David Gilmour Overdrive Comparison (BD-2 vs. TD-Y vs. Plexi-Drive vs. Charlie Brown vs. Crayon)

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  • @mustyguitar
    @mustyguitar  Рік тому +6

    Did you like this comparison? Which one is your favorite overdrive pedal? What comparison would you like to see next?
    I want to point out that there isn't a single mix in this video. It's just straight out of amp. With a little post eq and mixing, these sounds would be A LOT better!
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  • @oscarlanza-galindo3004
    @oscarlanza-galindo3004 Рік тому +3

    For my ear, the BD2 into the JHS are my favorite. I admit my bias, too. I have the BD2-W, and keep it on craft mode. I was struggling with the JHS CBrown for a while, and finally decided to do the same as you and just use it as a boost, and when I shifted my perspective and switched to using it as a boost, my playing opened up. Also trying the combination with an Ibanez MiniTS. Thanks for making such a fabulous video.

  • @BorysOliinyk
    @BorysOliinyk Рік тому +6

    Thanks so much for this comparison, really good work was done!
    For me EHX Crayon sound really awesome in Have a Cigar rhythm, I want to listen to it again and again
    Also seems like TD-Y can do everything, for me it sounds like a universal pedal for PF tones
    But actually, I only have BD-2, and that’s enough for me )
    Please make more videos like this!

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому

      thank you! I agree, td-y is my latest addition and becoming my favorite!

  • @rikmcrae
    @rikmcrae Рік тому +2

    Blind test I preferred TD-Y, which I was very happy about. My board has TD-Y and original Buffalo TD-X. I also have Buffalo Patriot in front. 👍

  • @charlesockholmes9764
    @charlesockholmes9764 Рік тому +4

    I loved your comparison! BD-2 and Charlie sound amazing together!

  • @lewos03
    @lewos03 Рік тому +3

    Favourite is definitly the TD-Y, I bought one after seeing your review on it a few months ago. Some of my favourite tones are the really bright 2016 pompeii tones and I think it nails it the best.

  • @crapmalls
    @crapmalls 6 місяців тому +1

    BD2 followed by charlie brown! My ears didnt fail me i already liked them ☃️

  • @arbous65
    @arbous65 5 місяців тому

    Wow! What a great review! Thanks so much for putting such effort to compare these. I use Plexi and Crayon. I would say both are geared toward mid-influenced tones. In Crayon the manufacturer must have designed it to literally limit the high frequency transparency and as a result the payoff is smoothness. It's hard to beat that pedal in smoothness department. Also it limits some of the low end so it is useful for neck pickup or taming the fat tone of Green Russian (I put it downstream of Green Russian). For transparent ones (BD-2 and TD-Y) I think BD-2 has a fantastic uniqueness oozing that bluesy tone. TD-Y has a rounder sound and fatness frequency sit well with enough transparency (tone is carefully tailored) but it is a boutique pedal pricewise if I remember correctly. Charlie Brown is a very natural and mature sounding dirt pedal but as you tested the gain is limited so it reduces its versatility. May be for a non-Gilmour situation boosting it to a gained amp would reveal some of its potential. When you put them in series I felt you took away the beautiful transparency of BD-2. I would say if you like to get the good of both pedals since each pedal offer a bit different accentuation of frequencies put them in parallel. I use Y cable although buying a dedicated pedal for that is probably better for tone quality. I would say parallel setup of the king of transparency (BD-2) with the king of smoothness (Crayon) would be a great combo, or TD-Y and Crayon. I have a bit of gripe toward Plexidrive because its nasal 2k to 2.5k bump is so annoying, remind me of chihuahua yapping (mine is the beige color not sure may be it is the older version and they made it sound better later), may be because I was trying to get a bit more transparency of high frequencies and cranked up the tone knob too far but this pedal deserves to have a better EQ. I will couple it with a GE-7, will try to see if I can get better frequency balance next time. I also use Vick Audio Overdriver and that one has a transparency that can go well with EHX Crayon so I may just pass on the Plexidrive pedal. The other thing that makes me become tired of a pedal (in this case Plexidrive) is if it has too much compression because it creates a bit of pigeon hole for the tone character. That's why creating a parallel setup helps to put one transparent and less compressed tone pedal and one smoother / more compressed tone pedal together, and with changing playing technique you end up having lots of variations in tone and dynamics.

  • @OgamiItto70
    @OgamiItto70 9 місяців тому

    Blind taste test: Pedal C keeps coming up as the most euphonious. The others sound brighter. Maybe a bit too bright. All the way up to icepick in the ear bright.
    After test: Interesting. The Plexi-Drive. It was my favorite. Smooth and warm. Kind of reminiscent of _Pulse/Remember That Night._
    Of course that's through _your_ amp and speaker. Through _my_ amp(s) and speaker(s) and with a slight nudge of a tone knob here or an EQ pedal there and this could all change drastically. Still, a worthwhile comparison video. Thanks for posting it.

  • @rickwininger2111
    @rickwininger2111 Рік тому +1

    I love all of your videos. Ive been to Gilmourish, and a couple of others. You however, give some actual comparisons so that when we are ready to dial in our tones, we have a better idea what we need to shoot for us mere mortals. Thank You

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому +1

      thank you Rick, though, you can't think like that, Mr. Bjorn is a professional musician (who happen to be one of my favorite guitar player), I just share what I like!

  • @richardsmith-to1fk
    @richardsmith-to1fk Рік тому +1

    Awesome video. Great format. Per your recommendation I have bd 2 and c brown but the wampler is nice with that extra tube boost mid in the tone.

  • @mehranmohamadi7993
    @mehranmohamadi7993 Рік тому +2

    The crayon on the full bridge pickup sounds fantastic
    I think The wampler sounds well in any position..

  • @stevehollx
    @stevehollx Рік тому

    This video is awesome, and the format is really original with the blind test like this. Come to find out, I own 2 of the pedals in my top 3.
    EHX crayon sounds anemic to me. The versatility in the BD2 is immense as it can be the snarliest as seen here, or just a warm push.

  • @MusicFed
    @MusicFed Рік тому

    The Wampler sounds the “fullest” to me.
    More full bodied tone and less thin sounding
    Amazing pedal in this test

  • @ApexBeast35
    @ApexBeast35 Рік тому +2

    Guessed tdy immadiately, imo perfect pedal for this territory. So i built my own clone :)

  • @onegirl_oneguitar
    @onegirl_oneguitar Рік тому

    I think BD-2 and Charlie Brown together, then TD-Y and I agreed all your comments through the vid :)

  • @timbennett6644
    @timbennett6644 Рік тому +1

    B and C for the blind test. love the wampler. i recognized the tdy as its on my board.

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому

      yeah in my head wampler and td-y sounds close too, love em both

  • @JonasKvinge
    @JonasKvinge Рік тому +3

    My favorite is the BK Butler Tube Driver, works great even at lower volumes. I have the Blues Driver but I think it's too harsh sounding.

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому +1

      yeah blues driver is sometimes harsh, though, with low volumes it sounds really great and round on top end.

  • @Alfgunnarp
    @Alfgunnarp 8 місяців тому

    The Crayon sounds amazing!

  • @orpheus1340
    @orpheus1340 10 місяців тому

    Man, great video, as always! You really take the time to showcase all of them, and now it's your fault I want 2 more than I did! ^^
    The BD is a classic of course, I didn't imagine it on PF but it does work. The Pastfx is great, I knew that from your previous video. But I was surprised by the Crayon, seems crazy good for the price! Should I wait though and just get the TD-Y, or maybe another G-2 clone (I'm getting into DIY pedals and found one...)?

    • @orpheus1340
      @orpheus1340 6 місяців тому

      So, I did buy the Crayon and the Blues Driver. :) No regrets there, especially for the Crayon: it's so polyvalent! I took my TS clone off of my board, this one can do that and much more. And BTW, the Charly Brown is the one that sounds the less interesting in your demo.

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 Рік тому +1

    You're slowly selling me on the Charlie Brown

  • @TheRobertBone
    @TheRobertBone Рік тому +1

    For me D had it on the blind test - and surprised to see it was the Boss Blues Driver

  • @ugur.kozbey
    @ugur.kozbey 2 місяці тому

    Hocam selamlar, Plexi driver için geldim. Blind Test'te hoşuma giden pedal olarak Plexi'yi görünce epey şaşırdım. Bu arada BD-2'yu ben de severim.

  • @colej3360
    @colej3360 11 місяців тому

    C and D from the blind test we’re fantastic.

  • @arnulfoldo
    @arnulfoldo Рік тому +1

    Congrats man, what an amazing video! Hard to find actual good gear comparisons these days. I'll be sure to check more of your content!
    Lately I've been looking for a solid overdrive for Pink Floyd and other 70's rock tones and this will sure help! Wampler PD and PastFX pedals sound amazing, had not heard of them.
    Thanks for the video and keep up the good work!

  • @JonasKvinge
    @JonasKvinge Рік тому +2

    I've watched this 4-5 times now, and based on your video I think I'll rate them in the following order:
    1. TD-Y
    2. Plexi-Drive
    3. Crayon
    4. Charlie Brown
    5. Blues Driver
    Even though I think the Plexi Drive and Crayon are somewhat equal, I think the TD-Y definitely is a bit better. But I could probably go for all 3.
    The blues driver is the only one I got of these, and it's my least favorite of these. But with your playing and tone skills you make everything sound awesome.
    I'm considering buying the TD-Y and maybe also the Crayon as alternatives to the BK Butler Tube Driver.
    How does the Boss OD-3 compare to these?
    Have you tried the TC Electronic Tube Pilot?

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому +1

      give some love to blues driver 😢
      od-3 has a big mid hump, it's not as ideal as td-y or plexi-drive for gilmour tones, but like what I said with sd-1 in the video, od-3 can be of help if your amp is not responding well to mid scooped or flat eq pedals.
      I haven't tried tube pilot. when I think about tc electronics, all I see in my head is delay units, lol. they make excellent pedals probably.

  • @jawshhedd7339
    @jawshhedd7339 7 місяців тому

    Due to different things being played with different pick attacks and differences in how long notes are allowed to ring out, it makes it trickier to notices the differences, which I think was on purpose. But, if you listen closely you can hear it, aside from a couple that are definitely interchangeable, but might not be using a different guitar/amp/other pedals

  • @chrisradzion2148
    @chrisradzion2148 Рік тому +1

    The Crayon and the BD2 are the most economical and available of the bunch. They’re the two pedals I’ve used that can really come close to nailing both PowerBoost and Tube Driver tones. That said, if you want to go with the Crayon, spend a little extra and get the Hot Wax. It’s a dual overdrive of the Crayon and Hot Tubes. You can use them separate or together, and it’s so versatile. It also offers the Hot Tubes with a 2 band EQ rather than just one tone control. Both are so close to the PowerBoost (there’s something missing I can’t put my finger on), and the Crayon in particular comes extremely close to my Tube Driver.

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому +1

      you know Chrish, you're goddamn right. Hot Tubes is really good and I even own one, but I lend it to one of my friends so it wasn't on this shootout. I should check that he literally stole it from me probably...

  • @burt2800
    @burt2800 Рік тому

    Could have sworn D was the PLexi-Drive because it seemed to have more mids. But this test just goes to show how close different pedals can sound in a mix and that we maybe shouldn't obsess so hard over them.

  • @ac30helix44
    @ac30helix44 Рік тому

    Nice review. I built a clone of the buffalo fx TDX - super pedal.

  • @dennis1954
    @dennis1954 Рік тому +2

    Blind test, Wampler Plexi then Charlie Brown.

  • @Baker5874
    @Baker5874 Рік тому

    awesome, thanks!

  • @ig0rOck
    @ig0rOck Рік тому +1

    I may be the odd one out, but I liked plexi drive way more than others for all covers that you've played.

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому

      you think so? well, truth is out there! I myself love the pedal as well.

    • @ig0rOck
      @ig0rOck Рік тому

      @@mustyguitar maybe it's because you didn't use any post-EQ as you mentioned in the disclaimer, and this pedal has the least amount of highs (does it, by the way?) and it sounds a little bit more pleasant to my ears. Nonetheless I will definitely try this one, thanks!

  • @aerialpictures_drone_videos
    @aerialpictures_drone_videos 5 місяців тому

    Love the BD2, that i have...also the JHS pedal sounds good to my ears, thinking about getting the TD-Y, would it be worth already owning BD2 and Crazy Tube Circuits hi power?

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  5 місяців тому +1

      I'd get it if I had the budget for it. it will give you that endless river, division bell, pulse, gdansk sounds better than the other 2

    • @aerialpictures_drone_videos
      @aerialpictures_drone_videos 5 місяців тому

      @@mustyguitar Thank you so much!

  • @ChrisRash
    @ChrisRash Рік тому

    A rat with LED clipping is a great OD pedal in the low gain settings. I use a modified Mostortion as my main OD pedal

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому

      I tried using a rat with low gain, it sounds really good, kinda like a tube screamer though.

    • @ChrisRash
      @ChrisRash Рік тому

      @@mustyguitar if you do the Ruetz mod to a rat, you can turn down that mid peak

  • @ThePokeCzech
    @ThePokeCzech 8 місяців тому

    Please get a Boss OD-200 to review. It's got like 10+ overdrives to choose from. It's a digital pedal, but most or all of the overdrive circuitry is analog.
    I'd love to see what you could do with a pedal like that. They're not too expensive either. You could just sell a couple of those overdrives you're not using.

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  8 місяців тому

      Thank you! You are so generous
      I’ll try to get one of course, but you don’t say “sell” to a pedal nerd. That’s a big no no :))

    • @ThePokeCzech
      @ThePokeCzech 8 місяців тому

      @@mustyguitar Okay, you can "trade" for it. 😉

  • @HyperTrendz
    @HyperTrendz 10 місяців тому

    Amazing, just ordered TD-Y
    can you please share you setting on the pedal and mooer ensemble king for Coming back to life and PULSE tones?

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  10 місяців тому

      my chorus almost never changes, depth around 1-2 o'clock, rate around 11 o'clock. level to your taste.

  • @fretlvlmidnight
    @fretlvlmidnight Рік тому +1

    Would love to see a shootout of several rams head variations

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому

      ow yeah! plexi-drive is something else I guess...

  • @timbennett6644
    @timbennett6644 Рік тому +2

    Blind test for me was B and C

    • @RodStewart_Geek
      @RodStewart_Geek Рік тому

      Same for me. A and E were both kind of piercing and harsh to me. I dig both B and C, with D also being favorable.

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому +1

      @@RodStewart_Geek I guess it's not just me, plexi and td-y are close to each other

  • @fmartinbr
    @fmartinbr Рік тому

    Why so many OD pedals? They all sound veeeery similiar!
    Seriously... It's almost impossible to tell one from another unless you're a pro with very specialized gear and well trained ears!
    The secret is in your hands!!!
    Btw... You should make an OD giveaway =)

  • @allboutthemojo
    @allboutthemojo Рік тому

    A test is better when you play the exact same riff when switching pedals. Impossible to pick a winner this way !

  • @kkrsnn5632
    @kkrsnn5632 Рік тому

    I just tune down my distortion. BTW I heard an opinion that distortion doesn't suit single coil pickups, what do you think about it?

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому

      that's bs. not my type of tone, but a rat with a telecaster or a classic strat sounds perfect

  • @fretlvlmidnight
    @fretlvlmidnight Рік тому

    The Dover Drive is a game changer for Tube Driver clones

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому

      I couldn't find one back when I started playing, so I gave up hope...

    • @fretlvlmidnight
      @fretlvlmidnight Рік тому

      Same issues I'm dealing with trying to find an older TD-Y 😅

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому +1

      @@fretlvlmidnight why older td-y? new one has the old version it it already (as far as I know, I only have the v1)

    • @fretlvlmidnight
      @fretlvlmidnight Рік тому

      @Mustafa Can Kaya I guess it really doesn't matter, I just probably wouldn't use the mids eq on the new version

  • @whatisthenork
    @whatisthenork Рік тому +1

    TD-Y all the way

    • @745bob
      @745bob Рік тому +1

      Hey T , do you still think the Elastic is the best Flanger for Gilmour? or do you have a new recommendation? I saw some of your posts on TGP?

    • @whatisthenork
      @whatisthenork Рік тому

      @Bob Absolutely! The Elastic Mattress is not only my favorite Mistress V2 style flanger, it's my favorite modulation pedal overall. The blend knob and brightness control are so wonderful for finding that sweet spot. Hit it with a PastFx TD-Y, Revolution, or Patriarch and you can nail all the key eras of Gilmour's live and studio sound. Their 18V Power Booster is a winner too.

    • @Twylightt
      @Twylightt 2 місяці тому

      @@whatisthenorkhave you try de new version of retro-sonic flanger?

  • @JR_Taylor
    @JR_Taylor Рік тому

    Are you using the stock speaker. If not, whats loaded please

  • @john_sandilau
    @john_sandilau Рік тому +1

    What pickups do you have on the blue strat?

  • @HackTheSystem-kw1nb
    @HackTheSystem-kw1nb Рік тому

    I like how straightforward this guy is. LOL hahahaha 18:09
    again at 18:30 hahaha

  • @Lander-bo2rq
    @Lander-bo2rq Рік тому +1

    ok, so here are my thoughts on this. boss bd 2 on its own sounded good but it sounded way to gainy for some tones. the blues driver with charlie brown sounds a little thin for my taste but still sounds close. the charlie brown by itself sounds good but like you said not enough gain. it feels like charlie brown would be good to get like the clean solo tone of echoes solos 1 and 4. past fx tdy sounds the best with shine on you crazy diamond (in my opinion) and sounds like it could cover power boost and tube driver tones. my personal favorite version of shine on you crazy diamond is between live at the royal alburt hall and gdansk which are two very similar sounds in itself (because gilmour used emgs and the tube driver) but i think i like live at royal alburt hall more and i think the tdy can get that tone. the ehx crayon sounds good itself, but i kinda feel like theres the problem of too much volume not enough gain. the plexi drive does an amazing job of covering the tones sounds like the tdy but like you said seems limited by its tone knob. i have to ask the question of have you tried these pedals in a studio setup? personally at my house i have more of a studio setup because im a high schooler and i perform at my school (plus my dad doesn't mind) and i would love to know which one you think covers good in a studio setup if you have done it before or not or a personal opinion on which might give me that edge.

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому +1

      this is what I like, detailed comment!
      I agree with almost everything you say, especially on crayon, it's got a volume that's huge and gain around medium probably.
      I tried them all in a studio situation and charlie brown sounded best for me, thickest and fattest overdrive but not mid humpy like tube screamer, a real jtm45 type tone. bd-2 sounded it needs a little eq, crayon was okay I guess, plexi-drive sounded awesome, just like a plexi, it doesn't get like plexi crazy tone though because pedal is insanely smooth on high gain, you don't get that wild crazy top end. td-y is my latest addition, I tried it a little in the studio with a 20w amp, it sounded perfect but I still need time to make comment, I don't want to misinform.

  • @DavidMadeira29
    @DavidMadeira29 Рік тому

    Keep fuzzin', because I wouldn't put granola on my ice cream, either ways...

  • @rogeriosartori555
    @rogeriosartori555 Рік тому

    I liked them all EXCEPT the boss. My God, it sounded terrible to me!

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 Рік тому

    C and A 1st equal.
    D and E 3rd equal.
    B least favorite.
    All usable.

  • @JR_Taylor
    @JR_Taylor Рік тому

    A sounds good to me and c

    • @mustyguitar
      @mustyguitar  Рік тому +1

      honestly, I watched the video again and was really surprised how great crayon sounds, I might use it more and more. lol.

  • @ladoppiobemolle
    @ladoppiobemolle Рік тому

    good.
    My taste at blind test:
    C
    E
    A
    B
    D
    I'm curious to see what they are

  • @rodrigo666godoy
    @rodrigo666godoy Рік тому

    BD2 won for me...

  • @TheJudy79
    @TheJudy79 7 місяців тому

    Not the same comparison some have more nobs

  • @Samana009
    @Samana009 Рік тому

    There is no difference between any of them. Never heard a thing so similar...

    • @crapmalls
      @crapmalls 6 місяців тому

      Nor does gilmour use any of them lol

    • @s0da.-.
      @s0da.-. 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@crapmallsReally? So gilmour never used a tube driver? Cause the td-y is a clone of that😂

    • @crapmalls
      @crapmalls 3 місяці тому

      @@s0da.-. Ive had a tdy and i have 2 tube drivers. Its not a clone its an interpretation. Theyre good pedals but just get real ones 🤷‍♂️