WGA Writers RETURN To ASHES of Hollywood
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Hollywood WGA writers strike is now over, a deal is signed but are there jobs to in television to return to? HBO, Netflix, Amazon, Disney+ all cancelling shows or suspending deads. Late night television returns with large writers rooms, but the WGA deal only got half what they were asking for. Despite commenting on Disney CEO Bob Iger's wages, Hollywood simply doesn't have the money to give them. As television shows decrease, can hollywood writers stay in the entertainment industry with Netflix and Disney?
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WGA thought that their strike would improve their wages in Hollywood with no cost. But it seems they may have played directly into the hands of studios like HBO, Disney and Netflix. They signed bad deals, desperately needed to cut costs and the strike was the perfect excuse to do it without bad PR. So the WGA writers strike got a good deal, but at the cost of lower number of movies and TV shows, and a smaller number of jobs. The few writers who remain will be better off, but a lot of the writers who went on strike, may never return to Hollywood. But what are your thoughts on the WGA strike? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
I wonder if the studios and the union heads, reached a backdoor deal.
This sounds like an inside job, to get rid off the “chosen ones”
I wish they all would have been let go
If Hollywood is dead, then I guess this channel is dead. You'll have nothing to talk about.
I think the WGA lit the house on fire before they went on strike, and can't figure out where all these ashes came from. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
"We make shit no one likes or wants. We hate the paying customer and they're the reason our movies and shows suck! Give us way more money and guarantee our job security!" - WGA
LOL. I'm no writer but damn, if I could "work" for only 5 to 7 weeks out of the year I would be good. I could spend the rest of the time screwing around or doing nothing at all. Well, compared to these modern "writers" maybe I could be a writer.
@@SRMoore1178 The whole movie industry has become bad to work for. Everyone is on contract. Even the actor. There is no more work security and there are waaaaaay too many peeps who are attracted to the glamour and this make it a far too competitive industry to survive in, much less make a bit of money of. Sure you may earn enuf money for a year in 5-7 weeks and then spend the next 2 years with zero work. How are you gonna pay your rent and everything when you have such a random income. Have you thought about setting a lot of it aside to even last 2 years without work? and more and more people are joining this madhouse industry.
Lol ! 100% spot on ( they wish ). We should start our own Union, immediately not do anything and then go own strike against ourselves. I haven't thought of what it should be called yet...Any ideas ? If you do, we are all family. I want my fair share.
@@stephanecremont3666 You do what everyone else has to, you get a second job
@stephanecremont3666 income and work is NEVER guaranteed in entertainment. Nor should it be. Athletes have to figure it out once they're too old or injured to perform or compete but you don't hear a peep and they are not service line workers who would flip society on its head if they were all gone for a week.
I will use writer mindset and say it's offensive that they ever compared themselves to teachers, nurses, doctors, kitchen or cleaning teams in the first place.
Yay, the writers are back! Now we can get more lectures on screen.
Down with the patriarchy!!! Hey, where is everyone going???
Women use two more letters to name their sex so are clearly better then simple 3 letter men! Now bow down to the holiest of holes! ! !
Wait, you watch their trash?
@@LikexnerNope, but Disparu's commentary is more entertaining than the current product.
We'll probably get less lectures... simply because there are less writers.
I hope they will start to snatch up novel writers, like the author of Lord of the Mysteries
So basically a lot of people on 'strike' were either unemployed, or unpaid/lowpaid interns, helping cement only a fraction of writers into jobs that can't be usurped by the rabble below them.
Ah, sweet irony.
Well, if you look at how stupid, shallow and vapid the scripts have been that HAVE gotten made over the last few years, and figure they were produced by the SMART WGA members, it's no surprise the people less sharp than them were unable to figure this out.
It's a tale as old as time. The lowly roused to action for the benefit of the few on top. It is, after all, the root of power. Why do you think politics is a game of deciet?
It's the French Revolution all over again. XD
Unions exist to enrich and empower union leaders. Always been the case.
@@michaelkeegan9260 This one exists as an arm of the federal government. Namely, the Central Intelligence Agency.
Imagine a book writers unions:
Hey hey hey. Are you writing this book by yourself? That's a no-no.
At best you can make the extra two writers just do errands, fetch coffee, maybe even not show up. Let the one competent guy do the script while the other two merely collect the contract mandated pay check from the comfort of their group studio apartment.
Imagine accusing others of scabbing when what your'e striking for is the right to make money off better writers work. By demanding 3 writers in the room, the one who actually pitched a good idea is getting his pay slashed from whatever good deal he would have been offered down to minimum wagee, all so two leeches can play candy crush saga while taking a cut...
@@michaelkeegan9260 LOL, if my book gets a movie/serie adaptation that WONT happen.... im the writer.... im the producer.... im the final say..... otherwise they have to pay me ..... multiple (tens) millions to buy my entire story and the rights to it.... otherwise no other writer is going to touch my shit with a 10 foot pole..... fucking woke retards....
I always thought it was strange that streaming services were suddenly only doing 6 episode seasons.
Now I see why..
They wanted to see how this new business model would do for them.
The strike was, as many other youtubers have put it, was a purge to get rid of the bad deals and bad writers.
interesting.
Good riddance to bad product.
Bad deals? No, it’s to move money around.
Small hats like phoebe waller bridge deserve their millions not some idiot joke writing goy
Actually the six to eight was so the studio could be lazy and just repurpose a movie script without having to actually do the work of writing for TV. Then they skipped all the setup like cast calls, automatically giving roles to actors/actresses, and appointing producers to act as junior showrunners. It was pure insanity to think that would end well just because they spent as much on a mere streaming show as they would a major blockbuster.
because they are lazy and assumed you would just flip to the other 6 episode show on and on...but there aren't any worth watching
Shame it’s come to an end…both sides were bleeding, it was great!
Sad but true...
It helped me discover I don't need or in fact want the 'entertainment' industry. Made me start viewing them all collectively as useless eaters.
@@M-S_4321Yeah, definitely what an aidude twitter blue user would say
The irony is hilarious! By striking when they did, they foolishly gave the studios the perfect excuse to scrap all the horrible deals they made over the years without looking like complete assholes. It also didn’t help that the public had no fucks to give about the strike, meaning the studios had no pressure on them to try to work a deal out
Unlike the UPS strike, which people were more supportive of, and had more at stake because it would end up costing billions to the economy
That one guy who made less than 36k in 6 years needs to realize that writing is his hobby.
American TV show 175$ million, Korean show 30$ million for twice as many episodes and ten times more entertaining, a big gap that needs to be fixed
The only thing dumber than a Hollywood writer is a Hollywood writer's understanding of economics.
Let's be fair, based on their writing so far, I'd say the strike was more to demand to pay them, or they'll keep doing it. Personally I think it's a hostage situation either way.
😂😂 Well said!
That would imply there actually gonna step up there game after getting what they want
either you're real dumb or need to lay off the xanax. are you seriously expecting them to get the deal they wanted then start laying out gold? I truly envy your naive optimism
@@shadow3675 They'd lack the talent to think of using what they've been doing to hold Hollywood hostage, so I agree.
I don't get it... why can't they hire Writers from other countries? Why doesn't it have to be Americans? Everyone speaks English you know?????
There's load of writers in Japan.
This is a short-term win for the writers. The studios will move their productions to a non Hollywood location and avoid these terms.
Yo... GENIUS! :D
What do you mean? I'm not native.
Basically what a lot of budget film do. They film with an independent production company, usually outside the US to reduce costs, and only bring in the strict necessary from Hollywood if they have to. @@Arc_Soma2639
I'm not even seeing this as a win. The top 25% were already doing fine most likely, and they got better pay, everyone else just got shafted and lost their job entirely. In the future, there will be much less work for everyone. How is this a good thing for all the writers when the majority of them are worse off ? Only shitty writers mental gymnastic can entertain that idea.
There is a lot of movement in Georgia, it's become a pretty sizable location for Movies and such.
That the writers thought they deserved more money for their garbage writing is just as absurd as the crap movies/shows coming out of the “entertainment” industry. That they were rewarded for it is insane. The next step will be higher ticket/subscription prices to watch the same garbage.
It's what happens when you live in a world where everyone provides for you and you have all the safety nets and you still demand more socialism, bah, communism because fuck it, why not. As much as I'd love to see the 1%'s "holdings" actually forced onto the market (It'd be a beautiful market crash) if any of that might go to these idiots... yeah no, keep shrinking 1%, people are too stupid to own even 0.9 of that.
They already are. Streaming productions are way too expensive as it is and barely bring in viewership numbers comparable to traditional TV. They have to increase their prices just to reduce their losses. Profits are definitely not coming any time soon.
Writers wanting more money is nothing strange to me. Even if they produce garbage, they would likely want more money and that is it to be expected.
Same with employees, the moment they see your shop/stores are doing well, they want a raise, even though there workloads were never increased. They were hired to do a full day 8hrs jobs... but when business first start up, it would be slow and when it picked up & became busier, they want more raise.
So nothing news to me...
But I find mind boggling, are the people who supported the Strikes... I mean, don't they know if Writers get additional pay, it's going to come out of their pocket?
Investors are sure, will not cut their shares. And Company, having to face many risk & investment failure, they're too, will not take a small shares. So for them to pay workers higher fee, they must increase their sale prices. And who will be paying for that "Increasement"???? Of course, the strike supporters...
Will anybody besides sycophants actually do that ? Why would I pay increased prices for garbage content ?
If anything but sycophants was required the mobile gaming industry wouldn't exist :D @@A.Froster
I still findit hilarious that the writers who are supposedly the ones writing scripts for shows couldn't even make their own cause appealing to the masses, despite the other side being "faceless corporations that everyone hates". If they can't even make your cause look good while everyone hates the villain in this scenario, what makes them think you deserve more money?
However did Ms. Rowling manage to write the Harry Potter books alone, shouldn't she have had a committee of Political Pundits sticking their tuppence worth into the plot?
Back then, no.
Now though? She shouldn't even look at paper because it harms other people...
@@kyuokuo Now we see how bad of a writer she truly is when she doesn't steal 99% of a story written by another guy, change the names of the peeps in it, add a few new things that doesn't change the story and tell the world how great she is. Yeah past the 4th book in harry potter, the story wasn't that great or original all of a sudden. But apparently in court, you can't be sued if you reproduce word for word the story of someone else because (and get this judge): you might have invented the story in your head at the same time and just happen to write it later than the other guy. Mmmmm but when you get to music who sound slightly the same as another one: bang copiryght violation galore!
Thats during her hungry years. Now thats shes a billionaire she went the way of Soros, Zuckerburg, Oprah, and started virtue signaling
if your talking about LOTR than i say it does have similarities but in all its very different in 90% of the time JK created a whole world that still continues to grow till this day
No though there’s enough in the movies
The Phoebe Waller Bridge $20 million/yr for 3 yr deal doesn't showcase a problem with writing, it showcases the failure of the studios to control the cost of production. They're handing out summer blockbuster levels of money to get concepts going without proof that it will work, like a pilot. It's like they forgot exactly how much an episode of TV costs to produce when they went to streaming and decided to throw money out there to fill air time instead. These studios are greenlighting shows that costs way too much. There's no way you're going to be able to stay within budget when you want to rush a TV production in 2 months. With how heavy post production effects are now, you're 100% going to get subpar garbage when it comes to the vfx. The entire system designed to minimize costs have now created a situation in which shows are destined to be subpar failures and Hollywood 100% deserves it.
There will of course be the shows that still shine through because they're able to avoid the pit traps of the modern studios, but the failures will keep coming until they fix the system.
This is a very well written comment!
What production? She did jack!! 😂
@@thecloudtherapist Exactly. But, they have no problem throwing tens of millions at people like PWB or JJ Abrams for the off chance they'll throw a script their way.
Are we still waiting for the improvements in quality of product, treatment of workers and overall improvement of everything in Hollywood that would surely arise from appointing women (or should I say "humans-with-vag") to be in charge??
I'm not holding my breath because I think it's been well-demonstrated that they are just as capable of complete, embarrassing failure as the men (or, in the 2023 jargon "humans-with-penis").
It's almost like their primary objective is to move "investor" money to people who will then pass it on...
I legit prefer K-dramas over western shows because the focus is always story first. In the US, it’s politics/representation/ etc … then story.
Until it’s story first, this will continue to be an issue. And that doesn’t mean, you won’t have diverse representation or politics potentially in a series, it’s just not the main focus for EVERY SINGLE project.
Tbf I also like that there always a twist where the government is corrupt in some way in all the K dramas I've seen
all this happened in the 20s under the heys act,american media was given rules such as no scenes of gore,sympathy for the criminal and a bunch of other shit...people tuned out and watched foreign film,a while passed and hollywood started to slowly ignore the heys act and the golden era of cinema occured and folk came back to watch
same thing is happening now,folk are watching non american stuff,mario and sonic made over a billion,while disney cgi stuff flops,manga is selling well despite rampant piracy and marvel cant make money
now we are in the era of hollywood is beginning to realize this and may see a righting of the ship.
If "diverse representation" means blackwashing and otherwise raceswapping established white characters, im not interested. The problem is not just that wokeness (aka communism) is the main focus, its that its there at all. Communism is like cancer. You dont want even a little bit of cancer.
We have had legitimately racially diverse casts for DECADES and _mostly_ without raceswapping. The demands for "diverse representation" are just a eufemism for LESS WHITES. Its racist as phuck and i wont support it no matter how good the story is.
I don't know about this idea. I need to feel seen in any entertainment product that I consume. If I'm not represented, then I won't be able to relate to the characters. 🤪
I haven't tried any Korean dramas, but I'm having fun with K-variety shows not to mention K-pop!
Hear, hear.
There is a small saying that these writers need to know "Too many cooks in the kitchen". Studios wants to make a profit, you really think they are going to spend tons of money on a giant room of writer? So either these writers have to write some of the best shows and pump up those view counts or they'll be out of a job.
Indeed. One of the worst streaming shows last years, Witcher BO, had exactly the amount of writers they were just striking for- 6 for 6 episodes. And that show turned out to be such a mess that they had to cut it down to 4 episodes. And it was still a bad show, so it's interesting to contemplate how bad it was at 6 eps!
@@marychocolatefairythe studios make it sound like they’re caught flat footed with all this woke writing, but they ordered this activist trash. The writers are simply providing as requested. All of Hollywood is an open sewer.
This whole fiasco is like the Hindenburg. It's a flaming disaster, but you can't look away
There's a lot less humanity in this though. Hollywood "people" aren't people.
I can look away
Long before this strike, I was looking away more and more from the garbage propaganda they were trying to foist on us as "entertainment".
Can we stop calling them writers? Theyre activists with messages, not stories.
Thank you. We also need to acknowledge that the studios are involved with every ounce of the agenda, messaging, horribly tone dead marketing, weaponized directors, etc. The whole thing can go into the bin forever.
I think that's going too far. They might be bad writers, but all art is inherently political. A lot of the best stuff in American media is deeply political. Taxi Driver, Alien, Blade Runner, Rambo, Starship Troopers, Full Metal Jacket, the list goes on. Those just had good writers, but they still had a message being communicated by the writer and director.
They stood on that picket line because that was the only way they could get strike pay form the union...which is probably a pittance of what they normally get. They don't walk the picket a minimum number of hours, they don't get a check from the union. Full stop. (I should know. Former UTW and IBEW member.)
And I bet that strike pay doesn't count towards the "WGA earnings" required to remain a member. L. O. L.
i love how virtually nothing changed from the previous deal yet they have two entirely different outlooks to them. It just shows that the studios won, that the WGA couldn't get much more out of them and had no other choice but to agree to their demands or risk losing everything. The studios might not have been making much if any money but they at least weren't hemorrhaging money with each awful product that got shat out of their writers. Now with the actors strike whatever little budget is available is going to shrink even more due to everyone wanting more money but not understanding that there never was any extra money to squeeze out. The only way more money could be made is if less people were involved which ALWAYS means one thing, the little people who the strikes were supposed to be for were going to be the first ones to go. The already well-off people were the ones who will get the most, if not all, of the benefits of said strike. Congratulations WGA and SAG-AFTRA you made everything worst for everyone except for a few select elite. Truly we have saved the industry!
No doubt the union bosses will give themselves a raise after this too. They're the only ones who win no matter the outcome.
Wow. You really have no clue how writers, artists and small actors get treated by big studios do you? How disgusting
@@taki7546 Look in a mirror dude. They would get treated pretty much like every other big corporation treats their workers which isn't good at all. That changes what i said exactly how? That changes the fact that the unions literally screwed the actors, writers and literally everyone else how? Go feel disgusted elsewhere.
WGA: "We won!"
Hollywood: "What did it cost?"
WGA: "Everything."
What I hear is, that we're about to get a couple of years where groups of 3 writers are going to team up to write 6 episode series because nothing else will be green-lit.
It could actually be less, single or duo team writers are allowed as long as they write every episode and it is presumably much easier to find someone willing to do that if it is a shorter show.
If you've got enough extra cash to start a new Warhammer 40k army, while on strike, you're definitely overpaid.
So in short, they proved why unions have earned a bad rap as they just ran more than half of their members through a proverbial wood chipper. Fact of the matter is that they wouldn't be in this position if the union and studios kept actual standards for writing and ejected bad writers from the industry at large. Then again, who would Lucas Films and other Disney studios employ? Not like they have the talent to hire actual good writers right?
Objective quality standards would interfere with the "contract-as-favor" aspect of the studio system. And favors get repaid, don't they? It allow well-connected agents, studio execs, and "actors-of-the-moment" to throw their weight around. Hiring on merit removes that. I mean, were the Chicago ward heelers and aldermen ever in favor of doing away with the patronage system in Chicago? So OF COURSE they were never going to go with merit. It's not the progressive way.
So are Unions bad? Like wow use fuckin social media to keep companies accountable good fuckin idea bro.
@@nathangaytano1431 unions aren't bad but they're also not good ether. They've proven to be open to manipulation and have a tendency to serve those more ranked at the top than anything. Case in point, many missed that they had an income barrier to vote on these terms apparently. Income that was impacted by picketing for the better part of this year and disqualified quite a number of their members from even having a voice in this from what I'm understanding. People who are more than likely going to be kicked to the proverbial curb by these decisions despite being used by the union as good little foot soldiers.
@@Cortanis001 The requirement to vote (even if you're a member) is based on making $37K over the last 6 years on WGA contracted work. And really, if you didn't make that much, you're more a hobbyist or wannabe than a "screenwriter". Their interests should still be taken into account by the union that takes dues from them.
I just think the union mindset is hard to grasp in US, while it is working everywhere else. The american way is to lift the individual, but unions are about lifting the group or the ones with worst terms. You cant Get what you want every time, that is why you negotiate every year and continiue union pressure. Small wins over time and some big wins some times.
The victory turned out be a bloodbath. Math sure is ruthless.
Bloodbaths often proceed victories. Oh, you mean a victory for the fans or the writers?
@@M-S_4321 It was supposed to be the writers' victory.
You can make your living writing fiction, but you don't get to make your living based on a fictional reality.
Heheh good one
Exactly 😂
I love Disparu's perspective on all this, since I live here I get Steve-level gaslighting all the time, pleasant to get other perspectives from people who actually care
Manufacturing unions have been selling out their membership for 40 years in the US.
75% less writers? That’s hilarious.
“Fewer.”
Stannis Baratheon
@@creatrixZBD Bannis Staratheon
The "writers" who don't qualify for the writer-producer title need to practice the following mantra: "Do you want fries with your order?"
Lol yup! And now fast wood workers min wage is now 20 an hour thanks to Newsome. Same pay as my job as 1st year CPA in 2020 lol.
Shame. Was so quiet not hearing from them
This is clearly unfair! Go back on strike again writers!
Don’t worry, we peasants will manage somehow.
No, no, no...
The writers are also peasants. The ones who need the strike again are the writer-producers!
Young man, you are better than 95% of the writers out there.
He's nearly forty.
@@eddiebendigo7317- How do you know? I thought that he was 25 or so 😳...
@@saymyname2417He stated his age in his videos before,I think his 35
He's actually 65 but uses a good moisturizer
@@Avalon_1991 - Ha, so that's his secret 😹 ! Then he must be older than the oc 😁 !
When they made the Death Star models they had several modelers working on certain areas in rotating shifts. All so the finished work didn't look as if it was built by only one person. Those models are marvels to look at.
But thats models, a visual aspect of a story. Several writers on one project can't do that unless they're all following a preset narrative, "Make It All About WOMAN POWER!".
It's like having seven monkeys on type writers...
seven monkeys or seven AIs typing out a wack story would probably be more entertaining, at least they can't try to gaslight people that somehow men can be women@@sassytroy8282
I experienced my first ad on Netflix last night. My family is done with it. I would literally pick it to watch mostly because of no ads but price didn't go down and anything that's good on there I've already watched.
Speaking of practicing writing as a craft, the prolific British humourist PG Wodehouse wrote every day. His most famous creation is "Jeeves and Wooster." In total, PGW wrote 80 novels and hundreds of short stories beginning in the early 1900s till 1974 shortly before his death.
There was only one gap in time when he did not write for several months. Why not? Because he was locked up as an enemy civilian - as a resident of France when the Germans invaded. Every male under the age of 60 was detained and placed in camps. He was 59 years old.
After his release, PGW resumed writing every day.
Thank you for the video! 🙏
Love Wodehouse. Blandings was wonderful also.
I too am trying my hand at writing, but my method is different. I make a full synopsis in my head, write a decent beginning, and if I think I am going well, I pause and let the story simmer. I let the characters and plot relate to me instead of me relating the plot. When I am ready to write again, I would also add details and erase unnecessary parts.
I prefer a combination of themes, characters and story.
I love Jeeves And Wooster! Absolutely hilarious, unlike what's being churned out today.
@@fennglordd6365 I love Blandings so much, that it might slightly exceed my love of Jeeves and Wooster! I didn’t include it in my comment because Jeeves and Wooster is much more widely known to the general public.
I think it’s the rural setting that makes the difference. My favourite Jeeves book is “Joy in the Morning”, in which 90% of the action takes place in Lord Worplesdon and Aunt Agatha’s rural lair in Steeple Bumpleigh.
Blandings + Uncle Fred + Duke of Dunstable stories are GOLD!!
@@ThatAnnalisa yes, it is so unfortunate that comedy is considered as a lesser art form than drama. But clever comedy is incredibly difficult to set up before even adding dialogue. PGW wrote hundreds of pages of notes for each book.
“The intelligentsia notoriously like the most frightful bilge” is a quote from Bertie’s narration regarding the critical reception of Lady Florence Craye’s book “Spindrift.” 🤣
The writers strong armed the actors to "join" their strike. Once the writers get their contracts finalized, they sure as hell not going to "join" the actors.
No TV show needs 12 freakin' writers. The dialogue in shows and movies these days sound like they are produced like a baseball batting order... writer number 1 writes the first line, writer 2 does the second line, writer 3 adds her bit, then writer 4, etc. Who knows where the story will end up? So fun!
Writer 1: Writes "You have not seen what I have seen."
Writer 3: I liked the first line, I should repeat it.
For me personally the strike showed me what a great actor Bryan Cranston is. I would have never guessed what a moron he seems to be only knowing his scripted on-camera performances.
I used to like Ron Pearlman and Dwayne Johnson...
Now I pray everyone in Hollyweird shuts the hell up.
That goes for all actors. Their jobs don't require any real intelligencve. They pretend to be someone they're not, repeat lines someone else wrote, and get paid (too much) for it.
Yup. One is reminded that in Ancient Rome actors were viewed on a similar level to prostitutes. For good reason.
My initial point was that many actors are so bad at their acting profession that you can see their actual personalities shining through and you’ve become so used to that lower standard, mistakenly expecting the same with the “better actors” (I consider Cranston to be one of the better ones), meaning that the ones being able to appear intelligent have actually more going on upstairs.
Case in point: Sir Patrick Stewart. Dude's actually a simpleton. Great face. Great voice. Can memorize lines and make emotion faces. But dude's intelligence is 90% accent.
Better to be "on strike" (I love that he put it in quotes, btw) than unemployed is a pretty eye-opening statement, that more or less confirms what I suspected: Some of the writers on the picket lines don't have anything better to do. We'll have to wait and see what happens, because this could just lead to every Joe Schmo writer getting promoted as a "writer-producer" just so they can benefit from those sweet guarantees, but I have enjoyed your coverage of the strikes. Never tried to feed us a 'victim narrative', like everywhere else. Thank you
This is spot on. I’m a producer and can 100% attest to the lack of quality storytelling in the US that engages and entertains the audience.
Finally, the work on the Season 2 of Rings of Piwer can resume. I can't wait to not watch it but follow Disparu's reviews since they are so much more coherent and entertaining than the thing itself.
The Rings of Money laundering is manna from heaven for UA-camrs.
Worth it just to see deepfake Gandalf trash it
I just read an article about the classic sitcom 'A Different World' (I had a huge crush on Jasmine Guy). Debbie Allen talked about how when she came to the show as an executive producer (what we'd call today the actual showrunner) in the second season that at that time, writers were considered "gods" and everyone was just expected to do the show exactly how they scripted it out. This was in the late 80s.
I think the long term results of this contact will demonstrate that is definitely not the case anymore.
I hear the gaslighting from the WGA by the “what we won” declaration when in reality it should have been titled “what we lost.”
What are my thoughts? I don’t care mate. I haven’t watch pretty much anything in YEARS. I had a few bits on Amazon, but 90% of that was retro movies and shows. Which I’ve slowly collected on physical media over the years.
Hollywood can rot. No one will miss it. 😊
Pretty much this. Been watching old films and TV shows for years now and have barely scratched the surface of what's out there. They aren't needed and besides, they don't want me as a customer, as they've said repeatedly.
This is BY FAR the best video about the WGA strike on the tube! The intricacy of your research really shines through and puts drinkers’ and even nerds’ opinions on the strike to merely base runners on the pads…you hit cleanup and send em’ home with a “ Grand Salami!” Nicely done😎
The amount of actors with 3 uncredited IMDB listed yelling WAHOOO was insane!! They were acting like everyone gets 14k a week cartè blanchè.
Re the guy complaining he didn't earn enough to vote- yeah, I've noticed a lot of the more outspoken WGA and SAG members have barely any credits. Such as the writer that did post it notes in her cabin, Rebecca Klingel. She has just 2 past tv credits, for one ep each of Haunting of Hill House and Haunting of Bly Manor. Her main output is podcast series.
Wait, so they dont just let anybody with a pulse (and some without) vote? But isnt that like fascisms or something?
Bummer. I want the strike to continue forever. It's not as if they are creating anything of value.
They don’t need a room full of crapy writers who’s only purpose is to show up for photo ops to show the world how diverse they are.
$14,000 per week? Boy, I'm in the wrong job!
So were a lot of those writers.
It’s $14k/wk for a month or two (4-8wks) a year, if you’re lucky. There are thousands of writers competing for a handful of jobs, so the vast majority of them aren’t making anything, and only a few are making something. And I’m OK with that.
@@the_absurd_hero $112k for 8 weeks of work? I'm definitely in the wrong job.
And right when the strike is over, we hear about an Office Reboot and a Censored Live-action Bambi. Great consistency.
Soooo, a large portion of these writers who produced gems like Batwoman, Willow and Gotham Knights are now out of the job?
*Oh dear, Anyway...*
Dont remind me of Gotham Knights **sheds tear**
A string of failures, a lack of money, and the people responsible for the failures refuse to work unless they get more money. Imagine my shock when you see this outcome lol!
Must be awkward when the writers finally come back to the office. All the people who were sitting on their asses losing money bcs of them, I would not want to be in that room...
The thing that angered me is this video is the faux writer rooms. I think it was Sanderson who said the thing about writers is they need to be writers. They can’t not write. I have a friend and neither of us moved to LA because we didn’t want to, but we write. We made a musical that we produced our selves thirteen years ago. Any time we hang out, we talk about stories and spitball ideas. I cannot imagine a scenario where we got together to write and didn’t, but these brats that are paid to do it didn’t. So infuriating.
Because these folks aren’t writers, they are activists knowingly hired by studios who are also activists. None of this is organic.
Diversity hires to check off boxes, can you imagine sitting in an airplane waiting to taxi or you’re about to go under anesthesia for an operation and you hear: 1) the Captain say, “hey co-pilot what do all these switches do?” 2) Doctor says, “nurse hand me that sharp thingy, no we’re in a hurry, no time to sterilize anything!” And now you’re questioning why feelings are more important than knowledge, experience and facts, just before you go under!
Hopefully they can FINALLY produce some quality shows. Most of these people need to find other work, sincerely
Don’t forget the agenda still needs pushed so, don’t get too excited.
@@michaelwills1926 sure, but at this point they are pushing whatever to themselves. I just want a good story
WGA Writers: "We're getting starvation wages! I can't pay my rent! California, GIVE ME UNEMPLOYMENT!!!!!!!1!!!!1!!!1!!"
Also WGA Writers, months into the strikes: "I built a new WH40K for $1000!"
I reject the statement that the writers crushed Hollywood.
Hollywood crushed Hollywood.
Hollywood continues to crush Hollywood.
I am still not sure about all this. Their Employers were stupid to keep doubling down on all those crappy Shows and Movies, yet had the sense to use this opportunity to get rid of a lot of that? That would imply learning from mistakes and it would sure surprise me if they finally remembered that being a thing to strive for
Yeah, it seems more likely this was a way to starve out the few remaining decent writers in hollywood while the approved woke commie writers were given stipends and promises of future work.
One thing I don't understand is why wouldn't studios just hire writers that aren't part of the union. I'm sure there gotta be people (starving students struggling with debt?) who are willing to do it for that kind of money.
The minimum earnings to vote is more of a seniority check than anything. If you only started writing a month before the strike, no matter how skilled or informed a writer you are, you will be shafted by the WGA. It's yet another union thing where they know that after the strike comes the workforce reduction, so they're gonna protect by seniority than talent.
Ten years ago, there were about 20 current TV shows we watched. Now, we watch nearly exclusively old shows that have been off the air for years.
This strike also forced the revocation of work visas that were contingent on the fact that these people are gainfully employed by the studios. They’ll be a lot of people going back home.
I'm very thankful that my film work IS NOT forced through any Hollywood filters. Very thankful, 100% indy!
I’m over here making 1K a week wanting an extra hundred dollars to be able to get by and these people are making 10K a week and complaining that they only got a 4K raise. Unbelievable. I would absolutely love making that kind of money. Only in Hollywood do you see this sort of craziness.
A thousand a week isnt bad at all
@@JohnS-il1dr I know, right, until inflation hit. I was really happy with that level of income.
Yeah I'd be smiling like Eddie Murphy all the time if I got paid that
Now that is a transcript worth 14K. Keep up the great work Disparu
The economy is screwed. I'm an accountant and two start-ups I work on are having massive problems getting funding in recent months. They've now changed from paying silly high salaries and bonuses and claiming silly amounts on expenses for lunch to firing people while paying silly high severance and their expenses cost control haven't improved yet despite not paying their rent. I basically expect the plug to get pulled any day on them. If this applies across a lot of the economy a lot of massively unprofitable companies relying on debt and investors don't have long left.
The WGA played themselves.
But if this results in less hactivists, I'm okay with that.
Don’t get your hope too high
Get Bryan Cranston to pay for them. His residuals get more money in a month than most people will earn in a lifetime. He's clearly back on the crack, and now he's as confused as Hal. Perfect timing if you ask me !
Oh, and tell him he still owes me £20 from last time. He said he was out of work...but I didn't really believe him. He said that he had met people I've never heard of. I've blocked him on my phone.
The NWA may have capitulated to The Man, but I'm sure - _sure_ - that they'll honour their word to support the Film Actors Guild who are still on strike.
Right.
_Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?_
Writers strike or otherwise, Western entertainment is straight doodoo. Just look at Castlevania noturne. What a disaster. Google and the rest of the machine are censoring or gatekeeping negative reviews it is THAT bad.
Shame because I like the VG... it's the game that got me into playing video games.
The WGA needed 19 writers per show, times 600 shows, for full employment. With only 300 shows, and no more than six mandated writers, 85% of them will be out of a job.
How can there be too few jobs for writers when there are more tv channels and subscription services churning out more programmes in the history of tv series. Most of them are utter crap of course.
Senior writers of the WGA to junior ones, 'Some of you may lose your jobs, but it's a sacrifice we're willing to make.'
As a Maths teacher, I salute your impressive logic!
Just started watching Melrose Place from the beginning yesterday. It reminded that it is possible to write a tv show that can be interesting and light fun at the same time. Also making me wonder why these people who suck at what they are doing are demanding more money to suck? If I did this badly in my daily job I would be fired.
Right now Brian Cranston is being told that he’ll accept this and shut up or he won’t have a job. You better believe he’ll shut up
I just can't get over just how much these people get paid to produce absolute trash. Like, in 2 weeks, one of these mandatory affirmative action writers makes more than I do in a YEAR.
Ngl I'd rather have AI writers than 99% of the trash that has come out of hollyweird/hollywoke for years now.
I'll give AI writers a chance. AI promises to gain experience and get better at an frighteningly unprecedented rate the more experience it gains. So unbelievably better than entertainment in the past decade.
Ok your a class traitor then
You do know what Ai is trained on, right🤡
Also pfp checks out, so of course you‘d say that
@@M-S_4321What are you even talking about? Haven’t recent studies shown that e.g chatgpt is getting worse over time at even normal things like math? Also how tf are you saying that a robot „gains experience“ with a straight face💀
When Satan runs your busniess, dont expect empathy from managment and dont expect the public to be on your side.
The problem isn't that they can't deliver the good stuff, it's that they won't deliver it.
"only 14k a week" - excuse me, what? "Only"? ONLY? I knew this union was greedy but wow.
Fortunately for the guild leadership, every single member of their union thinks they are easily the best writer in the world.
The last minute and a half is exactly what I've been saying all along. If they were any good at this, they could have negotiated for better deals but the fact is, they're not. There's a reason Joel Haver is making tons of money off of sponsors, UA-cam, and Patreon. It's because people actually want to watch what he makes.
A blow in a long war against these people.
Imagine if they got bonuses when a project succeeds and deductions when it fails, perhaps like real business. They'd be on skid row in less than a few months.
Time to follow the UK model. 6 episode runs, 13 episode runs etc. pack more quality in shorter running time.
I think the episode counts were high in the US so that everyone can make more money. Most shows have filler episodes (aka “just ticking over, we have no real idea what to do” episodes).
Look at UK series. Short series and very few filler episodes happen.
Yeah which can and indeed work!
Cool...my friends lost their home in these 5 months due to rent being too high. Glad Hollywood gets to waste millions more on "entertainment".
WE ARE UNION-thru and thru-ALL THE WAY TO THE END…!
😂😂😂
it’s the 50th time at least hearing that person yelling his lungs out “we are union, through and trough all the way to the end”…it’s becoming unbearable, almost triggering the urge of finding this guy and, while holding tight onto his jacket, explaining him how f*cking embarrassing him and his speech were
I for one welcome a reset of the current low-quality Hollywood machinery, maybe international productions see this as a chance to improve their quality and further gain popularity in American and other western markets.
I recommend a lot of the KDramas, they have been investing in their shows, the actors really care and put in the effort, and the stories are genuine, heartfelt and well done. China too. Japan still sometimes ‘overacts’ but there are some really good ones out there.
So those starvation wages are looking a lot more real now. Look I'll be honest the only people I would back in strike action is the CG artists and maybe stunt artists. CG is carrying way too many films on their back and the stunt people risk their lives. Also the thing is now the weaker writers have possibly screwed themselves over. We'll see as the phrase goes "It's who you know, not what you know". Studios should not be able to afford half assed story telling. If you're involved in a project that sinks you likely won't be hired anymore. Maybe this will help story telling in the long run but it will also screw over any promising new writers who want to come into the industry which is bad for everyone. What studio is going to take a risk on new talent now?
2:40 I remember when the CEO of AIG insurance said the same when they were given bail-out money. "We want our customers to feel as though they're being taken care of." AS THOUGH.
Clearly, letting go of writers who exist to provide "diverse visibility" was the only correct call to make.