My coworker had that on the fieldpiece pump and ended up having to send it in for the power board to be replaced. Happened again and they sent him a new one. He had to threaten to never buy another product since it was costing him time on jobs. So far so good on that one I think.
I have the same vacuum pump and used my a few weeks ago on a GFI. Ran for about 30 minutes and tripped. Never had that happen before and I thought but pump died at first. I plugged into a different GFI nearby and it ran fine. Might just be some GFI's.
Can you provide more details about what happened or but symptoms led you to know the evap was oil logged? Was the TXV restriction due to the oil? Do you know how the evap became oil logged? I think I might be having a similar issue on a system I am working on?
Nice video Jeff for future reference In case you come across another one of those situations and need to flush the evaporator or linesets from a txv or compressor failure you may want to go to auto zone or advance auto and Pick up one or 2 cans of ac pro system flush then run the nitrogen but then you have to vac out the system for 40 minutes and ac pro does offer them I. Big gallon sizes too and you would just need a flushing gun too add solution to as I think it's a good idea as a precaution to flush the linesets out also before installing the new compressor and filter dryer as a precaution I know on cars if a compressor fails or an evaporator you always do a ac system flush. But with new cars you can't flush the new condensers you Just have to replace them but I can get replacements from spectra for around 100 dollars evaporators around the same slightly less And 4 seasons makes automotive compressors wish residenrial hvac had more of those options for older units. So those r 22 and older 410 a units can keep going as for your blueon video I need to do my research to see if it will work with poe oil as well and if it can work as a replacement for 410 a
@@JeffsHVACAdventuresjust did some research on the blueon stuff it looks like thats the one for a replacement for R 22 it does say it has lower pressures than r 22 to help preserve system components from your blueon video and that you can put more I. For a charge VS r 22 and that it reduces the power draw VS r 22. And here is what's messed up 15 years later they finally come up with a better refrigerent VS R 22 and better than 410 a that's not flammable and has a even lower gdp VS 410 a but the same crap that started with r 22 replacement refrigerents is now happening with 410a and Jeff I think part of the reason so many evap coils and condenser micro channels are going bad and all these system problems are is because of the higher pressures from the low and high side it's tougher on the compressors coils and txv valves VS the older systems so if their was a, way to just make blueon the standard and come up with switches to change for 410 a systems that would help along with the inverter technology. I have Been looking at the so called 410 a refrigerents replacements and the only one that shows promise to me is r466a but it is not available here yet and is not approved yet but has been tested in a trane rooftop unit that is intended for 410a. Butvthe question concerning blueon is can you use it with a, system for which the compressor was replaced with poe oil because from what I understand 407c is getting phazed out too. Anyway Jeff if you have older r 22 systems it's better to keep em going at this point and repair em and use blueon VS all this crap going on unless the system is totally dead it's best to keep em going.
Just checked blueon is compatable with both poe and mineral oil so why the heck are they just not coming up with sensors that can be put on 410a systems to allow them to run optimally at lower pressures and that just be the refrigerant for both r 22 replacement and 410 a replacement. And then the American companies can kick butt again and stop the forcing of everything needing to be made in Japan or China.
@@JeffsHVACAdventures I hope so it needs to have lower head pressures and work better than 410 it needs to be the equivalent of the r 22 replacement or better. The closest thing I have seen is r 466a that honeywell has been testing with trane but that's still not good enough and is getting a lot of push back and I gave looked at the r 454 b or whatever and I don't like it at all and I defenetely don't like r 32 by itself it's too flammable and too much risk even with sensors that supposedly shuts off the system but here's the problem what if someone accidentally sets a match off or something or an electric spark happens from a bad wire connection that could trigger an explosion like with propane or natural gas. Because that's what r 32 is. To a degree it has way more propane in it VS 410 a which does contain r 32 but it also has r 134 a which is what my car uses too.
In what way did the compressor fail. Was it a short to ground, lost compression, won't start? Was it noisy and on the way out? I am assuming compressor was running and pumping because I don't know how a txv can be condemned if there is no compression or compressor doesn't run at all unless the bulb line is visually broken. A lot of oilt in that dang thing for sure. I have had few oil logged evaporator coils that jad to he replaced, could never get it all on a few
I don’t know why Carrier switched to LG compressors you should have asked for a Copeland and paid extra for it for a better quality compressor and went away with LG LG should just stick to tv’s and stop making compressors and a suction line trap isn’t actually a bad thing on the evaporator since that happened it’s probably better to have one than to not have one on it
My coworker had that on the fieldpiece pump and ended up having to send it in for the power board to be replaced. Happened again and they sent him a new one. He had to threaten to never buy another product since it was costing him time on jobs. So far so good on that one I think.
Glad he got it straightened out.
As always Jeff good job getting the costumer up and going
Thanks brother
nice video,Check for oil traps on the line set in the attic.
Good idea.
I have the same vacuum pump and used my a few weeks ago on a GFI. Ran for about 30 minutes and tripped. Never had that happen before and I thought but pump died at first. I plugged into a different GFI nearby and it ran fine. Might just be some GFI's.
Yea that’s what I’m thinking. Some GFIs are fine and some trip.
Have the same issue with mine. Returned it for replacement
I’ve had mine a couple years. Kinda just deal with it at this point
My fieldpiece pump trips them too and I've always wondered why. Great video and keep up the good work
Certainly weird. Thanks
I have to use a widow maker for my field piece pump. Just got used to it now after 1 yr of use
My fieldpiece vacuum pump does the exact same thing with the GFCI
It's the ramp up of the motor. Gfci react to increases in electrical draw that cause it to trip
Great job 😊in the pickup
Thanks brother
Great video. Thank you for sharing
You are a pro brother
Thanks man.
Can you provide more details about what happened or but symptoms led you to know the evap was oil logged? Was the TXV restriction due to the oil? Do you know how the evap became oil logged? I think I might be having a similar issue on a system I am working on?
So the compressor failed and the TXV was changed with it as a precaution.
i have the same field piece pump - it trips most all gfis on startup
Weird right…
Hope you don’t have to go back to do a coil, that would just be a whole new h it at that point good thing them things come with 10 year warrenties
So far so good.
Nice video Jeff for future reference In case you come across another one of those situations and need to flush the evaporator or linesets from a txv or compressor failure you may want to go to auto zone or advance auto and Pick up one or 2 cans of ac pro system flush then run the nitrogen but then you have to vac out the system for 40 minutes and ac pro does offer them I. Big gallon sizes too and you would just need a flushing gun too add solution to as I think it's a good idea as a precaution to flush the linesets out also before installing the new compressor and filter dryer as a precaution I know on cars if a compressor fails or an evaporator you always do a ac system flush. But with new cars you can't flush the new condensers you Just have to replace them but I can get replacements from spectra for around 100 dollars evaporators around the same slightly less
And 4 seasons makes automotive compressors wish residenrial hvac had more of those options for older units.
So those r 22 and older 410 a units can keep going as for your blueon video I need to do my research to see if it will work with poe oil as well and if it can work as a replacement for 410 a
Good Advice.
@@JeffsHVACAdventuresjust did some research on the blueon stuff it looks like thats the one for a replacement for R 22 it does say it has lower pressures than r 22 to help preserve system components from your blueon video and that you can put more I. For a charge VS r 22 and that it reduces the power draw VS r 22.
And here is what's messed up 15 years later they finally come up with a better refrigerent VS R 22 and better than 410 a that's not flammable and has a even lower gdp VS 410 a
but the same crap that started with r 22 replacement refrigerents is now happening with 410a and Jeff I think part of the reason so many evap coils and condenser micro channels are going bad and all these system problems are is because of the higher pressures from the low and high side it's tougher on the compressors coils and txv valves VS the older systems so if their was a, way to just make blueon the standard and come up with switches to change for 410 a systems that would help along with the inverter technology.
I have Been looking at the so called 410 a refrigerents replacements and the only one that shows promise to me is r466a but it is not available here yet and is not approved yet but has been tested in a trane rooftop unit that is intended for 410a.
Butvthe question concerning blueon is can you use it with a, system for which the compressor was replaced with poe oil because from what I understand 407c is getting phazed out too.
Anyway Jeff if you have older r 22 systems it's better to keep em going at this point and repair em and use blueon VS all this crap going on unless the system is totally dead it's best to keep em going.
Just checked blueon is compatable with both poe and mineral oil so why the heck are they just not coming up with sensors that can be put on 410a systems to allow them to run optimally at lower pressures and that just be the refrigerant for both r 22 replacement and 410 a replacement. And then the American companies can kick butt again and stop the forcing of everything needing to be made in Japan or China.
@gabrielstern4992 good stuff brother. Blueon says they are working on a 410a replacement for what it’s worth.
@@JeffsHVACAdventures I hope so it needs to have lower head pressures and work better than 410 it needs to be the equivalent of the r 22 replacement or better.
The closest thing I have seen is r 466a that honeywell has been testing with trane but that's still not good enough and is getting a lot of push back and I gave looked at the r 454 b or whatever and I don't like it at all and I defenetely don't like r 32 by itself it's too flammable and too much risk even with sensors that supposedly shuts off the system but here's the problem what if someone accidentally sets a match off or something or an electric spark happens from a bad wire connection that could trigger an explosion like with propane or natural gas.
Because that's what r 32 is. To a degree it has way more propane in it VS 410 a which does contain r 32 but it also has r 134 a which is what my car uses too.
In what way did the compressor fail. Was it a short to ground, lost compression, won't start? Was it noisy and on the way out? I am assuming compressor was running and pumping because I don't know how a txv can be condemned if there is no compression or compressor doesn't run at all unless the bulb line is visually broken. A lot of oilt in that dang thing for sure. I have had few oil logged evaporator coils that jad to he replaced, could never get it all on a few
The compressor was changed because we didn’t know how long it ran with no oil and in a vacuum with a clogged TXV
@@JeffsHVACAdventures I got ya, so it was more of a recommendation to prevent future headache. Got ya. Thanks for the reply back
great video!
Thanks
I don’t know why Carrier switched to LG compressors you should have asked for a Copeland and paid extra for it for a better quality compressor and went away with LG LG should just stick to tv’s and stop making compressors and a suction line trap isn’t actually a bad thing on the evaporator since that happened it’s probably better to have one than to not have one on it
It's not that your pump dislikes GFI's, the GFI's don't like your pump. Call Fieldpiece
lol. Yea I was thinking that.