How Milling Heads and Valve Job Effects Flow (LS3 Heads)

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  • @michaelcasella4774
    @michaelcasella4774 3 роки тому +5

    Boy that last tid bit was funny love the enthusiasm!

  • @jakewade7388
    @jakewade7388 3 роки тому +5

    Sometimes you seem like an angry person yet comical at the same time. It is entertaining for sure. Keep the videos rolling. I look forward to them and I appreciate what you do.

  • @highrzr
    @highrzr 3 роки тому +5

    Amen brother on the "meat isn't supposed to be sweet"!

  • @wheels2199
    @wheels2199 3 роки тому +3

    Holy shit,, I thought I was the only one who thought this way!! If I want sweet I will eat candy!! The other thing is Citrus. It does NOT belong on meat 🍖 or any other food cooked over a flame!!! If I want citrus flavor I’ll eat an orange, I don’t want my chicken to taste like an orange or lemon for that matter. I’m with you 100% on the food. Eddie wheels 😬🧑🏻‍🦽👍

  • @nova467spanker
    @nova467spanker 3 роки тому

    Eric Weingartner your rant is spot on. On any steak just a sprinkle of kosher salt and a sprinkle of pepper on the medium cooked beauty and THAT'S IT!!! And whoever douses their meats with A1 or any other BBQ crap sauces needs a back slap with a welding glove.
    My wife is a chef and she laughed with your rant. She makes some killer sauces that would make you forget about ever going to another restaurant. I do not like blue cheese for wings, not on a salad or anything else but I do like Red Robins Black 'N Blue burger.

  • @chielgerritsen9026
    @chielgerritsen9026 3 роки тому +1

    old is gold with machining by hand

  • @dennisrobinson8008
    @dennisrobinson8008 11 місяців тому

    With a cam that does just under .600" lift or maybe right at, how does the better low and mid lift flow of the LS7 head affect power versus the LS3 head?

  • @whoify
    @whoify 2 роки тому

    How much did you pay for the chuck ?? Upgrade ??

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 Рік тому

    I've always wondered how much flow would improve if the factory valve job was given a performance valve job. Interesting.
    Also, I used to own a Sioux valve grinding kit. It was at least 40 years old when my Dad bought it at a garage sale for $20!

  • @Torquemonster440
    @Torquemonster440 3 роки тому +2

    Yep.. I'm that guy.. Freakin love sweet glazed Salmon !! Grilled right, with some Sriracha sauce to contrast the sweetness.. maybe a few avocado slices on top...damn.. the Bomb !! 🤤

  • @ronnieb5270
    @ronnieb5270 3 роки тому +5

    The small block Chevy has more development time invested into the aftermarket stuff and is very underestimated when compared to the LS . The LS actually is designed a lot after the Ford heads. Lol

    • @dennisrobinson8008
      @dennisrobinson8008 3 роки тому +1

      Your understating the LS architecture when your comparing it to Ford.

    • @JOMaMa..
      @JOMaMa.. 2 роки тому

      Agree..

  • @georgiastreettruck4495
    @georgiastreettruck4495 3 роки тому

    How much unshrouding the valve helps? Bigger bore and unshrouding? Is there a point of diminishing returns?

  • @Moody_G8
    @Moody_G8 Рік тому

    How much can I take off a set of 5364 l76 heads before running into intake alignment issues

  • @55chevytruck
    @55chevytruck 3 роки тому +1

    I have a black and decker 6505 and it works great old is not always bad.

  • @flamingtitan4696
    @flamingtitan4696 3 роки тому

    Just wondering could you ask to leave the sweet sauces off your food there..... thats what I do.... just asking....

  • @rp75heavy
    @rp75heavy 3 роки тому

    Is it okay too save some $$$ on just porting exhaust port of the head..?

  • @stevenhobbs709
    @stevenhobbs709 2 роки тому

    Having traveled in the US I’ve got to agree on the food comments, drove me crazy some places

  • @whitejodeci8926
    @whitejodeci8926 2 роки тому

    My builder is opting to do a 5 angle single cut on my heads rather than porting for my NA build on my viper. Is there any benefit to that?

  • @jodysmith3662
    @jodysmith3662 3 роки тому +1

    Great Rant! Always great info. I try to watch all your videos. Very smart guy.

  • @camerone.2640
    @camerone.2640 3 роки тому +1

    Have you ported any ls7 heads? If so, what flow #’s do you get

  • @MB-ib5ji
    @MB-ib5ji 3 роки тому +1

    Is there any possibility on that valve you had to remove .003 to make flat wasn't just bent .0015?

    • @Peter-V_00
      @Peter-V_00 2 роки тому

      Depending on the source many times "new" valves need truing up, just because it's new doesn't guarantee minimal tolerances.

  • @evanm3209
    @evanm3209 3 роки тому

    I love that valve grinder. It's the machine we had back in high school shop class. That takes me back!

  • @brianoehlert4668
    @brianoehlert4668 3 роки тому

    What’s your opinion on low or midrange torque on the cathedral port stock head vs stock ls3 head?

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  3 роки тому

      The cathedral heads should make more low end torque. Not peak power.

  • @scarolinafan7
    @scarolinafan7 3 роки тому

    Do you have any experience with all pro heads? I've seen them on sprint car engines at a world of outlaws show.

  • @hotrod6919
    @hotrod6919 3 роки тому

    So what causes ls7 valves to drop?

  • @blazer8049
    @blazer8049 7 місяців тому

    Know what's bitchin you saved the best for last. Double thumbs up!

  • @bfromthed
    @bfromthed 3 роки тому

    What's your margin for fluctuation? Like 0.5-1%?

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  3 роки тому

      According to the readings from the software it is .33%

  • @jasonwells2988
    @jasonwells2988 3 роки тому +1

    Super knowledgeable guy. Cracks me up with the Ls stuff. Sweet steak wtf.

  • @magnusdanielsson2749
    @magnusdanielsson2749 3 роки тому +3

    Very interesting as always.
    Maybe you could do/say something about the pad at/around the spark plug hole. Most head has one. Some are big, others are small, some heads have none. What is the purpose of it? Have you tried grinding it out or shape it in any way, have any luck at shaping it?
    Im totally with you on the sweet meat thing! Its awful. In Sweden its called ”American BBQ” and is just horrible 😅

  • @TheJohndeere466
    @TheJohndeere466 2 роки тому

    I have a sioux valve refacer I bought for 50.00 at an auction but it has the chuck with 3 balls and the runout is around .005 usually so i dont use it.

  • @evcass69
    @evcass69 3 роки тому

    I'm still hoping to see discussions of curtain area, coefficient of discharge and port velocity, compared between different port volumes and valve sizes, stock vs aftermarket, etc.

  • @brianholcomb6499
    @brianholcomb6499 3 роки тому +3

    A Sioux valve grinder is honestly the best one ever made! I’ve been to many shops that have a fairly new grinder & a old Sioux next to it! 99.9% of the time the new one never works! It’s just there for show, because every moron that thinks he knows, actually doesn’t! We still use our Sioux! I actually think it’s from the early 50s! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 L/S fanboys 😂😂😂😂 I actually like you much better now that I know you don’t love SWEET MEAT! That’s a woman’s thing! 😜😜😜😜😜

  • @romansteiger4272
    @romansteiger4272 3 роки тому

    Hi Eric, thank you for testing al this things and sharing the informations with us. You always measure Flow with lift up 1“. In real world at what lift ore Spring pressure do you recommend to go away from the Hollow Stem Valves?
    Thank you for the great job

  • @packhousetv
    @packhousetv 3 роки тому +3

    Would love to see more ford heads tested and compared to the LS heads.

  • @scottsigmon926
    @scottsigmon926 3 роки тому

    Great video sir

  • @xxdabroxx
    @xxdabroxx 3 роки тому

    I agree completely! Keep your sweet out of my savory (DINNER) dish.

  • @dondotterer24
    @dondotterer24 3 роки тому

    I agree with you 100% on the food. That would piss me off also

  • @jimkillen1065
    @jimkillen1065 3 роки тому

    lol I enjoyed the video thanks for the information . I wondered about the comparison between the heads and the ls and small block .

  • @ВасилийУткин-л4н
    @ВасилийУткин-л4н 3 роки тому

    Thanks for video!

  • @seniamcclurg3388
    @seniamcclurg3388 3 роки тому

    Great flow numbers on your heads and your Dragon Slayers, LOVED the rant on the food joints... .... I have to deal with the same thing, I'm Chuck from Clarksville, Tn.

  • @robertscherer4160
    @robertscherer4160 3 роки тому

    I may be a chrysler guy, but Thank you for all of the information man!

  • @brentonk461
    @brentonk461 3 роки тому

    If you have seen a change in flow with that minimal amount milled off, it's your flow bench moving around the averages mate. Something can't be right. It's probably the way your testing it.

  • @itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
    @itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 3 роки тому +4

    So you're saying you like sweet on meat? LOL 😆

  • @bdugle1
    @bdugle1 3 роки тому

    Interesting results from the milling. I wouldn’t have guessed there’d be any difference at 0.018”. Someone a few minutes ago asked about variation, I’d ask the same about repeatability from one test to the next. If you take the head off the flow bench, then turn around and test again, how close is it? Overall I’m thinking these heads will be just about perfect for a street engine with a cam designed for a stock converter. Thanks for covering everything on the head work/valve job!

  • @JUNKYARDGTO
    @JUNKYARDGTO 3 роки тому +2

    I payed 600 to have my ls heads ported and new valves

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  3 роки тому +1

      That is way too cheap. Stock cheap valves run $180. Then you still have to valve job them at least an hour labor. A good port job takes about 30-40 hours if by hand. If cnc machine maybe 4hours. Someone is giving away their work or just going for volume.

    • @JUNKYARDGTO
      @JUNKYARDGTO 3 роки тому

      @@WeingartnerRacing I payed for the valves / springs and he owns his own shop please subscribe thx for the comment

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree 3 роки тому

    I agree. IMO meat should be savory, not sweet. But most Americans are addicted to sugar, and restaurants want to make money.

  • @vwdarrin
    @vwdarrin 3 роки тому

    i have one in my garage lol ,

  • @22rockcrawler
    @22rockcrawler 3 роки тому

    I also have the same curse.

  • @jesseduke694
    @jesseduke694 2 роки тому

    I have a old sioux valve grinder like that. Mine is a model??? 657? If I remember right? It's not in working order. But all of it is there. I want to improve it with a chuck like what you have there & then just try to figure out how it all goes back together. I've used them before & I love them. Never used a quickway but some reading I have dun the personal opinion of the author of the article was the quick way was alil more precise with making it concentric?? Don't know? For what I do, im sure this old sioux will be just fine. I'm in Iowa & these things can be found alot at farm auctions. I bought mine just from a local mechanic shop in town. No body uses them anymore like in the old days. Farmers don't work on there tractors like they used too. Mechanics shops seem to replace engines or heads now instead of rebuilding. Even high schools used to teach this in shop classes. Not anymore. So schools were selling them as well.

  • @scottwilliams5196
    @scottwilliams5196 3 роки тому

    Just a generic question from an old guy. It used to be that sinking the valves any amount was considered a hp killer. Is this still the view and how much are the valves going in on modern valve jobs? Thanks dude, enjoying your channel.😊

  • @utahcountypicazospage5412
    @utahcountypicazospage5412 3 роки тому

    Everybody knows the LS three is better than the 243 on the advantage to the 243 is you can use a smaller bore LS three needs at least a 6.0 or bigger bore

  • @daveb1870
    @daveb1870 3 роки тому

    Put ya some glad press n seal on that faced surface, keeps it pristine and easy to remove. Rubbing alcohol will remove any residual residue. Keeps most scratches and/or blemished. That Souix valve grinder is one of the best and you basically stole it - great find!

  • @TheTheomax
    @TheTheomax 3 роки тому

    Rant on.. I don't care for sweet stuff on meat either. I really enjoy the tech videos like this one.

  • @wayneireland4802
    @wayneireland4802 3 роки тому

    Cool vid Eric.i don't eat meat but what your saying sounds like a diabetic diet.peace

  • @laytonturpin6957
    @laytonturpin6957 3 роки тому +1

    Ahhh… when can I send my heads to you? Seriously…

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  3 роки тому

      Anytime

    • @laytonturpin6957
      @laytonturpin6957 3 роки тому

      @@WeingartnerRacing I’ll be sending you a set of Brodix T1 KC227, 897 CNC. I’ll be in no hurry. This is for my spare engine. I’ll holler when I’m ready.

  • @mikeeagle2653
    @mikeeagle2653 3 роки тому +1

    Dude you’re comparing an after market ported head to a stock head. Lmao 😂

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  3 роки тому +1

      Ooooofff. I guess you didn’t listen to the whole thing.

    • @mikeeagle2653
      @mikeeagle2653 3 роки тому

      @@WeingartnerRacing I listened to the whole thing. And listen and get why you defend small block Chevy. Because that’s a big part of your business selling and porting sbc heads. All the die hards just can’t ever get pass the fact that things get better with technology.
      Show where you can get a stock sbc and make 1300-1500 hp and live. The sbc just can’t do that.

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  3 роки тому +2

      There is more technological advances in the sbc than the ls so far. There is more than 50years in it. If you mean what stock short block sbc to make 1200-1500 you got me there because the sbc guy will not do that because they are smart enough to know that they if they will make that much power they might as well build it right and not use a junkyard engine. If you are talking aftermarket tell me a ls that beat Ron Rhodes sbc. Most of my business is actually sbf.

    • @mikeeagle2653
      @mikeeagle2653 3 роки тому +1

      @@WeingartnerRacing the LS is the technology advancement of the sbc. Lmao 😂😂😂. That’s why gm no longer makes the sbc.

    • @WeingartnerRacing
      @WeingartnerRacing  3 роки тому

      @@mikeeagle2653 sure.

  • @jasonmenard1073
    @jasonmenard1073 3 роки тому

    I got the same curse all i think and do is build engines and rusty Gm cars and occasional Chrysler products

  • @davidparker9676
    @davidparker9676 3 роки тому +2

    Stop the sweet meat INSANITY!!!

  • @laytonturpin6957
    @laytonturpin6957 3 роки тому

    Good Lord! Somebody that thinks the same way I do!!! NO SWEETS ON THE MEATS!! For God’s sake! Jeeeezzzzz!!!

  • @deanbryan3034
    @deanbryan3034 3 роки тому +1

    Ls fan boys need saving from themselves lol

  • @williammchale5356
    @williammchale5356 2 роки тому

    I don't like a.lot of sweet stuff on meat either 😕

  • @richardmiller9814
    @richardmiller9814 3 роки тому

    I am a dealer for amsoil if you are interested in purchasing products or being able to sale products let me know

  • @rp75heavy
    @rp75heavy 3 роки тому

    Tell them diebeditc diet,no suger

  • @daleanderson7629
    @daleanderson7629 3 роки тому

    so no to pineapple on pizza?

  • @pablojanski.2559
    @pablojanski.2559 3 роки тому

    Why TF would you put sweet on anything seafood.. That's just stupid.. sweet is for deserts.

  • @neal6418
    @neal6418 2 роки тому

    The whole country is suffering from "sweet" wokeness 😖