHOULD GET A MEDAL FOR BEING AN UPRIGHT BLACK WOMAN AND STANDING FOR CAUSE.

  • @sherribaker9135
    @sherribaker9135 Рік тому +21

    I am Latina and Jewish I loved both of my parents equally. Black in any shade is BEAUTIFUL!!❤❤❤

    • @debbiedavid3151
      @debbiedavid3151 Рік тому +6

      Latina isn't a race it's a couture.

    • @ravenrebel3183
      @ravenrebel3183 Рік тому

      @@debbiedavid3151Latinos know this-but we’re often so mixed it’s becoming it’s own race. We don’t take our definition from outsiders.

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 місяців тому

      ​@@ravenrebel3183"becoming it's own race".. Mixed has always been it's own race

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 місяців тому

      Fredi isn't black she is a Mulatta. Does this women look anything like Angela Bassett, Michelle Obama, Oprah to you? The only people in Africa with black ancestry you will find that look like Fredi are areas with alot of admixture like cape verde, or south Africa (coloureds) or the horn of Africa, or N Africa

    • @ravenrebel3183
      @ravenrebel3183 11 місяців тому

      @@krazyjnva2up2down55 no, Latino, which is not the same as mixed. Anyone can say they’re mixed if they have any admixture. But being Latino is specific. Latinos started as strictly European, but later on with the widespread miscegenation in the colonies, we’ve come to be seen as a race to ourselves. This is despite the fact that we aren’t all mixed to the same degree, with the same heritages, or even mixed at all. Hence why some people take issue with Latino being seen as a “race”. There are strictly white Latinos, strictly black Latinos, strictly Indigenous Latinos, and then the majority, mixed race Latinos.

  • @lynnedaltondalton7466
    @lynnedaltondalton7466 Рік тому +5

    Hii Karine than you for educating the life of the beautiful Fredi Washington. Imitation of life I watched twice the first was in black and white the second was in color, my goodness I thought both actress was white. Fredi wasn’t afraid of her blackness. She could easily passed but she refused. So sad she wasn’t accepted by black or white, but she pressed on courageously and made a difference. She was an extremely beautiful woman. Thank you for sharing 💐

  • @cleofuss-el-junkie
    @cleofuss-el-junkie Рік тому +5

    Thank you for this video,and the reference to movie "The Imitation of Life"... I can remember watching this movie in the late 60's with my mother and sister on a summer night... At the end of the movie,my sister left the room in tears... After seeing the ending to this movie once again in 2023,I see how It can leave anyone in tears, including a grown man like me at 65... Now,I know how my sister felt back then...Thanx for the memories!

  • @urgh9822
    @urgh9822 Рік тому +15

    I love this channel i find it fascinating... They're all so charismatic and radically different from one another. If you haven't yet , i'd be so interested to hear your take on Kate Moss and her iconic duo with Naomi ♡

    • @overcomerbtboj
      @overcomerbtboj Рік тому

      I think karine has done breakdowns on both

  • @13utoober
    @13utoober Рік тому +3

    Karine, your videos are so well done. And, your voice is soothing and perfect for the narration. Thank you.

  • @tcrijwanachoudhury
    @tcrijwanachoudhury Рік тому +8

    I need to watch this film, this industry has changed but lately it's been breaking me ngl, thank you for your videos Karine ❤

  • @trudigoodman4825
    @trudigoodman4825 Рік тому +3

    Thank you. I am a mixed race Jewish person. My family has always been mixed and always Jewish. We are Sephardim. Jews from North Africa that ended up in Spain, Italy and Portugal. And that is very common amongst Sephardim to be mixed. My Great Grandfather and Grandfather were Sephardim of Color. My Great First Cousin, was the Chief Rabbi of Boston. There are all kinds of people everywhere. I had heard of Fredi Washington and I am a huge fan of Eubie Blake, Noble Sisle's collaborator. I am from a neighborhood in Boston that was at one time a Black and also Jewish neighborhood. My family was not the only mixed Sephardic family in that neighborhood. I grew up believing and still believe that there is room for everyone on Planet Earth. I am a Professional Actor, Singer, Musician and Writer. The stereotypes and racist behavior still unfortunately continue in The Industry. Shalom. Take Care.

  • @NandiJohnston-p6f
    @NandiJohnston-p6f Рік тому +2

    3:31 we believe it... Marilyn's hips, shape... yep!

  • @rodb66
    @rodb66 Рік тому +10

    I saw the original "Imitation of Life" years after seeing the 1956 version.

    • @eshim3961
      @eshim3961 Рік тому +7

      Interestingly, in the 1959 version, two people were passing in one form or another. Susan Kohner, who played? Sarah Jane, was the daughter of a Mexican actress, and a Jewish movie producer (fun fact, she is the mother of the Weitz Brothers, who are very successful filmmakers today). John Gavin, who played Steve Archer, was 100% Latino, but changed his name to get roles in Hollywood. I guess life imitates art sometimes.

    • @moviegirl8648
      @moviegirl8648 Рік тому +3

      @@eshim3961 Good points!

  • @susanrike7476
    @susanrike7476 Рік тому +42

    Wasn't familiar with Fredi Washinton. So many major Hollywood actresses were mixed race (Asian, African-American, Native American) but it was kept hidden. Ironically, Ava Gardner claimed she was also but it didn't hurt her career. To this day, there are still too many issues around race and skin color. Read that biracial actress Lonette McKee felt her career was hindered by being too fair skinned. And that was fairly recently. Thanks, Karine, for profiling this courageous and talented actress.

  • @penelopeburnam6851
    @penelopeburnam6851 Рік тому +2

    Even now it's still hard, people are so colorist.

  • @wendyolmeda5069
    @wendyolmeda5069 10 місяців тому

    Thank you, great content.
    Growing up with light skin in a dark skinned family... isnt always easy.
    "You're adopted, they found you in the garbage, don't play with porcelain doll, you think you're better than us because you look white, you can just go be white."
    And this wasn't even in that time. Proud of her stand❤

  • @christineml1476
    @christineml1476 Рік тому +7

    She is so gorgeous. ❤

  • @tallie338
    @tallie338 Рік тому +2

    Praise God. She refuses to denied who the Most High God created her to be. Awesome.

  • @who8480
    @who8480 Рік тому +4

    Wow, I never heard of her . She looks like my older sister. Wow. And yes, And Both our parents are black .

  • @ravenrebel3183
    @ravenrebel3183 Рік тому +2

    She was so beautiful-my favorite from old Hollywood ❤️

  • @deellaboe437
    @deellaboe437 Рік тому +3

    I'm light bright. Some have called me white which I find offensive. We can definitely move differently. And get into places. But it's about what you do once in those positions.

  • @indiashante1560
    @indiashante1560 Рік тому +11

    She reminds me of my great grandmother. She was light skin with bright blue eyes. She definitely passed as white. When I was little my brother and I thought her and my grandma (green eyes) were white. Lol

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 11 місяців тому

      There's no such thing as "light skinned". Your great grand mother was a Mulatta/Quadroon . White Passing and Presenting are two different things. The racial integrity act of 1924 is what "one dropped" people like your grand mother into the black community by law. This ONLY LASTED FOR 43 years (ended in 1967). Yet until this very day black people weaponize it to their advantage. Make no mistake Mulatto and black are not the same and neither share the same history. Mulatto has been on the books since 1600s in the oringial colonies in this country. That's more than 300 years of history.

  • @shandahughes2886
    @shandahughes2886 Рік тому +4

    Good Bio ❤ and imitation of life always makes me cry when I watch it.

  • @brooklynhomesteader3721
    @brooklynhomesteader3721 Рік тому +2

    Great coverage. I always suspected Claudette Colbert as also passing too.

  • @sophiabogle2130
    @sophiabogle2130 Рік тому +1

    It’s still like that today !!! People are still passing

  • @Danadane314
    @Danadane314 Рік тому +2

    This was awesome! Thank you for such a job well done!
    I love your channel’s beauty and intellect. Colorism and racism are dumb.
    To racist people, we’re all the same.
    We’re not a monolith, but we certainly share important things our parents gave us, and
    that keeps us close. One of the things I’m most proud of is our brotherhood.

  • @ChyarasKiss
    @ChyarasKiss Рік тому +7

    I did a double take when you tried to pronounce Merle’s name. 😂
    It’s not Mar lay.
    Also, we can’t overlook the way whitepassing or light skinned people were treated in their own communities. For some, it forced them out. They were ‘Othered’. Not black enough. Etc.

    • @89five3five
      @89five3five Рік тому

      Imagine you are black man walking with a white looking girl during the height of Jim Crow. Can you imagine how dangerous that would be to the racists? Because all they would see is a n***er trying to rape a white woman.

  • @marietgagliardi
    @marietgagliardi Рік тому +1

    I never heard of Fredi and am so inspired by her story.

  • @angelaa.7352
    @angelaa.7352 Рік тому +6

    Omg i literally just thought about this movie today! It is such a wonderful movie! I could not remember what it was called. So interesting to hear the actress’s story.

  • @JoeJoe-ng9qb
    @JoeJoe-ng9qb 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for posting and narrating this!!! She is my hero.

  • @roskill3
    @roskill3 Рік тому +1

    A shame people thought they had to be live that way!! Glad to see women embrace who they were!!

  • @callmehplus
    @callmehplus Рік тому +5

    as a young teen in the 2000s this made me take a look about how art imitates life and also life imitates art.
    Imitation of life is a wonderful movies I ❤ this version with Fredi Washington as well as the 2nd version both are great the emotions 😢
    The second movie is in color with Ruby D in the 60s

  • @houseofdogzz5908
    @houseofdogzz5908 Рік тому +3

    She looks white. If she took an ancestry DNA test it would show that she is most like 95 percent Caucasian. I’m not sure how anyone would think she’s black. She should have just embraced both races. Not choosing one over the other. An appreciation for both would be most beneficial.

  • @JJW77
    @JJW77 Рік тому +10

    Great job as always, Karine! Could you do one on Anna May Wong - A quarter came out with her face on...

    • @KarineAlourde
      @KarineAlourde  Рік тому +6

      Yes she’s on my list possibly in April! She paved the way too and deserved much better 😢

    • @JJW77
      @JJW77 Рік тому +1

      I bet with your in-depth research on Anna May Wong and you being a gifted storyteller with heart - it going to be fabulous! I will probably be sending your Anna May Wong video to over 200 family and friends. The US mint just put out new quarters in her honor.

  • @erikadlloyd5586
    @erikadlloyd5586 Рік тому +44

    It is so frustrating that people still don't understand that Mexican is a nation/ nationally, not ethnicity. There are white Mexicans , Black / Afro Mexicans, and indigenous Mexicans. If Marilyn Monroe had a mother from Mexico, she is still of European heritage. So yes, a white person.

    • @auchiethomas2560
      @auchiethomas2560 Рік тому +4

      Alot of ppl use nationality to cover race their eg ppl from Dominica say I'm dominicana instead of saying I'm black. It's basically self denial due to social and racial crisis in that country

    • @erikadlloyd5586
      @erikadlloyd5586 Рік тому +2

      @Auchie Thomas OK, but we all understand that in the Dominican Republic is multi ethnic mix of people too. Most North and South America is because of colonialism.
      I'm racially ambiguous. I have to correct people a lot that I'm a USA national as much as any white person. And so are my African American/ Black ancestors. I love my multi ethnic gene pool.

    • @purplelove010
      @purplelove010 Рік тому +6

      @Auchie Thomas that because race is a man-made concept. We're really are just human. And when it's come to identity your ethnicity is who you truly are; not race.

    • @shopece8807
      @shopece8807 Рік тому +3

      @@erikadlloyd5586 exactly.....I know 2 afro-Mexican sisters (i'm here in the DC area). Both parents afro-Mexican. And I had a white Mexican chemistry teacher (most of their family were originally from Germany before coming 2 Mexico (vs Spaniard ancestry)).

    • @courtr1588
      @courtr1588 Рік тому

      Marilyn Monroe's mother was a White American woman. She was simply born across the border.

  • @analiesesimmerman9140
    @analiesesimmerman9140 Рік тому +3

    Especially in today's world, this applies demonstrability. We showed up on this planet in our form and it's up to us to be better people than the circumstances we were born into, who we were born to and our ancestorial past. We can make a difference and we need to work together rather than against each other.

  • @beautifulqueen4645
    @beautifulqueen4645 Рік тому +4

    Love her she was a phenomenal but gorgeous woman with excellent talent.

  • @Kayzblog
    @Kayzblog Рік тому +2

    This is so sad. I remember watching imitation of life a few months ago and I felt so sad😭. This video was really good all in all.

  • @LaLaVango
    @LaLaVango 15 днів тому

    Good for her, I’m glad she stood up for herself in such a tough era.

  • @amandanicolemorgan
    @amandanicolemorgan Рік тому +2

    Unfortunately, not much is changed many people still do whatever they can’t not identify as a fundamental black American❤

  • @nicolesherman8974
    @nicolesherman8974 Рік тому +16

    Hey sis 😘. I just got done watching your Joyce Bryant video and man was she a beauty ❤️❤️. I can’t wait to watch this video! I’ve been obsessing over vintage beauties lately and thank you for educating me on these forgotten ladies!

    • @KarineAlourde
      @KarineAlourde  Рік тому +3

      Thank you for watching sis! I got you 😘♥️

  • @dwaynesilva9203
    @dwaynesilva9203 Рік тому +9

    It's why we mixed people fight hard for our black side as well as the other half. I'm Native and black And i feel more black because i look like the "one drop rule",😂 but also feel native because i am and have some native features. I feel pride for both, But in the mits of the full looking ones, i feel like i'm sometimes excluded 😅 even had weird comments thrown at me by my own mixed family who are more on the Native looking side, while me and my youngest brother look mixed/black with the beautiful African hair.

    • @purplelove3666
      @purplelove3666 Рік тому +2

      How do you feel a color? Can you please Barry the black drop rule,it's not beneficial to black people.

    • @dwaynesilva9203
      @dwaynesilva9203 Рік тому +4

      ​@@purplelove3666 it's not that i feel a color. That's not what i mean. Your twisting my words. It's that i feel drawn towards one side more because i look black. It's the side of me that is obvious, because of my hair, my skin, nose,lips and so where i live people see me as black and treat me as such. I get all the "advantage" and disadvantage that comes with being black 😅. And if your black, you know what disadvantages. I go trough the same hardship and have the same history because it's what i am BLACK. Your probably not pure African either and so they call you black. I was being sarcastic with that "one drop rule" thing. I hate that concept of looking at people like that. I like the uniqueness in us human creatures. That we're all so different and yet the same. I like the differences in culture, but it's also one of the things that create fear and division in some people.

    • @CaliforniaGirl1
      @CaliforniaGirl1 Рік тому

      Uh ok. Black is black period.

    • @CaliforniaGirl1
      @CaliforniaGirl1 Рік тому

      @@dwaynesilva9203 black is black

    • @TobiasSaibot87
      @TobiasSaibot87 Рік тому +3

      ​@@dwaynesilva9203 I feel your pain because I am Black and Hispanic (Puerto Rican to be precise) and people try to lump me as one as I favor both sides

  • @365daysofjewelry3
    @365daysofjewelry3 Рік тому +5

    What a beautiful woman

  • @jackiemarx3312
    @jackiemarx3312 Рік тому +3

    I just want say thank you for showing us all the people of color who succeeded in an all white profession! I am white and I, as a little girl, use to cringe when I saw Afro American people playing maids, butler’s and etc… and not getting any recognition. Their recognition was given at their deaths or later even. Thank you so much for caring about everyone! ❤

  • @bcavalletti
    @bcavalletti Рік тому +3

    People still use "mulatto"? I'm biracial...my creole grandmother told me to not let anyone use that term when referring to me 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @AdrienSamuel-d7q
      @AdrienSamuel-d7q 10 місяців тому

      Mulltao. I. Heard. Was. A. Less. Threaten. Black. Human being. The. Passive. Black. No. Problem. Black. No. Fight. Back. Black. Do. Anything. Too. Mulltao. That's. What. A. Mixed. Girl. Said. On. UA-cam

  • @davidfoley726
    @davidfoley726 Рік тому +2

    Joan Crawford( Lucille LeSueur was her real name) born in San Antonio , of Louisiana Creole descent. Look at the early pictures of her . Ava Gardner, Mae West, Carol Channing , Clark Gable and the list goes on.

  • @americasmaker
    @americasmaker Рік тому +4

    Fredi Washington wasn't biracial. She was black American.

  • @cookingwithnae2298
    @cookingwithnae2298 Рік тому +3

    My Black is Beautiful !!! even though I'm high yella. Growing up I faced all kinds of colorism. Ive never known my white birth mom but my mama was dark skin....bc of her I know who I am. ❤

  • @edglebennett6312
    @edglebennett6312 Рік тому +3

    @Karine Alourde what a fabulous video! Thank you for educating the sheep.

  • @paulaholland
    @paulaholland Рік тому

    I loved her in Imitation of Life! Much respect for Miss Washington!!!

  • @venus3089
    @venus3089 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, Karine for your wonderful videos. I would love to see a video on Beautiful Dona Drake/ Rita Rio who passed for white to make it in Hollywood. She was a Swing band leader dancer, actress, singer.

  • @SLam-ve3yp
    @SLam-ve3yp Рік тому +4

    She's neither black or white. She's mix race. Let's get real here and respect that she is neither.

  • @antisocial_socialite
    @antisocial_socialite Рік тому +13

    Imitation of Life is such a profound movie. My mom made me watch it when I was little and I just recently watched it again. The end of that movie is so heartbreaking.
    EDIT: I went to Julia Richman High School!!

  • @anseasal77
    @anseasal77 Рік тому

    Once again an awesome video. And another movie to investigate and watch, enriching the cultural knowledge of my family. You are appreciated!

  • @sonyamoyler9237
    @sonyamoyler9237 Рік тому +3

    Awesome History thank you so much for sharing, love you ❤️

  • @Chutney1luv
    @Chutney1luv 10 місяців тому +1

    Karine, I appreciate your narration of Fredi's biography! She was beautiful and stood in her truth! Unfortunately, a lot of people back then, didn't!
    The cruelty shown to black was essesive. Some people passed to survived racism! Anyone who has roots in this country for over 200 years knows the reason why.
    You will be shocked at who is passing in the real world today! Like you said; "They will name every other race but black!"
    My grandmother had blond hair and blue eyes, and no one ever believed that she was black. She looked just like Doris Day; so I know Fredi's story very well! Thank you for posting.

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 10 місяців тому

      "My grandmother had blonde hair and blue eyes, and no one ever believed that she was black".
      That's because she is NOT black and if she does have black in her she is a Mulatto /quadroon or octoroon (mixed race). Can you please let me know the metric you are using to identify your grandmother as black? It sure sounds like you are utilizing the racist 1924 racial integrity act aka one drop rule (which only lasted a measly 43 years).
      Speaking of 200 years, I think you need to tighten up on North American history because Mulatto has been on documents since atleast the 1600s in English, French, and Spanish colonies in current day United States. Your passing comment isn't 100% accurate. In the English colonies there was a loop hole that allowed mulattos born to a white mother to be free whole those who were born to a black mother were born into slavery.

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 10 місяців тому

      Maybe you should start actually taking some pride in your mulatto roots and stop kissing black people's rear end. It was literally mulattos that led blacks into the future in this country and well before slavery ended.

  • @1snikta
    @1snikta Рік тому +1

    I learned a lot tonight... great video! Glad i watched..