It doesn’t get much better than this. The current 911 has gotten crazy expensive, but for the lucky few who can afford it, this is driving bliss perfected. We’d gladly take a Miami Blue Targa 4 GTS and keep it forever. What does your dream 911 look like?
@@shaheenevans I have only one slight minus with 992 GT3 and that is the size, it is quite big so on small alpine B roads you do not feel as small and when tractor or larger car in the opposite direction you have to really be more careful and sometimes you feel it is not a nimblr sports car anymore because it is a bigger supercar size. Performance is unreal of course that is not a problem.
Nice video, the manual does have Launch Control as well. You need to be in Sport Plus mode, clutch pedal fully in, select first gear, mash the throttle and it holds revs at 5k rpm and then you drop the clutch. Then you will achieve the 3.9 secs I'm sure!
DONT DUMP the clutch. I have owned my 2000 911 6-speed for 19 Years and Porsche states 0-60 in 4.9 and I don't think I have ever gotten less then 4.3, with a best of 3.7 on Michelin Pilot Cup 2 tires
Then again, Porsche has always underestimated their numbers. Everything from acceleration to quarter mile to charging times are underestimated and over delivered. There is no substitute.
I'm glad Porsche is bringing the manuals around for one last run. This generation should be good for another 5 years, so there is time. At $150k for a Carrera 4 GTS Manual, I'll have to get to this later on. It's twice the price of a Louts Emira, which I have my eye on. Love that this is available in manual AWD. That is a special breed I'd collect. The end of an era is upon us.....
Be honest, every other person who test drove the targa complained about the buffeting noise above 45 mph and you guys were flying and seemed like the noise was actually bearable and i have been reviewing targa's for years.
It's because the majority of US "car reviewers" tend to be fucking annoying cry babies. Most of these people are just repeating the fucking nonsense they have heard from other idiot "car reviewer" cry babies about "wind buffeting" in the 992 and 991 generation of Porsche 911 Targa models. Honestly, what do these fucking clowns expect from a "semi convertible" vehicle at higher speeds, when the roof is open??? If these idiots want to talk in complete silence to each other at higher speed, well just close the roof, you idiots!!! The open Targa isn't meant for having completely silence at speeds above 80 mph, because it's still a sports car but not a fucking heavy luxury four seater convertible, which has very thick and heavy sealings around the roof, for bringing the noise inside the car to a very low level. By the way: how fast are you allowed to driving on US roads?? 70 or 80 mph in the USA really is fucking slow compared to Germany, where you're allowed driving much faster. And here in Germany really nobody complains about the "buffeting" in a 911 Targa at these higher speeds, because when the Targa roof is open all these louder noises are totally NORMAL... You can't cheat physics, you idiots! The Targa roof is developed by Porsche for still having very low noise level inside the car at German "Landstraßentempo" (which is the maximum speed on German b-roads, not Autobahn) of 100 kmh, which is 62 mph, when the roof is open. That's approximately the speed, you are used in the USA on most of your roads. The Targa roof mechanism for itself is almost PERFECT, just like all the seals around Porsche 911 Cabriolet- and Targa roofs, which are certainly quite top notch in the car industry. Of course there's some "wind buffeting" at a certain speed due to the form of the opening space above the heads of driver and passenger, but it can be reduced very easily by closing the side windows and using the little wind spoiler on the upper edge of the windscreen. How about that??? What's the point from all these fucking annoying USA-cry babies??? I don't get it!
You’re dumping the clutch too fast, you have to get right at that edge of engagement. Then feather it out, with the gas peddle down the whole time. You even have to flat foot shift, keep the gas peddle down.
2:22 there’s a secret way to open the frunk without accessing a switch in the cabin, and it isn’t the key fob. It blew my mind when I saw someone do it in another video recently. Not sure if it’s documented in the owner’s manual.
The videography as you walk by the 911 is tops. The 911 has been a dream car from my HS days in the early 80's, but the lines of the car have evolved perfectly.
Hmmm….nice to see how a car this expensive has a gearshift as nice as a Honda/Mazda. Also the outrageous pricing makes it easier for Chevy dealers to continue the ADM on the Vette…and I’m a PCA member for over 20 years. That said this car can only be used on a track in order to appreciate its enormous capabilities; as you can see the real world is filled with everyday commuter cars (nothing wrong with that) limiting the fun. Throw in deteriorating infrastructures like here in NY it’s hard to justify buying this weapon for solely street driving.
Iconic sports car with great handling. I'm only disappointed by it's rather quiet or soft ish sound compared to let's say the F-Type SVR which i think has a lot more character and soul.
They are nice cars--if my opinion as a turbo owner means anything at all. Definitely great cars. However, IMO there are a lot of nice/special cars. The C8, I think, is a knock out. Miatas... No more machine for smiles per dollar. Viper, the most awesome and special car too me.
Great review, thanks…however that’s not the way to close the ‘frunk’. Need to drop it all the way down until it touches and then push into place. Just a tip ;)
You don't just dump the clutch you'll bogged the engine off the power band. Need to finesse the clutch and gas keeping the engine on the power band while trying to minimize wheel spin
@@XX-166 I've looked in my market several times. Only one I found was a rather base 911 @ 800 a day for 200 miles per day. I wouldn't even drive it hard.
The controversy over the front end was not about the hood cut lines. It was about the overabundance of black plastic in the front fascia... Which, looks much better in this GTS.
The carbon buckets are NOT “very, very uncomfortable for longer drives”. Many YT reviewers say this with (I’m convinced) never having done long drives in these seats. I own a 718 GT4 with the buckets, which I daily and do tons of long highway drives in, and the seats have never once proven to be uncomfortable. It’s hard to imagine that they’d be comfortable, given how thin and rigid they are, but it’s true.
100% agreed. I had a 981 GT4 with the buckets and daily drove my car for almost 2 years. Once you’re in them they’re comfortable, the only compromise is getting in and out of the car but for long drives they’re fine. On my 992 GTS i optioned the standard sport plus seats for convenience, not because the buckets are uncomfortable.
@@CarEnthused it’s ironic, because I’m looking at a 992 GTS with the lightweight package and sport seats as my next car. Lol. Idk, I’m ‘on the list’ for both a GT4 rs and a gt3 touring, but who knows whether either of those will materialize or whether I’ll agree to pay the markup.
@@theanthonyv I went sports seats and no lightweight package. I’d love it in theory but I’ve got a little one and sharing road trips and memories with my family is huge… until I can get a GT3 allocation that is 😂
Wouldn't you rather piece-meal and pay for what you want then buy some prepackaged grouping of suff desired along with a bunch of other crap forced on ya?
Startup chimes sounds like a piano like the song Slow Jamz by Rapper twista ft Kanye west and Jamie foxx and the red paint reminds me of the 1990s Porsche 911 that Selena Quintanilla drove
That was great! We got to see so many Porches in the background. Testing both the PDK and manual was perfect and I really enjoyed the whole thing. I laughed, I cried. Sofyan great shirt and Rob rockin his glasses. Keep em coming!
PDK doesn’t take away any car control at all and not just in Porsche, but any dual clutch. I’ve been racing since 1981 and while I love my manuals, it’s a fact that we all turn much faster lap times with dual clutches.
you need to disconnect completely the traction control. It has a mechanical LSD and with 305 tires with an engine on top of them you need to be aggressive.
In this case it’s more like “Poorsche” to remind most people how “poor” they are because they can’t afford cars like these. These prices are getting insane. A non- Turbo model 911 approaching 200k? Even the M3 and M4 can be spec’d out to over 100k now before optioning any sort of Individual customization.
Hey Sofyan, have you ever been pulled over or gotten a ticket from cops seeing your videos? I always wondered if local cops learned who you guys are and keep tabs for possible stops.
When he's in his local PA area I'm sure he has to watch out lot more, this "random" spot in GA outside of Atlanta maybe not, he doesn't test there often.
Great minds think alike! The 911 target has always been my favorite sports car since I was a kid. I appreciate you sharing this experience it looks like you guys had major fun!
Thanks for the very good video. Can you tell and describe the sound difference compared to the Carrera 992 S. For the look I prefer the Carrera S. Should I go for the S or GTS?
Just lighting issues. Notice he usually films outside. Unlike the recent Toyota Tundra press event, where it was setup for filming and had tons of lighting, it’s not very well lit in the showroom here. He should have had them take the vehicles outside.
How is the soundinsolation with the roof up on the targa on the Interstate roads? On the 991 targa they complained of the windnoise with the roof down that it was unpleasant ever at 45 mph and more but now you say that 80 is the borderline of unconfortable windnoise...Substantial inprovement Despite it is a subjective thing. What is your opinion Sofyan?
Well, when my clutch plate finally wore down at 112k miles it got stuck in 3rd gear and yet the car could get rolling and get up to 120-125 in 3rd gear, so just imagine have 3, 4 or 5 more gears.
It doesn’t get much better than this. The current 911 has gotten crazy expensive, but for the lucky few who can afford it, this is driving bliss perfected. We’d gladly take a Miami Blue Targa 4 GTS and keep it forever. What does your dream 911 look like?
Dream Porsche got GT in name and NA engine. 170-190k for a 3.0 twinturbo is too much... I will stick with Lotus GT430.
Mines would be either a Carrera 4S or the GTS with a sunroof in Miami blue or silver
I want one.
992 Manual gt3 touring
@@shaheenevans I have only one slight minus with 992 GT3 and that is the size, it is quite big so on small alpine B roads you do not feel as small and when tractor or larger car in the opposite direction you have to really be more careful and sometimes you feel it is not a nimblr sports car anymore because it is a bigger supercar size. Performance is unreal of course that is not a problem.
Sofyan and Rob's laughs says it all for the 911 Carrera GTS!! It is simply just amazing to drive!!
Nice video, the manual does have Launch Control as well. You need to be in Sport Plus mode, clutch pedal fully in, select first gear, mash the throttle and it holds revs at 5k rpm and then you drop the clutch. Then you will achieve the 3.9 secs I'm sure!
That’s what he did, he released the clutch too fast though
“If I can just REMOVE the Altima” 😂!! Love it👊🏽👊🏽
The seatbelt gave a true definition of “redline” reviews
love seeing Sofyan review a 911!
also, i absolutely feel the pain of being stuck behind a slow car on a curvy backroad…
DONT DUMP the clutch. I have owned my 2000 911 6-speed for 19 Years and Porsche states 0-60 in 4.9 and I don't think I have ever gotten less then 4.3, with a best of 3.7 on Michelin Pilot Cup 2 tires
Then again, Porsche has always underestimated their numbers. Everything from acceleration to quarter mile to charging times are underestimated and over delivered. There is no substitute.
I'm glad Porsche is bringing the manuals around for one last run. This generation should be good for another 5 years, so there is time. At $150k for a Carrera 4 GTS Manual, I'll have to get to this later on. It's twice the price of a Louts Emira, which I have my eye on. Love that this is available in manual AWD. That is a special breed I'd collect. The end of an era is upon us.....
Why not RWD
My camera guy Rob checking for cops.
Love how Porsche still offers manual transmission.
Honda too
ATTN: Let's have a monument of silence for that GTS's clutch. 🙏🏾
💯 lol
Manual transmission is always better than automatic.
I own a manual 992 S; wait until you get a manual into the SoCal canyons. That's when they come alive, not launching.
Sofyan Bey the cop magnet 😂😂
11:20 Camera guy is ready to take it...
Be honest, every other person who test drove the targa complained about the buffeting noise above 45 mph and you guys were flying and seemed like the noise was actually bearable and i have been reviewing targa's for years.
It's because the majority of US "car reviewers" tend to be fucking annoying cry babies. Most of these people are just repeating the fucking nonsense they have heard from other idiot "car reviewer" cry babies about "wind buffeting" in the 992 and 991 generation of Porsche 911 Targa models.
Honestly, what do these fucking clowns expect from a "semi convertible" vehicle at higher speeds, when the roof is open???
If these idiots want to talk in complete silence to each other at higher speed, well just close the roof, you idiots!!!
The open Targa isn't meant for having completely silence at speeds above 80 mph, because it's still a sports car but not a fucking heavy luxury four seater convertible, which has very thick and heavy sealings around the roof, for bringing the noise inside the car to a very low level.
By the way: how fast are you allowed to driving on US roads?? 70 or 80 mph in the USA really is fucking slow compared to Germany, where you're allowed driving much faster. And here in Germany really nobody complains about the "buffeting" in a 911 Targa at these higher speeds, because when the Targa roof is open all these louder noises are totally NORMAL... You can't cheat physics, you idiots! The Targa roof is developed by Porsche for still having very low noise level inside the car at German "Landstraßentempo" (which is the maximum speed on German b-roads, not Autobahn) of 100 kmh, which is 62 mph, when the roof is open. That's approximately the speed, you are used in the USA on most of your roads.
The Targa roof mechanism for itself is almost PERFECT, just like all the seals around Porsche 911 Cabriolet- and Targa roofs, which are certainly quite top notch in the car industry.
Of course there's some "wind buffeting" at a certain speed due to the form of the opening space above the heads of driver and passenger, but it can be reduced very easily by closing the side windows and using the little wind spoiler on the upper edge of the windscreen. How about that???
What's the point from all these fucking annoying USA-cry babies??? I don't get it!
Launch control...both giggle like little boys...I want in on that!!!
Manuals are so much fun - your laugh says it all !
FYI, the throws on the manual shifter are not actually shorter. It's the shift lever itself that's 10mm shorter.
Love that you gave attention to the seats and the nuances.
Watching you repeatedly dump the clutch made me cringe. You’re not allowed to drive my manual M4.
Exactly what did happen to fog lights on 911's?
Your reviews soothe me after a long day at work ,keep it up Soyfan!
Your*
Haha same. Its very relaxing
Awesome review Sofyan !!!! I would love to see 👀 you in one of these. The 911 is just one of the best sports cars in the world 🌎 🔥🔥🔥💪👌👍🏼
You’re dumping the clutch too fast, you have to get right at that edge of engagement. Then feather it out, with the gas peddle down the whole time. You even have to flat foot shift, keep the gas peddle down.
2:22 there’s a secret way to open the frunk without accessing a switch in the cabin, and it isn’t the key fob. It blew my mind when I saw someone do it in another video recently. Not sure if it’s documented in the owner’s manual.
The way that trans is laid out with the reverse next to first would terrify me when coming to a stop
Porsche nailed it with the 992 generation design. Love my C2.
What curvy roads were you driving on? Live in the Atlanta area too.
At 15:55, why did you blur the tachometer?
Let the clutch out a little slower and it won’t bog as much. Folks, buy the manual so that Porsche keeps making them!
The videography as you walk by the 911 is tops. The 911 has been a dream car from my HS days in the early 80's, but the lines of the car have evolved perfectly.
Does the GTS manual have no lift shifts like the 991.2 GT3 manual?
Hmmm….nice to see how a car this expensive has a gearshift as nice as a Honda/Mazda. Also the outrageous pricing makes it easier for Chevy dealers to continue the ADM on the Vette…and I’m a PCA member for over 20 years. That said this car can only be used on a track in order to appreciate its enormous capabilities; as you can see the real world is filled with everyday commuter cars (nothing wrong with that) limiting the fun. Throw in deteriorating infrastructures like here in NY it’s hard to justify buying this weapon for solely street driving.
Iconic sports car with great handling. I'm only disappointed by it's rather quiet or soft ish sound compared to let's say the F-Type SVR which i think has a lot more character and soul.
Keep in mind this is a EU spec model. Hopefully the american market spec wills be a lot nicer.
Porsche just builds great cars. They are expensive, but you get something special for the money.
They are nice cars--if my opinion as a turbo owner means anything at all. Definitely great cars. However, IMO there are a lot of nice/special cars. The C8, I think, is a knock out. Miatas... No more machine for smiles per dollar. Viper, the most awesome and special car too me.
@@iluvcakes19 You're right, but Porsche has better qualit and the resale value is always better.
Rob’s face at 22:20 is priceless lol
That Oak Green CGT!!! 💚💚💚
Editor is watching for cops. 😂
you need to drive it in sport rather than sport plus to get pops and bangs, in sport plus they are totally removed.
Great review, thanks…however that’s not the way to close the ‘frunk’. Need to drop it all the way down until it touches and then push into place. Just a tip ;)
This is true
You don't just dump the clutch you'll bogged the engine off the power band. Need to finesse the clutch and gas keeping the engine on the power band while trying to minimize wheel spin
Exactly. Freakin rookies! 😂
I had no idea a 7 speed manual has been created for production cars. Seeing all those numbers is cool lol
The C7 corvette had a 7 speed manual. I think it was on the Z06.
I'll never afford a 911. But I do wish I could drive one for a day
You can actually get used and heavily depreciated 911s at an affordable price.
Never say never!
Rent one for the day on Turo
@@jj_cars99 997 911s are still $40k for the base model and $60k for a turbo
@@XX-166 I've looked in my market several times. Only one I found was a rather base 911 @ 800 a day for 200 miles per day. I wouldn't even drive it hard.
Completely disagree about the seats. Love them for long drives. 3 herniated discs and this is best seat out of all my cars.
Does the targa came in rwd + manual ? I’d prefer that in green on tan leather for me…
Porsche really knows how to dial in the exhaust sound on six cylinder engines.
Best colour for the 911. Love it!
Y no led fog lights
Are You Going to Do a Launch Control Compilation one day? I would love to see one lol
The controversy over the front end was not about the hood cut lines. It was about the overabundance of black plastic in the front fascia... Which, looks much better in this GTS.
Your review was spot on Sofyan!! Real world review! What a beautiful car!! Well done both of you!
The carbon buckets are NOT “very, very uncomfortable for longer drives”. Many YT reviewers say this with (I’m convinced) never having done long drives in these seats. I own a 718 GT4 with the buckets, which I daily and do tons of long highway drives in, and the seats have never once proven to be uncomfortable. It’s hard to imagine that they’d be comfortable, given how thin and rigid they are, but it’s true.
100% agreed. I had a 981 GT4 with the buckets and daily drove my car for almost 2 years. Once you’re in them they’re comfortable, the only compromise is getting in and out of the car but for long drives they’re fine. On my 992 GTS i optioned the standard sport plus seats for convenience, not because the buckets are uncomfortable.
@@CarEnthused it’s ironic, because I’m looking at a 992 GTS with the lightweight package and sport seats as my next car. Lol. Idk, I’m ‘on the list’ for both a GT4 rs and a gt3 touring, but who knows whether either of those will materialize or whether I’ll agree to pay the markup.
@@theanthonyv I’ve been in a list for the GT4 RS since I bought my 981 and I still don’t think I’ll get one 😢
@@theanthonyv I went sports seats and no lightweight package. I’d love it in theory but I’ve got a little one and sharing road trips and memories with my family is huge… until I can get a GT3 allocation that is 😂
You are making me miss my 911! And I agree, PDK vs 7 speed m/t is a tough choice
Wow!! that was amazing how nice was that Nissan Altima😁
Porsche is the best car in the world
That's my dream 911 right there
It's amazing how they make you pay extra for everything
All German manufacturers do that.
That's how they stay in business.
Wouldn't you rather piece-meal and pay for what you want then buy some prepackaged grouping of suff desired along with a bunch of other crap forced on ya?
As it relates to the crackles & burbles did u have it in sport or normal
Seems like he’s shifting extremely hard like he’s punching the gears
I dont like how he drives manual transmission
Startup chimes sounds like a piano like the song Slow Jamz by Rapper twista ft Kanye west and Jamie foxx and the red paint reminds me of the 1990s Porsche 911 that Selena Quintanilla drove
The exhaust sounds terrible. Very muted rev sound.
Maybe not refer to Rob as "my editor". We know who he is. Just a thought.
Thanks for the review, would you spec this with the Front Axle Lift? Is there enough clearance?
That was great! We got to see so many Porches in the background. Testing both the PDK and manual was perfect and I really enjoyed the whole thing. I laughed, I cried. Sofyan great shirt and Rob rockin his glasses. Keep em coming!
PDK doesn’t take away any car control at all and not just in Porsche, but any dual clutch. I’ve been racing since 1981 and while I love my manuals, it’s a fact that we all turn much faster lap times with dual clutches.
you need to disconnect completely the traction control. It has a mechanical LSD and with 305 tires with an engine on top of them you need to be aggressive.
Missed some of those blurs!
In this case it’s more like “Poorsche” to remind most people how “poor” they are because they can’t afford cars like these. These prices are getting insane. A non- Turbo model 911 approaching 200k? Even the M3 and M4 can be spec’d out to over 100k now before optioning any sort of Individual customization.
Does it have larger turbos than a carerra S or just more boost?
Boost
The launches were sick! Poor Cameraman pissed his pants lol!
Hey Sofyan, have you ever been pulled over or gotten a ticket from cops seeing your videos? I always wondered if local cops learned who you guys are and keep tabs for possible stops.
When he's in his local PA area I'm sure he has to watch out lot more, this "random" spot in GA outside of Atlanta maybe not, he doesn't test there often.
Thanks for the video. I think if you put it into Sport Mode (not sport plus), you’ll hear more of the exhaust pops and bangs.
Watched the launch on the manual and it was painful. Never dump the clutch like that without at least a bit of finesse.
Great minds think alike! The 911 target has always been my favorite sports car since I was a kid. I appreciate you sharing this experience it looks like you guys had major fun!
Nice review!
Lovely machine but I still lust for the Turbo S.
The hood looks weird. I like the older models with the curve truck lines.
Only shift lever itself is shorter, not throw ... although it'll feel faster.
Manual GTS OMG!!
Wish there was still a NA 911, that with a stick in a basic Carrera would be the perfect spec for me
Lol. Full on hooning today! 😆
The guy driving the manual doesn’t know how to drive it. When he tried to launch it, He almost trashed the clutch.
He admitted in the video that he is not used to launching a RWD manual car so I'm not sure why you felt the need to point that out? SMH
Get a Audi RS6 for daily. It has paddles etc. get a GTS manual for pure enjoyment on B roads and track. Well that’s my dream.
Red 911 only way to go.
Porsche needs their version of Cadillac’s “No Lift Shift” !!
Older ones had it
Thanks for the very good video. Can you tell and describe the sound difference compared to the Carrera 992 S. For the look I prefer the Carrera S. Should I go for the S or GTS?
“Am I dumping the clutch too fast?”
“No that can’t be it”🤦♂️
Bro kept doing the same thing expecting different results.
Great review! I wish the video quality inside the Porsche Experience Center was a little better though. Things are super grainy and a bit dark.
Just lighting issues. Notice he usually films outside. Unlike the recent Toyota Tundra press event, where it was setup for filming and had tons of lighting, it’s not very well lit in the showroom here. He should have had them take the vehicles outside.
Porsche is just an all around great brand
couple of years ago... you didnt like the Porsche 911 at all....
Fun review yet 194 grand is ridiculous imo
Imagine if he got the chance to review that green Carrera GT in the back💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
I think you should start doing the Rob sick test. The fewer miles it takes to make him actually vomit the higher the rating
How is the soundinsolation with the roof up on the targa on the Interstate roads? On the 991 targa they complained of the windnoise with the roof down that it was unpleasant ever at 45 mph and more but now you say that 80 is the borderline of unconfortable windnoise...Substantial inprovement
Despite it is a subjective thing. What is your opinion Sofyan?
What a fun video to watch. Thanks for producing it! ... Were you strait dumping the clutch? IMO, you might want to feather it a little
Sport plus mode for launch control
Well, when my clutch plate finally wore down at 112k miles it got stuck in 3rd gear and yet the car could get rolling and get up to 120-125 in 3rd gear, so just imagine have 3, 4 or 5 more gears.
its way more expensive than it should be and the gts models are always lighter than there standart sibilings you should know that. as always good vlog
I want to know about the corolla GR!!!!!!! affordable and fast!