It is a neat little detail of the story that Kathleen was objectively better than her brother in terms of resistance, managing to actually overthrow FEDRA, but the last wish she ignored from her brother, forgiving Henry, is what lead to her wasting it all in one night.
@@IzzyandLuna Yeah I thought this too, but its super hidden if you don't know what's about to happen. Ignoring what a loved one would of wanted. Loves someone to a fault.
Episode 1- Made me cry Episode 2- Made me cry Episode 3- Made me ball like a baby! Episode 4- We got a reprieve for a week Episode 5- Decides to RIP OUR FRIGGIN HEARTS OUT!
The behind the scenes on this one was pretty good - the whole crew started learning to sign to tell Sam's actor how good he was. Just wholesome as could be. Great react!
Sesskasays: “Last episode was a bit of a break. Not that it didn’t have heavy themes, but I felt like I wasn’t in a puddle of my own tears at the end.” Episode 5: “Don’t worry. I’ll fix that for you 😏 “
FUN FACT: at 15:10 the guy that says: run, find cover, don’t look back is Jeffrey Pierce. The mocap / voice actor of Tommy, Joel’s brother in the game on PlayStation!
Ellie and Joel switch sides at the end. That was the Tess moment from episode 2. Ellie runs ahead while Joel is still waiting at the grave. Tess gave Joel a mission he wanted to fulfill as her last wish. The relationship that Joel had with Tess was similar to Ellie and Sam. Ellie promised (unspoken) Sam the cure here and couldn't keep this promise. She now wants to make sure that this never happens again. As Tess said at the time "save who you can save". Ellie really has a mission now. Indirectly get through her feelings of guilt. She wants her blood to work. Before that, she was someone who had no control over anything. Others have determined where she grows up and where she has to go now. Now that has changed. Now conviction plays a role and she takes control. She wants to save the world so that there are no more Sam's. And while Joel gradually finds his humanity again and lets people into his life again, Ellie loses a little more of herself and she takes the lead here in the end. In addition, Ellie and Joel have reached a new level of connection with each other. Wordless understanding. Both wanted to save the brothers during the attack. That wasn't Joel's "don't do it Ellie" look. That was the look "I'll give you fire protection Ellie". And Ellie has absolute confidence in Joel. There was also a little joke about the game. The moment when the sniper shot and Henry and Sam senselessly ran out of cover, only to return immediately. This is how Ellie behaved very often in the game. She was AI-controlled and she liked to do it. She ran out of cover, right in front of the enemy and then back again. 😁
lmao OH wow! that's so funny! bc that definitely is the way the A.I. reacts and responds, Sam's run was Very animated lol it stood out to me and I couldn't tell why until you. ty.
This series has been such a heartbreaker, but as a big fan of the game I love how faithfully everything's been done. Can't wait to see your reaction to the next 4 episodes!
I never played the game and I like the story so far. Made me cry. What do u mean 4 episodes? Would there be another season? Or is this a limited season only thanks!😅
1. I think this is fundamentally why the story is as good as it is. No matter how much we love how a character is written & fleshed out they are at risk with every step they take so we savor every sec we have with them. No one is safe. Even someone who is seen as a main character like Tess or Sarah (Joel's daughter). That rule of plot armor doesn't really exist in this world. 2. Kathleen's obsession to find Henry was the ruin of Kansas City. Reminds me of another story about a Captain Ahab. "Always remember folks, no matter how broken your heart is NEVER go full obsessive!"
right that's why i think that even tho Kathleen was the one best suited to lead the KC resistance against Fedra, she needed her brother to temper her baser instincts of taking revenge against collaborators. Her intense desire for vengeance blinded her to the possibility that her brother's last wish of forgiveness might've been not only for her benefit but for the good of all the survivors who would look to her for leadership after his death. I believe he knew that was the only way they'd be able to heal and make lives for themselves after all they endured. not to mention the fact that Fedra's defeat meant Kathleen controlled the entire city above ground which had been 100% cleared of infected yet instead of finishing off the underground horde and securing KC's perimeter, Capn Ahab chose to chase her whale.
I don’t know if you’ve seen Ahsoka, but there’s a good quote related to that in the penultimate episode. One of the characters is parting ways from his very ambitious and intense apprentice and he tells her impatience for victory will guarantee defeat.
The people Joel meets on this journey are life lessons. Henry teaches him that good people do bad things to protect loved ones. This is a lesson he carries for some time.
Kathleen going on rather unempathetically about how children die, and Henry should've just let Sam die, only to get taken out by a child clicker was rather poetic. I wish we had clickers like that in the game though. The way it moved was so horrifying and impressive. Spent the lead up to this episode excited to see the Boomer only for it to be overshadowed as soon as that creepy thing crawled through the van window.
The creators pointed out that Kathleen is not necessarily wrong, kids do die all the time, and that Joel was even okay with driving away from a family with kids that needed help because he’s protecting his own and how that kid probably died. So in many ways Kathleen’s logic (because she’s probably seen kids die under FEDRA rule) is not wrong, because if other kids aren’t so special and immune from violence in this world, why would Sam be any different or more special
@@CaptainPikeachu objectively she is right, but also, objectively what made Michael more special than Sam? Kathleen uses objective truth to justify revenge-driven war crimes. It was personal no matter how she wanted to spin it. Michael was a well-loved revolutionary who's death did more for his cause than his life. Kathleen used his death to destroy and then became arguably worse than the previous oppressors, her blinkered motivation resulting in the fall of the entirety of Kansas City. Neither Sam or Michael were more valuable than the other. They were just valued more by those who loved them
the scene was great when you consider the fact Henry still thought of himself as a bad person yet in that moment while instinctively tryna protect Sam from Joel, he over-rode that instinct to save Ellie, someone he'd just met which caused him to kill the person he loved most in the world before he fully comprehended what he'd done. So many conflicting emotions/motivations in his performance. the look of shock, giving way to grief then despair written all over his face, all occurring simultaneously within seconds - if Lamar don't at least get the nomination for an Emmy, it's rigged
This was a great episode, and wonderful reaction again! Go with decapitation over disembowelment, as a general rule. Anyway, both Kathleen and Henry died at the end because of their love for their brother, both because they went to their extreme form of love, vengeful love and self-sacrificing love respectfully. Ellie's belief that she could cure Sam made it so much more painful. I think she genuinely believed that it would work. She is a child, she has been told over and over that she is a cure, she has no understanding about how a cure would be made so it makes sense that she thinks it could be relatively simple... Oh, so sad. She apologized at the grave. When Tess died, Ellie hung around to grieve, while Joel shoved his emotions down grimly and pressed on. This time it was Joel who lingered and Ellie who left. He is becoming more emotional, and she is becoming colder/more traumatized. I also think she left so fast because the faster they leave, the sooner there will be a cure. The sooner that will never happen again (in a child's mind). Everyone we know that Ellie has lost that she had a relationship with, she lost due to the infection. She has been told that she is the cure, that she basically exists to fight the infection. She had her first battle, and she lost. That is what is going through her head, I think. Sam also faced the window. Two things: He knew he wouldn't see Ellie, which means he wouldn't attack her. He was protecting her. As he felt himself turn, he knew he wouldn't hear her. If he couldn't see her, he wouldn't know she was there and thus couldn't attack her. Also, it has been confirmed over the years of the game that runners DO have the person in their head. So Sam was in there when he attacked Ellie. Something to think of though -> If Ellie never touched him, if no one ever touched him or got in his vision, he would be sitting there forever watching the sunset. He's deaf, so he wouldn't hear anything. Once he hit the clicker phase, and he could no longer see, then he would be sitting there in darkness and silence forever. If you play the video game, when you get to the sewers area, get every note from Ish. They give a nod to him which I appreciate (the part of the tunnels with the kid's room and the picture on the wall that says, "Our protectors -> Daddy and Ish." It's a fascinating and heartwarming/heartbreaking story) Fun Facts: Joel collects the comic books in the game for Ellie. Cordyceps is one of the fungi that is composed of chitin; crustaceans and a lot of arthropods also have a lot of chitin in their exoskeleton. As the infected get worse and worse (covered in more and more of the fungus), you can kind of think of it as having more and more armor/exoskeleton.
A sentence that stuck out to me was "it ends how it started" by Kathleen. That pretty much sums this episode up. The world is how it is because of the infected and it is how its going to end. The end of the resistance, the end of sam&henry, the end of the kansas chapter of joel&ellies adventure.
I also think Kathleen's story was a cautionary tale for how Joel nearly ended up after Sarah's death. They're both examples of what can happen after a person loses too much of themselves to that world and the twisted justifications they fool themselves into believing will allow them to understand existence post-apocalypse. at that point, living becomes all about survival, life becomes cheap and everyone becomes expendable. even the lives of children, normally seen as that which must be protected at all costs as they represent hope for the future become simply another burden in a doomed reality. Kathleen's words "it ends how it started" i think signaled her choice to willingly give up her humanity to the notion that's just how the world is, instead of holding onto hope for a brighter tomorrow like her brother wanted. Ironic that ignoring his last words of forgiveness to hunt Sam and Henry lead Kathleen and the KC survivors to be massacred, everything he fought and died for which effectively killed him twice - it ends how it started.
I really enjoy your reactions. The Bloater kill of Perry is what happens in game when Joel gets caught by a Bloater. I have also found it ironically funny that during the 1st 4 reaction videos for a programme based on a exclusive Sony game, there is a x-box controller next to you.
Nice call back (forward?) to the smouldering pile of bones, last episode… The thing that surprised me the most, in this episode, was that Joel didn't realise the sniper was a great shot, but was keeping them pinned.
A core message of the second game is that bloodlust for revenge will destroy you, and nothing good will come of it. They definitely incorporated that here with Kathleen basically getting the whole town killed for her personal revenge. All their fighters got overwhelmed, and now the infected are free to get to whatever survivors there are in the city.
Kathleen presents an interesting contrast. She's lost someone so good and pure, and she clearly lost hope in humanity as a whole and shifted to a more practical mindset. One twisted by vengeance, absolutely, but she's operating with that ruthless calculus in mind...kids die. They can't save everyone. Her brother represented all the good in humanity, in her eyes, and Henry condemned him (and humanity, in her eyes) to death for a single kid to get medicine that would probably help get him better for now, but maybe not forever. She references this in the showdown, going at henry for his willingness to condemn the world for one person. And Henry's more or less on the level with that. He knows he did a horrible thing and is struggling with that. Above all else, he values his brother, his family, at any cost. He IS willing to sacrifice the world if it means Sam lives on, so when Sam turned, and he shot Sam...well, he didn't really see a point in living. There wasn't anything left for him. And that gives Joel something to consider here. Watching the army kill his daughter, his source of goodness and hope in the world, left him with a very practical mindset. He was able to see the corpse of a dead child and not really think anything of it when he dropped him in the fire. He was ready to shoot Ellie when they went looking for Robert. Tess is the only reason Ellie's alive right now. The father in him likely empathized with Kathleen. I'm sure if Tommy hadn't killed that man who killed Sarah, he would have tracked him down to kill him. But he also understood Henry going to any lengths to protect Sam, because he knows he would have done anything to protect Sarah when she was alive.
the actor that plays the big guy is Adam Basil. He was the stunt coordinator for many of the bigger boys on Game of Thrones, and was the stunt double for the Hound (with platform shoes, because 6'6" wasnt tall enough) The infected bloater suit itself, weighed just under 80lbs.
Excellent acting by Bella in the scene where Henry shoots himself. Her whimpers instinctively gave me a fatherly urge to hug her The swarm scene is incredible good and creepy af The "I'm sorry" at the end got me so hard. I cried 4 of 5 episodes and I love this show
I came to see people cry and I wasn’t disappointed! I remember the end scene with Sam and Henry when I played the game when it came out back in the day.
Having played the game, when you said "I love everything!" about Henry and Sam joining up with Joel and Ellie.. my heart sunk... this episode was incredible.. The flood of infected, and we see the "Bloater" for the first time.
it's even more crushing when you realize the infection takes your eyesight and as he was deaf... he would of sat, staring into nothing forever while his brain just withers away.
Something that they go into far more in game that was one of my personal favourite elements, is the underground community founded by Ish. You can find a series of notes that detail how it started and expanded, how endearing and good a lot of these people were and the tragedy of how things fell apart. There is a misable room which everyone who knows will know what I'm talking about, but I won't ruin anyone's day with if it for those who don't cause its heartbreaking. One of my real favourite moments though is when the group in speculating on what happened and its actually Joel to say "god knows they didn't deserve it", I dunno that just always hit me.
Love seeing your reactions! But regarding the two deaths… Perry got to go thinking he was saving Kathleen (and it was the quicker version), yet Kathleen got to go hesitating over the guy she tore the world apart to find… and knowing she failed 😄
We both got the heartbreak on that scenes.. HBO TLOU really going to rip our hearts out.. If you watch TROY BAKER interview.. He said and i qoute; " in this show you will cry a lot." See you in the next.. 😊
@Sesskasays, 23:09 The theme is family, and what one is willing to do for their family. Joel froze the last time he had a chance to safe Sarah--he believed the military would protect them, and so he dropped his guard. Tommy shot a soldier dead to save what he could of his family. Tess sacrificed herself to save the only family she had left, Joel and even Ellie. After living a full and satisfying life with the love of his life, Bill checked out with Frank, but not before leaving Joel an important reminder about family. Kathleen and Henry are the extremes of what a person does for family, and these extremes brought a cruel and cold end to both their stories. Sam was Henry's purpose in the same way Frank was Bill's, and once Sam was gone Henry felt lost and he had to go ='( Sam's death was so much worse in this version of the story because Sam told Ellie that he was bit and they had time to save him! Thanks to the poster on the wall of hospital in the Boston QZ we have a timetable for complete Cordyceps infection: -bites to the neck, head and face: 5 to 15 minutes -bites to the torso, shoulder, arm and hand: 2 to 8 hours -bites to the leg and foot: 12 to 24 hours The poster next to that one told us the symptoms to look out for as well: -slurred speech -coughing -muscle spasms -mood change Sam couldn't speak, but I think is conduct with Ellie shows that he was still very much him when he showed her that he was bit. She and Sam should have told an adult in the room! The first episode showed us at least three amputees, so we know amputation works! Sam might have still died given that the dirty hotel room they were in and the lack of proper tools and medication, but that's a problem they could have dealt with afterwards, but more importantly, the little bit of extra time likely could have saved at least Henry's life. Henry died believing he failed Sam ='( I think they made this change to further develop Ellie's story. She was feeling pretty invisible and a bit careless--she's a child, I get it, but in this world, she can't afford to be one. She needs to be alert and this horrible lesson is going to make her do that ='( We are at the halfway point, and this story was a reminder that people who've made it this far, are doing the same thing everywhere, ENDURING and SURVIVING, and that's not living. Ellie asked Joel a little while ago something like, if you've given up on the world, what's the point of going on. It's a good question, as hope and living in the moment is living. Bill and Frank were proof that you can have a life in this new world, a fulfilling life. Will Joel get to where Bill and Frank were? Will Ellie learn from the mistakes of he past? The next half of this story is going to be wild, and I cannot wait!
This group of hunter, like most others in this world are brutal. We gotta rememver that Joel was one of them before and he is not in a "its in the past" state yet. Its still very much a part of him and it shows when he can kill with ease. Gotta remember he is no hero. Just our protagonist haha
I'm not the kind of person that comments, never have before, but I stumbled onto your channel and I've been watching your reactions to this series. I had to let you know how I feel and what I think. WOW, your amazing. This is one hell of a series, it brings out so many emotions, and your in for one hell of a ride. Love the energy and emotions you show, as well as how your so engrossed at times you stare in wide eyed amazement, it's like it brings out the kid in you, and it's beautiful watch. It's a pleasure, and so refreshing to see such an appealing and lovely, classy woman such as yourself, with those beautiful, big pretty eyes, kick back, watching a show, just being yourself, and having fun while doing it. I am truly impressed mi amour, as well as a new subscriber, fan and admirer. Look forward to more reactions, and to getting thru this "BEAST" of a series with you.
What was really interesting to me was the fact that Kathleen couldn't see passed the beam in her eye while trying to kill Henry for the mote in his. She made this big speech about how Sam wasn't the center of the world and Henry made the wrong choice by sacrificing her brother to save his. But she's essentially doing the same thing. To avenge her brother (who is dead by the way! I mean at least Sam was still alive at that point!) she essentially sacrificed Kansas City by ignoring the serious signs of the infected rising up. Damn shame.
I love games, honestly it's reached a point where games are just like any media, I saw the same thing happen with anime, when I was a kid cartoons were for kids and that was that, but as animation has moved along and anime from the east came over her more it just became another way to tell a compelling story and things like Monster or Ghost in the Shell came about, some of the greatest works of fiction ever created...games have hit a point where they're no different, they can tell a compelling, powerful story but you just happen to be able to interact with it...kind of a great time to be around lol
Even though Sam's death was the biggest reason why Henry offed himself, I feel like the second was everything he did for Sam, all the people that died because of his actions. The Resistance Leader, the doctor, all the people that died from the swarm. He justified his actions because he wanted to keep his brother alive. Suddenly, all the "evil" things he did, as he described, was for nothing. Heartbreaking
I love the hypocrisy of Kathleen saying Sam was supposed to die and the world doesn't revolve around him while she's so deadset on getting revenge for her dead brother as if it's gonna bring him back to life.
@@kmjkmjkmj Well to split hairs Henry didn't kill Michael, Fedra did. Of course you can say Henry knew what'd happen by giving him up but still, he didn't directly kill him.
It's very interesting if you look at it from Melanie's perspective. Her brother and her were leading a good cause to free people. Then her brother gets captured and killed because of someone who thinks about one person rather than all of the survivors. I would also ruthlessly go after Henry. I think she was a very relatable "villian". I wish we could see more of that camps struggle to overtake fedra.
I can understand her vendetta. The real problem is she then herself prioritized revenge on one largely harmless person over the well being of her followers. She ignored all other problems, including the approaching infected, and ended up getting everyone she freed killed.
4:08 LIES!!! Kidding. Tears are unavoidable for this show.. I always watch a show or movie before I watch any reactions. I have to admit that I was feeling a bit bad watching your amazing reaction to this knowing what was coming for you. In retrospect, Bill had the "best" death on the show thus far. He went out in a peaceful way of his own accord, hand in hand with the love of his life. Tess' death may have been the most heroic, but there was much fear and pain involved (you could hear her screams after the capital building was ignited).
ROM AUGUSTINE here sesskasays I've enjoyed your channel for a time threw the years since early 1999 till whenever ok always remember the days that my dad watched with me since he passed away November 30 2022 I find myself watching alone 4 myself and still will be trying to get over my dad's passing away but I'm sure you understand what I'm going through as well but Loved your reaction to the episode U watched eh
I knew it was coming, I was sure I wasnt going to cry like in the game. But this time it was Ellie's little cry/gasp right when it happened that got me, amazing acting. I wasnt as connected to this Ellie as in the game but I think this episode fixed that
They always introduce two new characters, and make us fall in love with them just so they can kill them both at the end of the episode. It's a pattern...
I'm guessing sesskasays u didn't play the games? (I've started the first one but I haven't finished it yet) but the part with Sam and Henry at the end does happen just like that in the games
Kathleen said "Sometimes kids die" And ended up getting beautifully slaughtered by an infected one. Bad guy character did bad guy things and got hers in the end. All her followers died like the monsters they were. See, it doesn't matter what cards life dealt you, fair or unfair. You become a beast, you get taken out like a beast. Henry and Sam's ending is just as sad here as it was in the game. Quite similar too, infact.
Lol, saying you felt like it was about to get messy is an understatement. The theme you talk about with love and revenge are something that the game hits on a lot later but they brought it in early here but this a theme that the games are about and will continue
Yeah, Jess, I'm with you on the fourth episode felt like a bit of a break, tears-wise. In fact, a thought I had following the fourth episode was, “You know, though this didn’t reach the height of excellence of the Bill and Frank episode, this was nice, particularly the reprieve from the crying. Hopefully, that continues for a while; I’m sure Jess would appreciate that.” Thus, my immediate thought following this episode was, “Well, so much for that idea. That didn’t last long at all, now did it?”
13:25 Bookmarking this. I feel what Kathleen said here was, at the very least, food for thought for everyone who heard it, and I wonder what they think about it and how it's going to affect (or how it affected) what they'll do going forward. To quote: "[You don't understand!] But I do. I know why you did what you did. But did you ever stop to think that maybe he was supposed to die? ... (Kids die all the time.) ... You think the whole world revolves around him? That he's worth everything? This is what happens when you fuck with fate." TLDR: actions can have consequences so far reaching or sometimes out of left field, it's basically impossible to predict anything. (So can you really blame someone who was just trying to do what they thought was right at the time?) We don't know what exactly happened in the Kansas QZ. Yes, definitely, there is no excuse for raping, which is one of the things Henry said the Kansas FEDRA did. I wonder though about the murder he mentions... Were they actually just murdering people with no reason? Or was this similar (albeit probably more brutal) to what was happening in the Boston QZ where hanging is the punishment for simply exiting or entering the QZ without permission. Not saying that there were no murders without reason, or all 'murders' must have had a reason in terms of safety for the greater number of people but... if you kind of think about it from a certain perspective, Kansas QZ seems to have effectively driven the infected underground so much so that there's barely any evidence of them on the ground, even outside the QZ walls, unlike in the areas surrounding Boston, for example, where buildings are just covered with fungi, cooked and fresh. Thing is: they survived 20 years apparently relatively free of the infected, and that's probably because of measures FEDRA was imposing. Still, of course, there was a resistance movement. But that resistance, up until 10 days ago, was led by Kathleen's brother who was the forgiving type. So I imagine, yes, he takes action against the murder and especially the rape, perhaps, but he draws the line somewhere, and he takes care not to cross that line. Somehow, I imagined them as some sort of yin and yang? Kathleen and Michael. And they at least had some balance between them when Michael was alive. But without Michael, Kathleen, who says she was never good, had no one to hold her back from crossing the line. And Henry was the cause of the loss of Michael. Because he wanted to save his brother, he ratted out Michael and FEDRA killed him which pushed Kathleen to cross the line and lead an actual uprising that effectively overthrew FEDRA... and further, led her to hunt him down to this housing area... where a whole horde was able to come back up above ground and (probably) kill the whole contingent of resistance fighters... and then probably run to the old QZ with its wide open gates and kill or infect all the rest of the citizens there who has no one left to protect them. I mean... I wonder if Henry at the very least thought of all of that that night before going to sleep. But that maybe he was thinking, yeah, you could call me a bad guy because I, in a way, doomed the whole QZ population. But Sam's ok, right? So it's ok. I can live with it. And then waking up the next day to Sam attacking Ellie... Is this what happens when you fuck with fate? Could he have thought in the seconds just before putting the gun to his head, that it all led to nothing, that it was all his fault - his brother, the QZ - that he was just a bad guy, period? ... ... ... Also... Was Marlene fucking with fate when she didn't shoot Ellie (or stopped others from killing her, whichever)? She didn't kill Ellie when she was clearly bit, she could have turned and killed or infected them all... but she didn't. Instead, she believes in this delusion that Ellie is the key to a vaccine or whatever. Pipe dreams. But then she gets herself hurt and unable to get Ellie out of Boston herself and dumps her on Tess and Joel. And Tess gets bit in the process... Well, Joel is likely a bit past this line of thinking now because he's starting to warm up to and be protective of Ellie, but surely that was where his mind was shortly after they had to leave Tess. And pretty sure he still thinks all the vaccine/cure stuff are just pipe dreams. But I wonder what he thinks now of Kathleen's words? Was Ellie supposed to die? Is she worth everything? (Blame Marlene, too, for giving Joel a second daughter he didn't want. Just kidding, just kidding. 🤪 ) What does Ellie think of Kathleen's words? She seemed so hopeful that her blood would help Sam, it must have destroyed her that it didn't. Does she now still believe that her blood holds the key but that she really just needs to get to the Firefly doctors first? Does she think it's a sure thing that a cure can and will be had if she just gets there? And at what cost? ... ... ...
It's interesting I'm seeing the reactions to this episode tend to have the most views, because everyone wants to see how people react to Henry and Sam's deaths.
It is a neat little detail of the story that Kathleen was objectively better than her brother in terms of resistance, managing to actually overthrow FEDRA, but the last wish she ignored from her brother, forgiving Henry, is what lead to her wasting it all in one night.
I really feel like in a few years people are going to look back and really appreciate Kathleen's character.
@@michaell4292 This was obviously put in to mirror a future storyline with Abby and Ellie but people will be hyprocritical.
@@IzzyandLuna Yeah I thought this too, but its super hidden if you don't know what's about to happen. Ignoring what a loved one would of wanted. Loves someone to a fault.
Was she? The resistance was already formed by her brother, his death just gave them enough motivation to attack fedra. And she wasted it all.
@@michaell4292 The bitch who executes prisoners and wants to kill kids just because? No we won't.
Episode 1- Made me cry
Episode 2- Made me cry
Episode 3- Made me ball like a baby!
Episode 4- We got a reprieve for a week
Episode 5- Decides to RIP OUR FRIGGIN HEARTS OUT!
Never trusting a side character again.
They may be good, but they are also never going to make two episodes.
Episode 5 came to collect on the debt that we had to pay for episode 4 😂
@@Ren_Davis0531 oof too soon my dude lol
We’re at the halfway point now.
lmaoo im saying man🤧
The behind the scenes on this one was pretty good - the whole crew started learning to sign to tell Sam's actor how good he was. Just wholesome as could be. Great react!
Sesskasays: “Last episode was a bit of a break. Not that it didn’t have heavy themes, but I felt like I wasn’t in a puddle of my own tears at the end.”
Episode 5: “Don’t worry. I’ll fix that for you 😏 “
Literally 😂😂😂
Yeah ep5 was like hold my gun. Ep6 freaking hurt me too but in a difgerent way.
FUN FACT:
at 15:10 the guy that says: run, find cover, don’t look back is Jeffrey Pierce. The mocap / voice actor of Tommy, Joel’s brother in the game on PlayStation!
You're a week late on this one unfortunately, comments section last week was flooded with it lol
@@markmckeown87 your right there Mark lol… Still, better late than never I say!
This is why I like watching her videos, she not afraid to cry and just lets it all out so we’re both crying together😢
15:19 that scream was amazing and funny as hell.
Ellie and Joel switch sides at the end. That was the Tess moment from episode 2. Ellie runs ahead while Joel is still waiting at the grave. Tess gave Joel a mission he wanted to fulfill as her last wish.
The relationship that Joel had with Tess was similar to Ellie and Sam. Ellie promised (unspoken) Sam the cure here and couldn't keep this promise. She now wants to make sure that this never happens again. As Tess said at the time "save who you can save".
Ellie really has a mission now. Indirectly get through her feelings of guilt. She wants her blood to work. Before that, she was someone who had no control over anything. Others have determined where she grows up and where she has to go now. Now that has changed. Now conviction plays a role and she takes control. She wants to save the world so that there are no more Sam's. And while Joel gradually finds his humanity again and lets people into his life again, Ellie loses a little more of herself and she takes the lead here in the end.
In addition, Ellie and Joel have reached a new level of connection with each other. Wordless understanding. Both wanted to save the brothers during the attack. That wasn't Joel's "don't do it Ellie" look. That was the look "I'll give you fire protection Ellie". And Ellie has absolute confidence in Joel.
There was also a little joke about the game. The moment when the sniper shot and Henry and Sam senselessly ran out of cover, only to return immediately. This is how Ellie behaved very often in the game. She was AI-controlled and she liked to do it. She ran out of cover, right in front of the enemy and then back again. 😁
lmao OH wow! that's so funny! bc that definitely is the way the A.I. reacts and responds, Sam's run was Very animated lol it stood out to me and I couldn't tell why until you. ty.
This series has been such a heartbreaker, but as a big fan of the game I love how faithfully everything's been done. Can't wait to see your reaction to the next 4 episodes!
Ikr, I’m not prepared for the finale, not really ready for the hospital scene 😢❤
@@Teddy-rh8vl “cmon baby girl. I’m getting you out of here.” I’m not ready either. 💔
I never played the game and I like the story so far. Made me cry. What do u mean 4 episodes? Would there be another season? Or is this a limited season only thanks!😅
@@arminarlert1953 all you need to know is that some crazy shit is gonna happen. some true fuckery.
if only the Witcher show runners respected the source material, either with the games, or the books, or even a mix between the two...
Non player's reaction, it's worth like gold
34:41 Honestly while getting your head ripped off is more brutal its also probably faster death
1. I think this is fundamentally why the story is as good as it is. No matter how much we love how a character is written & fleshed out they are at risk with every step they take so we savor every sec we have with them. No one is safe. Even someone who is seen as a main character like Tess or Sarah (Joel's daughter). That rule of plot armor doesn't really exist in this world.
2. Kathleen's obsession to find Henry was the ruin of Kansas City. Reminds me of another story about a Captain Ahab. "Always remember folks, no matter how broken your heart is NEVER go full obsessive!"
right that's why i think that even tho Kathleen was the one best suited to lead the KC resistance against Fedra, she needed her brother to temper her baser instincts of taking revenge against collaborators. Her intense desire for vengeance blinded her to the possibility that her brother's last wish of forgiveness might've been not only for her benefit but for the good of all the survivors who would look to her for leadership after his death. I believe he knew that was the only way they'd be able to heal and make lives for themselves after all they endured. not to mention the fact that Fedra's defeat meant Kathleen controlled the entire city above ground which had been 100% cleared of infected yet instead of finishing off the underground horde and securing KC's perimeter, Capn Ahab chose to chase her whale.
I don’t know if you’ve seen Ahsoka, but there’s a good quote related to that in the penultimate episode. One of the characters is parting ways from his very ambitious and intense apprentice and he tells her impatience for victory will guarantee defeat.
Knowing what was coming, it still wasn't easy, just think Henrys first real kill was his brother
Why? Why did you have to make me realize that Henry's first time killing, was Sam? Jerk!! LOL...
@@marvel-ousre-grind8724 and his second and last time was himself 🤷♂️
Yo wake up, new emotional trauma just dropped
When you know something is coming and it still crushes you.
Ellie's impressions of Joel always crack me up
The people Joel meets on this journey are life lessons. Henry teaches him that good people do bad things to protect loved ones. This is a lesson he carries for some time.
Making Sam deaf in the show had such a more impact than the game. I love your reactions. When you cry, we all cry. You are beautiful.
Kathleen going on rather unempathetically about how children die, and Henry should've just let Sam die, only to get taken out by a child clicker was rather poetic.
I wish we had clickers like that in the game though. The way it moved was so horrifying and impressive.
Spent the lead up to this episode excited to see the Boomer only for it to be overshadowed as soon as that creepy thing crawled through the van window.
Bloater*
@@ClintBandito right, Boomers are Left 4 Dead I think
The creators pointed out that Kathleen is not necessarily wrong, kids do die all the time, and that Joel was even okay with driving away from a family with kids that needed help because he’s protecting his own and how that kid probably died. So in many ways Kathleen’s logic (because she’s probably seen kids die under FEDRA rule) is not wrong, because if other kids aren’t so special and immune from violence in this world, why would Sam be any different or more special
@@CaptainPikeachu objectively she is right, but also, objectively what made Michael more special than Sam?
Kathleen uses objective truth to justify revenge-driven war crimes. It was personal no matter how she wanted to spin it.
Michael was a well-loved revolutionary who's death did more for his cause than his life. Kathleen used his death to destroy and then became arguably worse than the previous oppressors, her blinkered motivation resulting in the fall of the entirety of Kansas City.
Neither Sam or Michael were more valuable than the other. They were just valued more by those who loved them
I literally cried after the ending scene happened. It was so realistic and sudden I had to process it myself. This is a tough show!!!
the scene was great when you consider the fact Henry still thought of himself as a bad person yet in that moment while instinctively tryna protect Sam from Joel, he over-rode that instinct to save Ellie, someone he'd just met which caused him to kill the person he loved most in the world before he fully comprehended what he'd done. So many conflicting emotions/motivations in his performance. the look of shock, giving way to grief then despair written all over his face, all occurring simultaneously within seconds - if Lamar don't at least get the nomination for an Emmy, it's rigged
"This is FUCKERY. Pure FUCKERY" 😆an apt description indeed
This was a great episode, and wonderful reaction again! Go with decapitation over disembowelment, as a general rule. Anyway, both Kathleen and Henry died at the end because of their love for their brother, both because they went to their extreme form of love, vengeful love and self-sacrificing love respectfully.
Ellie's belief that she could cure Sam made it so much more painful. I think she genuinely believed that it would work. She is a child, she has been told over and over that she is a cure, she has no understanding about how a cure would be made so it makes sense that she thinks it could be relatively simple... Oh, so sad. She apologized at the grave.
When Tess died, Ellie hung around to grieve, while Joel shoved his emotions down grimly and pressed on. This time it was Joel who lingered and Ellie who left. He is becoming more emotional, and she is becoming colder/more traumatized. I also think she left so fast because the faster they leave, the sooner there will be a cure. The sooner that will never happen again (in a child's mind).
Everyone we know that Ellie has lost that she had a relationship with, she lost due to the infection. She has been told that she is the cure, that she basically exists to fight the infection. She had her first battle, and she lost. That is what is going through her head, I think.
Sam also faced the window. Two things: He knew he wouldn't see Ellie, which means he wouldn't attack her. He was protecting her. As he felt himself turn, he knew he wouldn't hear her. If he couldn't see her, he wouldn't know she was there and thus couldn't attack her. Also, it has been confirmed over the years of the game that runners DO have the person in their head. So Sam was in there when he attacked Ellie. Something to think of though -> If Ellie never touched him, if no one ever touched him or got in his vision, he would be sitting there forever watching the sunset. He's deaf, so he wouldn't hear anything. Once he hit the clicker phase, and he could no longer see, then he would be sitting there in darkness and silence forever.
If you play the video game, when you get to the sewers area, get every note from Ish. They give a nod to him which I appreciate (the part of the tunnels with the kid's room and the picture on the wall that says, "Our protectors -> Daddy and Ish." It's a fascinating and heartwarming/heartbreaking story)
Fun Facts: Joel collects the comic books in the game for Ellie. Cordyceps is one of the fungi that is composed of chitin; crustaceans and a lot of arthropods also have a lot of chitin in their exoskeleton. As the infected get worse and worse (covered in more and more of the fungus), you can kind of think of it as having more and more armor/exoskeleton.
A sentence that stuck out to me was "it ends how it started" by Kathleen. That pretty much sums this episode up. The world is how it is because of the infected and it is how its going to end. The end of the resistance, the end of sam&henry, the end of the kansas chapter of joel&ellies adventure.
I also think Kathleen's story was a cautionary tale for how Joel nearly ended up after Sarah's death. They're both examples of what can happen after a person loses too much of themselves to that world and the twisted justifications they fool themselves into believing will allow them to understand existence post-apocalypse. at that point, living becomes all about survival, life becomes cheap and everyone becomes expendable. even the lives of children, normally seen as that which must be protected at all costs as they represent hope for the future become simply another burden in a doomed reality. Kathleen's words "it ends how it started" i think signaled her choice to willingly give up her humanity to the notion that's just how the world is, instead of holding onto hope for a brighter tomorrow like her brother wanted. Ironic that ignoring his last words of forgiveness to hunt Sam and Henry lead Kathleen and the KC survivors to be massacred, everything he fought and died for which effectively killed him twice - it ends how it started.
"Is one child worth everything?" she asks .... (spoiler)
The irony of the "kid clicker" getting her.
I’m crying all over again. Ellie is so sweet.
I'm so glad you chose to react to this show! This is hands down the best video game adaptation of all time!
I really enjoy your reactions. The Bloater kill of Perry is what happens in game when Joel gets caught by a Bloater.
I have also found it ironically funny that during the 1st 4 reaction videos for a programme based on a exclusive Sony game, there is a x-box controller next to you.
Nice call back (forward?) to the smouldering pile of bones, last episode…
The thing that surprised me the most, in this episode, was that Joel didn't realise the sniper was a great shot, but was keeping them pinned.
I couldn't stop crying after watching this episode, 1 hour ago.
This show is so tragic but amazing. So so good
A core message of the second game is that bloodlust for revenge will destroy you, and nothing good will come of it. They definitely incorporated that here with Kathleen basically getting the whole town killed for her personal revenge. All their fighters got overwhelmed, and now the infected are free to get to whatever survivors there are in the city.
Dude, why would you speak about the second game, while she is watching season 1 without spoilers
Kathleen presents an interesting contrast. She's lost someone so good and pure, and she clearly lost hope in humanity as a whole and shifted to a more practical mindset. One twisted by vengeance, absolutely, but she's operating with that ruthless calculus in mind...kids die. They can't save everyone. Her brother represented all the good in humanity, in her eyes, and Henry condemned him (and humanity, in her eyes) to death for a single kid to get medicine that would probably help get him better for now, but maybe not forever. She references this in the showdown, going at henry for his willingness to condemn the world for one person.
And Henry's more or less on the level with that. He knows he did a horrible thing and is struggling with that. Above all else, he values his brother, his family, at any cost. He IS willing to sacrifice the world if it means Sam lives on, so when Sam turned, and he shot Sam...well, he didn't really see a point in living. There wasn't anything left for him.
And that gives Joel something to consider here. Watching the army kill his daughter, his source of goodness and hope in the world, left him with a very practical mindset. He was able to see the corpse of a dead child and not really think anything of it when he dropped him in the fire. He was ready to shoot Ellie when they went looking for Robert. Tess is the only reason Ellie's alive right now. The father in him likely empathized with Kathleen. I'm sure if Tommy hadn't killed that man who killed Sarah, he would have tracked him down to kill him. But he also understood Henry going to any lengths to protect Sam, because he knows he would have done anything to protect Sarah when she was alive.
Luv your detailed response to this tough show. It left me numb and later pained.
the actor that plays the big guy is Adam Basil. He was the stunt coordinator for many of the bigger boys on Game of Thrones, and was the stunt double for the Hound (with platform shoes, because 6'6" wasnt tall enough) The infected bloater suit itself, weighed just under 80lbs.
Excellent acting by Bella in the scene where Henry shoots himself. Her whimpers instinctively gave me a fatherly urge to hug her
The swarm scene is incredible good and creepy af
The "I'm sorry" at the end got me so hard. I cried 4 of 5 episodes and I love this show
I need to say I laughed with you screaming with the big guy 🤣🤣🤣
I wouldn't have found out they released the episode early without your video
I came to see people cry and I wasn’t disappointed! I remember the end scene with Sam and Henry when I played the game when it came out back in the day.
Love watching sesskasays reactions to great tv shows
I just came here for the screams. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You're awesome!
Having played the game, when you said "I love everything!" about Henry and Sam joining up with Joel and Ellie.. my heart sunk... this episode was incredible.. The flood of infected, and we see the "Bloater" for the first time.
18:50 that was my same reaction back in 2013...i had to put the controller down for days.
Sesskasays: “Shut up! I’m not going to cry!
Episode 5: “Let’s just see about that…”
This is an EXCELLENT series.
it's even more crushing when you realize the infection takes your eyesight and as he was deaf... he would of sat, staring into nothing forever while his brain just withers away.
The eyesight doesn’t go immediately. It’s only when the fungus grows out of your head that you start to lose vision.
Something that they go into far more in game that was one of my personal favourite elements, is the underground community founded by Ish. You can find a series of notes that detail how it started and expanded, how endearing and good a lot of these people were and the tragedy of how things fell apart. There is a misable room which everyone who knows will know what I'm talking about, but I won't ruin anyone's day with if it for those who don't cause its heartbreaking. One of my real favourite moments though is when the group in speculating on what happened and its actually Joel to say "god knows they didn't deserve it", I dunno that just always hit me.
Spot on post episode commentary. I wish a few more of my gaming brethren had your insight. The show is a statement on love and sacrifice.
Really enjoying this series cannot believe we have reached over the halfway point 😀
Love seeing your reactions!
But regarding the two deaths… Perry got to go thinking he was saving Kathleen (and it was the quicker version), yet Kathleen got to go hesitating over the guy she tore the world apart to find… and knowing she failed 😄
Person 1: Don't get attached
Person 2: I wasn't
Person 1: I wasn't talking to you
We both got the heartbreak on that scenes.. HBO TLOU really going to rip our hearts out.. If you watch TROY BAKER interview.. He said and i qoute; " in this show you will cry a lot." See you in the next.. 😊
@Sesskasays,
23:09 The theme is family, and what one is willing to do for their family.
Joel froze the last time he had a chance to safe Sarah--he believed the military would protect them, and so he dropped his guard.
Tommy shot a soldier dead to save what he could of his family.
Tess sacrificed herself to save the only family she had left, Joel and even Ellie.
After living a full and satisfying life with the love of his life, Bill checked out with Frank, but not before leaving Joel an important reminder about family.
Kathleen and Henry are the extremes of what a person does for family, and these extremes brought a cruel and cold end to both their stories. Sam was Henry's purpose in the same way Frank was Bill's, and once Sam was gone Henry felt lost and he had to go ='( Sam's death was so much worse in this version of the story because Sam told Ellie that he was bit and they had time to save him! Thanks to the poster on the wall of hospital in the Boston QZ we have a timetable for complete Cordyceps infection:
-bites to the neck, head and face: 5 to 15 minutes
-bites to the torso, shoulder, arm and hand: 2 to 8 hours
-bites to the leg and foot: 12 to 24 hours
The poster next to that one told us the symptoms to look out for as well:
-slurred speech
-coughing
-muscle spasms
-mood change
Sam couldn't speak, but I think is conduct with Ellie shows that he was still very much him when he showed her that he was bit. She and Sam should have told an adult in the room! The first episode showed us at least three amputees, so we know amputation works! Sam might have still died given that the dirty hotel room they were in and the lack of proper tools and medication, but that's a problem they could have dealt with afterwards, but more importantly, the little bit of extra time likely could have saved at least Henry's life. Henry died believing he failed Sam ='(
I think they made this change to further develop Ellie's story. She was feeling pretty invisible and a bit careless--she's a child, I get it, but in this world, she can't afford to be one. She needs to be alert and this horrible lesson is going to make her do that ='(
We are at the halfway point, and this story was a reminder that people who've made it this far, are doing the same thing everywhere, ENDURING and SURVIVING, and that's not living. Ellie asked Joel a little while ago something like, if you've given up on the world, what's the point of going on. It's a good question, as hope and living in the moment is living. Bill and Frank were proof that you can have a life in this new world, a fulfilling life. Will Joel get to where Bill and Frank were? Will Ellie learn from the mistakes of he past? The next half of this story is going to be wild, and I cannot wait!
Been waiting all day for this
This group of hunter, like most others in this world are brutal. We gotta rememver that Joel was one of them before and he is not in a "its in the past" state yet. Its still very much a part of him and it shows when he can kill with ease. Gotta remember he is no hero. Just our protagonist haha
Yeah, Joel is indeed not a hero. Sad that not so much people in tlou community understand it
@@nobody5403 exactly!! As much as i love him, he wasnt wrong when he said hes a shitty person haha
I'm not the kind of person that comments, never have before, but I stumbled onto your channel and I've been watching your reactions to this series. I had to let you know how I feel and what I think. WOW, your amazing. This is one hell of a series, it brings out so many emotions, and your in for one hell of a ride. Love the energy and emotions you show, as well as how your so engrossed at times you stare in wide eyed amazement, it's like it brings out the kid in you, and it's beautiful watch. It's a pleasure, and so refreshing to see such an appealing and lovely, classy woman such as yourself, with those beautiful, big pretty eyes, kick back, watching a show, just being yourself, and having fun while doing it. I am truly impressed mi amour, as well as a new subscriber, fan and admirer. Look forward to more reactions, and to getting thru this "BEAST" of a series with you.
I watched a lot of reactions from ep 5 and your reaction was the best
What was really interesting to me was the fact that Kathleen couldn't see passed the beam in her eye while trying to kill Henry for the mote in his. She made this big speech about how Sam wasn't the center of the world and Henry made the wrong choice by sacrificing her brother to save his. But she's essentially doing the same thing. To avenge her brother (who is dead by the way! I mean at least Sam was still alive at that point!) she essentially sacrificed Kansas City by ignoring the serious signs of the infected rising up. Damn shame.
im not into games but the show is so good
I love games, honestly it's reached a point where games are just like any media, I saw the same thing happen with anime, when I was a kid cartoons were for kids and that was that, but as animation has moved along and anime from the east came over her more it just became another way to tell a compelling story and things like Monster or Ghost in the Shell came about, some of the greatest works of fiction ever created...games have hit a point where they're no different, they can tell a compelling, powerful story but you just happen to be able to interact with it...kind of a great time to be around lol
You will unfortunately remember all of Kathleen’s words when the show is over.
I didn't think any episode of this show would get me emotional. Then comes episode 5.
Even though Sam's death was the biggest reason why Henry offed himself, I feel like the second was everything he did for Sam, all the people that died because of his actions. The Resistance Leader, the doctor, all the people that died from the swarm. He justified his actions because he wanted to keep his brother alive. Suddenly, all the "evil" things he did, as he described, was for nothing. Heartbreaking
I love the hypocrisy of Kathleen saying Sam was supposed to die and the world doesn't revolve around him while she's so deadset on getting revenge for her dead brother as if it's gonna bring him back to life.
@@kmjkmjkmj Well to split hairs Henry didn't kill Michael, Fedra did. Of course you can say Henry knew what'd happen by giving him up but still, he didn't directly kill him.
The Bloater at 15:00
As a non gamer to the franchise it scared me
It's very interesting if you look at it from Melanie's perspective. Her brother and her were leading a good cause to free people. Then her brother gets captured and killed because of someone who thinks about one person rather than all of the survivors. I would also ruthlessly go after Henry. I think she was a very relatable "villian". I wish we could see more of that camps struggle to overtake fedra.
I can understand her vendetta. The real problem is she then herself prioritized revenge on one largely harmless person over the well being of her followers. She ignored all other problems, including the approaching infected, and ended up getting everyone she freed killed.
15:21 "Honey, the neighbor is watching one of her shows again"
4:08 LIES!!!
Kidding. Tears are unavoidable for this show.. I always watch a show or movie before I watch any reactions. I have to admit that I was feeling a bit bad watching your amazing reaction to this knowing what was coming for you. In retrospect, Bill had the "best" death on the show thus far. He went out in a peaceful way of his own accord, hand in hand with the love of his life. Tess' death may have been the most heroic, but there was much fear and pain involved (you could hear her screams after the capital building was ignited).
ROM AUGUSTINE here sesskasays I've enjoyed your channel for a time threw the years since early 1999 till whenever ok always remember the days that my dad watched with me since he passed away November 30 2022 I find myself watching alone 4 myself and still will be trying to get over my dad's passing away but I'm sure you understand what I'm going through as well but Loved your reaction to the episode U watched eh
Such a good episode. That ending was heartbreaking but that's how this story goes.
I dare people who put hates on Bella as Ellie in this series, is going to enjoy their spits abundantly.
Sesska this episode got me oh my.
Fun Fact: Perry is played by the game’s voice actor of Tommy!
Great reaction 👍A fantastic episode , With great action at the end and Very sad ,We All cried, Can't wait for the next episode 🎥😀👍
That child clicker was so creepy!
Yeah they seem unpredictable and terrifying
Apparently they had concept art of child clickers in the game, too. Not sure why they didn't go through with it. Usually it's budgetary concerns.
Feel like the series version fucked me up more than the games
I knew it was coming, I was sure I wasnt going to cry like in the game.
But this time it was Ellie's little cry/gasp right when it happened that got me, amazing acting.
I wasnt as connected to this Ellie as in the game but I think this episode fixed that
Every episode 😭 I can’t help myself 💔
They always introduce two new characters, and make us fall in love with them just so they can kill them both at the end of the episode. It's a pattern...
just patiently waiting for your reaction to episode 6!! not to spoil anything but it's gonna be a wildddd emotional ride :)
I'm guessing sesskasays u didn't play the games? (I've started the first one but I haven't finished it yet) but the part with Sam and Henry at the end does happen just like that in the games
Ellie trying to inoculate Sam was devastating
Kathleen said "Sometimes kids die"
And ended up getting beautifully slaughtered by an infected one.
Bad guy character did bad guy things and got hers in the end. All her followers died like the monsters they were. See, it doesn't matter what cards life dealt you, fair or unfair. You become a beast, you get taken out like a beast.
Henry and Sam's ending is just as sad here as it was in the game. Quite similar too, infact.
Lol, saying you felt like it was about to get messy is an understatement. The theme you talk about with love and revenge are something that the game hits on a lot later but they brought it in early here but this a theme that the games are about and will continue
This episode ... I was stunned silent and I burst into tears after Henry shot himself I was just ... the way it was done ....
You made me cry 😢
Yeah, Jess, I'm with you on the fourth episode felt like a bit of a break, tears-wise. In fact, a thought I had following the fourth episode was, “You know, though this didn’t reach the height of excellence of the Bill and Frank episode, this was nice, particularly the reprieve from the crying. Hopefully, that continues for a while; I’m sure Jess would appreciate that.” Thus, my immediate thought following this episode was, “Well, so much for that idea. That didn’t last long at all, now did it?”
Joel’s visible irritation at the happiness of children 😅😂😂😂
I'd watch you react to one of those Rain sounds videos !! Lol.
You make me smile so freakin hard !!!💙💙💙🏆
There are no good guys or bad guys. Everyone is just trying to survive.
I was hoping they would change or at least make Henry and Sam ending happier/lighter. But no, still fkd me up like before.
Game Spoiler:
Isn't losing Tess,Henry, Sam and Riley needed for the "it can't be for nothing" speech later
It's a bit better, sam didn't turn by himself like in the game.
Episode 5: So you thought I was finished huh?
Here's the next episode of Seska crying
13:25 Bookmarking this.
I feel what Kathleen said here was, at the very least, food for thought for everyone who heard it, and I wonder what they think about it and how it's going to affect (or how it affected) what they'll do going forward.
To quote: "[You don't understand!] But I do. I know why you did what you did. But did you ever stop to think that maybe he was supposed to die? ... (Kids die all the time.) ... You think the whole world revolves around him? That he's worth everything? This is what happens when you fuck with fate."
TLDR: actions can have consequences so far reaching or sometimes out of left field, it's basically impossible to predict anything.
(So can you really blame someone who was just trying to do what they thought was right at the time?)
We don't know what exactly happened in the Kansas QZ. Yes, definitely, there is no excuse for raping, which is one of the things Henry said the Kansas FEDRA did. I wonder though about the murder he mentions... Were they actually just murdering people with no reason? Or was this similar (albeit probably more brutal) to what was happening in the Boston QZ where hanging is the punishment for simply exiting or entering the QZ without permission.
Not saying that there were no murders without reason, or all 'murders' must have had a reason in terms of safety for the greater number of people but... if you kind of think about it from a certain perspective, Kansas QZ seems to have effectively driven the infected underground so much so that there's barely any evidence of them on the ground, even outside the QZ walls, unlike in the areas surrounding Boston, for example, where buildings are just covered with fungi, cooked and fresh.
Thing is: they survived 20 years apparently relatively free of the infected, and that's probably because of measures FEDRA was imposing.
Still, of course, there was a resistance movement. But that resistance, up until 10 days ago, was led by Kathleen's brother who was the forgiving type. So I imagine, yes, he takes action against the murder and especially the rape, perhaps, but he draws the line somewhere, and he takes care not to cross that line.
Somehow, I imagined them as some sort of yin and yang? Kathleen and Michael. And they at least had some balance between them when Michael was alive. But without Michael, Kathleen, who says she was never good, had no one to hold her back from crossing the line.
And Henry was the cause of the loss of Michael.
Because he wanted to save his brother, he ratted out Michael and FEDRA killed him which pushed Kathleen to cross the line and lead an actual uprising that effectively overthrew FEDRA... and further, led her to hunt him down to this housing area... where a whole horde was able to come back up above ground and (probably) kill the whole contingent of resistance fighters... and then probably run to the old QZ with its wide open gates and kill or infect all the rest of the citizens there who has no one left to protect them.
I mean... I wonder if Henry at the very least thought of all of that that night before going to sleep. But that maybe he was thinking, yeah, you could call me a bad guy because I, in a way, doomed the whole QZ population. But Sam's ok, right? So it's ok. I can live with it.
And then waking up the next day to Sam attacking Ellie...
Is this what happens when you fuck with fate?
Could he have thought in the seconds just before putting the gun to his head, that it all led to nothing, that it was all his fault - his brother, the QZ - that he was just a bad guy, period?
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Was Marlene fucking with fate when she didn't shoot Ellie (or stopped others from killing her, whichever)?
She didn't kill Ellie when she was clearly bit, she could have turned and killed or infected them all... but she didn't. Instead, she believes in this delusion that Ellie is the key to a vaccine or whatever. Pipe dreams. But then she gets herself hurt and unable to get Ellie out of Boston herself and dumps her on Tess and Joel. And Tess gets bit in the process...
Well, Joel is likely a bit past this line of thinking now because he's starting to warm up to and be protective of Ellie, but surely that was where his mind was shortly after they had to leave Tess. And pretty sure he still thinks all the vaccine/cure stuff are just pipe dreams.
But I wonder what he thinks now of Kathleen's words? Was Ellie supposed to die? Is she worth everything?
(Blame Marlene, too, for giving Joel a second daughter he didn't want. Just kidding, just kidding. 🤪 )
What does Ellie think of Kathleen's words? She seemed so hopeful that her blood would help Sam, it must have destroyed her that it didn't.
Does she now still believe that her blood holds the key but that she really just needs to get to the Firefly doctors first? Does she think it's a sure thing that a cure can and will be had if she just gets there? And at what cost?
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15:00 Christ almighty, you'd probably need something like a damn mini-gun to take that thing down!!
Oh I have faith in you… you won’t be crying in this episode 😢😂
Well, you did better than I thought, but I was wrong 😂
Oh my. I'm realizing in the same week you saw Bobby's death and the Henry and sam episode. Oh man I'm sorry 🥺🥺
It's interesting I'm seeing the reactions to this episode tend to have the most views, because everyone wants to see how people react to Henry and Sam's deaths.
Henry is not a bad guy because family comes first and I would do the same thing Henry done for family.
I would die 4 my Brother.
...and also kill.
Micah’s daddy was annihilated by a bloater
Another great episode!
The Last of Us - Episode 5 - "Fuckery"
Poor, Perry. You can't afford to lose your head when faced with a bloater