The Biggest Circular Saw Review: The Makita VS Skilsaw Beam Saws
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- When needing to cut large timber, a beam saw is the best way to go. In Todays Tool Review Tuesday, I talk about difference between the two major players in the game, the OG Makita Beam saw, and the new Skilsaw Super Sasquatch. Just the name of the Skil is awesome!
The Makita Beam saw has been around for a long time, and has been the industry standard go to when needing to cut large timber. Now that Skilsaw has come to the market with the Super Sasquatch, will Makita need to step up their game? Let me know what you think in the comments below.
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I dont do this kind of work but I really enjoy your videos! The amount of effort you put into them and what you do is great!
👍👍👍👍thanks, got to borrow the skilsaw this weekend to cut 14- 6x6's.
You and the loaner pretty much sealed my decision what to buy.
Finally! Even though I'm not in the market for either of those saws, I love the way you went about the review! Long term, real world use and an honest assessment of the performance and individual quirks that could be a deal breaker for some folks. I'd love to see more of this.
Mike Guerrieri stay tuned man.
@@RRBuildings awesome!
Great review, these reviews are very important to me. Nice to have your honest non biased thoughts.
Super good review! 👍🏼👍🏼 Thanks for explaining the differences. Very thorough.
Nice review, I had to cut back 6x10 rafters with a Makita saw, it felt real heavy pushing it up to make cuts
I have an old miter saw with a 16 5/16 blade. I use it all the time, will cut 6x6 on a 45°. Got it for $9 at an online auction.
been considering purchasing for cutting 3" live edge slabs - great info and help.
A timberframing company (or one of the organizations, I don't remember anymore) used to make an aftermarket base for the Makita. Big improvement, but MAN is the wormdrive an improvement, especially in hardwood.
Thanks. The left and right angle , 200 rpm , the holding of the shroud was a real help for me , oh and $100 savings. Very good presentation
Excellent real world review. Your doing an awesome job with the channel! Keep up the good work brother!
Also use the Skill, like the blade on left side for easy viewing cut. Great Video with solid tips‼️👍 Vinny 🇺🇸
Hey Kyle awesome review, last week I bought a old 1990 Makita Beam saw this thing is a beast. I don’t think I’m going to use this so often but I’m looking forward to try it. 😉😅 like always fantastic content 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻👍🏻👊🏻👌🏻
The Mexican Carpenter awesome brother
One thing I like is this guy doesn't brag himself up he just gets right into it.
I like these tuesday videos , whether they are unboxings or actual reviews. Keep it up
Jake S. Thank you
I never regret investing my time to watch your content ...strong work!
dnorwood226 thank you brother
Good review, well balanced and you presented nothing but the facts!
Thank you Ryan for releasing a great product as this shedbuilder.work Most of the plans I have imagined in my mind are put down on your woodworking plans. This is more like a genius job. I love it!
Digging the content... solid info backed by real-world experience. Great job, thanks for sharing!
Jeff Grant appreciate that Jeff
Great video and review thank you keep the videos coming 👍🏻
Love it brother . Would have been great to have this over the weekend . Was cutting some 7x7 bean with a regular skillsaw lol . Too many cuts . Love the channel brother
cool review! i have an 8 inch skill worm drive and it is about as heavy as i would attempt, it does make everything else feel like a feather. i use an 8 and 1/4 blade versus the stock 8 blade for a tiny bit more depth. although heavy at 18 plus pounds, it has roughly same footprint as smaller worm drives and comparable cost...
Ya know, This was a great review. I think my mind is made up. I used a Makita years ago to cut a giant slab for a mantel, no complaints,but back then it was the only one available. I saw the Skilsaw at my local tool repair shop that sells tools as well.I am a big Skil fan and am very happy with the 7 1/4 and the 10" This new Skilsaw will make cutting giant 6'' maple slabs much easier. Thanks for the review.
Now this is a great tool review. Much better than seeing a new tool that has no real review behind it.
I hear you about the guard. The guard on the makita has always been an issue for me and as you said I always have to hold the guard up when I go to make my cut.
First video of yours I’ve watched. Great production value, especially the visuals. Gotta did that echo in the audio though. :)
Both of these are beasts. Thanks for the side-by-side comparison.
Great review, very helpful content
Great review. I wore out a makita on timber frame work. I wish i had the skill instead. I want to buy one now just to try it out.
Good review! Definitey like the mag base on the skil saw. Get some more build videos up.
Erik Trent for sure.
Thanks for the clarification on the blade size being in and imperial and not metric.
Great review! Probably won't buy either but if I do I know which way I'd go!
Like this first-hand review format - hands-on experience is far better than promo blurb!
Hola. Gracias por el video comparativo. ¿podrías darnos tu opinión respecto al uso de algunas motosierras para este tipo de corte? De antemano gracias.
Excellent review... thanks
Excellent review. Really informative and objective. Well done.
Love the worm drives! Thanks for point out the blade being on the left side, perfect for us right handers.
I watch this at 1.5 speed and its still good to watch keep it up
Great review and completely agree with your observations having owned and used a Makita. Looking for a Skilsaw now ;)
Next time you're in Deutschland: Mafell. To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee: "That's not a beam saw. THIS is a beam saw."
I don’t need to travel any further than Chicago. 👍. “That’s not a tracksaw”. 👌
No thanks, at 5 times the price of the next brand, only Elon Musk can afford the Mafell...😁 so no thanks!!!
Great review Kyle. Thanks for giving all of us the benefit of your real world application experience.
Excellent review!
Great review man. Being a welder/fabricator for the past 43 years and counting, I don't have much need for a "beam" saw, but I am currently putting together a little post and beam building out of wood, and funny I could use one of these...LOL!
Your metal subscriber...
Razor!
Awesome video - thanks for posting!
Thanks. I'm interested in your thoughts on regular sized circular saws. If you get a chance, would you make one of those reviews, please?
Your videos are gonna get expensive for me. Great review.
2:05 I don't see us having any battery technology in the near future that's going to make one of these cordless. Milwaukee..."Hold my beer."
Panhead49EL gotta push them right
Milwaukee 12mha
The only company who could make this cordless is Dewalt wth 2 60v batteries
Not just DeWalt Lou Cifer. Don't be fooled by one number on the battery pack. Most of the companies newer li-ion batteries use the high density 20700 cells so are much of a muchness with slight differences in how they package/manage the energy available. Some are moving (as will they all eventually) to even more hard core 21700 cells. Bosch's new ProCores use these. So whilst they're still 18v, they can deliver a sustained 90-100amps (amps x volts = 1620w +). 2 of those paired could easily supply the 2800 watt needed for a beam saw. And, like Milwaukee and Metabo, Bosch have a 12 ah (amp-hour, not to be confused with amps) endurance pack coming out later this year. So in short, any of the big brands have battery packs available now or coming very soon that could run a beam saw. Not just DeWalt, clever as the FlexVolt is.
Panhead49EL 😂😂😂😎😎💪💪
I've been using the skil worm drive since the 80's. In my opinion, the strong worm gear and the left side blade beats all the games in town. I own a few others including a few strong Milwaukee standard sidewinder for rip and demo, Ass kicking saws but for go-to, it's the skil and a new Bosch worm drive which is holding up well. Also, while I'm over six up, I can only easily stretch a worm across a 4 by sheet in one push because of the blade/saw configuration. Great review man, working crew review.. For that, thank you and I trust your opinion! Cut On men!!!!
I’ve had a Makita for years, I’m left handed so the blade is on the side I want but I agree with the dust fan, on one side you get the blade dust and on the other the motor fan blows in your face. I keep meaning to put a deflector on it. There is no kickback and I don’t have any problems with the guard. I’ve repaired them a couple of times and is not too difficult. I rip with them but it is a little slow mostly because there aren’t any good ripping blades.
John O I have 3 NOW !!!
Left handed !!😞😤 u out an air hose in my hand n Respirator !!!!😞💀☠️
Also have the Makita and am left handed, but find it to be a strongly right handed tool- very awkward for left handers. The cross cuts in 6x material are amazing 'tho, and I got it for free so there's that. Polish and wax the blade!!
Nice video, your correct on everything. I have the skilsaw which I love. We are deck builders and it makes our work lives much easier. One thing, I feel the blade is not so good. I will replace with a Freud blade.
I use the Makita at work everyday to cut 6” metal insulated panels....works like a champ...holding the guard back is not awkward at all unless you are inexperienced....I ripped 67 feet in one shot of IMP never had the dust get in the way of my line
Hey ,what blade you use ,I gotta cut sandwich panels (imp)too
Good information
Thanks
Very nice vídeo! Best regards from Brazil!
Have had a Makita 10+ years. We use them for 5.25 PSL headers for mostly flush header flatroof modern homes. If i could trust the brand Skill to holding up durability wise i might have to try one. We use Makita everything tho so im biased, but it also means that they last. Ive had the same Impact as well ever since Makita came out with them and on the 3rd set of brushes.
I didn’t know about the Skillsaw! After seeing this video I like it more! Better features!
Thank you! I have no more questions which saw I am going to buy and that red blade
Thanks for sharing.
Just wondering... how do you stay current on the latest and greatest? I'm a Technical Architect for a living, which means that I run software development teams. Probably the hardest thing to do (aside from educate the client) is to stay current with the latest and greatest tech. Not just learning it, but learning it well enough so that I then know whether it's worth adopting for the next project... use it, or just keep on using the tried-and-true stuff already in the toolbox that has a track record and is a known commodity.
How do you do that for your gig? Conferences? Magazines? Websites? Blogs? Ever tried something new that didn't work out as expected?
On that note... in my world, knowing what not to do is almost more important than knowing what to do, so we spend a lot of time doing postmortems on failed projects... sharing with others the "we did this and woah did it screw us over and this is how" stories to help others in our field learn from our mistakes.
Ever had anything go really, really wrong on you? Real "well that's not at all how I expected that to go" moments?
Care to share them sometime?
Again, thanks for doing what you're doing... very interesting and engaging!
Only thing I wish it had is a swing table like its cousin the bigfoot brand that retrofits on a bosch or skill worm drive. But it definitely looks a little easier to handle and a much stouter base plate. Great review
Ryan Chaffee I ONLY go w/Mag 77 !!
Lighter !!
Seeing the “regular” saw next to them is impressive but it’s comical to see you hold it at the beginning. That really put the size into perspective.
As a contractor cutting often large beams, you should check out/ test the big capacity Mafell saws! Very expensive, but worth the money for traditional frame builders!
Nicely Done.
Honest mans review, keep it going !
I use a 16"beam saw for timberframimg, I also use a electric chainsaw alot.
Jon Smith I have a 16 inch beam saw. I built a log home, 8 inch whole log, 10 years ago. I still use the saw occasionally.
There's a Hitachi beam saw sitting in the shed here. It got used at a timber laminate factory and it got ridden hard and put away wet god knows how many times. It got written off after one of the boys dropped it and bent the base plate. I need to take to it with some panel hammers at some stage and it'll go another round. They also have 24 inch 3 phase beam saws as well, which have their own trolley and are a 2 man job to lift and use, especially when ripping 8x2 and 10x2 laminated beams
The thing I like about the Makita is, they last forever. Bad thing about the Makita, as you pointed out, dust port on wrong side plus, direct drive vs the worm drive. Worm drive IS the only way to go when it comes to any circular saw. I do have 2 skilsaw wormdrives, love them, base should be better but, nothing beats them. Thanks for the review, cheers :)
I haven't found Makitas to be as durable as others have found, and there's always something a bit "off" with their ergonomics. Makita products remind me of a Mitsubishi (Dodge Ram 50) truck I had-- fair to good longevity, crappy egronomics. For my daily driver 7-1/4 saw, I go with Porter-Cable, but I've had good luck with Skil with other power tools. I'd definitely go with the Skil if I needed a beam saw.
Why is worm drive so much better if the Makita last forever and has enough power ? Just never understand why Americans love work drive .
Thanks, good to know.
Great review. My go-to saw is a 35 year old wormdrive Skilsaw that I bought new. It's hefty since it's pre-magnesium base, but is like a handheld table saw in my opinion. I also have a Makita sidewinder that rarely gets used. The new guys start with that one. I would pick the large Skilsaw for two of the reasons you highlighted- cut line visibility and a way to safely retract the blade guard on the few occasions that are necessary.
Good review Kyle, As a follow up video what about care and maintenance of each saw. Are the motors brushless? Cost of brushes? How easy is it to replace the blades. Is the gearbox in the Skill saw sealed? do you need to change the oil if so how often? Once again thanks for all the videos over the years
No one offers a brushless circ saw yet. Modern carbon brushes last a long time and are easy to inspect and replace. Brushes can run as low as 8 bucks a pair or maybe double if you buy from a local repair shop. Wormdrive gearbox is sealed and oil is normally for life of a brushset or longer on the Skilsaws. Most important wear item is the expensive 16 inch carbide blade. The Skilsaw ships with a Freud Diablo blade or it used to as Skil was owned by Bosch group and so was (and still is) Freud. The teflon like blade coatings are important to keep binding and friction down as both these saws are underpowered due to 15A max motor draw. Clean that green wood pitch off the blade to stop binding and smoking cuts. Make sure your blades are sharp and not missing teeth. New blades more that 100 bucks but they can be sharpened professionally to redress the teeth. Buy a cordless chainsaw to save bucks if you don't need the glass smooth cutlines in your work. You can buy chansaw guiderails for cheap to help with miters etc.
Michael Patish We blow out our saws EVERY Day !!- Before puttin Them to bed !
We clean all the saws on Friday ! Before puttin then to bed for the weekend !- blades are the same to change ! Just U have to have the saw sittin sideways w/a beam ! Can’t lay them in their sides ( Makita ) Cause U WILL bend the base plate !!!!- Makita n Skol have brushes !!- the rotor of their motors are 4 times bigger than a regular saw !-The Skol has to be greased ! Just like all worm drives !!
They are Beasts !! Holding the Makita at waist level ! N starting it !!- will torque Your wrist !- n scare Anyone !
Sittin them on a beam n starting !- no torque !- Very little kickback !-none - Really cause the blade is buried in the beam !- the motor will stall !- Can smell them burning up w/Tha New Guys !!- But The saws keep living on !!
Only times we have burned them up !!- Oak beams ! - Hardest Wood Brazilian Epi !!
TeXaS Summers !!
Go see the Houston Gorilla Exibit !!- Almost a year !! 🖖
Great comparison. Skil for the win!
Wasn't expecting the better one to be the cheaper option. It almost never is. But very good review and video!
Kevin what do you kno
Great review! Nothing like a honest review of a product you actually use. Would never buy it or need it, but who doesn't like a saw that large. They chose a great name to describe that beast. Give Makita credit though since they were one of the first. Because of that people who needed that large of a saw probably already bought the Makita. If I was using that type of saw I would definitely buy the skilsaw just for the improved safety enhancements.
Dude, you are the best. Love you man.
Not needing any if these saws but loved the video! Great review with good detail on both saws I say a job well done!
I have the Skillsaw and love it, I hate the case wish they made an improvement on it as you I also lost a clip latch now I use a rubber bugle cord
Just bought my Sawsquatch. The price has gone up considerably over the past two years but found one on sale for about the price you quoted in the video.
Thanks for sharing... !
Another great no nonsense video...😎
I feel like the skill is probably the longer lasting saw. I've never used either, but I feel like running the motor so slow on the Makita will put a lot more heat and strain on it, as opposed to the skill which gets a much faster motor, much faster spinning fan, etc.
Well my dad still has the same Makita that he bought while timber framing 30 years ago. We still use it on at least a half dozen jobs a year (carpentry and timber framing)
I don’t NEED one but I WANT one!
Christoper Moncada exactly
Nailed it
Yeah same haha I'm builder in New Zealand
Same
Who doesn't
That worm drive skilsaw looks so delicious! I bought a 12" beamsaw right after watching this video. Neither of these models are available in India, so I had to buy the only 12" model on offer.
The skilsaw clearly wins this in my opinion. I've done jobs with poorly designed/abused/broken tools at times. Use what you have at hand to earn today, until you can afford to pay for a tool that will pay for itself many times over. 👍
Is it fun using ill-suited tools to finish real jobs on a deadline? Hell, NO!! It is painfully frustrating knowing you could have done this or that so much faster. But does it teach you things you wouldn't have learnt otherwise? YES
Thanks for the comparison! 👍👍
Cool saws!
For your standard circular saw, having the blade on the right isn’t too bad as far as visibility. When your blade is 16 inches, I think a blade left is much better.
Great great review! I have a Makita I picked up on Ebay several years ago. It didn't come with the case/base to carry it on so yes it gets tossed around my trailer and truck bed. I'm always amazed at the accuracy and the ability to shave off marginal cuts trim a 6x6 for length though.
I find myself fighting the guard just like you mentioned. This is the only saw I use that's not a worm drive or blade on left...I'll be getting a Skil, kudos for an awesome review and bringing it to my attention!
will mast dude if you enjoy the makita you will absolutely love the skip
john doe Makita can’t hold its own weight if laid over !!!!
We have built 16” stools !!- Bungie cord them at lunch ! The plastic case is invaluable !!
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Skilsaw work drives and sidewinders also have a "clutch" type arbor that in a kickback situation, it will allow the blade to slip on the arbor to mitigate the kickback.
I've never had the blade slip while cutting even at full depth but in a binding situation it will allow slip as long as you follow the directions on how much you torque the arbor bolt. If you tighten too much you lose the clutch slip ability.
Good tip!
Great presentation. Made my decision easier. Thanks.
Bought a super sawsquatch today. It's a beast, for sure. So far, so good.
Sonic Prayer heck yeah man it’s awesome
Thank you for doing a great review and comparison after you've actually used the tools for a while!! Verses the common "it's still new and shiny" reviews that are so common. Keep up the great work!! Love what you're doing!
Versus*
The TFG used to sell a bigger/better base for the makitas - but without that better base I’d go for the skill saw. I use my 10.25” milwaukeee more and sometimes just finish the middle with a hand saw when I don’t feel like lugging the bigger saw to a remote location.
I used makita 16” blade for 25 years and I’m still use works perfectly no issues. They make make 100.000 s $$$ dollars
Great vids. Bro
Good video, :) am getting the skill one, seems like the better saw!
At the thickness of stock being cut-would it be easier to use a chain saw?
Could a saw like one of these be used to rip green oak/pine/yellow-poplar? Do they make specialized rip blades for them?
Just having the dust control in a better place sold me.
I own the makita beam saw....I know what you mean about the saw dust ...also the dust chute can clog easily if the wood is a little green. And yes the guard is a pain. Definitely going to look at the skil saw!
Does the skil have that little button on the side that you need to press on the makita before you can pull the trigger?
Spray some silicone through the Sawdust chute
Increases speeds + reduces drag & clogs
I drilled & tapped my guard
I can 'tighten' the bolt to hold the guard back easily
Illegal though
I would love to rool up on site and start cutting 2x4's with that beast haha.
Rob Aguiar 2x4’s wast of saw !!!!!!!
4c4 minimum with my 3 !!
The starting torque is what will scare U !!!!!’
If it’s sittin on the board U are cutting !- start it n push it through !
Very little kickback !! Cause the WHOLE blade is embedded in the WOOD !! The blade will bind up n STOP !!- Let of the trigger !- Straighten up n keep a goin !!- Done it from ALL over !🇨🇱🖖🖖👍🏼
Nice review, you should try if you'll have a chance mafell mks130ec.2500W, and 130milimetres of cutting depth. Amazing timber saw
As a tool guy I would love to have one. I don’t know what I would use it for. But it is better to have it and not need it. Then to need it and not have it. 😂😂😂 If only I could get my wife to believe that.😂😂😂. Thanks for the video.
Donald Lacy gotta be a salesman
We have the Milwaukee on the job site for cutting insulated panels and it does the job but if put against frozen butter it would be useless