Lakers Ideal Offseason! Donovan Mitchell To LA Trade, Plus JJ Redick Snubs Anthony Davis?!
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- On the first ideal offseason roster build, Trevor Lane takes a look at a world in which the Lakers trade for star guard Donovan Mitchell. It's not easy to get there and there are a lot of hoops to jump through. Plus, JJ Redick left Anthony Davis off his All-Defensive team ballot, how big of a deal is it?
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Update: In an interview Rich Paul just said Bronny James won’t take a 2-way contract. If push comes to shove LA could still give him a roster spot with this build if it came to that
What happens when a second round pick “rejects” a 2-way contract? Do they become FAs?
@@MC-qf8opYes
Lakers are done 😂😂
I still don't believe anyone would draft someone to get a 40 year-old join or re-sign. But the NBA is strange enough for it to happen.
I will read the rest of your comment but let me respond to the first part
I never once thought this team is going to be any better. You can go back and look at all my comments for the past two seasons. I took a lot of hate for saying this team would go nowhere
I screamed about rebounding all season last year and then Trevor finally talked about it during the Golden State series and when he did he acted like it was something new
I screamed about it all season long and then Trevor would occasionally mention it and say it was a problem in some specific game
Eventually he started saying it was kind of a problem or a trend
Complete nonsense. It is literally the number one issue facing this team and it has been for 2 years including even when Westbrook was here
Expectation: Donovan Mitchell
Reality: Kris Dunn😂
😂😂😂 exactly
Kris Dunn wouldn't be a bad signing for depth.
😂😂😂😂
Least Dunn a better defender.
Or Trae which is even worse, yeah I said it
The favoRable pRefeRence..
How can JJ be head coach if he doesn't see the value of AD on defense? KCP over AD? Na man, JJ should be disqualified on that alone.
Who said that he dosen't see the value in AD
@@Flush0000 he did with his vote
Exactly
@@ochitokes That's not the same as being a coach
@@Flush0000It’s worse because right he could be unbiased in his opinion. Which means this is his real opinion of AD.
How does JJ think AD is not a top 10 defender? Now im even more worried about his judgement and awareness.
I don't know. I kind of like the thought of someone who isn't afraid to push Anthony Davis to be better
The truth is some narratives exist for a reason and Anthony Davis is soft
In fact, he's a front-runner.
@@LN-LiferIt’s pushing him to be better to say he’s just top 5. It’s disrespectful to say he’s not even top 10.
To be fair, being left off an All Defensive team doesnt mean youre snubbing the guy...That just means Reddick has a couple of CENTERS above AD on defense
You guys really expected Reddick to put AD over Caruso at GUARD??
lol
@@Nostalgia9478you know the vote is not based on position? Its top 10 overall. If it was, then no big deal.
Please stop acting like fanboys 😅
that should be a negative for JJ lol we are all witnesses how AD should be the DPOY
JJ is so bogus for that shit, it’s not an opinion to say at WORST, AD is a top 5 defender in the league. It’s just facts and I’ll stand on that all day everyday 🗣️🗣️🗣️
I always thought he was overrated, he did an analysis on Bird where he says Bird wouldn't be successful in today's game when we see 6'7 Luka successful and Bird is taller and more athletics, he pretty much just time travel Bird into the future without consideration that Bird growing up in today's modern basketball would adjust his game accordingly and will be just as successful if not more
Bird plays nothing like Luka what are you talking about, bird best skill is in the post meanwhile Luka plays like like a modern day guard. Literally bird plays more like ad than Luka. Watch more ball
Haha he’s your next coach 😂😂😂😂🤗🤗🤗😂
@@cityboydrobi2526 comparing Bird to AD is just ridiculous, Bird back then was considered an outside shooter and 3 point shooter, they didn't take as much 3s back then so if you upgrade him to today's game, he's very much like Luka or Jokic without being a center
I am concerned now about making JJ Reddick the head Coach of our Los Angeles Lakers. It was an insult to Anthony Davis not even being in his top ten on defense really.
i cant lie that is very suspect. AD is such a freaking defense monster. its a crime he not at least in a top TEN..... TEN ... we're talking T E N here !!!
Sam Cassel, won 2 nba championships and coached in 2 nba finals
He won 2 with the rockets and one with the Boston Celdicks lol 😂
The ideal offseason is the exact same as it has been for 2 years
Get a true big/ rebounder and a coach who is willing to play him.
And then hope and pray that Davis can stay healthy again. And father time doesn't finally crush LeBron completely
You guys had your ideal off-season. That roster wasn't better than 2020 like you all thought, it was a catastrophe. And we can thank D'Lo, Spencer and Vanderbilt for making the playoffs at all. Yet you are all blaming D'Lo for a depth chart that looked like a G-league scrimmage at the SG and SF position.
If I here length one more time I swear to God I'll go on a 10 page rant about what having 7 power forwards on a roster with AD and LeBron does to a team and it ain't pretty.
It's time for LA to come to their senses and get a starting SG and SF, who are 3&D players with elite defense. Then nobody is going to say a word about needing an old school big that will only get targeted in the high screen and roll like teams targeted Reaves, Prince, Rui and D'Lo all day every day. That entire idea won't work any more if there aren't 3 mismatches concurrently on the court and teams can no longer set franchise records in 3s made against us like 3! teams did last season. And when they can't shoot 50% against us, they will have to get into the paint and that won't be easy any more either, because you can't just run over Austin Reaves and make the pass, when AD comes over.
The ideal off-season has been the same for 3 years actually. Get Caruso back. Get OGA and give up Rui and all those silly picks that turn into nothingness line JHS and Max anyway. We don't need guys that have the potential to be good once LeBron retires and we have to rebuild around AD. Who gives a crap? I want another ring now. I am not worried about building for when AD gets close to retirement.
You can all stick your traditional big where the high screen and roll doesn't shine.
Huge red flag the AD on third team defense
Not really Anthony Davis can’t stop anybody one on one. He’s a great Help side defender, but he hasn’t shut down anybody he’s gone against yet.
@@basketballgod2791Rudy Gobert won DPOY and Jokic is dropping 40 and triple doubles on his head lol
@basketballgod2791 He stops people one on one far better than Rudy Golbert you clown
Yea ummm.....JJ saying no defensive anything for AD is a HUGE RED FLAG
@@WavesBland26JJ has fans?
It's not a red flag. AD was not elite on defense this season compared to what he did in the playoffs last season. Does it mean he doesn't deserve all NBA? No, but it doesn't make JJ Reddick's assessment wrong.
It was probably his honest opinion as an analyst prior to being considered for the Lakers coaching job.
Uh no Trevor, it does not pain me to give up AR15 for Donovan. LOL..... As far as I'm concerned everyone below LBJ and AD fell off in the playoffs. The Lakers need guys who can step up in the playoffs.....
I don't think we need 3 stars, rather get bunch of players who can play more then 1 role.
exactly! for the Lakers, a role player does what LeEGO says to do, rather than doing what they KNOW how to do, and doing what they do BEST. It's ALL ABOUT LeEGO, PERIOD.
Not that easy. Two way Role players dont grow on trees and arent cheap. Lakers also have a ton of players on contract
Get Jarrett Allen, dejounte Murray
🤦♂️ with what cap space would that be possible. You could afford 1 maybe
A 3rd round draft pick should be sufficient for both players.
- Lakers fans
THIS! 99% of what we need & everybody healthy come play off time. Add a 3&D like Trent Jr for depth
Great video!
I really love taking a deep look at roster construction and building a team! If you could make more videos like this that would be fantastic.
In my ideal scenario, Lebron would take a paycut to add PG13 on the roster, who still is an excellent 3andD player.
The roster would look like:
PG: Reaves, CP3, Spencer
SG: PG13, Christie, Bronny
SF: Vando, Lewis
PF: Bron, Rui
C: AD, Valanciunas, Wood
Lenght, defense, shooting, playmaking, depth, and versatility.
Plus the Lakers gets to keep most of their picks for the future or mid-season trades.
It'd take a major ask from Bron to give away a lot of money to do this, but due to Pelinka's incompetence, that's the only way I can see we building a championship roster again.
reaves, dinwiddie and an ancient cp3 over dlo ... hell no.
@@kosmique DLo would cost 20+ million, CP3 and Dinwiddie would be vet minimum contracts. Huge difference.
Why is no one talking about trading for Robert Williams III. I think he would be a great fit in a depth build. Hope to see him considered next video.
Don’t want Mitchell at his price point. No more short expensive guards!
But keep taller inconsistent playoff folders at the guards position. Mitchell is a proven playoff superstar
I love reaves but sadly, if mitchell wants to be a laker, i will trade dlo, rui and reaves for him in a hearbeat
Dan Gilbert will never ever allow the Cavs to trade Donovan Mitchell to the Lakers. Think of a very cold day in Hell. Not happening. Jonas V is a very slight possibility but a definite stretch
Let everyone never forget he was the loser who pushed David Stern to block the CP3 trade
Seriously we need to move on from this Donovan Mitchell stuff
I am not saying it will happen but did pelicans did the same with AD trade 🤔 it still on mitchell decision where he will land not dan gilbert 🤷
If scenario is market is bad for DLo, why is a team stepping up to trade for him at 18m. If it’s a team that can absorb his salary, why wouldn’t they just sign him for the MLE?
This still isn’t a championship winning roster. We have the same problem as last year , no outstanding big bruising center that can share the floor with ad plus we still have a starting 5 that consists of two skill guards and no real poa presence. I was big on the big 3 model considering olympics and lebron being 40 but now seeing how everything unfolds I think depth and quality role players is the way to go.
Trevor, you are good with the podcast, but I have to say you are outstanding with the numbers. You need to be somewhere in the Lakers front office. You are on point with the numbers. You know the players in the league, not just the Lakers players, and you have a plan A, B, & C...
people be sleeping on the great trevor lane
Let’s make smart decisions in hiring the right coach and especially getting the right players on this team. That’s all I want.
Coach is JJ Redick
I liked all of this except for the rotation. I don't think a backcourt of Donovan and CP3 makes sense. I'd slide Donovan to the 1 and Christie to be the starting SG. Yes, Donovan acts like a SG but having someone out there with size who can be a 3-D prototype like Christie, feels safer and flows better, IMO.
Now can you do off season for depth instead of 3rd star??
The video I've been waiting for. I was literally watching a different important video & started scrolling & seen this & turned that other 1 off immediately
Awesome suggestions. Thanks Trev. Can somebody forward this to the Lakers management and front office?
My concern with JJ's voting is only if it is a reflection of his ability to coach. If not, it doesn't matter, as long as he gets them titles. About your break down, I appreciate that you approached it with a realistic point of view. My biggest concern is the lack of depth and athleticism.
This is what we’ve been waiting for Trevor!
I was able to pull off the DMitch/Okoro trade last night lol.. it took Austin Reaves, Vando, and Rui and every 1st Rd I could move 😂😂.. the trade left me depleted with wings so I had to flip Okoro/Gabe and some 2nds for Jalen Duren( which would never happen) and Simone Fontecchio from Detroit
With Mitchell and A.D Lakers will be champions.
JJ automatically disqualified for that
Agree with you 100%!!! JJ just disqualified himself from the Lakers HC job! F…k him!
DLo going to the nets into their exception. I think Rui needs to be in the deal. DLo, Rui and Reaves should be the offer.
Really liked this episode
With bickerstaff being let go i see Mitchell resigning back with the Cavs
Was the coach an issue for Mitchell? I haven’t heard.
@@jamesjones6315 not sure but with such uncertainty around Mitchell resigning or not , letting go of the coach seems like a clear indication of what direction they’re heading in and who they want around.
Donovan Mitchell and a big body center that can block shots and rebound should be our priorities. I also dislike Rui on this team. He doesn't fit in our starting line up because he doesn't play defense well and his jump shot is sporadic. He is NOT a 3 and D guy. He was also not willing to come off the bench where he could be the 6th man type of guy. We should try to trade him for a player that can come off the bench and score. Vando should be his replacement as a starter. Our defense should be what defines us, that's what won us a chip. Mitchell AD and Bron should be enough offense for us, we just need defensive players around them and a couple of guys that can shoot 3's.
I’m not seeing a ball dominate guard working with a ball dominate Lebron and AD who really needs his touches in half court sets. Lakers would be better off with 2 stars and trying to if at all possible bring in a wing that can score.
JJ Redick:
Jerry West ? He ain’t so hot, he was being guarded by plumbers and firemen!
Back then, a lot of players couldn't live on their NBA salary alone, so there's some truth to that. Also, West lost a lot of Finals to the Celtics and only won 1 title ,,, Same reason Wilt is underrated, he dominated but only won 1 title.
With the 17th pick, look at Cal'el Ware....
can we create a tremendous team in lew of a 200 mil guard!!!!! There are quite a few very good players that can make our team great off the bench!!!!!! These are bigs, 3 point shooters, and ball handlers.
Monk, KCP, Gary Trent, Keli Ubre, Caruso, Dorian Finey-Smith, Brogdan etc. These are bigs, Valanciunas, Dwight, Drumond etc. We have minimum players, mid level contracts, free agent players and our contract
Reddick probably voted based off win/loss record.
Edit: It also seems a bit optimistic that we'd be able to hold onto both Rui and Vando in a trade.
This is funny video. This team ain’t beating Nuggets, OKC, Dallas, Wolves
It's not a big deal AD was snubbed off of JJ Reddick's all-defensive ballot. This season he was not the monster defender that we saw in the playoffs last season, though his offense picked up. It's also amazing no one is criticizing AD on defense. Why? Because people just look at stats. Had he played elite defense this season his offense would have gone down and everybody would call him a bum. I will say if he had help in the center position he probably would have had more energy on defense but he played every night at center which we know he doesn't like to do. Common sense it's taxing on his body. Look what he did when we had Dwight and JaVale McGee. We all know what he can do defensively he just needs the right pieces around him but when our back up centers are Christian Wood and Jaxson Hayes then he has to pick up the slack.
Hey Trevor, what are your thoughts on DJ Burns... Very intriguing I would keep him if we was able to draft him.
Can you do ideal offseason going for Mikal Bridges?
We really need a solid defender/rebounder and that is vando with rui (big body, good scorer and defender) to back him from the bench. If we want mitchell then we should pair him with a solid guard defender and I am hoping that Christie would develop into a 3 and guy.
Mitchell/Spencer
Christie/
Vando/Rui
Bron/
AD/
Great roster build. How I would do the rotation is Mitchell max Vando Bron Ad starting and then Dunn prince Rui c wood and Goga coming off the bench. In my opinion.
That’s what I said get Dejounte Murray and Jared Allen if we can do it
I think this could work…we would have a solid chance at a title with this team. Easily get to 3rd seed with Spider from the start…
For those who want to know more, check out Jovan Buha's latest piece on what blueprint Lakers should follow.
This is typically why I dislike the big three roster. It’s three stars and then a whole lot of nothing.
Right now they have two stars and then a whole lot of nothing.
Why would you need to give TPMLE to Prince? Just resign him with early Bird
I don't think Lakers have TP bird rights
I'd prefer Drummond over Goga for sure, but I really like the roster build. Rui really needs to make a lot of leaps defensively next season and Vando needs to improve his 3 point shooting to 33-35% on at least 2-3 attempts a game.
F purple and gold glasses I want the most realistic option
This dude sucks and doesn’t know shyt about building a roster
Might as well run it back if that’s the best the lakers can do lol
JJ keeping it real, I like that!
JJ is being honest. The Lakers need a lot of improvement
If the Lakers hire JJ for more than a assistant I'm jumping ship 🛳
Solid roster. Just didn;t like shipping Reaves away. Hopefully there's a scenario where they don't get Mitchell and go another route to build out the roster with more depth.
If they get DMurray, then Markkanen is a good fit.
Murray, Norman Powell/McCollum, oubre jr, AD & Markkanen.
Dinwiddie, skylar, tj Warren, LBJ, Ware
huff, vonleh, shaq Harrison, duarte, luka samanic/jhernangomez
JJ REDICK SEEMS to be borderline delusional with his opinions. He’s Just trying to look smart.
If Bron took a slight cut could they have access to the TPMLE and bring back Tauren using birds rights? If winning is his priority taking a small cut to open up adding an above a minimum player could go a long way
Is it possible to swap reeves with rui in that Donovan trade? This way you keep another ball handler with you and not have to fully rely on CP3. Move Woods to the 4 to address depth issues on that position. Then get preferrably drummond instead of Goga. Or get them both if possible since you're sending out more salary in that donovan trade if you use rui instead of reeves
This roster still has depth in my opinion. Yea I’m worried about the guard position n also the wing position because injuries r a thing . How much u want to put on Bron n AD because they gone be coming back from team USA
If JJ left off AD as some 21st century chess to motivate him, he might just be the next Pat Riley.
The fact that Cleveland is not considering JJ Redick as a candidate for their HC could mean that they don't believe he is a HC material. Nothing to do with the rumours about the Lakers HC position.
It would be beyond stupid if the Lakers pick JJ Redick over other candidates who are more qualified than him.
Trevor Lane, just so ypu know, Sibonis is an amazing player and on both ends of the court!
Man if lebron takes 40 and we improve the pg spot in this situation we will win a chip easily get Gary Payton or KCP Lebron and Mitchell will bring the ball up anyway someone like that Chris starting is ruff at this point in my opinion
I like your roster build
Thank you for bringing up that JJ doesn't appreciate AD as a defensive player
He’s going to make him top 10 when he becomes the coach
My ideal
PG Reaves/Gabe/dunn
SG Max/dinwidie/bronny
SF bron/rui/cam
PF lauri/vando/wood
C davis/drumond
~ give gabe last shot he fit perfect when he plays back to old form (He is hard to trade anyways because he is (-)value. Max start he is bigger and switchable from 2-3 to help bron at wing lauri will give size and replace dlo flr spacing. Drumond will solve "some" of rebounding issues and size
I love your roster build, but I would keep Austin and try to deal rui if possible.
Could we attach a pick to Dlo for Jonathan Isaac of Orlando? Rui, Gabe & a pick for Bruce Brown and Jalen McDaniels?
JaVale McGee as a second big is more realistic
His opinion don't matter. He has no coaching experience
It’s an opinion based when voting for awards. All subjective, can’t get too mad about that. Although I disagree w jj
CP3/Spencer/Dunn
DMitchell/MaxC/Merrill
Vando/Rui/Prince/Maxwell
LBJ/Wood
AD/Goga
AD is absolutely 2 maybe the top defensive player in the league
Keep you day job, your internet Gm license has been revoked.
Murray/k porter jr./jhs
Christie /G Trent jr/reddish
N Marshall/G.Haywood/C. Martin
Lbj / vando /woods
A Davis/ N.Ricards
Coach :David adelman rondo or reddick on staff
maybe AD expresses not liking JJ as a coach for the Lakers and JJ has known that.
That would be a nice squad
What are we seeing the last few years with successful teams continuity and youth The Lakers front office continues to go after aging players on one year contracts hence why they are in the play in tournament instead of actually being a contender
I don’t understand how he Redick can be coach of Lakers and not think highly of AD defensive services! I wouldn’t trade for Spida if we had to gut the team. It makes no sense!
Can you make a ideal offseason stream with depth?
To hell with JJ! & to think I was rocking with him
He may care more about record and success led from being the defender etc we dont know what his way of doing this is. So let's not overreact
I like Donovan Mitchell a lot but his health concerns the hell out of me. He only played 55 games, Austin Reaves all 82… Does the Lakers NO GOOD at all if they’re trading for another star who misses games. Can’t bet on AD playing in 76 or more games again with his injury history and LeBron 71 or more for 2 seasons in a row… Build and fill out our depth is the right path for now to go and take an Allstar caliber player, not another superstar!
Now i think JJ can hike his happy ass to Cleveland and second guess those players as coach
Do you think it is realistic for the Lakers to trade Rui and this year's first (plus maybe JHS if needed) to the Cavs for Jarret Allen? That wouldn't give the Lakers spacing but is the best center they could land who could actually improve their defense. It would also give them a better option to throw at Jokic rather than letting AD take on more time defending him
Personally, for me id love to see like us put ad back at the 4 get Drummond and keep hayes and a back up then go get like caruso and or collin sextion, or even chris paul to be our back up pg. Id guess wed have to give up RUI, GABE,JSH, CAM REDDISH, and WOODS i think wed be able to get all that done if we gave up thise guys and picks if dlo opt in that would make all this more likely
Giving up too many assets to only wind up with 3 guys that you can TRULY count on in the playoffs regardless of matchup. Go with depth model. Ideal offseason is adding a big, maybe Jarret Allen via trade and bringing kcp home.
Looks like the FO is going to wait till last minute desperation changes. They have no idea what they are doing
First move. Draft Zach Edey! I’m a lead the push for this!
If they keep the pick and he's there or better yet traded back and he's still available. Hell yeah!!!
He’s be an ok pick. I don’t see him being more than a 15 minute per game back up in the nba, though.
One thing about Vogel & Ham they always preached Defense 1st & always talked about AD being the anchor on defense .. Doesn’t really sit right about this JJ news 😬
Move Wood to the 3rd 4 and Sign Bol Bol Vet Min as a change of pace 5
My prediction is JJ gets hired and they end up trading for Dejounte Murray. It will be a 3 team trade and the 3rd team will be a team DLo wants to go to in a sign and trade. Starting backcourt will be Dejounte and Austin.
Its gonna be JJ....both JJ and LeBron want to be owners in Las Vegas....its not personal...its bidness....ad is not in that business future....this is LeBron's hire.
Imma be honest. . . If this happened, next year would be rough. I'd rather go for depth and I think Reeves needs more of a chance to shine. Force him to take a bigger role.
This thing with JJ not voting for AD for all defensive team. Could we maybe be underestimating JJ just a bit? If you ask me I think he's already planting some seeds. What if he's trying to take AD to an even higher level and by leaving him off all defensive team, and then AD seeing it, maybe it lights a fire in AD and he comes into training camp with a chip on his shoulder with something to prove? I love AD but we've all seen him disappear in whole games or go scoreless in a 2nd half or 4th quarter when game is on the line and we need him. He also gets a lot of criticism for his lack of aggressiveness at times. Not being able to always put the team on his back and carry them when the situation calls for it. Call me crazy but I think JJ is already doing some Lakers coaching just in a very sly way.
Ngl not having AD top 10 after the year he had is enough for me to have a red flag if I’m AD🤦🏾♂️