Slime v Blur was the best set I've seen in a while. Pros being invested in a couple of 0-2er's games led to some great, great moments. Shoutout to Mang0 for being a scrub at heart. Anytime they started to panic, Mang0 knew exactly the shitty hail Mary option that they'd go for 😂
For real such a great set because seeing two people who are better than average but also way below the actual competitors makes it so much easier to follow. Everyone being that invested was definitely funny though
I love that Zain and Cody warmed up together before the FT10. Usually players want to hide what they got but these guys non stop are giving it their all. In my opinion, the 2 highest skilled melee players the game has ever seen.
@@hyperionf6357 I get what you mean about it being more intense, when the game starts there is more adaption you need to do / some tricks the opponent might have you don’t know about. But I think the mentality these two have is so admirable, they aren’t trying to rely on tricks or the other person not being warmed up, they are trying to outplay each other by having the highest peak skill and consistency. It’s so cool lol
Yeah, not playing together does give a slight surprise to the field, but having them warming up together lets them both know exactly what to expect from each other. In the mental game, it’s far more exciting seeing what they’ll do in their multi multi multi level mental micro situations.
Not really, if you understand how sponsorship works. If he has the ability to pull in serious money for the orgs, through merch sales or whatever, they would be all over him. But he doesn't.
@@arkain1 He's just looking to get into a bigger org. Cody could easily get on a mid tier org, but is clearly holding on to getting a decent contract with a larger org. I mean, Kodorin and Jmook are on Flyquest and I'm sure they're not selling any merch and raking in money lol
@@davedanger4414 very little money to be made in Melee overall, most top players income are not coming from sponsors and tournament winnings. Its coming from ad revenue, youtube content and twitch subs, all which you can do independently.
@@davedanger4414 I am sure after what went down at Golden Guardian, every other smashers realize what's coming and trying to shore up their content creation chops now. Unless your personality is interesting enough to build you a loyal fan base by the thousands who watches you stream regularly and thus help you pull in sponsorship deals that actually makes you and your org money (à la C9 Mang0 and Liquid Hungrybox), or you are signed by an org whose owners are basically doing charity for the scene they love (à la Moist eSports and Mogul Moves), job security is an illusion if you can't make any money for the people who invested in you.
What a beautiful set of Melee, and it couldn't have come at a better time considering the state of e-Sports. Much respect to Zain and Cody for bringing it this year, and lots of thanks to Ludwig for being generous to burn a huge pile of cnotes on the altar that is Smash.
Cody will forever go down as possibly the best fox player of all time. Cody honestly is one of my biggest influences and the reason I still want to play melee competitively. Because if the best player in the world isnt signed to an org, anyone can be the #1 player of melee.
SPOILERS: Man i'm so happy for Cody officially taking the number 1 spot. Literally shaking rn that all the pain and hard work this year paid off for him. Guy embodies everything as a player that i love about the game right now. Enters events concistently, loves being pushed further and is just so damn passionate about playing. Still can't believe that the rookie kid who i have learned about from a Smash Summit Space Jam Skit is now the best player in the world 3 years later. Let's hope for a great 2024 for the game with all the big names like mang0, Hbox, Wizzy and Plup returning in full force. I love y'all and please keep Melee alive!
Zain had the better year but props to him for accepting this when Cody is in better form and recency bias is going on just to provide hype content for the community. He could've just sat out and gotten his #1 but he still did it.
@@123IOWNALL321 That's not what they're talking about. They're talking about how after the match, Mango said that Cody is now #1, and he's now one of 6 players who have been #1. They said Ken, Mango, Hungrybox, Armada, and Zain. They completely forgot Mew2King who was ranked #1 in 2007 and 2008 (though 2008 should've been Mango's). This means Cody is actually one of 7 players who has been ranked #1. When this was happening, some people in chat said that this was Mew2King erasure
Great stream and event, very fun watch. Im still confused why Ludwig didnt play his main Puff. Even if shes different on Ultimate he still is a floaty player
2 of my favorite players going at it. Shoutout to cody for winning 10 to 7. I knew he would be number one before the year ended he is to hungry and is playing disgusting. Zain needs to wake up faster in his play style but now he should be hungry to get the number one spot back next year but we will see.
The Zain Cody set is pretty convincing proof of 20XX. When Fox is played optimally (if a little boringly), he has no losing matchups, period. Fox’s ability to survive and QUICKLY kill makes him unbeatable at the highest levels of play. Honestly the slow realisation that one character completely dominates the entire melee cast is a bit sad; takes some of the variety out of the game imo.
Although I do think Fox is the best character in the game, this is the first time a solo Fox is number one. Marth has been number one for the last couple of years and with Ken as well, and prior puff was number one for a couple of years. So I think it’s a bit premature to be deciding something like that when Fox has barely just done it
I wouldn't say washed, but he definitely choked in the first half. Took him a while to get going and when he did Cody took a timeout and cleaned up But yeah he did play sloppy for the most part I was disappointed it didn't go to a 9-9 but he still held his own
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Just wanna say i appreciate that y'all did positional audio for commentary based on what seat they're in
I only noticed after reading this comment. That being said it definitely helps knowing who is speaking.
@@alaskaperson1994 even though my desk speakers are 3 inches apart, it matters
Blur vs Slime was the fucking main event what a horrible but amazing set. Loved it.
Slime v Blur was the best set I've seen in a while. Pros being invested in a couple of 0-2er's games led to some great, great moments.
Shoutout to Mang0 for being a scrub at heart. Anytime they started to panic, Mang0 knew exactly the shitty hail Mary option that they'd go for 😂
For real such a great set because seeing two people who are better than average but also way below the actual competitors makes it so much easier to follow. Everyone being that invested was definitely funny though
One of the best sets of all time
Cody v Zain starts at 3:27:13
preciate it o7
Banger fight for #1, the situation definitely called for this sort of tie breaker event. Also I enjoyed the commentary!
I love that Zain and Cody warmed up together before the FT10. Usually players want to hide what they got but these guys non stop are giving it their all. In my opinion, the 2 highest skilled melee players the game has ever seen.
Like Goku v Vegeta
I guess I am an outlier on this one. I think its more intense not warming up together etc etc.
@@hyperionf6357 I get what you mean about it being more intense, when the game starts there is more adaption you need to do / some tricks the opponent might have you don’t know about. But I think the mentality these two have is so admirable, they aren’t trying to rely on tricks or the other person not being warmed up, they are trying to outplay each other by having the highest peak skill and consistency. It’s so cool lol
Yeah, not playing together does give a slight surprise to the field, but having them warming up together lets them both know exactly what to expect from each other. In the mental game, it’s far more exciting seeing what they’ll do in their multi multi multi level mental micro situations.
love that
@@ZBatt1
2:31:06 Noah's jab reset is crazy, I heard the story of him playing Lud on the Yard but didn't realize he could cook like this
Thats just a pichu bread and butter. The spike was nasty tho
Do you remember what episode of the pod it was?
super sick event, will be cool if it comes back around once and a while like lud's regular tournament
Slime went kinda crazy in match 1 tho ngl 😳🔥
4:15:00 mango not counting m2k is the most mango thing
@@billwoods7578 well no.1 is number 1
m2k definitly nerfed himself with being also no.1 in brawl and later playing smash 4
44:40 starts
goat
Insane that Cody is still a free agent, absolutely insane
Not really, if you understand how sponsorship works.
If he has the ability to pull in serious money for the orgs, through merch sales or whatever, they would be all over him. But he doesn't.
There is no money to make sponsoring people.
@@arkain1 He's just looking to get into a bigger org. Cody could easily get on a mid tier org, but is clearly holding on to getting a decent contract with a larger org. I mean, Kodorin and Jmook are on Flyquest and I'm sure they're not selling any merch and raking in money lol
@@davedanger4414 very little money to be made in Melee overall, most top players income are not coming from sponsors and tournament winnings. Its coming from ad revenue, youtube content and twitch subs, all which you can do independently.
@@davedanger4414 I am sure after what went down at Golden Guardian, every other smashers realize what's coming and trying to shore up their content creation chops now.
Unless your personality is interesting enough to build you a loyal fan base by the thousands who watches you stream regularly and thus help you pull in sponsorship deals that actually makes you and your org money (à la C9 Mang0 and Liquid Hungrybox), or you are signed by an org whose owners are basically doing charity for the scene they love (à la Moist eSports and Mogul Moves), job security is an illusion if you can't make any money for the people who invested in you.
2:37:10 I mean...he won EVO for this game too
Thank you lud and crew!
“Only 6 people ever were #1”Mango
“Am I a joke to you all?”Mew2king
No words…great match, amazing turnout, congratulations to the victor! 👏👏👏
This is awesome! I hope to see more like this in the future!
They definitely gonna be talking about slime's victory on The Yard next week
(And Lud’s defeat lmao)
What a beautiful set of Melee, and it couldn't have come at a better time considering the state of e-Sports. Much respect to Zain and Cody for bringing it this year, and lots of thanks to Ludwig for being generous to burn a huge pile of cnotes on the altar that is Smash.
As a huge NoahJ fan I'm so glad to see him smoke a ludpak ❤😂
Melee has never had a more exciting game than Slime and Blur
I don't understand Mango saying there was no respect for the best player of all time; in what way did the commentators disrespect Armada?
Noah literally violated lud 😂😂
I've never been into fighting games but this stream was really entertaining for me, thanks and good job Lud.
Cody will forever go down as possibly the best fox player of all time. Cody honestly is one of my biggest influences and the reason I still want to play melee competitively. Because if the best player in the world isnt signed to an org, anyone can be the #1 player of melee.
leffen mogs cody
Best Melee ever. Glad to have witnessed
Slime's crazy recovery on the right side of battlefield last game... He hit the hax pixel right? Insane 1:31:05
ft10s are dope, would love to see more in the future! good shit and congrats to cody
Buy the merch, it would increase the chance of it happening it again.
SPOILERS:
Man i'm so happy for Cody officially taking the number 1 spot.
Literally shaking rn that all the pain and hard work this year paid off for him.
Guy embodies everything as a player that i love about the game right now.
Enters events concistently, loves being pushed further and is just so damn passionate about playing.
Still can't believe that the rookie kid who i have learned about from a Smash Summit Space Jam Skit is now the best player in the world 3 years later.
Let's hope for a great 2024 for the game with all the big names like mang0, Hbox, Wizzy and Plup returning in full force.
I love y'all and please keep Melee alive!
Holy fuck I remember that skit. Practicing all those shine back airs really did pay off in the end, huh? Here's to another great year of Melee!
3:27:17 Cody vs. Zain starts
Great stream! 🎉
I'm so glad he streamed today! 😊
Zain had the better year but props to him for accepting this when Cody is in better form and recency bias is going on just to provide hype content for the community. He could've just sat out and gotten his #1 but he still did it.
Learning that Noah is good at Smash makes me happy. I love that dude.
Mang0 missed Mew2King, who was best in 2007.
M2K wasn't a solo fox main in 2007.
@@123IOWNALL321 That's not what they're talking about. They're talking about how after the match, Mango said that Cody is now #1, and he's now one of 6 players who have been #1. They said Ken, Mango, Hungrybox, Armada, and Zain. They completely forgot Mew2King who was ranked #1 in 2007 and 2008 (though 2008 should've been Mango's). This means Cody is actually one of 7 players who has been ranked #1. When this was happening, some people in chat said that this was Mew2King erasure
Wasn't PP also #1 for a summer
@@LunarySSF2 overall #1
@@Michael-hc2hp Woops, thought the comment was talking about commentary regarding best ranked solo fox main. My b.
Slime vs Blur set of the year
Ok Melee community, we all need to collectively agree to start referring to Leffen only as "Billy" from now on.
Great stream and event, very fun watch. Im still confused why Ludwig didnt play his main Puff. Even if shes different on Ultimate he still is a floaty player
Lucina is very floaty too
Noah… that was dirty!
lud got swagged on 😭😭
HELL YEAH SLIME GOOD JOB MAN
Legends.
That was some awesome Melee.
GGs!
4:11:18 what was leffen gonna say here
I appreciate the event it was amazing:)
more melee (and ultimate if i could impose) events please! sick undercards and final event
The simultaneous water drink was the most intense part of the set
2 of my favorite players going at it. Shoutout to cody for winning 10 to 7. I knew he would be number one before the year ended he is to hungry and is playing disgusting. Zain needs to wake up faster in his play style but now he should be hungry to get the number one spot back next year but we will see.
"Hey Zain, do you think you could play Melee a little....better?"
Is there a reason people stopped calling Zain by "Zahn" and went back to calling him "Zane"
1:23:09
1:23:43 I've never laughed harder at a serious set than this moment
commentary is other-worldly
SO HYPE FOR JOSHMAN!!
Possibly the best set of all time
excellent
@3:15:50
Reflex test.
Cody a square for taking that break smh
blur became an absolute chad holy
Nitpick for the commentator who said "Zain is unluckily playing bad": bad luck and bad play are polar opposites lol.
How tf is Zain missing the side B directly into you timings… Did he choke…?
Crazy revival in game 3. He good.
Gotta say, The Crimson Blur is looking pretty goddamn fit and trim
NoahJ456 has been in the wrong gaming platform this whole time lol
best game ever
team melee
Everybody chillin till Zain pulls out the Roy on game 19
Back in my day the best player was a Jigglypuff. Feelingoldman
Which one? It’s happened more than once
1:23:24 Mang0: "Holy shit they both suck" LOL
3:59:26 incredible stuff
I always kinda liked Cody but he just keeps getting more likeable
Brick pipi
Blur slime is top 5 sets all time for me
I wanna ask why he couldn't get etoile to coach him at least a little in ultimate
Blur vs Slime is the modern Chris Best vs Net1234
amazing event
So we’re hosting?
Cody has nerves of steel.
Leffen really wants zain to wij so he doeent have to eat his words.
why isn't stadium frozen?
Nintendo doesn't give licenses to people who play modded versions of the game that could be why
@@UserOfTheName but there's ucf right? is it bc they can hide ucf and not stadium? or are they playing vanilla?
@@momo_11o9 I think yeah they should be on ucf
@@UserOfTheName huh! I didn't think Nintendo was involved so I didn't think it mattered. thanks!
Good stream streamer
You dont get it. You have to post separate youtube videos. Otherwise people are not interested
slime made this event for me tbh
1:27:50 "that's a mang0"
I love cody and...
👏🏾this 👏🏾mu👏🏾is👏🏾even👏🏾
great event
The Zain Cody set is pretty convincing proof of 20XX. When Fox is played optimally (if a little boringly), he has no losing matchups, period. Fox’s ability to survive and QUICKLY kill makes him unbeatable at the highest levels of play. Honestly the slow realisation that one character completely dominates the entire melee cast is a bit sad; takes some of the variety out of the game imo.
Although I do think Fox is the best character in the game, this is the first time a solo Fox is number one. Marth has been number one for the last couple of years and with Ken as well, and prior puff was number one for a couple of years. So I think it’s a bit premature to be deciding something like that when Fox has barely just done it
WAKE UP DUBBIN
Who's here for noahj?
Nice
good games slime
Ludwin would have 5-0'd NoahJ.
What blur, being fit its almost wrong
So the goat is officially washed
I wouldn't say washed, but he definitely choked in the first half. Took him a while to get going and when he did Cody took a timeout and cleaned up
But yeah he did play sloppy for the most part I was disappointed it didn't go to a 9-9 but he still held his own
Happy Hannukkah To #1 In The World! 😊
Lets goooooo cody
Slime vs Blur was just as scripted as Genesis 3
4:20:45
....well then
LOL i was about to comment something about that
Marth
Damn, this is some of the sloppiest Zain in awhile. Very unfortunate time for that too =/.
W
I need to see hax leffen
Mid stream ngl (i wasn’t there)
Cum
Thats the smash effect
Booooo Cody
Zain is washed